--- Log opened Tue Dec 15 00:00:39 2015
00:16 <@Dagmar> What's slower than loading?  Frame rates in the space station.
00:16 <@Dagmar> euw
03:35 < aestetix> ugh
03:35 < aestetix> fuck non-ssd databases
05:24 <@Dagmar> I wonder how many people are going to talk shit about Childhood's End without knowing it's actually a book
05:30 <@Dagmar> If Syfy dared significantly fuck with the plot of an Arthur C. Clarke book, I will never watch their stuff again
05:31 <@Dagmar> The tail end of it's going to get _really_ fucking weird for most people
05:33 <@Dagmar> In Linux-space, if something fails explcitly, it's _going_ to have logged something, somewhere about it
05:33 <@Dagmar> @#$@$
06:02 <@Dagmar>   Updating   : trousers-0.3.13-1.el7.x86_64                             344/757
06:02 <@Dagmar> wat
06:02 <@Dagmar> "This package is pants" wat
06:10 < aestetix> http://syruptrap.ca/2015/12/syrian-family-gets-into-america-by-disguising-themselves-as-guns/
06:10 < PigBot> Title: Syrian family gets into U.S. by disguising themselves as guns | The Syrup Trap (at syruptrap.ca)
06:23 <@Dagmar> hahaha
06:28 <@RangerZ> thats amazing
06:48 < aestetix> So
06:48 < aestetix> Why is it that we see so much stupid drama over "harassment" and no outrage about american health care and student debt?
06:48 < aestetix> What's the point of blacks and women getting jobs if they wind up getting sick and go bankrupt with medical costs?
07:06 < dfused> ugh what a hangover. ....shouldnt have started drinking rum when I ran out of apple cider
07:09 <@Evilpig> aestetix: because student debt is a self-created problem.  healthcare... is a protected issue.  take the profit out of it and people will be allowed to complain
07:12 < dfused> sudent debt is a result of the school systems brainwashing society that you're only smart and useful if you have a degree
07:13 < dfused> lets all be good little worker bees
07:13 < dfused> doing your own thing and starting a business on your own is just a dream you shouldnt be bothered with
07:20 < dfused> ok so whats so special abou tthis xbox one .... and why the hell should i get it for the kids
07:30 < aestetix> dfused: true
07:30 < aestetix> dfused: meanwhile, I get asked constantly if I am a PhD student
07:30 < aestetix> even though I think most of what I have learned is from wikipedia and youtube videos :p
07:31 < dfused> hah
07:31 < dfused> and google
07:31 < aestetix> but yeah
07:31 < dfused> I dont need to be a brilliant coder.. I just need to understand how it works and how to find existing examples and mod it to suit my needs
07:31 < aestetix> yep
07:32 < aestetix> also the annoying activists in oakland inspired me to read a bunch of GOP ideas
07:32 < aestetix> so now I can play devil's advocate with them, and they crumple
07:34 <@RangerZ> aestetix: there is building outrage over that
07:35 <@RangerZ> the problem is, that it takes a longer time to address -systematic- issues like healthcare, etc
07:35 < aestetix> RangerZ: the student debt thing is going to fuck the US long term
07:35 <@RangerZ> yes
07:35 <@RangerZ> but it could also just go away
07:35 < aestetix> RangerZ: no it doesn't. Make the health care single payer.
07:35 <@RangerZ> it took WW2 to make EU get that
07:36 <@RangerZ> literally every country was destroyed
07:36 < aestetix> not austria
07:36 < aestetix> Vienna was untouched.
07:36 <@RangerZ> so was Hiroshima
07:36 < aestetix> lol
07:36 <@RangerZ> until they dropped the bomb on it
07:36 <@RangerZ> as a way of measuring how much destructive power the bomb had
07:37 < aestetix> the reason the student loan issues will fuck over the US....
07:37 <@RangerZ> because people like me don't get married, don't buy houses
07:37 < aestetix> people are putting off having families, and further, putting money into their loan payments rather than the economy
07:37 < aestetix> right
07:37 <@RangerZ> in my case _build_ house, but yes
07:37 < aestetix> which also means the birthrate goes down, and there will be fewer customrs for businesses in ten years
07:38 <@RangerZ> that isn't a big issue
07:38 <@RangerZ> US still have net immigration except for mexicans
07:38 <@RangerZ> Mexicans are actually leaving the country
07:38 < aestetix> so the US will become muslim :p
07:38 < dfused> on the flight back home friday , I had to listen to two canucks yammer on about how awesome canada health care is blah blah....while being humored by the fact that they live down here...
07:39 < aestetix> dfused: german health care is better.
07:39 < aestetix> the only things german health care won't cover is like getting a boob job
07:39 <@RangerZ> AFAIK no '1st world country' has positive birth rate
07:39 <@RangerZ> they are all around 2.1 or something, not the 2.4 they need for growth
07:40 <@RangerZ> US finally hit 2.4 a couple years ago when millennials started to have kids
07:40 < aestetix> I do not want to be around when those kids grow up
07:40 <@RangerZ> b/c there are now more millennials than there are baby boomers
07:40 < aestetix> Millennials are intolerable enough. I can't imagine how annoying their kids will be
07:40 < aestetix> or maybe they will rebel by being reasonable
07:41 <@RangerZ> nah, I mean the "upper millenials", not the "lower millenials"
07:41 <@RangerZ> I think millenials need split into 2 generations
07:41 < aestetix> I saw an article the other day that called some folks the oregon trail generation
07:41 <@RangerZ> 35~28 or so, and 27~18
07:41 < aestetix> RangerZ: I think a big factor is if you can remember life before the internet
07:42 <@RangerZ> yep, thats actually my point
07:42 <@RangerZ> I was telling someone about how I used to have to _call_ the theater and write down on a paper all the times movies were coming out
07:42 <@RangerZ> that way I could plan my trip out
07:43 <@RangerZ> they were completely shocked at the notion of that
07:43 <@RangerZ> or introducing yourself on the phone
07:43 < aestetix> just tell them "there was a time when we didn't have goatse"
07:43 < dfused> now nobody wants touch it for fear of the cooties
07:43 <@RangerZ> because you learned phone manners before caller ID existed (well was universal at least)
07:43 < aestetix> dfused: uh.... got something you wanna tell us?
