--- Log opened Mon Dec 14 00:00:37 2015 03:31 < aestetix> penis 04:04 <@Dagmar> Is that what's in your mouth? 04:06 <@Dagmar> styler2go: ISC's dhcpd 04:26 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: you're on a roll tonight 04:27 <@Dagmar> Just sorted another problem with my vmhost (fucking network manager nonsense) 04:27 <@Dagmar> For some reason the damn thing got the idea that ipv4.method on br0 should be set to "manual" 04:27 <@Dagmar> ...despite the fact that I sorted that last night finally 04:28 <@Dagmar> WHY it was still getting a lease with DHCP I have no idea 04:28 <@Dagmar> Something switched some shit around on me 04:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: But since you're up and feeling snarky, please explain why there's an Aurora MR AC Starter and a Squadron 42 Preorder package... for the same price.... which apparently yield the _exact_ same things? 04:31 <@Dagmar> Squadron 42 preorder even has the same ship 04:47 < aestetix> I love arguing free market capitalism with communists 04:47 < aestetix> It's so easy to destroy their arguments 05:35 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: probably because they didn't used to offer the same thing, one likely had beta or alpha access and the other didn't, or they were at different prices at one point, etc. 05:36 <@RangerZ> they have always been making decisions 30 days after they should, and never thought of unintended consequences, "Life Time Insurance" is one of those things 05:36 <@RangerZ> then not having alpha/beta access to people who buy in 'now' 05:37 <@RangerZ> (which was stupid) 05:48 <@Dagmar> I was wondering 05:48 <@Dagmar> The _only_ thing I could think was that it was because of some separation of pricing, since 42 is supposed to go up after 2016 05:49 <@Dagmar> That kinda signifies it's time for me to throw $45 at them 05:49 <@Dagmar> It should at least not suck on a 750 05:52 <@Dagmar> I'm sure they're very proud of their web design but I wonder if perhaps they've realized it takes MULTIPLE TABS to figure out a damn thing with the ships 05:59 <@RangerZ> maybe now isn't a bad time 06:00 <@RangerZ> yeah.... they are kinda playing a shell game now with information 06:00 <@RangerZ> they have to pump out SO MUCH information for the 'concierge' level people 1000$+ to make them 'happy' 06:00 <@RangerZ> that they can't fit it on a single window/etc. 06:01 <@RangerZ> I've honestly just put the entire site/game out of my mind until SQ42 and the PU release 06:04 <@RangerZ> because it would be a full time job trying to keep up with it all 06:04 <@RangerZ> (I tried for a while, and it became too much 'work') so I just gave up 06:12 < aestetix> actually RangerZ maybe you'd know 06:12 < aestetix> who is a good opponent of Milton Friedman/von Hayek? 06:13 < aestetix> Noam Chomsky is a lunatic, and Gore Vidal isn't enough of an economist 06:13 < aestetix> And Marx has his own set of issues 06:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:03 <@RangerZ> aestetix: Robert Reich 07:03 <@RangerZ> [Secretary of Labor under President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997.] 07:04 <@RangerZ> plus he is good in front of the camera 07:05 <@RangerZ> so he is decent person to use a foil 07:05 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Reich 07:05 < PigBot> Title: Robert Reich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 07:08 <@RangerZ> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/charlielyne/make-the-censors-watch-paint-drying?ref=48hr it has 8700$ now 07:08 < PigBot> Title: Make the Censors Watch 'Paint Drying' by Charlie Lyne Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com) 07:08 <@RangerZ> hehe 07:20 < aestetix> RangerZ: hmmmm. good suggestion 07:20 < aestetix> he has a documentary or something too right? 07:21 <@RangerZ> yeah 07:21 <@RangerZ> a (few?) 07:22 < aestetix> I don't mind communism, but I do mind when communists can't make a coherent argument beyond blabber 07:22 <@RangerZ> you're just lucky that you have people over there willing to call themselves that 07:23 <@RangerZ> it opens the door for more "moderate" liberals 07:23 <@RangerZ> The US's biggest issue (in that area) is the lack of far left wing parties 07:23 < aestetix> most of the communists are americans who are mad at the US government and using communism as a poster child 07:23 < aestetix> it's fucking annoying 07:24 <@RangerZ> doesn't matter 07:24 <@RangerZ> thats all it takes 07:24 <@RangerZ> that allows "liberals" to point to them and say "look we aren't like that" 07:25 < aestetix> whereas I am pretty conservative, which means I believe people should be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt me 07:25 <@RangerZ> its like how the rest of us in this channel point to you and say "look, we aren't like aestetix" and it helps us all out 07:25 < aestetix> haha 07:25 <@RangerZ> aestetix: actually that isn't conservative at all, thats pretty liberal 07:25 < aestetix> ... 