--- Log opened Thu Dec 17 00:00:44 2015 01:57 < aestetix> CNN has become a tabloid 01:57 < aestetix> I can't read the site anymore because it's so bad. 01:57 < aestetix> It's basically fox news 02:40 -!- rhia [~rhia@173.85.104.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:42 -!- rhia [~rhia@173.85.104.5] has joined #se2600 02:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 04:03 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: : how much was your bail? 04:03 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OTKm0M8vU 04:03 < PigBot> Title: Fox News Comment Section Poster Arrested, Out On Bail - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/guxaj9h 04:04 <@RangerZ> hehe 04:39 < aestetix> You know 04:40 < aestetix> it's astonishing how many Americans I know who have attempted suicide 04:40 < aestetix> and how few europeans 04:40 < aestetix> thanks reagan 04:43 <@Dagmar> Amazing how few europeans you know. 04:45 < aestetix> lol 04:45 < aestetix> well let me put it more like 04:45 < aestetix> germans 04:45 < aestetix> greeks are another story :p 06:51 <@Evilpig> aestetix: are you saying that americans are just unsuccessful compared to europeans? 06:59 < aestetix> Evilpig: greeks are europeans, so no 07:01 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:02 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:49 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 07:49 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 07:49 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 07:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 09:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 09:29 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgvwzdhpjejzxmim] has joined #se2600 09:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 09:37 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa_] by ChanServ 09:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:05 <@Evilpig> since you guys never get to see these... 10:05 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0ikbnokc713mzs/Screenshot%202015-12-17%2010.04.55.png?dl=0 10:05 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2015-12-17 10.04.55.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/jpdoubb 10:06 <@CRasH180> I am totally going to reply to your message now! 10:07 <@Evilpig> if it wouldn't get me way more spam, I would 10:07 <@Evilpig> domain: se2600\root 10:07 <@Evilpig> password: lolhax 10:10 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I always wondered if these dumb phishing e-mails actually work. 10:10 < _NSAKEY> That one's pretty blatant. 10:11 <@Evilpig> send one to noc@vanderbilt.edu you might get a hit 10:11 <@Evilpig> ;) 10:11 < _NSAKEY> If you were going to reply, it would probably be more in-your-face to give "gonephishin" or some variant thereof as the password. 10:11 <@Evilpig> I could give a real password of mine. 3atad!ck 10:18 <@RangerZ> what is the site for 'cheap boxes' ? for hosting/etc? 10:18 <@RangerZ> http://cheapboxes.com/ is NOT it 10:18 <@RangerZ> cheap hosts? 10:19 <@RangerZ> http://lowendbox.com/ I found it, nevermind 10:19 < PigBot> Title: Low End Box - Cheap VPS Hosting Providers Listing & Reviews (at lowendbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/mu4g8m2 10:20 <@RangerZ> but let me ask in here, before I spend time looking through there/other places. I want a host where I can host a WP site with (low traffic (for a site)... only ~500 hits a day MAX) 10:20 <@RangerZ> but I need to be able to run my own local programs 10:21 <@RangerZ> WP's own hosting would be fine if I didn't need to run my own scripts/etc. 10:26 < dfused> I've only used linode and digital ocean 10:28 <@RangerZ> so I know what not to use now 10:28 <@RangerZ> ;) lol 10:28 < dfused> derp 10:28 < dfused> big meany 10:28 <@RangerZ> I've used 1&1 in the past and it _used_ to be great... until they switched their servers to (something) 10:29 <@RangerZ> then PHP/SQL sites would take 20 sec+ to load a page 10:29 <@Evilpig> that's just an overbooked host 10:29 < dfused> DO wont let em do major ubuntu version upgrades 10:29 < dfused> so I cannot upgrade from 14 to 15, I have to migrate 10:30 <@RangerZ> hostly 12 or 11 was the last good release ;) 10:30 <@RangerZ> maybe 10 10:30 < dfused> thats like saying windows 98 was the last good version of windows 10:30 <@Evilpig> it really was 10:31 < dfused> i know right? 10:31 <@Evilpig> rock solid. dependable. great networking support. 10:31 < dfused> simple user interface 10:32 <@RangerZ> kubuntu isn't bad, some people don't like KDE's interface, but I love KDE's apps 10:32 < dfused> similar issues with ubuntu....keeps getting more complicated UI, more buggy 3rd party apps introduced to manage things like networking 10:39 < aestetix> RangerZ: I use 1and1 for email 10:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 10:44 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45 <@RangerZ> dfused: KDE's apps often shame what you can get otherwise IMHO 10:46 <@RangerZ> Kate and Kile (their naming schemes....) in particular are really good editors (general purpose/LaTeX, respectfully) 10:50 < dfused> you'll never get me to turn comrade 10:55 < _NSAKEY> dfused: Why won't DO let you jump ubuntu versions? 