07:45 < dfused> sooo....should I be good and buy the new xbox one ? trying to understand what ssoo cool about it other than omg omg its new
07:46 <@opticron> no difference other than more storage and comes with a newer controller
07:46 < dfused> can someone verify a site funcitoning?  centurylink.com and click on "For Home" and tell me if it works for you.
07:46 <@opticron> the oldest xbone controllers don't have a headset jack on them
07:46 <@opticron> yep, works here
07:47 <@opticron> the newer controllers do have the headset jack
07:47 <@opticron> the super special bundles have the "elite" controller
07:47 <@opticron> which may matter to you depending on how casual you are about gaming
07:47 < dfused> fuck.  massive lag
07:47 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:47  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:51 <@RangerZ> dfused: honestly the xbox one has pretty much lost this generation
07:52 <@RangerZ> there are a couple console exclusives but they end up on PN
07:52 <@RangerZ> PC*
07:52 <@RangerZ> Like Ori and the Blind Forest
07:53 <@RangerZ> So my recommendation is that you're better off getting a PS4 if you want a new console, plus the PS VR will work with it
07:54 <@opticron> I like my PS4 more than I like the xbone
07:54 <@opticron> my wife thinks the same
07:54 <@opticron> mostly because halo 5 was kind of a bust and that was our major reason for having the xbone
07:55 <@RangerZ> xbone focused too much on TV early one and that hurt its mind-share and its raw performance
07:55 <@RangerZ> it has a slightly faster CPU, but like 40% less GPU, plus it has a super tiny cache that it has to deal with
07:56 <@opticron> and the interface for xbone was crippled because it was designed to be dependent on the kinect which is no longer mandatory for use of the console (the new interface is better, but it's not better than the PS4 interface)
07:56 <@RangerZ> so unless they are a MS published game, almost no one is making exclusives for it
07:56 <@RangerZ> (what is funny is, the PS4 has the same voice commands as the xbox one, but they are just 'optional')
07:57 <@RangerZ> if you have the camera plugged in
07:58 <@RangerZ> which I got for free in a bundle, so I -have- despite not using it most of the time
07:58 <@opticron> huh, I didn't know about that
07:59 <@RangerZ> PS4 doesn't have the 'snap' functionality
07:59 <@RangerZ> but honestly...  that really wasn't -that- useful
08:00 <@RangerZ> and the PS4 exclusives  actually look interesting to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkg5UVTsKCE Horizon Zero Dawn for example
08:04 <@RangerZ> I dunno... red head killing mech dinos with a bow and explosives...
08:08 < dfused> f'ing centuryllink
08:08 < dfused> 1500ms ping times until I call them up and magically 50ms ..."we cant see anything wrong with your line sir
08:08 <@RangerZ> dfused: could be worse, just imagine if we had "overbearing regulations stifling innovation and businesses"
08:09 <@opticron> RangerZ, xbone also eschewed support for HDMI-CEC while PS4 supports at least the basics
08:09 <@RangerZ> we could be stuck in a situation where we have to have only one choice for high speed Internet
08:09 < dfused> and companies mandating isolation of specific traffic and choking them down
08:09 <@opticron> because the kinect was originally required and would handle that kind of equipment management via the IR blaster
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08:09 <@RangerZ> opticron: I wasn't even aware of that
08:09 <@RangerZ> that sucks
08:10 <@opticron> I have a little side project to enable that functionality
08:10 <@RangerZ> dfused: just be glad you live in a nation with "freedom" (for big corp. to charge you lots of money and give you shit service)
08:10 <@RangerZ> ohh? do tell
08:11 < dfused> so basically the only reason I should get them the xbox over ps is that one of them is a halo addict.
08:12 <@RangerZ> dfused: them cutting out couch co-op/vs on halo 5 is the biggest sin IMHO
08:12 <@RangerZ> its literally a single player game now
08:13 <@RangerZ> (that has online multiplayer)
08:13 < dfused> rly? wtf
08:13 <@RangerZ> " Halo 5 is a 'platform' not a 'game' "
08:13 <@RangerZ> meaning they want to sell the micro-transactions
08:13 <@RangerZ> which aren't -just- cosmetic
08:14 < dfused> well then....I'll have to ask them why the hell they want it so badly over ps
08:14 <@RangerZ> they probably don't realize
08:15 < dfused> yeah....just additcted to the name Halo
08:16 <@opticron> also, halo 5 is the worst kind of squad-based it could possibly be
08:16 <@opticron> you have 3 artificial morons tagging along
08:17 <@opticron> and there's a revive system, so they *CAN* get you back up if you go down, but ususally it's just an extra 15 seconds of being dead
08:19 < dfused> well, I'm gonna email him back and have him justify his "need" to have this xbox one.  .... =)
08:19 < dfused> I'm such a nice guy.