07:25 < aestetix> conservative meaning that the government is limited and does very little 07:25 <@RangerZ> historically and present day politics both 07:25 < aestetix> liberal seems to mean government programs taking care of everyone 07:26 <@RangerZ> except in practice 07:26 < aestetix> well have you noticed that most of the SJWs keep wanting someone else to fix things for them? 07:26 < aestetix> IMHO a conservative says "if I need it, I'll do it on my own" 07:27 <@RangerZ> haha, don't kid yourself, most of them want clicks and e-penis/vag size, so they say whatever they think will rile the most people up 07:27 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I'm just saying that the conservative parties don't actually -behave- that way 07:27 <@RangerZ> GOP attacks on planned parenthood for example 07:27 < aestetix> then they aren't conservative 07:27 < aestetix> yeah that was great, a pro-lifer shooting people and killing them 07:28 <@RangerZ> got 23 seconds of coverage on Fox News 07:28 <@RangerZ> they timed it 07:28 < aestetix> I mean with abortion it's kind of up for debate if the damn thing is alive or not 07:28 <@RangerZ> a REAL "domestic terrorist" 07:28 < aestetix> if someone is walking down the street, they are clearly alive 07:28 <@RangerZ> and they barely cover it 07:28 < aestetix> I don't think fox news is conservative. 07:28 <@RangerZ> no its super conservative (political party) 07:29 < aestetix> They are like a half aborted entertainment system 07:29 <@RangerZ> Fox News was created by roger ailes who worked in nixon admin. and SAID publicly that he/someone should make a right wing political tv channel 07:29 <@RangerZ> and is now half owned by a suadi prince 07:30 <@RangerZ> Lawrence Lessig is right on the issues, but is politically stupid. He should have backed Bernie 07:30 <@RangerZ> I'm starting to _heavily_ agree that getting money out of politics is the #1 issue we face domestically 07:31 <@RangerZ> the news channels make a MAJORITY of their yearly revenue from political ads 07:31 < aestetix> Lessig's mistake is trying to play by the rules 07:31 <@RangerZ> and I mean that in the 'correct literary sense' as in 50%+ 07:31 <@RangerZ> nah, you can play within the rules, and still get things done 07:31 < aestetix> I thoght News Corp owned Fox News 07:32 <@RangerZ> yep, and 50% owned by saudi 07:32 <@RangerZ> or something 07:32 < aestetix> so half saudi, half murdoch 07:33 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal 07:33 < PigBot> Title: Al-Waleed bin Talal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 07:33 <@RangerZ> looks like it isn't 50%, but is "2nd largest investor at like 10%" 07:33 <@RangerZ> but still 07:34 <@RangerZ> news corp stocks are rigged so that murdoch and a few others are the only ones who really get to vote anyways, and the prince is in that group 07:35 < aestetix> it would be fun to hack into fox news and set the top story being an interview with Corydon about butt play 07:36 <@RangerZ> but anyways... I think Reich is a good source, since he has been calling the alarm on issues like... http://www.salon.com/2015/12/12/robert_reich_the_sharing_economy_will_be_our_demise_partner/ 07:36 < PigBot> Title: Robert Reich: The sharing economy will be our demise - Salon.com (at www.salon.com) 07:36 <@RangerZ> well before others 07:36 <@RangerZ> and he's right about uber/etc 07:36 < aestetix> you know, the sharing economy isn't an economy 07:37 < aestetix> it's basically a collection of serfdoms 07:37 <@RangerZ> thats an economy 07:37 <@RangerZ> doesn't mean it is a GOOD one 07:37 <@RangerZ> but it IS one 07:37 <@RangerZ> Russia had an economy when it had surfs 07:40 <@RangerZ> sharing economy is interesting though in other ways, like how it might lead to better(more common) coop type industries 07:40 <@RangerZ> a Hostel-like hotel with mini rooms in a DownTown area that mainly uses AirBNB/etc for booking 07:40 <@RangerZ> I'm curious to see when _food_ goes into the sharing economy 07:41 <@RangerZ> because we don't have a 'food' problem in the US 07:41 <@RangerZ> we have a 'distribution' problem, which is why 1 in 4 or 5 kids goes hungry at least once a week 07:41 <@RangerZ> or whatever the fucking pathetic stat ic 07:41 <@RangerZ> is* 07:42 <@RangerZ> but anyways, work 07:42 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:46 <@Evilpig> oh... damn.... http://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/watch.png 07:48 -!- crashcart [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydehopgqftmiveus] has joined #se2600 07:49 < dfused> uh....wow. 07:51 <@Dolemite> That's some Evilpig shit right there 07:53 < aestetix> not clicking 08:02 <@Evilpig> I laughed pretty hard at it 08:10 < Healix> ha thats great. 08:26 <@Evilpig> https://i.imgur.com/kIAnudU.jpg 08:36 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 08:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 08:38 < phy1729> well good morning 09:20 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 09:28 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 09:42 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I have word from a buddy of mine at Regal Corporate HQ... The approvals are still not complete for the H8ful Eight road show, so it may or may not happen. 