10:55 < _NSAKEY> They do KVM boxes, so I imagine you can do whatever you want. 10:56 < dfused> no idea...I kept tryng and failing with all sorts of odd issues, then asked their support and they said it wouldnt do it and i had to migrate. 10:56 < dfused> I'm sure there is some way to do it, but I dont feel like arguing with them 10:56 < _NSAKEY> That's kind of cheesy. Then again, I don't run ubuntu except on the con laptop, and that's only for projector support. 10:56 < _NSAKEY> *kubuntu 11:08 -!- CRasH1801 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 11:08 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29 <@RangerZ> dfused: actually for years I just installed kde core onto ubuntu 11:29 <@RangerZ> and was happy 11:29 <@RangerZ> got my apps at the cost of like 400MB or something 11:29 <@RangerZ> then Unity.... 11:30 <@RangerZ> and the absolute WORST part of unity is that it doesn't have a way to list "what programs do I have installed" (easily other than CLI commands) 11:31 <@RangerZ> if you can't remember the exact name of a tool... then fuck you... b/c it might as well not exist then 11:35 < dfused> the only name of a tool you need to remember is your own 11:43 <@RangerZ> it took me like 5min once when I wanted to burn a CD , and when I wanted listen to music 11:43 <@RangerZ> I didn't know the default app names 11:44 <@RangerZ> and unity's search fucking sucked and wouldn't bring up programs that were at all useful 11:44 <@RangerZ> I actually had to google search to find the name of the applications 11:44 <@RangerZ> (I didn't want to use VLC for music b/c of 'reasons' at the time, and then I got pissed that I couldn't find the default app) lol 11:47 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:00 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgvwzdhpjejzxmim] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:05 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-120-91.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:42 <@Dolemite> Wait, what the fuck? 4:15 AM showing of The Force Awakens is considered a prime time showing ($11/ticket), but then at 7 AM it goes back to $8 matinee pricing. 12:44 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 12:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 12:44 < dfused> with all that big money you're brining down...dont complain about an extra 3 dollars 12:44 <@Dolemite> Big money? Hahahahahahahahahaha! 12:45 < dfused> awww 12:45 <@Dolemite> I work for the government, which means I get my reward after I retire. I'm also married, with children, which means that I won't likely live long enough to retire. 12:46 < dfused> and knowing whats going on these days....you wont get shit afterwards anyways 13:20 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:21 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-98-240-88-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:21 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-98-240-88-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:21 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 13:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 13:24 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 13:26 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:42 <@RangerZ> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/17/friend-of-san-bernardino-gunman-expected-to-be-charged/ 13:42 < PigBot> Title: Gun charges expected against San Bernardino shooters friend - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/gnzozbn 13:42 <@RangerZ> why are they charging him ? I don't understand... I thought People kill people... not guns... 13:43 * RangerZ innocent look at oddball 13:43 <@RangerZ> hehe 13:51 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:52 < aestetix> Is that the guy who didn't report them because it was profiling? 13:52 <@RangerZ> he was friends with them 13:52 <@RangerZ> and sold them the guns he bought 13:53 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:54 <@RangerZ> the 'thing' about this is... he's just getting caught up in a witch hunt.... sorta.... The problem is they are looking for someone to punish... and he is the weakest link 13:54 <@RangerZ> He bought 2 assault rifles in 2011 and 2012 or so, and sold them to the couple 13:55 <@RangerZ> it was legal what he did if he sold the guns .... and he didn't buy them for the purpose of selling them to the couple 13:55 <@RangerZ> but being a proxy buyer is illegal 13:56 < aestetix> Dolemite: so you're like Al Bundy 13:56 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Pretty much 13:57 < aestetix> Do you have a hot daughter and a pathetic son? 13:58 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02 < aestetix> I assume the answer is no. 14:11 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-117-198.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 14:16 <@Dolemite> aestetix: If I adopted you then I might. 