08:19 <@opticron> RangerZ, the solution involves embedding an attiny85 in a passthrough adapter and tapping the CEC and power lines to detect client device power up and send the appropriate CEC transactions to do one-touch-play functionality
08:20 <@RangerZ> opticron: wow... thats too much work
08:20 <@RangerZ> lol
08:20 <@RangerZ> that shit should have just been there from the start
08:20 <@opticron> I've finally gotten all the parts together to prototype it, but now I just need to find time
08:22 <@opticron> if I can build them in larger numbers, I'm almost certain people will buy them
08:23 < dfused> ppl will buy anythin
08:29 <@RangerZ> my friend had the job of entering new items into amazon's DB
08:29 <@RangerZ> _anything_ is correct
08:34 < dfused> same goes for books
08:34 < dfused> write a damn book on anything....publish via amazon....get the word out via social media.   boom. money.
08:38 <@Evilpig> fuckin' google analytics
08:39 <@Evilpig> just trying to print a webpage to pdf and it's hung up on trying to load their stupid script
08:41 < dfused> dont badmouth google.   they'll hear you
08:42 <@RangerZ> dfused: wtf
08:42 <@RangerZ> I just got a text from google voice "from wilbur"
08:42 <@RangerZ> telling me to never call him again
08:42 < dfused> lol
08:44 <@RangerZ> if only google voice offered this... http://elitedaily.com/news/world/pay-to-break-up-with-someone/1031533/
08:44 < PigBot> Title: Yep, You Can Now Pay Someone To Break Up With Your GF Or BF For You (at elitedaily.com)
08:44 <@RangerZ> that would be an amazing prank to play one someone
08:45 <@RangerZ> A running gag on Colin and Greg live (Twitch show) is that one of them says "ok google, text (whatever the cameraman's g/f's name is) we're breaking up, send"
08:45 <@RangerZ> because he has a google watch
08:45 <@RangerZ> hehe
08:46 < dfused> evil
08:47 <@RangerZ> you're just pissed you didn't think of it
08:47 <@RangerZ> lol
08:48 <@RangerZ> (as we all are)
08:48 < dfused> yeah
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08:49 < dfused> I think I'm allergic to rum
08:50 < dfused> always makes my sinuses go bat shit
08:50 < dfused> then again....so does tequila
08:50 <@RangerZ> easy, just stop drinking alcohol
08:50 <@RangerZ> you'll have to quit the channel
08:50 <@RangerZ> but *shrugs* small sacrifices
08:50 <@RangerZ> hehe
08:50 < dfused> lol
08:51 < dfused> I'll have to quit alot of things in order to be able to quit drinking....
08:51 <@RangerZ> as long as you aren't a slave toilet to a gay prostitute in your own dungeon
08:51 <@RangerZ> LOL
08:52 < dfused> wow....thats oddly specific
08:52 <@RangerZ> ohh hold on
08:52 < aestetix> uh
08:52 < aestetix> RangerZ: got something you wanna tell us?
08:53 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6Bujaf3AU
08:53 < aestetix> RangerZ: do you hang out in Shadow's dungeon with him?
08:53 <@RangerZ> [Catholic Priest Allegedly Stole Millions To Fund "Toilet Slave" Fetish]
08:53 <@RangerZ> I posted this last night
08:53 < dfused> ahh
08:54 < aestetix> oh ok so you had a thing with your catholic priest
08:54 <@RangerZ> the story just keeps getting funnier and funnier
08:55 <@RangerZ> Tatyana Gudin is the hero of this story
08:58 <@RangerZ> it takes some fucking giant balls to write a cardinal and explain what a 'toilet slave' is...
08:58 <@RangerZ> lol
09:08 < dfused> hurray...ordered my treadmill
09:08 <@RangerZ> wilbur was going to buy one too
09:09 <@RangerZ> then PETA said it was cruelty to animals to make him walk on it
09:09 <@RangerZ> hehe
09:09 < dfused> awww..... piggly
09:09 <@RangerZ> actually I was really shocked at the difference in the calories per minute of treadmill just _walking_ vs elliptical
09:10 <@RangerZ> like 3~4x more
09:10 <@RangerZ> maybe 2~3x I forget, it was a lot either way
09:11 < dfused> well I typically prefer an elliptical since I can get speed while no impact to knees....but I got the treadmill cause I need to provide a way for me to at least walk more when at home
09:39 <@Evilpig> bah!  got my new laptop but the network here is retarded and fighting me.  tried to do a thunderbolt transfer but didn't realize that this laptop only has a display port.  stupid apple reusing connectors...
09:39 < aestetix> RangerZ: so have you started going back to church?
09:48 <@RangerZ> no
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09:52 <@RangerZ> dfused: so the PS VR headset is the first headset that people are being allowed to put on their own for demos
09:53 <@RangerZ> which is a big thing for VR , because allowing people to adjust the headset themselves could lead to drastically bad experiences
09:54 <@RangerZ> and apparently their VR headset is he most comfortable/etc (which kinda makes sense from a consumer electronics company, who already sells 3D headsets, etc)
10:00 <@CRasH180> Evilpig: Good luck. Glad my Macbook pro has HDMI connection
10:00 <@Evilpig> this one does too
10:00 <@Evilpig> part of my issue may be that I have too much shit installed on this one 
10:00 <@Evilpig> the new one only has a 250gb drive where this had a 500
10:00 <@CRasH180> ahh, probably. Time to offload some stuff.
10:00 <@CRasH180> Luckily mine is a 500 gb drive
10:01 <@Evilpig> i'm cleaning now
10:01 <@CRasH180> Use a push broom
10:01 <@CRasH180> much faster
10:05 < Healix> thats what Clinton would do
10:06 <@RangerZ> Evilpig just ties his kittens to a pole and pushes them around
10:15 <@RangerZ> you know... I'm used to snow on halloween or just after
10:16 <@RangerZ> THIS weather is fucking bullshit
10:19 <@RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/amd-embraces-open-source-to-take-on-nvidias-gameworks/
10:19 < PigBot> Title: AMD embraces open source to take on Nvidia’s GameWorks | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
10:19 <@RangerZ> fucking wonderful news
10:19 <@RangerZ> [AMD will use the permissive MIT license, allowing GPUOpen code to be used without any practical restriction in both open and closed source applications, and will publish all code on GitHub.]