09:48 <@Evilpig> for me it's not happening. that three hour drive to your neck of the woods just ugh 09:58 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:59 <@Dolemite> Well Pamela has said that you and NotLarry are welcome to the couches if you want to stay overnight 10:05 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08 < aestetix> https://theghostofwilliamshockley.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/dear-black-people-you-suck-at-coding/ 10:08 < PigBot> Title: Dear Black people, you suck at coding | The Ghost of William Shockley (at theghostofwilliamshockley.wordpress.com) 10:16 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:780:5959:719a:9dd4:cb94:79d9] has joined #se2600 10:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 10:26 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 10:35 * aestetix hugs klixa 10:38 <@klixa> hey aestetix 10:50 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 10:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 10:52 <@RangerZ> so.... 10:52 < dfused> ur mom. 10:52 <@Dolemite> A needle pulling thread 10:52 <@RangerZ> if anyone has a S.O. that is an Adele fan, and you need to dig yourself out of the doghouse... 10:53 <@RangerZ> She's coming to Nashville tickets are 272$-786$ a person 10:53 <@Dolemite> Shit on a shingle, cheap seats are $272!? 10:53 <@RangerZ> and none of those are even the _floor seats_ 10:53 <@RangerZ> no clue how much those went for 10:54 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Is that before or after the scalphers like stubhub got involved? 10:54 < _NSAKEY> *scalpers 10:54 <@RangerZ> that is from bridgestone's site themselves 10:54 < _NSAKEY> I pulled an all nighter and expect to be up the rest of the day, so the degraded typing should be lots of fun. 10:54 <@oddball> I think the term we're all looking for is "fuck you too, buddy!" 10:55 < aestetix> RangerZ: admit it, you are a fan 10:55 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: remember "sudo rm -rf /[ ]tmp/ make sure not to have the the space there.... 10:55 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Pretty much. 10:55 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I only run commands like that on ben's infrastructure, like the pi he used to update phreaknic.info every 15 minutes. 10:55 <@RangerZ> aestetix: nope, I was seeing how much they were to buy some tickets to give a friend, give her an excuse to come into town and visit....and stay at my place.... 10:56 < aestetix> RangerZ: you can just ask amber for sex, you don't need to make excuses 10:57 <@RangerZ> if she was only half as crazy as she is, she would have made the rounds through the local tech scene already 10:57 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: just as long as you don't try to visit the install page on the site. 10:57 <@RangerZ> we've proven that most everyone in here likes to stick it in crazy 10:57 <@RangerZ> or have crazy stuck in them (if that is their thing) 10:57 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I think ben is going to have PTSD for life because of that incident. 10:57 < aestetix> RangerZ: you mean Shadow 10:58 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Well, it doesn't help that there's no way we'll ever let him forget it. 10:58 <@RangerZ> best fucking git commit I saw on github for some _major_ project was ... 10:58 <@RangerZ> - rm -rf /[ ]tmp/temppassfile$randNum [ ] added for clarity 10:58 <@RangerZ> + rm -rf /tmp/temppassfile$randNum 10:59 <@RangerZ> or something like that 10:59 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I think it might actually be a problem going forward, because apparently nobody wants to or knows how to work on websites when raw, simple HTML is involved. 11:00 < _NSAKEY> Their idea of working on a website is posting things via wordpress. 11:00 <@oddball> true 11:00 < _NSAKEY> I would still like whatever rapid-deployment strain of Drupal got used for PN18, solely to drop on the CTF network at future PhreakNICs. 11:01 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-46-204.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01 <@oddball> heh 11:01 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn4e1gndIuU [Star Trek Beyond - Official Trailer] 11:02 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: Funniest part is... I've found the WP plugin that solves that issue, it makes HTML flat files for the entire site for you, so that you only publish static pages, but you can use WP on the backend 11:02 < aestetix> penis 11:02 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Maybe you should share that with ben. 11:02 <@RangerZ> also apparently tis the season for trailers 11:02 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I haven't tried it out yet 11:03 <@RangerZ> but yeah 11:03 < _NSAKEY> That would be a good way to save him some time, if you tried it out first. 11:03 < _NSAKEY> He hasn't even had time to try the out the custom kali image I rolled for him. 11:04 <@RangerZ> I was firstly working on the ability to create EPUB and PDF from Pages and Posts 11:04 < _NSAKEY> He told me that nobody could really use the Kali 2.0 ISO he was netbooting because of X-related nonsense. 