14:16 <@Dolemite> Ok, I'm outta here. Later! 14:21 <@Evilpig> Dolemite sells shoes and played high school foosball? 14:22 < dfused> yeah and he was awesome at it for at least that one game 14:27 -!- trickshotjohnny [~trickshot@2604:180:0:594::5436] has quit [Changing host] 14:27 -!- trickshotjohnny [~trickshot@unaffiliated/trickshotjohnny] has joined #se2600 14:30 < aestetix> Dolemite: you must be getting senile if you think I'm a hot chick 14:31 < aestetix> I wonder how college kids today would react to Married with Children 14:41 <@Evilpig> they'd protest 14:56 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 16:18 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 16:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 16:28 -!- CRasH1801 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:41 < _NSAKEY> For you locals: If you're not doing anything later, NashSec is this evening at Amari. 16:42 < _NSAKEY> I've been lobbying to get the 2600 meetings moved to Savarino's, which is the pizza place downstairs. 16:42 < _NSAKEY> Having extra opinions would be nice. 16:58 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: #1 thing that they care about 16:58 <@RangerZ> parking 16:58 < _NSAKEY> There's free parking across the street. 16:59 < _NSAKEY> The reason they care about it is because something like 4 board members had to pay $15 to park the last time we all met at J&J's. 17:01 <@RangerZ> which side is the entrance on? belcourt? 17:01 < _NSAKEY> I've honestly never stayed in the downstairs pizza parlor long enough to assess whether it's too noisy or not, but it generally isn't too crowded from what I've seen. 17:01 <@RangerZ> ohh nvm, the other is alley 17:01 < _NSAKEY> Yeah. 17:01 <@RangerZ> #802 alley 17:01 < _NSAKEY> The bank across the street has parking. 17:01 <@RangerZ> interesting naming 17:01 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I didn't know they numbered the alleys, though I suppose it makes sense. 17:02 < _NSAKEY> Better than saying, "We have a dead body in the alley between Street A and Street B." 17:02 <@RangerZ> man... that would be a whole 15min walking from where I'm sitting 17:02 <@RangerZ> I dunno... 17:02 <@RangerZ> lol 17:03 <@RangerZ> what time does it start? 6pm? 17:05 <@RangerZ> [We meet the THIRD THURSDAY of every month, usually starting by 6:30PMand ending at last call.] 17:05 < _NSAKEY> 6:30, though I tend to go earlier. 17:05 < _NSAKEY> They tend to break up around 8 or so. 17:05 < _NSAKEY> I usually show up early and order a small pizza. 17:06 <@RangerZ> I was thinking of grabbing some pasta myself 17:06 <@RangerZ> feeling that 17:06 < _NSAKEY> I don't know about the rest of their menu, but their pizza is excellent. It isn't cheap, but you'll know where your money went when you bite into it. 17:07 < _NSAKEY> Actually, I think I'm getting the prices wrong in my head. Nevermind. 17:07 < _NSAKEY> Once this string of phone calls ends, I'm out the door. 17:07 <@RangerZ> mixing it up with the crack den you go to, where you get your money's worth? 17:07 <@RangerZ> is it 'upstairs' you said? 17:09 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, there's this James Bond-grade door that leads upstairs. 17:09 < _NSAKEY> You won't see it unless you know it's there. 17:10 < _NSAKEY> It's to the left as soon as you go in. 17:10 <@Dagmar> You just have to close your eyes, run at the wall and believe. 17:10 < _NSAKEY> ^^^^^^^ 17:10 < _NSAKEY> I was going to say to push on the wall and the Legend of Zelda secret chime will play as it opens. 17:11 <@Dagmar> If some noise-making cards fall into my hands... 17:11 < _NSAKEY> I need to deal with dogs first, but I'm heading out now. 17:12 <@Dagmar> I'm doing laundry first. I swear. 17:12 <@Dagmar> Also because the people who show up early for drinking events have problems I don't wanna hear about 17:12 <@Dagmar> heh 17:12 <@Dagmar> Also, I need ot pick up _four_ freaking bulbs for the vanity lights in the bathroom 17:13 <@Dagmar> Warranty literally ran out on all of them at once this week. 17:13 <@Dagmar> One bulb remaining. 17:17 <@Evilpig> aren't you moving out of there? just replace one and act surprised about the rest. heh 17:18 <@RangerZ> also Dagmar, I don't think you and _NSAKEY are 'technically' elected as board members 17:18 <@RangerZ> because you didn't get a 'majority' of the votes 17:18 <@RangerZ> you only got a 'plurality' 17:18 <@Dagmar> I've already _been_ surprised about the rest 17:18 <@RangerZ> so I'm going to nominate oddball 17:18 <@RangerZ> ;) 17:18 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Well, we can all obsess about that at the next anything, which will be a board meeting 17:19 <@RangerZ> I think we got 3~4 votes for right now 17:19 <@RangerZ> hehe 17:19 <@Dagmar> If there has to be another election, I'm fine with that 17:19 <@RangerZ> hehe 17:23 <@Dagmar> You can expect that if I actually snag enough votes that's the way I'm going to slap SJW nonsense down to keep it form being a time sink as well 17:23 <@Dagmar> If (!can be done now) then (schedule explicitly) 17:29 <@RangerZ> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ted-cruz-leaked-classified-info-debate-article-1.2467840 17:30 <@RangerZ> [“nearly 100%” of phone numbers could be checked for ties to terrorism under the new program, compared with just “20% to 30%” under earlier Patriot Act provisions that had expired.] 