10:24 < Healix> i saw that, it's awesome. I wish amd would just say fuck it and focus on 100% linux compatiability and own that side of the marke
10:25 <@RangerZ> they don't want to go bankrupt
10:25 < Healix> ....aren't they though
10:25 < Healix> :)
10:26 <@RangerZ> not really
10:26 <@RangerZ> PS4 and XBONE print money for them
10:26 < Healix> i didnt realize they used amd in that, just never crossed my mind actually
10:26 <@RangerZ> selling 60 million (at least to the manf.) Systems in 3 years is quite good on the balance sheet
10:27 <@RangerZ> and AMD APU (x86 or arm) is suppose to power Nintendo's new console(s) too
10:44 <@RangerZ> kinda glad/surprised to see Christian Science Monitor doing a good job with this article http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2015/1215/San-Bernardino-shooter-sent-jihadi-Facebook-message-in-2012-How-should-FBI-respond
10:44 < PigBot> Title: San Bernardino shooter sent jihadi Facebook message in 2012: How should FBI respond? - CSMonitor.com (at www.csmonitor.com)
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10:59 <@RangerZ> [Get a free standard domain for the new year with Google Domains] just got an xmas gift from google, lol
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11:00 <@Evilpig> better lookout RangerZ, now google's gonna expect you to put out
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11:06 <@RangerZ> google didn't need to do that, it already has all my email and everything else, it just had to ask
11:11 < dfused> just a handy
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11:34 < Synx|hm> who here has a spouse/family that is non-technically inclined and a complex home network/file backup etc setup? im starting to realize if anything happened to me my wife would be screwed, wouldn't know how to get to the backups, or even maintain the network, let alone all the home automation shit
11:39 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: duh
11:39 <@RangerZ> that is why you have kids
11:39 <@RangerZ> to take care of your wife when you die
11:39 <@RangerZ> also so they can be free labor until they marry off
11:40 <@RangerZ> that is why you should have at least 6 to 9 so far
11:40 <@RangerZ> that way they can take shifts on the farm
11:40 <@RangerZ> ;)
11:41 <@RangerZ> but in all seriousness, that is why a file hierarchy structure is so important, that way they will know where to look for things without your help
11:42 < dfused> and you could always write up instructions
11:42 <@RangerZ> and one that "makes sense" to her
11:42 < dfused> or TEACH them
11:42 <@RangerZ> dfused: "happy wife = happy life" he wants to keep his "only miserable sometimes" life
11:42 <@RangerZ> lol
11:43 < dfused> meh...their never happy
11:43 < dfused> they're
11:43 < dfused> sheesh
11:43 < dfused> holy fuck balls....I think I have a critter in my AC system..
11:45 <@opticron> ehh, my wife tends to stay happy
11:46 <@opticron> as long as her video game addiction is properly fed
11:47 <@RangerZ> opticron: I've been trying to tell oddball to get PS+ and a PS device, that way he can build a catalog of free games
11:48 <@RangerZ> I have spent 50$/yr for like 3 years and have like... 160 free games or something
11:48 <@RangerZ> lol
11:48 <@Evilpig> and when you stop paying for ps+ you lose them all?
11:49 <@RangerZ> yeah, but "shrugs"
11:50 <@RangerZ> you _need_ PS+ to play online anyways now
11:50 <@RangerZ> but even before that 6 free games to try out a month is worth it
11:51 < Synx|hm> the problem is the complexity of this setup, all virtualized on an ESXi host, multi vlans, vm of pfsense for routing/firewall to WAN, and ZFS setup for network file access/backup
11:51 < Synx|hm> if any one of these things goes down she is going to SOL for getting it back up
11:51 <@Evilpig> this is going to come back to bite me in the ass eventually.  alias curl='curl -k'
11:52 < dfused> lol
11:52 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: I have a similar setup but I live alone.  :D
11:52 < Synx|hm> perhaps i have a box that has a pre-setup consumer grade router and instruction for how to hook it up to internet, then trust somebody locally who knows this stuff to be able to get the files at least off the systems before it gets tossed in the trash
11:52 < dfused> aliases often do
11:52 <@Evilpig> this was failing for me.  curl -v 'https://www.usenet-crawler.com/'
11:52 < Synx|hm> never mind all this z-wave shit ive been doing will stop working if any of this gear goes offline
11:53 <@Evilpig> after some digging openssl doesn't much like it either.  one of their certs is being retarded
11:54 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: having a replacement 'network' is generally not a bad idea, drop in consumer gear was always at the hotels who actually cared about 'up time'
11:54 <@RangerZ> mind you... it wouldn't get the 'rooms' online in that case, but they could plug a cable in and get the lobby/business center online
11:55 < Synx|hm> ya, i guess i should probably also put coax back into each room for this doomsday i die scenario
11:55 <@RangerZ> for TV?
11:55 <@Evilpig> you call it doomsday, we call it "friday"
11:55 < Synx|hm> all tv is over IP at the moment via cablecard hdhomerun device so ive actually cut out all the coax from teh rooms
11:55 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: bad idea...
11:56 <@RangerZ> no only is it a bad idea... you're just making fucking work for yourself, lol
11:56 < Synx|hm> i removed it all because a, it was horribly run in the basement and b, the fucking drilled holes into the hardwood floor for it instead of putting in a simple low voltage box in the wall
11:56 <@RangerZ> ahh
11:56 < Synx|hm> ill slowely add it back i guess inwall this time :)
11:57 < Synx|hm> with proper runs to a single distro center
11:57 < Synx|hm> anyways back to pulling romex
11:57 < Synx|hm> afk
11:57 <@RangerZ> yeah, probably your best bet,
11:58 <@Evilpig> can I change "friday" to "tuesday" ?