11:04 < _NSAKEY> So I was like, "Why don't we just make our own ISOs?" 11:04 < _NSAKEY> ben's response was along the lines of "That sounds too hard," and "If you can make it, I'll use it." 11:04 < _NSAKEY> Turns out, it was a pretty easy process. 11:15 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 11:29 <@Dagmar> whaaaat 11:29 <@Dagmar> Yes it's easy 11:30 <@RangerZ> he seems to have less time than the busiest grad student 11:30 <@RangerZ> http://www.rogerebert.com/chazs-blog/siskel-and-ebert-defend-star-wars (old video, obviously) 11:30 < PigBot> Title: Siskel and Ebert Defend Star Wars | Chaz's Blog | Roger Ebert (at www.rogerebert.com) 11:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ; Putting something like that on the CTF network..._hilariouS_ 11:33 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I'm pretty sure he's just never done it before. 11:34 < _NSAKEY> He looked at the instructions, thought it looked too hard, and said he'd use any image I made. 11:34 < _NSAKEY> The whole point of it was to get IRC clients on the CTF network. 11:34 < _NSAKEY> I gave him .debs this year, but he just never downloaded them. 11:34 <@Dagmar> Setting up the bootstrap is fiddling and tedious, but once that's done modifying one is super easy 11:34 < _NSAKEY> ... So the idea for next year is to bake them into the image, then there's no way. 11:35 < _NSAKEY> There's a script that handles all the hard bits. 11:35 < _NSAKEY> It's seriously like, 4 or 5 commands. 11:36 < aestetix> I want to name debian package "eugene" 11:36 < aestetix> let's see if anyone besides RangerZ gets the joke 11:39 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 11:39 <@RangerZ> actually I don't get it 11:41 < aestetix> ok let me make it blunt 11:41 < aestetix> eugene.debs 11:42 < aestetix> does that help at all 11:43 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What would this hypothetical eugene.deb package do? 11:43 <@RangerZ> jesus obscure references 11:44 < aestetix> did you finally get it 11:45 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: probably set up Tor exit nodes 12:17 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: you should setup a private set of TOR nodes on the CTF 12:18 <@RangerZ> or if you want to REALLY screw with people, make them (public nodes) hehe 12:21 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: The CTF network was airgapped, so that would do no good. 12:21 < _NSAKEY> Not unless I wanted to roll my own private copy of tor, and have an anonymity network within the CTF. 12:21 < _NSAKEY> ... Now there's an idea. 12:29 <@RangerZ> I meant a private TOR network 12:29 <@RangerZ> with like 20 nodes 12:29 <@RangerZ> maybe 2 or 3 being 'physical' 12:30 <@RangerZ> aestetix: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/14/angela-merkel-multiculturalism-is-a-sham/ 12:30 < PigBot> Title: Multiculturalism is a sham, says Angela Merkel - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) 12:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I wasn't kidding earlier about the RSI ship specs making zero sense 12:32 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: let me go look 12:35 <@RangerZ> wow... 12:35 <@RangerZ> It got even less useful 12:35 <@RangerZ> it used to have this GIANT matrix that was like 30,000 pixel by 8000 12:35 <@RangerZ> so you just had to use the built in scroll bars 12:36 <@Dagmar> Yep 12:36 <@Dagmar> I'm going with "If you buy the Aurora, you can avoid the stigma of your ship being explicitly called a "starter" model." 12:36 <@RangerZ> aurora (is/was) the starter ship 12:37 <@Dagmar> Yes, but it's the other one that has "Starter" right in the image shown with all the other types 12:38 <@Mirage> lol.. this is a question on the HR Employee profile update page: "Does Honey Badger Care? Yes/No" 12:38 <@RangerZ> lol 12:38 <@Dagmar> Do they have a big problem with bots getting jobs there? 12:38 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: either way aurora is the best 'balance' small ship 12:40 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I would love to see the offshore people's reactions to that question, unless of course it's only on the US form. 12:45 <@RangerZ> Mirage: I'd be more curious if that question doesn't have some kind of religious or social undertones that we don't know about 12:45 <@RangerZ> "how dare they insult the sacred honey badger" etc 12:45 <@RangerZ> hehe 12:45 <@RangerZ> not likely... but would be very amusing 12:46 < dfused> its ok...honey badger dont care 12:47 < dfused> row row row your boat 12:47 <@RangerZ> ohh wow... I just thought up a great question for online job applicants 12:49 <@RangerZ> "Is the age of the earth less than 10,000 years old or is it billions of years? " 12:49 < dfused> lol 12:49 <@RangerZ> non-religious test to filter out people 12:50 <@RangerZ> man 12:50 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: I wouldn't want to get near that question with a 10' pole 12:50 <@RangerZ> I've