17:30 <@RangerZ> 100% of meta-data being mined 17:31 <@RangerZ> its not like -we- didn't know that 17:32 <@RangerZ> but good to get it out thrre 17:32 <@RangerZ> there* 17:39 <@Dagmar> Now can we get Paul Ryan kicked the fuck out of office for sneaking even _more_ onerous provisions into the budget omnibus? 17:39 <@Dagmar> Perhaps up on charges of treason? 17:40 <@Dagmar> I mean, I know a lot of people throw that word about, but he's absolutely and demonstratably fucking the American people over with that move 17:40 <@Dagmar> This Ted Cruz shit is literally just a fucking *smokescreen* 17:48 <@Dagmar> IT HAS BEGUN 17:48 <@Dagmar> As we speak, millions of lipids and salts are engaged in a battle to the death in a churning maelstrom of mercilessly cold tap water. 17:50 < dfused> all those poor defenseless dirty victims 17:55 <@RangerZ> the google doodle this time is pretty good 17:59 < dfused> dman I love moonlight sonata 18:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-117-198.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:06 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:21 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Oh damn you're right 18:23 <@Dagmar> ...although I'm pretty sure this is building towards the "Unfinished Symphony" 18:23 <@Dagmar> IF they have a Doctor Who reference there I will plotz 18:25 < dfused> goddamned it.... I need ..no MUST HAVE louder speakers. 18:26 < dfused> if your chest does not vibrate when playing beethoven...it is not loud enough 18:26 <@Dagmar> If you have neighbors, what you need is a good pair of DJ cans 18:26 < dfused> nope, no neighbors... but loud in ear is not the same as really feeling sound 18:27 <@Dagmar> ...or buy one of those "gaming chairs" 18:27 <@Dagmar> Subwoofer built into it 18:27 < dfused> i may be taking a trip into town tomorrow to best buy 18:27 <@Dagmar> I've kinda considered buying one of those, but I know precisely what will happen when I apply a 180lb weight to a subwoofer sitting on the floor. 18:28 <@Dagmar> I've spent way too much time doing sound-dampening in my cases to not know better 18:28 < dfused> hah 18:29 < dfused> or perhaps I could just wire up some car woofers to an old head unit 18:29 < dfused> er...home head unit 18:29 < dfused> in my old setup th eohms were split so twice the power got pushed to speakers 18:30 < dfused> but I dont know what newer receivers use 18:30 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:32 <@Dagmar> Wow. 18:32 <@Dagmar> "Council member Nadine Ramsey said New Orleans needed to stop living "underneath the shadows" of monuments to people who supported slavery." 18:32 <@Dagmar> Fucking morons 18:32 < dfused> yeah....they are calling them "terrorists" and want all those monuments pulled down 18:33 <@Dagmar> I'll just wait until someone fucks up here 18:33 <@Dagmar> ...and then i'll eat their soul for it. 18:33 < dfused> lmao 18:34 <@Dagmar> If these were monuments devoted explicitly to the defense of slavery, sure, tear them the fuck down 18:34 < dfused> history must never be forgotten regardless if its fucking pretty or NOT 18:34 <@Dagmar> ...but they're not. They're monuments to the work and sacrifices these people made _for their country_. Right or wrong. 18:34 <@Dagmar> This shit is just whitewashing the idea that everyone's always agreed on everything 18:35 < dfused> there is an ongoing war in the past few years to wipe out all history we think is ugly 18:35 <@Dagmar> I think I'm going to just bait the SJWs 18:35 < dfused> makes these ppl no better than the ones destroying monuments in the desert cause they disagree with their religion 18:35 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:36 <@Dagmar> Something along the lines of saying how great it will be 400 years from now when they tear down the monuments to the social justice warriors for wasting everyone's time by promoting the idea that your skin color or ethnicity actually matters 18:36 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, no one's going to put up a monument to people who mainly just ran their mouths idly until someone else was forced to do something about them 18:37 < dfused> correct. 18:38 < dfused> -sigh- 18:38 < dfused> Bach isnt as good as beethoven loud. 18:38 < dfused> maybe mozart... 18:39 < dfused> oh shit..I'll bet chopin is 18:40 < dfused> yeeeeees. 19:04 < aestetix> Dagmar: do they realize that that shit will just make the racial tension worse? 19:04 -!- crashcart [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydehopgqftmiveus] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:18 < aestetix> you know 19:18 < aestetix> Dagmar: in Berlin there are all kinds of monuments about the Holocaust up. It's to remind people never to let that shit happen again. 19:31 <@Evilpig> 1 hour to go people! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQBe9yEGNk 19:31 < PigBot> Title: Holiday Webcast 2015 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jrfgwdb 19:34 < aestetix> wow 19:34 < aestetix> http://imgur.com/gallery/5991n 19:34 < PigBot> Title: Trick friends into thinking you have your shit together - Album on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/nky7p9c 19:34 < aestetix> this list is great 19:43 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Yeah but there's a bit of a difference there 19:43 <@Dagmar> aestetix: None of those are monuments to members of the nazi regime because they were doing _decent_ things 19:44 <@Dagmar> Like, sure Forrest was pro-Slavery, and I think we can all agree on that front that he was a dick 19:44 <@Dagmar> ...but he was also a brilliant military strategist 19:44 <@Dagmar> Very few people in the NAzi part were obviously interested in slaughtering an entire culture group 19:45 <@Dagmar> ...but there were a shitton of opportunists there who took advantage fo the opportunity to become rather despotic 19:45 <@Dagmar> They didn't _just_ do their jobs 19:46 <@Dagmar> Most of the Confederacy didn't engage in a lot of bullshit and nonsense, and nothing like what Sherman did 19:46 <@Dagmar> Our government was basically founded on the basis that a people's government _can be wrong_, and not just wrong but wrong enough to require violent overthrow 19:47 <@Dagmar> Both sides involved in our Civil War thought they were in the right. To various degrees, they both actually _were_ in the right 19:48 <@Dagmar> ...but the moment we let people start demonizing people just because they were Confederates and the "losing" side is automataically wrong, all the lessons to be learned from all that bloodshed go out hte fuckin' window 19:48 <@Dagmar> Fuck every last one of the people whose reasoning for wanting those monuments torn down is _that_ simplistic. 19:49 <@Dagmar> People change over time, and over long periods of time it can easily be an extreme change 19:49 <@Dagmar> Those people are not who we are now. 19:49 <@Dagmar> NOr do those people represent a damn thing that's ongoing onw 19:50 <@Dagmar> They represent shit we _learned_ from 19:51 <@Dagmar> If we toss all that out, we can no longer learn from it. 20:05 <@oddball> Dagmar: As seen on FB: "The General Sherman. One shot peach schnapps, one shot Fireball and one shot Southern Comfort. Light on fire." 20:07 <@Dagmar> If people want to get upset about someone, no person stands out in my mind _more_ than Sherman, who literally destroyed _everything_ in his path 20:08 <@oddball> He did offer to come back and help rebuild after the war was over. 20:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah, so he wasn't a _complete_ asshole 20:08 <@Dagmar> Still, it's probably one of the most evil acts engaged in during htat period 20:09 <@Dagmar> People need to get it into their heads that sometimes, both "sides" are equally right and wrong 20:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-46-113.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:10 <@oddball> He actually admitted that what he was doing was terrible, but he felt that that was the best way to make the war as short as possible. 20:16 <@Dagmar> I can't really blame him, but for people to demonize just random members of the Confederacy in light of that? 20:17 <@Dagmar> They're dumbing down the lessons of history to levels of unrecognizability 20:20 <@oddball> Oh, I agree 20:21 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Almost ready to roll out. Got some laundry sorting that needsta happen still 20:29 <@Evilpig> 15 seconds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQBe9yEGNk 20:29 < aestetix> Dagmar: so a reasonable compromise might be to add information to the statues plagues that they were slave owners or whatever 20:29 < PigBot> Title: Holiday Webcast 2015 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jrfgwdb 20:30 < aestetix> or to get someone who isn't a complete nitwit onto the city council... 20:35 <@Evilpig> right into the new song! 20:35 <@Evilpig> and it's a christmas song 20:57 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 21:06 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: We all left about a half hour ago. 21:06 < _NSAKEY> Next time I'm going to tell you it's at 4, and maybe you'll show up on time. 21:06 <@oddball> He was supposed to meet you and folks for drinks? 21:08 < _NSAKEY> I told him 6, thinking he might show up at 6:30 or so (The actual time) 21:09 < _NSAKEY> But when you set a low bar for Dagmar that depends on time, he tends to find a way to limbo right under it and make the task look easy. 21:09 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:780:5959:44e2:f98f:1065:653d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10 <@Dagmar> " usually starting by 6:30PM and ending at last call." 21:10 <@Dagmar> I actually looked at the website for the location 21:10 <@Dagmar> ...and it's freaking 9pm 21:10 <@Dagmar> How you people can have more than just breakfast drinks at 6:30 I've no idea 21:10 < _NSAKEY> I thought I told you they usually leave at 8. 