11:58 <@Evilpig> I mean... good luck on pullin that romex!
11:59 <@Evilpig> my tv indexer is much happier now that it can connect 
12:05 < _NSAKEY> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-experts-gait-pattern-russian.html
12:05 < PigBot> Title: Experts discover new gait pattern among top Russian officials (at phys.org)
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12:13 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I like to think they just all have parkinsons
12:13 <@RangerZ> (watch that actually be true) lol
12:13 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That would be the most hilarious possible outcome.
12:14 < _NSAKEY> Cue the "KGB GIVES YOU PARKINSON'S" conspiracy theories.
12:15 <@RangerZ> and "wow" @ LA schools all being cancelled
12:15 <@RangerZ> canceled*
12:15 <@RangerZ> 3/4 million _students_
12:15 < _NSAKEY> About that...
12:15 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/ZeddRebel/status/676821193715015680
12:15 < PigBot> Title: Zeddonymous on Twitter: "Modern. Terrorists. Do. Not. Call. In. Warnings." (at twitter.com)
12:16 <@RangerZ> actually I don't know
12:17 <@RangerZ> If I worked for the _other_ ISIS... I'd probably do just that
12:17 <@RangerZ> make people _scared_
12:17 <@CRasH180> do you think the person that came up with the name "Isis" has a stuttering problem?
12:18 <@RangerZ> no, I think "ISIL" is fucking joke
12:18 <@RangerZ> The L is meant to be an ancient name for Syria that includes Israel
12:18 < _NSAKEY> Calling them daesh is funnier, because then you can move to calling them daeshbags.
12:18 < trickshotjohnny> I like to imagine it pronounced Ifif as if by Barry Kripke or Elmer Fudd
12:18 <@RangerZ> that way we can play it off that fighting ISIS is 'defending Israel'
12:19 <@CRasH180> Well if you say isis is, you seriously are stuttering
12:19 <@CRasH180> well, if isis is pronounced ess ess
12:20 <@CRasH180> you know what I mean
12:20 <@CRasH180> I am going to lunch
12:23 <@RangerZ> aestetix: fucking sending bomb threats to LA and NY
12:23 <@RangerZ> (because ALL crimes in .DE are now aestetix's fault)
12:25 <@RangerZ> https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/676827492447989761
12:25 < PigBot> Title: Chuck Todd on Twitter: "Its clear the LAPD and mayor believe the threat isnt real anymore or they wouldnt be spending so much time defending decision (at twitter.com)
12:26 <@RangerZ> chuck todd actually doing journalism
12:28 <@RangerZ> or should I say... he is actually having an opinion
12:30 <@Evilpig> lol  http://www.mtv.com/news/2133580/celebrity-deathmatch-coming-back-mtv2/
12:30 < PigBot> Title: Brace Yourselves: 'Celebrity Deathmatch' Is Coming Back - MTV (at www.mtv.com)
12:32 <@RangerZ> I want to see Jesus vs Mohammad
12:32 <@Mirage> lol.. "Neil Degrasse Tyson vs. Bill Nye"
12:32 <@RangerZ> let them animate _that_
12:32 <@Mirage> Should be more like "Neil Degrasse Tyson vs. Carl Sagan"
12:34 <@Evilpig> seems like jesus was in some of those
12:34 <@Mirage> Yeah, I could have sworn they did one
12:35 <@Evilpig> maybe a christmas one?
12:35 <@Mirage> Quick search on youtube has jesus vs hitler.
12:35 <@Evilpig> in any case, i'll be adding it to plex soon.  heh
13:02 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: https://twitter.com/mattblaze/status/676839578351833088
13:02 < PigBot> Title: matt blaze on Twitter: "These kids dont know how easy they have it. Back in *my* day you had to pull the fire alarm in person to get school closed for a test. (at twitter.com)
13:04 <@RangerZ> we had someone calling with a cell phone bomb scares when I was in HS
13:05 < _NSAKEY> I only missed 1 day in high school. I would have simply been late, but by the time I got there cops were blocking off the entrances.
13:05 <@RangerZ> they ended up using a portable tower/equipment to triangulate where he was when he made the calls
13:05 <@RangerZ> 9/11 ?
13:06 < _NSAKEY> Apparently someone stuck a note in a bathroom saying that there was a bomb in the school.
13:06 <@RangerZ> ahh
13:06 < _NSAKEY> The cop told me that they were going to dismiss everyone after they cleared the area, and instructed me to go home.
13:06 < _NSAKEY> School resumed afterwards, and I didn't know that until the next day.
13:06 <@RangerZ> ahh
13:07 < _NSAKEY> To my knowledge, nobody ever got caught for that, despite the fact that they had cameras trained on all the bathroom entrances.
13:19 <@Dagmar> I note a lack of the word "working" in conjunction with the word "cameras"
13:20 < Synx|hm> does such a thing exist as a TLS wrapper application, i need to have some software talk tls that does not support it, i was thinking perhaps a tls socket wrapper that could open a local port the software could use
13:20 < Synx|hm> i dont care about auth, just needs to be encrypted channel
13:20 <@Dagmar> stunnel?
13:22 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: sounds like a vpn setup to me?