worked a whole 4 hours on campus today 12:50 <@RangerZ> I should go home soon, been here too long 12:53 < dfused> you should....work sucks 12:54 <@Evilpig> I need to pee. I should go do that 12:55 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: why not? its legal to discriminate based on religion if your company's moral stance requires it 12:55 <@RangerZ> or something like that... if you listen to some GOP lawmakers 12:55 <@Evilpig> I try not to listen to politicians 12:56 <@RangerZ> but tomorrow night is the GOP debate in Vegas 12:56 <@RangerZ> they alone raised the levels of bullshit in the city by 4 degrees 12:59 <@RangerZ> also... Its going to be fun to see who attacks Trump, and how much 13:00 <@Dagmar> Why can't it be terrorists 13:01 <@RangerZ> nah 13:01 <@RangerZ> that would just make him a martyr 13:01 <@Dagmar> He could be a martyr to his cause! 13:01 <@RangerZ> Just tell right wing "news" that Trump owns 15% of Planned Parenthood 13:02 <@Mirage> Evilpig: the "7Days to Die" developers must have played WoW. After the update over the weekend they have added "Human Feces" as a item when you click on toilets. The tooltip says somethign to the effect of "Smells funny. Would probably be good to throw at zombies or players as a distraction." 13:02 <@RangerZ> let the "they aren't [Domestic Terrorists] because they are white and chrsitians" kill him 13:02 <@Evilpig> lol 13:04 <@Dagmar> Somehow I don't think zombies are going to be distracted by poop 13:06 <@RangerZ> depends if they use smell to track their targets 13:07 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-70-68.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 13:16 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:25 <@Evilpig> the latest episode of mike tyson mysteries is hilarious 13:29 <@Evilpig> "Operating with an untested backup plan is like cutting the heads off all your condoms. Sure in theory you've still used protection but it was completely pointless." 13:30 <@Mirage> Sure you didn't hear that from aestetix parents? 13:31 <@Evilpig> "Schroedinger's backup: data exists in an undetermined state until it is tested. " 13:45 < aestetix> wait 13:45 < aestetix> mike tyson mysteries? 13:47 < aestetix> is he playing sherlock holmes? 13:48 <@Dagmar> "holmethh" 13:54 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Caught this on HBO saturday. Once of those "so bad it's actually kinda good" movies. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1178640/ 13:54 < PigBot> Title: Beer for My Horses (2008) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 13:54 <@Mirage> Stars: 13:54 <@Evilpig> I think I might have seen that 13:54 <@Mirage> Toby Keith, Rodney Carrington, Claire Forlani, Dvid Allen Coe, Willie Nelson 13:54 <@Evilpig> it sounds familiar at the very least 13:55 <@Mirage> oh, and Ted Nugent 13:56 < aestetix> fucking 13:57 < aestetix> I just broke my enter key 13:57 < aestetix> agian 13:57 <@Mirage> aestetix: not well enough since you are still able to chat 13:57 < aestetix> do they design new laptops for mouse users or something? 13:57 < aestetix> lol 13:58 < aestetix> thinkpads are supposed to be more durable than this 13:59 <@Mirage> http://business.panasonic.com/toughbook/laptop-computers.html 13:59 < PigBot> Title: Panasonic Rugged Laptops - Official Panasonic Toughbook Rugged Computers (at business.panasonic.com) 14:00 <@Mirage> Evilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSoadS5Znc 14:03 <@Evilpig> Mirage: I raise you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UTg probably NSFW 14:03 <@Mirage> probably? 14:03 <@Evilpig> likely 14:03 <@Evilpig> it's miley 14:04 <@Mirage> dude..i just had lunch. 14:05 <@Evilpig> well... you've got room to eat again? 14:09 <@Mirage> posted before, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0 14:10 <@Evilpig> that oddly fit perfectly with the point i'm at in "Pan" 14:10 <@Evilpig> they're being chased by a giant "neverbird" 14:10 <@Mirage> lol 14:17 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to ask why Evilpig had Miley Cyrus content close-at-hand. 14:21 <@Evilpig> saw it earlier under the title of "wtf" 14:21 <@Evilpig> actually worse. http://www.thesuperficial.com/miley-cyrus-bb-talk-diaper-porn-baby-fetish-12-2015 14:21 <@Evilpig> "Miley Cyrus Made Diaper Porn Now " 14:29 <@Mirage> Evilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfgmBC1qgmU 14:33 < Healix> not another peanut butter jelly time, we don't need more of those lol 14:42 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 14:43 <@Mirage> Healix: chew on this then.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8 14:47 < Healix> literally laughin out loud. this is beautiful. The greenscreen quality 14:47 <@Mirage> one of the most wonderfully horrible music videos, imo 14:48 < Healix> somebody was like we'll pay you a shit ton of money for you to make music. and he asked where to sign. 14:48 <@RangerZ> Mirage: you realize that aestetix now has to listen to this one a month as a German immigrant 14:48 < Healix> the weiner dogs are the best 14:48 <@Mirage> Healix: it's like Primus "Mr Krinkle"...the more you watch it, the more random shit you see that you missed befoere 14:51 < Healix> and now im 'wtf'ing' to mr krinkles 14:52 <@Mirage> You'd never seen it? 14:52 < Healix> nope 15:02 < Healix> now im lost in youtube listening to primus songs. 