21:11 < _NSAKEY> You know for next time, I suppose. 21:11 <@Dagmar> Someone should update the website then 21:11 < _NSAKEY> Still, mentally tell yourself next month that it's at 4:30, so maybe you'll be there in time. 21:11 <@Dagmar> "Last call" at a bar is usually a hell of a lot lter than that 21:12 <@Dagmar> The only time I'm a bar before like 11pm is Corner Pub on Fridays, and that's at the time it is because we'd just go there after work as an "offsite meeting" 21:12 <@oddball> Geekaritas? 21:12 <@Dagmar> If I "mentally tell myself" it's ata 4, I won't be able to get shit done between 4 and then 21:13 <@Dagmar> I acutally have a bunch of crap I'm doing that I would really rather be spending time playing video games 21:13 <@Dagmar> I put about half the fridge into the dishwasher today, chucked four bags of things I don't need, did four loads of laundry, fed some cats, _ate_ two whole meals so far... 21:14 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5y2mtfwmj8n4gz/Psychostick%20-%20Oh%20Tannenbaum.mp3?dl=0 21:14 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Psychostick - Oh Tannenbaum.mp3 (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/jabduvj 21:14 <@RangerZ> at least that place is better than the fucking food court 21:14 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: They already got evicted from YouTube? 21:15 <@Evilpig> nope 21:15 <@Evilpig> but they put the new song up for free on dropbox 21:15 <@Dagmar> Ah 21:15 <@Evilpig> I gave em a buck for it anyway 21:15 <@Evilpig> http://psychostick.myshopify.com/collections/webcast/products/otannenbaum 21:15 <@Evilpig> the video really is great. 21:15 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Seriously, if you don't want people thinking 9-10pm is fine, don't have on the website that things end at _last call_ 21:16 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I don't control that website, but I passed your feedback on. 21:17 <@Dagmar> The things Corydon does at that beer place last until midnight at least generally 21:17 <@Dagmar> The geek social over by Union Station 21:24 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind that my place looks _way_ more like a tornado hit it than it should 21:24 <@Dagmar> ...except that tornadoes don't usually bring a bunch of large cardboard boxes with them. 21:24 <@Dagmar> The cats are having a ball tho 21:25 <@Dagmar> To them, my whole house is like some massive LaserQuest arena 21:26 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow I've got two TVs to drag down to BestBuy to get rid of (wound up taking other stuff elsewhere yesterday) and the rest of the electronics in the den to dismantle 21:26 <@Dagmar> No one breathe a _word_ to the EPA or I'm fucked 21:26 <@Dagmar> They'll never let me dismantle that dust mouse habitat 21:32 <@oddball> Got some ancient TVs to get rid of? 21:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah, an old TV of rattle's that somehow wound up in _my_ stuff from California, and an NEC 17" monitor 21:33 <@Dagmar> I also have a 13" with RCA jacks on the front and a flat screen that I'm thinking I might actually keep around 21:37 <@RangerZ> hahaha http://kotaku.com/square-enix-wants-to-know-final-fantasy-xv-or-persona-1748503202 21:37 <@RangerZ> ohh good, I broke Evilpig's bot again 21:37 <@Dagmar> Let's see... 21:37 <@RangerZ> SE wants to know if people want FF15 or Persona 5 more.... Persona had a fucking J-POP Concert.... to show the the FIRST trailer 21:37 <@Dagmar> Pedophilia or ritual suicide combat? 21:38 <@Dagmar> Hmmm.... 21:38 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAH 21:38 <@Dagmar> "What the hell is a woman doing in FFXV?!" 21:39 <@RangerZ> huh? 21:39 <@Dagmar> Just below the image 21:39 <@RangerZ> ahh 21:39 <@RangerZ> yeah I generally ignore those 21:39 <@RangerZ> but THAT is funny 21:39 <@RangerZ> Obviously they want to figure out the release date of FF15 vs P5 21:40 <@RangerZ> FF15 better fucking avoid P5 is all I gotta say 21:40 <@RangerZ> P5 is going to be the J-RPG equivalent of Fallout 4 21:40 <@Dagmar> I didn't do 15. Was there some lore where all the females went away or is that guy wondering why she's not a little lolita like I think he is 21:40 <@RangerZ> the only fucking game stupid enough to come out around... let alone on the same fucking day... was Rise of the Tomb Raider 21:41 <@RangerZ> nah, 15 isn't out yet, but the party is 4 dudes 21:41 <@Dagmar> Ah 21:41 <@RangerZ> and some SE employee fucked up a translated question, and basically said "we don't know how to write female characters" 21:41 <@Dagmar> I hope SE is prepared to counter-troll the SJWs with "What's your problem? They're all gay." 21:41 <@RangerZ> "so they are all guys" 21:42 <@RangerZ> they got hit with that SJW stuff, so they are putting 'occasional' female party members 21:42 <@Dagmar> Hell at least they know their own weaknesses 21:42 <@RangerZ> after saying "the party is all guys, because the dynamics of 4 boys would be different when you put a single female into the party too" 21:42 < _NSAKEY> They should tell the SJWs to STFU and go play Final Fantasy VI, where the main party character is a woman. 