13:23 < Synx|hm> kinda not really, stunnel might work
13:23 <@opticron> yeah, stunnel
13:23 <@opticron> I've used it before
13:23 < Synx|hm> the usecase is as follows, im delivering a software solution to a customer that does not support tls
13:23 < Synx|hm> it normally talks on their LAN to a server using a custom protocol
13:23 < Synx|hm> the server supports TLS and this customer has enabled/required it
13:24 <@Dagmar> So long as that protocol is tcp, stunnel should do ya
13:24 < Synx|hm> so i just need to setup a TLS socket in windows that my shitty software can then use and to it looks like its talking no-secure normal normal
13:24 <@opticron> yep
13:24 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: ha indeed on the TCP ;) well at least i hope, if the app does UDP then obviously im SOL
13:25 <@Dagmar> No basically, _then_ you _have_ to use OpenVPN or something
13:25 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps a hardware vlan
13:25 < Synx|hm> or just tell the customer too bad you purchased this POS you get to live with it ;)
13:26 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Works for me
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13:56 <@Dagmar> MInecraft-related, and thankfully only 16 minutes long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW_fdXHOWp4
14:23 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: To my knowledge all the cameras in that place worked.
14:23 <@Dagmar> The cameras might "work" but if they're not recording to anyplace, they're only there for faculty to remotely observe students.  they don't provide anything particularly useful in the way of "safety"
14:24 < _NSAKEY> Knowing that place, neither would surprise me.
14:25 <@Dagmar> pretty sure vgcfgrestore is only useful if you used vgcfgbackup to copy the metadata previously
14:37 <@Dagmar> Lesson learned.
14:38 <@Dagmar> While Synfig Studio _can_ import SVG images now, they'd better be _simple_ SVG Images (THOU SHALT NOT USE PATHED COLORS) or the entire thing runs unforgiveably slow
14:39 <@Dagmar> I laughingly created 512 little shaded squares in Inkscape (which was slow _there_... first warning sign) and then imported that into Synfig Studio
14:39 <@Dagmar> Despite the huffing and puffing, I told it to make a three second video, saw that it was taking about three seconds per frame and aborted it
14:40 <@Dagmar> As per usual with transcoding sub-jobs, this didn't kill it
14:40 <@Dagmar> A few minutes later, pale blue Win10 screen of death because of some watchdog thing or other
14:40 <@Dagmar> PNG images it is!
14:44 < _NSAKEY> Probably because you turned all the built-in spyware off.
14:44 <@Dagmar> That's possible.  heh
14:44 <@Dagmar> I've flipped the service for that back on because I thought it might be related to the workgroup stupidity
14:45 <@Dagmar> Now dryad can see itself in the workgroup
14:45 <@Dagmar> ...still no other machine
14:45 <@Dagmar> @#$@# windows
14:45 < dfused> word.
14:45 <@Dagmar> My samba shares still mount tho
14:45 <@Dagmar> Just Windows usual nonsense of magically deciding it won't see anything else in the workgroup
14:45 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, hides them from the workgroup browser
14:46 <@Dagmar> I vaguely remember for Win7 it did this, and then enabling Homegroups (for some reason) brought it back
14:46 <@Dagmar> Not workin' for Win10, so... probably the change in Win7 made it work again out of sheer luck
14:47 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/briankrebs/status/676865897265569792
14:47 < PigBot> Title: briankrebs on Twitter: "LA school threat reportedly came thru cock.li, a service popular on 8chan. Cock.li published subpoena from NYC re similar email threat. (at twitter.com)
14:47 <@Dagmar> MS appears to have fixed the regression with audio outputs migrating to a new headset properly tho
14:47 <@Dagmar> That wasn't working last week, and it's working now
14:48 <@Dagmar> Maybe they'll finally fix the crap with Windows randomly deciding it's the only thing in the workgroup, but I doubt it
14:48 <@Dagmar> (...and no, the samba configurations are quite sane, and haven't changed in months)
14:49 <@Dagmar> Hell my laptop still running XP sees them fine
14:49 <@RangerZ> https://twitter.com/Roy_techhwood/status/676784685201031170
14:49 < PigBot> Title: Roy Taylor on Twitter: "Delighted to announce GPU Open, because open stds benefit everyone; https://t.co/XFl7JQgb3y @AMDRadeon #gameworks https://t.co/YJCdBEqxXG (at twitter.com)
14:49 <@RangerZ> non-coders are going to read that wrong
14:49 <@RangerZ> lol
14:49 <@Dagmar> RangerZ++
14:51 <@Dagmar> BNA gets direct flight to SFO (yay)
14:51 <@Dagmar> Said flights are on United Airlines (fuck)
14:52 <@RangerZ> yep
14:52 <@RangerZ> good news though United was able to cut away 1/4 an inch in leg room and fit an addition row of seats on your next flight
14:53 <@RangerZ> ;)
14:53 < dfused> capitalist pig dogs
14:53 <@Dagmar> Eventually NATO will step in on that shit
14:53 <@Dagmar> I flew in the backmost row of seats once
14:54 <@Dagmar> Next time I'll fuckin walk
14:54 <@Evilpig> BNA -> SFO direct flights are just more proof that nashville is becoming san fran
14:54 < dfused> yeah thats a special level of hell there
14:54 <@Dagmar> There's like 18 inches
14:54 < dfused> next to shitter and no recline
14:54 <@Dagmar> My femur is longer than that
14:55 <@Dagmar> I spent a good deal of the flight in a deranged duck and cover posture
14:55 <@Dagmar> At least the stewardesses let me and the other guy damned to that row _stand_ for most of the flight
14:56 <@Dagmar> The other dude was actually two inches taller than me
14:56 <@Dagmar> The first one came up and actually started to ask us to put our feet on the floor
14:56 <@Dagmar> Didn't even get through her sentence.  Heh
14:57 < dfused> thankfully I got enough points that I dont deal much with that
15:08 <@RangerZ> I'm waiting for the 'pods' like in 5th element, where you just lay down into the vertical stacking
15:09 <@RangerZ> part of me thinks it would at least be more comfortable
15:09 <@Dagmar> You can probably already ship yourself via FedEx if you try hard enough
15:09 <@RangerZ> more claustrophobic YES... but
15:09 <@Dagmar> At least with FedEx there's a delivery guarantee
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16:56 <@RangerZ> aestetix: beware "boyonetta on Smash Bros." is gonna set your twitter aflame with SJW crap
16:58 <@Dagmar> Fuck that
16:59 <@Dagmar> Change the argument to who the hell has the right to define how Bayonetta is "allowed" to express her sexuality.