15:03 <@Mirage> lol 15:04 <@Mirage> "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" was the first dual format (PC/Audio) CD I ever saw. Was kind of cool..but lame by today's standard. The PC app was basically just a "drive a boat" sim. 15:08 < Healix> would love to have been in the crowd for Jerry was a race car driver video 15:13 -!- sandcrawler [~sandcrawl@157.130.171.46] has joined #se2600 15:13 < sandcrawler> Anyone else doing the SANY Holiday hack challenge? 15:13 < sandcrawler> SANS* 15:15 <@RangerZ> nope doing the SONY Holiday hack challenge 15:15 < sandcrawler> bound to find something there 15:15 <@RangerZ> challenge the internet script kiddies to see if I can access the Sony network on a holiday 15:16 <@RangerZ> BREAKING NEWS From our Douche Bag of the Day Desk: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/bill-cosby-countersues-accusers-defamation-848513 [Bill Cosby Countersues Accusers For Defamation, Interference With NBC, Netflix Deals] 15:23 <@Mirage> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35091724 15:23 < PigBot> Title: Star Wars: How to avoid The Force Awakens - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) 15:25 <@RangerZ> #6 was a sham 15:25 <@RangerZ> should have recommend the Timothy Zhan trilogy of books to read ;) 15:28 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Fallout Shelter got a _very_ cutesy update 15:29 <@Evilpig> I see that 15:29 <@Evilpig> I just got the push notice. haven't opened it yet though 15:29 < sandcrawler> Eh, my dwellers are probably dead. 15:30 <@Dagmar> Well, if they're not apparently you can just tell them to get the hell out now 15:30 <@Dagmar> ...instead of having to rely on Wasteland "accidents" 15:30 < sandcrawler> I do that the all the new arrivals anyway... go forth and explore (without any gear) 15:32 <@Dagmar> OH MY GOD 15:32 <@Dagmar> A BUTTON TO JUST SELL THE FUCKING COMMON ITEMS ALL AT ONCE 15:33 <@Evilpig> https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/commit/bc253e5 15:33 < PigBot> Title: Fixing cabinet editor · samilliken/openDCIM@bc253e5 · GitHub (at github.com) 15:36 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: where is the one button to sell? 15:36 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldK1gQSSTSo 15:37 <@Evilpig> nm I see it now 15:45 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Piano Guys at the Ryman on March 15 15:45 <@Mirage> Gonna be here on March 19. Need to talk the wife into going. 15:46 <@RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/you-may-soon-need-a-licence-to-take-photos-of-that-classic-designer-chair-you-bought/ 15:46 < PigBot> Title: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 15:47 <@RangerZ> extending copyright from 25 year to 75 years after creator's death... for things like furniture... 15:47 <@RangerZ> 70* years 15:49 <@RangerZ> first of all... "copyright" on furniture .... 15:54 < aestetix> RangerZ: you mean the SANS holiday hack 16:00 <@RangerZ> aestetix: no I was very careful about my typing 16:00 <@RangerZ> asshats (lizard squad) likes to ddos sony on holidays 16:01 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS6E6_AAr5w&feature=youtu.be&t=315 PC POLICE BANNING AND CENSORING HISTORY! [Huck Finn] 16:16 < aestetix> lol --- Log closed Mon Dec 14 16:24:28 2015 --- Log opened Mon Dec 14 16:24:38 2015 16:24 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 16:24 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 44 nicks [17 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 16:24 -!- PigBot [~pigbot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 16:24 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 10 secs 16:24 < aestetix> I gotta say 16:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 16:25 < aestetix> the Bill Cosby drama is a direct result of teh SJW bullshit 16:25 < aestetix> I have no idea if he did anything. I won't know until we have facts 16:26 < trickshotjohnny> aestetix: the court of public is not hindered by mere trivialities such as facts and evidence. 16:26 < trickshotjohnny> *court of public opinion 16:32 <@RangerZ> aestetix: bullshit 16:32 < aestetix> One thing that is astonishing is how bad the coverage is 16:33 <@RangerZ> one, two, three.... sure those can be BS... but that many women saying he did it is pretty fucking clear 16:33 -!- sandcrawler [~sandcrawl@157.130.171.46] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: if they have evidence to back up their claims, I absolutely agree 16:34 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you can't "prove" sexual assualt most times unless there is a rape kit done immediately afterwards 16:34 < aestetix> Did any of them file a police report, for example? 