21:43 <@RangerZ> honestly I thought they had a VERY valid point 21:43 <@Dagmar> No, they should make them play FFX with the 'full' dialog mode enabled 21:43 <@Dagmar> ...so they can all get sick to death of Yuna running her mouth. 21:43 < _NSAKEY> Plus, Final Fantasvy VI is probably way better than anything they've released in years, so that would be rewarding them. 21:43 < _NSAKEY> So maybe that shouldn't be their strategy. 21:43 <@Dagmar> "I wonder how the people in my old village are getting along?" 21:43 <@RangerZ> 4 'bros' taking a road trip... is going to be a fucking WHOLE LOT different if there is a girl with them 21:43 <@Dagmar> "Are we doing the right thing by engaging in all this violence?" 21:44 <@Dagmar> "So and so's dress is really pretty don't you think?" 21:44 <@Dagmar> "I hope I'm making my father proud of me." 21:44 <@Dagmar> "I wonder what the old man from the fishing village is doing?" 21:44 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: yes, but what about the game, enough of your IRC chats over the past few nights 21:44 <@Dagmar> "Where do the monsters come from?" 21:44 <@RangerZ> ;) 21:44 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Clearly you didn't make the same mistake with that option as I did 21:44 <@Dagmar> I thought it meant full combat detail 21:45 < _NSAKEY> The answer to that last question is "Dagmar dreams dimly." 21:45 <@RangerZ> No, I didn't play FFX when it came out 21:45 <@Dagmar> No, it literally meant "You fight for five minutes, and then spend 12-15 madly pressing X to skip whatever the fuck things keep rolling out of Yuna's mouth." 21:45 <@RangerZ> I was told afterwards to be careful of that 21:46 <@Dagmar> I'm not even joking about the time ratios 21:46 <@Dagmar> I thought I'd just hit a patch where Yuna talks too damn much 21:50 <@RangerZ> 25 hours later.... 21:52 <@Dagmar> Too right 21:52 <@Dagmar> I started nodding off when I would just _hear_ the music after a few evenings of that 21:52 <@RangerZ> https://www.bing.com/rewards/redeem/all wow.... MSFT is doing that again 21:52 < PigBot> Title: Bing Rewards - Redemption Center (at www.bing.com) http://tinyurl.com/oczlo2x 21:53 <@RangerZ> they are paying you to use their search engine 21:53 <@Dagmar> "Here's some worthless stuff you could get anyway!" 21:53 <@RangerZ> mainly gift cards 21:53 <@RangerZ> every search gets you ~$0.01 21:54 <@Dagmar> There's probably some Chinese kids flogging that site for everything they can get then 21:55 <@Dagmar> I prefer the Google way of doing things... 21:55 <@Dagmar> "Were you at PetSmart recently?" 21:55 <@Dagmar> "Was it yesterday or the day before?" 21:55 <@Dagmar> "Have 22 cents!" 21:56 <@Dagmar> Actually, I just got 27 cents. 21:56 <@Dagmar> New balance: $13.52 21:56 <@Dagmar> Maybe once a month a survey isn't worth anything 21:57 <@Dagmar> This is literally how i pay for Ingress frackers and stuff 21:57 <@Dagmar> ...as are a bunch of Ingress players now that they've realized it only takes about a month of answering a question a day to get $10 for buying "chaotic matter" 21:58 <@Dagmar> Heh. There's two surveys today. Another ten cents added 21:59 <@Dagmar> nitero: Largely, just use an app like Regularly or Google Calendar 21:59 < dfused> perhaps you need a larger font for the labeling of your tabs 22:02 <@RangerZ> dfused: nah, its funnier this way 22:03 < dfused> heh 22:04 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY5dd54TIs8 damn it... why does this story have to have 'Toddler' in it... 22:04 < PigBot> Title: Photo Of Olivia Wilde’s Naked Toddler Creates Uproar Online - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/pt5eslb 22:08 <@Dagmar> Chicky has the right of it 22:08 <@Dagmar> THere's people out there who'll fap to pictures of oranges and staplers 22:08 <@Dagmar> Doesn't mean a nekkid baby picture is some kind of deranged enticement 22:09 <@Dagmar> Hell there's a _lurid_ number of naked pictures of Olivia Wilde out there 22:12 <@Dagmar> Okay so perhaps there _is_ something to this having a name attached to a post 22:12 <@Dagmar> ...because if I were interested enough to logout, I'd be anonymously posting a reply of "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED" to that 22:14 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Did you hear about the juniper backdoor that went public today? 22:15 < _NSAKEY> If not... https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Security-Incident-Response/Important-Announcement-about-ScreenOS/ba-p/285554 22:15 < PigBot> Title: Important Announcement about ScreenOS® - J-Net Community (at forums.juniper.net) http://tinyurl.com/huqw7xl 22:15 <@Dagmar> No but hahahahah 22:16 < _NSAKEY> I almost want to find a used one on ebay, but the buyers might be weirded out if I ask about specific version numbers. 