16:59 <@Dagmar> Get them arguing pointlessly with each other and call it done
17:00 <@Dagmar> Vader: Because you have a database server
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17:19 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: Alpha 2.0 for Star Citizen just came out today
17:19 <@RangerZ> so you have to redownload it
17:19 <@Dagmar> I doubt that
17:20 <@RangerZ> I had to redownload the hangar module like 5x in a week once
17:20 <@RangerZ> files kept getting corrupted
17:20 <@Dagmar> It came out on the 12th.  It's what I have installed
17:20 <@RangerZ> ahh ok
17:20 <@RangerZ> I just got the email
17:20 <@Dagmar> I've been to the hangar, which apparently I did in a way that doesn't actually let you go into the ship
17:21 <@Dagmar> ...and I've been to the space station, which has ABYSMAL frame rates
17:21 <@Dagmar> I'll beat on it again later tonight in 800x600
17:21 <@Dagmar> They should probably eliminate the meaningless sound effects in the space station
17:21 <@Dagmar> ...unless this is like Elite where those sounds mean there's idiots nearby smashing themselves into the hull
17:23 <@RangerZ> its using CryEngine
17:23 <@RangerZ> and this is going to be the new "can it run Crysis 2?"
17:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm noticing
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17:31 <@Dagmar> nszceta: Perhaps you have overlooked that it apparently comes with no drives
17:37 <@RangerZ> really?
17:37 <@RangerZ> we all thought it came with drives
17:37 <@RangerZ> hehe
17:41 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/TB2IVT24.0S/
17:41 < PigBot> Title: OWC 24.0TB ThunderBay 4, four-drive HDD with dual... in stock at OWC (at eshop.macsales.com)
17:41 <@Dagmar> Their site kind of sucks.  They copied the verbiage from the unit without the disks, which makes it look like they're charging $1619 for an empty box
17:51 < aestetix> penis
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18:01 <@RangerZ> ahh, I was just commenting on the MT
18:01 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: ^
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18:39 <@RangerZ> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178393 $134.99 (after 10$ coupon code right now)
18:39 < PigBot> Title: Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gbs Internal Hard Drive - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com)
18:39 < dfused> you are not supposed to tell me what you are getting me for xmas
18:40 <@RangerZ> dfused: I was going to get you http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016OFYGXQ/ref=br_asw_pdt-4/189-1969080-7724029
18:40 <@RangerZ> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016OFYGXQ/
18:40 <@RangerZ> [Samsung Gear VR - Virtual Reality Headset]
18:41 <@RangerZ> but since I said it... guess the surprise is over
18:41 <@RangerZ> so I'll just get you a hug
18:41 < dfused> PORN!
18:41 < dfused> lol
18:41 < dfused> d'awwwww
18:41 <@Dagmar> Ah... someone learned about the PornHub Premium gift cards
18:41 <@RangerZ> actually, since steam now sell AO games
18:41 <@RangerZ> you can buy them on steam
18:41 <@RangerZ> that stupid game [Hatred] actually had a good benefit of causing that
18:42 <@Dagmar> AO?
18:42 <@RangerZ> Adult Only
18:42 <@Dagmar> Weird that I've not noticed that before now
18:42 <@RangerZ> its the game equivalent of NC17
18:42 <@Dagmar> Probably for the Ausies
18:42 <@RangerZ> there has only been like 7 games in history that have gotten it
18:43 <@RangerZ> b/c everyone cuts their game to get M
18:43 <@RangerZ> http://i.imgur.com/ndHMncG.jpg HAHAHA
18:43 <@RangerZ> google search wins this round
18:44 <@Dagmar> I'm not even seeing Hatred come up in a search
18:44 <@RangerZ> http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/341940/
18:44 < PigBot> Title: Hatred on Steam (at store.steampowered.com)
18:44 <@RangerZ> you need to age-check
18:44 <@Dagmar> Apparently they don't look at all the other times I've done that
18:45 <@RangerZ> nope
18:45 <@RangerZ> that is actually my #1 complaint about steam's desktop app
18:45 <@RangerZ> I understand the webpage, but wtf... my _login_ can't remember I'm of age...
18:45 < dfused> https://www.rt.com/usa/326056-southwest-airlines-plane-crash-nashville/
18:45 < PigBot> Title: Injuries reported after Southwest Airlines plane crash lands in Nashville — RT USA (at www.rt.com)
18:45 <@RangerZ> basically CYA to prevent kids from viewing M rated trailers and moms getting pissy
18:47 <@RangerZ> http://fox17.com/news/local/sw-plane-skids-off-runway-at-bna
18:47 < PigBot> Title: SW Plane Skids Off Runway at BNA | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | WZTV (at fox17.com)
18:47 <@RangerZ> [The Nashville Fire Department transported three people to Summit Hospital. All injuries are minor.]
18:47 < dfused> what,,my shit wasnt good enough?