16:34 < trickshotjohnny> preponderous of circumstantial evidence does not magically turn into physical evidence 16:34 <@RangerZ> yes 16:34 <@RangerZ> a few of the recent ones 16:34 < aestetix> oh 16:34 <@RangerZ> but none in the 70s 16:34 < aestetix> ok 16:34 <@RangerZ> or 80s 16:34 <@RangerZ> or 90s 16:34 < aestetix> I'm just saying, we have a court of law for a reason 16:35 <@RangerZ> and you gotta remember the old joke about Michael Jackson and him dangling the baby out the window.... If it was "thriller MJ" then he could have DROP KICKED a baby and no one would have cared 16:35 <@RangerZ> "court of law" is also a joke when it comes to prosecuting people in power 16:35 < aestetix> ih the US 16:35 <@RangerZ> and thats where he is 16:36 <@RangerZ> how many bankers that destroyed the world economy (outside of iceland) went to jail? 16:36 < aestetix> well 16:36 <@RangerZ> just like "thriller MJ" "bill cosby" was a "figure" in american politics/tv/movies 16:36 < aestetix> I want to see what he says 16:36 < aestetix> I mean hans reiser also got a chance to testify :p 16:37 <@RangerZ> sadly but any woman raped by him, it probably DID help their career, as long as he didn't hurt their career (back then, with the power he had) 16:38 <@RangerZ> Cosby had enough power to write a character out of his show because he grew out his hair too much (the best friend of the son) 16:38 <@RangerZ> his hair was too "afro-y" 16:38 < aestetix> huh 16:38 <@RangerZ> Cosby didn't _personally_ like the kid's hair 16:38 <@RangerZ> so he had him fired 16:38 <@RangerZ> and the scripts changed 16:43 <@RangerZ> but aestetix you gotta remember the power dynamics at play back then esp. in 70s and 80s 16:43 <@RangerZ> same reason there is no statute of limitations of child sexual assault, the victims are so powerless at the time, that others tell them to be quiet, etc. 16:44 <@RangerZ> unfortunately the same dynamic doesn't exist in adult sexual assault, despite the power dynamics being similar 16:45 <@RangerZ> You can't be asinine about ignoring that aspect of it from the womens' perspective at the time 16:46 <@RangerZ> I agree that without more 'proof' than decades old allegations, that it shouldn't be criminally convictable 16:46 <@RangerZ> which they didn't b/c of statute of limitations 16:50 < aestetix> RangerZ: given how hysterical SJWs have been lately... 16:51 <@RangerZ> aestetix: SJW are one thing 16:51 <@RangerZ> 30 women saying that a guy raped them is another 16:52 <@RangerZ> the bounds of common sense dictate that it isn't a conspiracy on as grand a scale as what FOX and the GOP think the climate scientiests are in about global warming 16:54 <@RangerZ> can't let crappy SJW (or any other group for that matter) ruin otherwise valid points 16:54 <@RangerZ> Sarkesian(sp)'s crap videos are a good example of that 16:55 <@RangerZ> the -points- she is trying to make are often not -wrong- but she purposely misuses and construes bad examples so as to stir up controversy 17:15 < aestetix> god I hate databases 17:16 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Would you happen to have some kind of referral code for already having Star Citizen? 17:20 <@RangerZ> honestly don't know 17:20 <@RangerZ> i think so 17:22 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: yes apparently so 17:22 <@Dagmar> Ah... they do have a referral program thingie 17:22 <@RangerZ> STAR-YQC5-GL3Y 17:23 <@RangerZ> EVERYONE can feel free to sign up with that ;) 17:23 <@RangerZ> lol 17:23 <@Dagmar> Danke, sehr 17:23 <@RangerZ> actually its not bad, you'll get 5000 "credits' too 17:24 <@RangerZ> (used to buy in game guns/etc) 17:24 <@Dagmar> No space hookers? 17:24 <@Dagmar> damn 17:26 < aestetix> fucking enter key 17:27 < aestetix> Dagmar: is that the game that raised like 100 million? 17:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah 17:33 <@Dagmar> Seems I even got in early enough to get my damn name. 17:35 <@RangerZ> surprisingly a LOT of the base players are from EU 17:35 <@RangerZ> so they use non-ascii names 17:36 <@Dagmar> They use a terminal window and ANSI graphics for the bootstrap? Heh 17:37 <@Dagmar> Looks like I got in just in time for the brunt of the bugs in 2.0 17:39 <@Dagmar> I guess they don't Torrent their installs. Oh well 17:39 <@RangerZ> they do 17:39 <@RangerZ> the 'patcher' itself isn't but the 'install' should be 17:39 <@Dagmar> I'm watching this thing hover so close to 1Mb/s I'm fairly suspicious it's Comcast throttling 17:39 <@RangerZ> there should be a config button on top right or so 17:39 <@RangerZ> check that 17:40 <@Dagmar> It doesn't tell me what port they use for inbound tho 17:41 <@RangerZ> TCP 8000 - 8020 17:41 <@RangerZ> UDP 64090 - 64110 17:42 <@RangerZ> https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/285959/internet-ports-being-used-by-star-citizen 17:42 < PigBot> Title: Internet Ports being used by Star Citizen - RSI Community Forums (at forums.robertsspaceindustries.com) 17:47 <@Dagmar> That's for the game, yo 17:52 <@Dagmar> ...and its' stopped downloading. 