22:16 <@Dagmar> It'll be interesting to see if they ever announce the results of their internal investigation into how the backdoor got in thee 22:16 <@Dagmar> er there 22:19 <@Dagmar> tasaif: Could you not get hdparm to talk to it? 22:19 <@Dagmar> @#$@# 22:19 < dfused> hehe 22:41 <@RangerZ> 🎃 22:41 <@RangerZ> 🎃 22:41 <@RangerZ> ;) 22:42 <@RangerZ> I didn't just copy/paste some emoji raw character codes... nope 22:42 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%F0%9F%94%AB 22:42 < PigBot> Title: Pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/hme46fn 22:43 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: If you still had terrible service with Comast, you could have maybe put emoji in your hostname in your client... 22:43 <@RangerZ> hehe 22:43 < _NSAKEY> That would guarantee lots of mistakes. 22:45 < _NSAKEY> HAHAHAHAHAHA https://twitter.com/Hedge76/status/677465444182179840 22:47 <@RangerZ> hahah 22:49 <@RangerZ> but he only got caught b/c he pissed off the large pharma 22:50 <@RangerZ> large pharma has been doing the same shit he's doing, but only by raising prices on drugs they buy by 150%, etc 22:50 <@RangerZ> my mom took some medication, and the company that made it sold it to another company 22:50 <@RangerZ> the new pill was slightly larger than old pill 22:50 <@RangerZ> and it had a gelcap 22:50 <@RangerZ> she realized the pill was odd.... it was literally the old pill put inside the gelcap 22:51 < _NSAKEY> http://hiphopdx.com/interviews/id.2825/title.martin-shkreli-plans-to-bail-out-bobby-shmurda 22:51 <@RangerZ> they were using up their old stock 22:51 < PigBot> Title: Martin Shkreli Plans To Bail-Out Bobby Shmurda | HipHopDX (at hiphopdx.com) http://tinyurl.com/jhzst5h 22:51 < _NSAKEY> " If I hand you $2 million, fucking show me some respect. At least have the decency to say nothing or “no comment.” The guy says “…before his business practices came to light.” What the fuck does that mean? I fucking make money. That’s what I do. That’s why I can fucking afford a fucking $2 million album. What do you think I do, make cookies? No, motherfucker. I sell drugs. [Laughs] I felt in 22:51 < _NSAKEY> sulted." 22:51 < _NSAKEY> This almost reads like parody. 22:52 <@RangerZ> he got caught because he was blatant about it 22:52 <@RangerZ> thats all 22:52 <@RangerZ> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181984/ 22:52 < PigBot> Title: Boiler Room (2000) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) http://tinyurl.com/4hn74 22:52 <@RangerZ> same fucking thing 22:53 <@RangerZ> just this is -only- about stocks 22:53 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha. "If Ghostface can make people disappear, what the fuck do you think I can do? I’ll fucking snap the CD on fucking TV and not even listen to it if that’s what he fucking wants." 22:55 < _NSAKEY> Yeah... This guy's care level is permanently set to zero. 22:55 < _NSAKEY> His trial should be entertaining. 23:01 <@Dagmar> He got caught because he ripped off a few _rich_ people 23:02 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, because screw all those "little people." What are they going to do about it? 23:06 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: The response I got back about your feedback was: "Lol well tell him we need more ppl to show consistently that feel likewise" 23:06 < _NSAKEY> Do you accept the challenge? 23:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah provided they dont' all bolt early like old people 23:07 < _NSAKEY> Considering that you're probably older than the person who said that, I'll pass it along and snicker. 23:13 <@Dagmar> They dont' know about permissions or that the kernel is there to _keep_ the user from sticking their fingers into the running gears 23:13 <@Dagmar> @!#$@#! 23:19 < _NSAKEY> Here's a good one. 23:20 < _NSAKEY> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/17/breach-dating-app-people-hiv-highlights-risk-lawsu/ 23:20 < PigBot> Title: Breach of dating app for people with HIV highlights risk of lawsuits seen by security researchers - Washington Times (at www.washingtontimes.com) http://tinyurl.com/hby8oau 23:20 < _NSAKEY> I love how they may have threatened to give the researchers AIDS> 23:20 < _NSAKEY> s/>/. 23:23 <@RangerZ> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/165546-Konami-Hiring-Staff-for-a-New-Metal-Gear-Title 23:23 < PigBot> Title: Konami Hiring Staff for a New Metal Gear Title | The Escapist (at www.escapistmagazine.com) http://tinyurl.com/oj3ouje 23:23 <@RangerZ> wow.... thats amusing 23:24 <@RangerZ> any article that starts with [Here's some news to have a sensible chuckle over:] 23:25 <@RangerZ> thats a amusing way to have any article start, hehe 23:36 <@RangerZ> http://www.pcgamer.com/steam-winter-sale-begins-december-22/ 23:36 < PigBot> Title: Steam winter sale begins December 22 - PC Gamer (at www.pcgamer.com) http://tinyurl.com/zaqqkmb 23:37 <@RangerZ> whats funny though.... is I basically -have- the games I'd want 23:48 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhInIOKwGXU trending #1 on youtube right now.... 23:48 < PigBot> Title: Fuller House - Teaser - Netflix [HD] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hvcp4eu --- Log closed Fri Dec 18 00:00:46 2015