18:47 <@RangerZ> no
18:48 < dfused> oh. =(
18:48 <@RangerZ> Dagmar told me to never trust your stash
18:48 < dfused> time for seppuku
18:48 <@RangerZ> something about it being cut with ajax
18:48 < dfused> lol
18:48 <@RangerZ> and I think he meant the javascript practice because he had taken 2000mg of acid
18:48 <@RangerZ> hehe
18:50 <@RangerZ> or was it molly, is that what they are calling it now? or is it only a variant? (I honestly don't know/keep track, lol)
18:50 < dfused> only the best
18:50 < dfused> adrafinil has some great benefits ... and its legal
18:52 < dfused> sigh.... finally wrapping up the rest of testing results... so now to get back to binge watching.... this time gonna run through Fringe.
18:52 < aestetix> .....
18:52 < aestetix> you mean ug
18:52 < aestetix> 2000mg would be... something else
18:54 < dfused> dashing through the snow.....laughing all the way
19:08 <@RangerZ> no I mean mg
19:08 <@RangerZ> its a joke about a tv show
19:45 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZuwJbzvkE The Majority Report 12/15/15 - Fifth GOP Debate
19:45 <@RangerZ> he's MST3K'ing the debate
19:48 <@RangerZ> including fake doll heads infront of the screen, lol
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20:58 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: 29 titles -ever- AO in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AO-rated_video_games
20:58 < PigBot> Title: List of AO-rated video games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
21:23 < _NSAKEY> ... And EvilPig has them all.
22:12 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: 5 of the games released from "MacDaddy Entertainment" LOL
22:23 <@RangerZ> aestetix: forgot to say that cosby admitted in a 2005 deposition that he bought quaaludes to give to women
22:23 <@RangerZ> http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-cosby-quaaludes-sexual-assault-allegations/
22:23 < PigBot> Title: Bill Cosby admitted he got Quaaludes to give to women - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
22:24 <@RangerZ> and even when he did that.... he didn't face criminal charges....
22:26 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Heh.  Usually Illusion just lets people import or pirate them
22:34 <@RangerZ> and hell, several of those are when GTA games were hacked to have naked scenes
22:37 <@Dagmar> Well, and the one that had them in there to begin with
22:37 <@Dagmar> I still have that ISO
22:37 <@Dagmar> _Just because_ they patched it out later
22:43 <@Dagmar> saint_: Please explain Donald Trump
22:46 < dfused> a picture cross tween mussolini and angry cat.
22:52 <@Dagmar> Someone was trying to make the argument that people naturally get wiser as they get older.
22:52 <@Dagmar> Time was of the essence.
22:52  * Catonic coughs
22:53 <@Dagmar> From what I can tell, Trump's hairpiece is probably the brains of that operation now.
22:53 < dfused> learn more certainly.....wiser?  I would say not necessarily. wisdom comes from being able to properly apply knowledge.
22:53 <@Catonic> wait... so women were using bill cosby to get drugs?
22:53 <@Dagmar> Catonic: It woudln't be the first time
22:54 <@Catonic> I am shocked. I am appalled. I am angry. I've never heard of such before.
22:54 <@Dagmar> Man part of the reason the manager of the Underground thought I was gay was because I got a few girls pretty messed up and just took them home and tucked them into bed
22:54 <@Catonic> A woman taking advantage of a man for things he has or has access to? Preposterous!
22:55 <@Dagmar> "I don't understand.  I woke up in my clothes."
22:55 <@Dagmar> lol
22:58 <@Catonic> meh... I had one time when this girl woke up and thought we'd hooked up... I had to set her straight...
22:59 <@Catonic> she was on something the night before, about freaked out because my rifle was perched across the stove (and she doesn't do guns)... at home point she got hot or warm or something and got comfortable.
23:00 <@Catonic> it was the definition of awkward because we slept on the futon and I have a bed in the other room.
23:00 <@Dagmar> Seeing 'He Never Died' this weekend will be nice
23:00 <@Catonic> "Why?" "Because I'm a light sleeper and I can't trust your crazy around my guns."
23:00 <@Dagmar> I'll be able to just cruise up past all the people in line and say "I'm here to *not* see Star Wars.  Lemme in."
23:01 <@Catonic> *at some point
23:01 <@Dagmar> ...and I doubt there'll be anyone in that theatre except proper civilized punks
23:01 <@Dagmar> No babies, no fanboys, no idiots.
23:01 <@Catonic> peace. it's worth it./
23:01 <@Dagmar> No one in freakin' costumes
23:04 <@Dagmar> Man the bash_history file I was reading earlier lol
23:04 <@Dagmar> Someone in ##Linux had messed up with their mdraid and made changes to their vgs while it was ongoing
23:04 <@Dagmar> They basically accomplished KleinFS
23:05 <@Dagmar> After reading their bash_history and seeing precisely what they did the answer became "Lol no that data is gone"
23:05 <@Dagmar> There's not going to be any recovering of that
23:05 <@Catonic> lol
23:05 <@Catonic> "wat? ohshit!"
23:07 <@Dagmar> In a roundabout way they managed to do the exact thing I'd narrowly dodged a few weeks ago when I made vgs inside a virtual disk with the same volgroup name the parent host used
23:08 <@Dagmar> vgcreate checks that you don't create a new volgroup with the same name... but... if you don't partition your VM's LV... the parent host will see the metadata inside it
23:09 <@Dagmar> }: Unfortunately, filesystems don't write to the end of the filesystem first.
23:20 <@Catonic> shite
23:20 <@Catonic> Never ran across that issue, but that's a heck of a problem
23:20 <@Dagmar> yeah I nearly wet myself when I ran lvs from the vmhost the next morning
23:21 <@Catonic> I was always amused that LVM had issues early on with underscores, and RHEL decided to default to including underscores... give it a release or two and they got it fixed.
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