17:54 <@Dagmar> 1450137242.209 47692 10.3.1.2 TCP_MISS_ABORTED/200 4596 GET http://1.webseed.robertsspaceindustries.com/GameBuilds/sc-alpha-2.0.0/305217/StarCitizen/Data/Objects-part3.pak? - ORIGINAL_DST/54.230.205.225 application/x-bittorrent 17:57 <@Dagmar> Interesting. I wonder if Cloudfront has some bullshit stuff going on that's doing somehwat nosy checks 17:57 <@Dagmar> My squid proxy just doesn't _mention_ that it's proxying traffic 17:58 <@Dagmar> After stopping and restarting the launcher, it was doing a whole bunch of trying to get torrent files but not getting them 17:58 <@Dagmar> At least now it's verifiably torrenting the thing at >3M/s 17:59 <@Dagmar> Maybe the first attempt with the launcher is straight http only 18:02 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-70-68.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:18 -!- fie [~fie@ip70-178-36-216.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:59 <@Dagmar> ...and the damn download drops to bullshit speeds again and stop 19:00 <@Dagmar> I'm about to pillage the torrent files out of it 19:03 <@Dagmar> Cloudfront are definitely being bitches about hte lack of an origin in the Http headers 19:07 -!- fie [~fie@ip70-178-36-216.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 19:15 <@Evilpig> I need a housekeeper 19:17 <@RangerZ> ++ 19:18 <@Dagmar> I have kitty who doubles as a dust mop and dust mouse catcher 19:23 <@Evilpig> I have two of those that just generate fur-ble weeds 19:24 <@RangerZ> Nuka Cola Returning to Target Friday 19:25 <@Dagmar> Reeealy 19:25 <@RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMr328e1JR8 I haven't watched it 19:25 <@RangerZ> nor care 19:29 <@Dagmar> Well, since we're PC Master Race, we can't get it apparently 19:30 <@Evilpig> season pass? 19:30 <@Dagmar> Maybe they'll be nicer this time around and let us buy it outright 19:30 <@Evilpig> also... I got it for the ps4. lol 19:30 <@Evilpig> granted I got it free with the ps4 19:34 <@Dagmar> I have to say I'm a little disappointed they used the wrong bottle 19:34 <@Dagmar> I could more easily and more accurately print labels for regular Nuka Cola or Nuka Cola Cherry 20:06 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 20:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-116-118.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 21:05 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 21:07 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Issues with Cloudfront hating on my squid aside, I can appreciate the way this downloader wokrs 21:08 <@RangerZ> yeah, its not bad 21:08 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: They made the respectable decision to use AWS for the "webseed" parts, so the minimum speed one might get would be a decent HTTP mirror 21:09 <@Dagmar> It _does_ however, drive squid insane 21:09 <@RangerZ> well... I'm sure that isn't in their integration tests 21:09 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling if I look more closely it'll turn out to be a whole bunch of range-requests over http 21:10 <@Dagmar> For the number of connections being made, squid shouldn't be thrashing 21:10 <@RangerZ> I actually had discussions with the guy who designed the entire system (he's left the company and is now working on Descent Underground) 21:12 <@Dagmar> Now that I'm thinking about it, there's no real reason why the thing _shoudln't_ be making range requests to those files over http 21:12 <@Dagmar> interesting 21:12 <@RangerZ> yeah, not sure 21:13 <@RangerZ> 'something odd' going on 21:13 <@Dagmar> Well, it would make it easier to integrate into a Torrent download 21:13 <@RangerZ> did your squid decide to play Splatoon? and got shot? 21:13 <@RangerZ> hehe 21:14 <@Dagmar> Since torrent clients grab _blocks_ of data based on rarest-first, if you considered the HTTP mirrors always available as one source... when it comes time to request blocks it would be easier to use a partial range-request get 21:14 <@Dagmar> ...which would explain why it's driving squid batty 21:15 <@Dagmar> I guess I've got at least an hour and 40 minutes to mess with it. :) 22:18 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsYfPDsBteQ haha... [No, Solar Panels Don't Suck Up All The Sun's Sun Juice] About that story about the solar panels killing plants... and 'maybe causing cancer'.... and 'sucking up the all the sun in the town...' etc. 22:24 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6Bujaf3AU 22:25 <@RangerZ> I "LOL"ed at this 22:25 <@RangerZ> and actually snorted a few times.... 22:25 <@RangerZ> [Catholic Priest Allegedly Stole Millions To Fund "Toilet Slave" Fetish] 22:25 <@RangerZ> funniest part isn't even in the title 22:25 <@RangerZ> it gets _better_ than that 22:40 <@Dagmar> Soo... with SC there's insurance, and the possibility of accumulating fines until you're basically flat broke 22:40 <@Dagmar> WTF do players do then? Beg? 22:44 <@RangerZ> be hired on a crwe 22:44 <@RangerZ> crew* 22:45 <@RangerZ> or as "a marine" 22:45 <@RangerZ> or as a "Catholic Priest" if you are REALLY desperate for funds ;) 23:42 <@Dagmar> Well, that was very unforgiving 23:54 <@Dagmar> Went into hangar... walked up to ship... "USE" appears. 23:54 <@Dagmar> well... spacebar jumps 23:54 <@Dagmar> Heh --- Log closed Tue Dec 15 00:00:39 2015