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02:39 < aestetix> penis
05:38 < aestetix> did any of you go to TomorrowWorld?
05:38 < aestetix> it was apparently in Atlanta
06:46 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:55 <@brimstone> aestetix: TomorrowWorld is "in Atlanta" like Chattanooga is "in Atlanta"
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07:03 < aestetix> brimstone: it looks like a wannabe burning man
07:04 <@Dolemite> except not so far out in the wilderness
07:04 <@Dolemite> I view it more like an electronica-focused Bonnaroo
07:04 <@brimstone> and far fewer vehicles actually on fire
07:05 < aestetix> It also looks really expensive.
07:05 < aestetix> I was watching some videos of it
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08:02 < aestetix> rattle: I just watched Hillary's speech at CFR. I was unimpressed.\
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08:32 < phy1729> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1511.2/02062.html
08:38 <@brimstone> I am not a "crypto expert", I haven't mathematical background to prove that's "secure", as the "authorities" do!
08:39 <@brimstone> i'm not sure if this is a troll or not
08:40 < phy1729> oh he's serious; he has a github repo for it now
08:41 <@brimstone> 16 stars
08:42 < aestetix> brimstone: by the title I can say it's bullshit
08:42 < aestetix> but lemme read
08:44 < aestetix> a cursory glance looks like he has "invented" a key generation algorithm
08:46 < phy1729> yeah he doesn't get that just because he's changing what the "key" is in memory doesn't mean the key is changing
08:46 < aestetix> Right. The seed stays the same.
08:47 < aestetix> By his logic, the RSA dongles also use a dynamic key algorithm
08:47 < aestetix> Speaking of "jumps" I wonder if he has ever heard of s-boxes
08:48 < aestetix> Also, he keeps citing DES, which was publicly broken in 1997. Unless he includes 3DES, which is also advised against... in part because it's slow as shit.
08:51 < aestetix> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1511.2/03004.html
08:51 < aestetix> lolol
08:51 < aestetix> "safe against index of coincidence"
08:52 < aestetix> So it's safe against crypanalysis from before 1900
08:54 < aestetix> It's like this guy read a copy of The Code Book and decided to write a cipher.
10:40 <@Evilpig> damn you IE.  you're hte bane of my existence!
10:41 < Healix> i agree evilpig, but i do beleive edge is even worse
10:49 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Who did the packing for your move?  You or the movers?
10:50 <@Evilpig> me
10:50 <@Evilpig> I had packing below the glasses, one layer of glasses, more padding, repeat like lasagna
10:50 < Healix> I never did hear the end of the parking fiasco. Did they carry your stuff a block?
10:50 <@Evilpig> yes they did
10:51 < Healix> haha that sucks
10:51 <@Evilpig> what kills me is that I would take a glass out, start to unwrap it then it would fall into a million fucking pieces
10:51 <@Dolemite> The glasses looked like they were packed correctly, but one of the picture you posted where the corner was bent in and the top was bent down...  looked like you didn't have enough packing material in it
10:51 <@Evilpig> I'm pretty sure they just put all the fragile shit under a pile of other shit
10:52 <@Evilpig> all my boxes, which were new, now look like they've been moved several times and are all beat to shit
10:52 <@Dolemite> When I was in college I used to do some packing jobs with Armstrong United Van Lines.  I was taught to pack by some of the "lifers" in the business.
10:52 <@Dolemite> Likely they didn't bother to put the heavy boxes on the bottom and fragile boxes on top.
10:53 <@Evilpig> the state of my shit would support that hypothesis
10:53 <@Evilpig> and really I ddn't care about the glasses that much.... losing my PN6 glass pissed me off
10:54 <@Evilpig> the pig one was just pure astonishment to me too
10:54 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/zWzR11yuCWpoyriy8
10:55 <@Dolemite> That one I would have wrapped in bubble wrap and then padded with crumpled up paper.
10:55 <@Dolemite> But again, if they put 200 lbs. of other boxes on top of it...
10:56 <@Evilpig> it hand molded styrofoam!!!!
10:56  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
10:57 <@Dolemite> around all sides?  From the picture it just looked like top and bottom
10:58 <@Evilpig> top and bottom only.  it had air on the sides
10:58 <@Evilpig> it had a little on the sides but not full
10:58 <@Evilpig> it definitely wasn't sitting against the side of the box
10:58 <@Dolemite> So is that a gravy boat?
10:58 <@Evilpig> it was
10:58 <@Dolemite> s/is/was
10:58 < Healix> do you get any money bag for them breaking stuff? i mean i know its not replacement but something?
10:58 <@Dolemite> gravy came out of the snout?
10:59 < Healix> thats awesome, now im annoyed for you
10:59 <@Evilpig> Healix: I don't know.  gonna fight with them on monday
10:59 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: yes
10:59 <@Dolemite> FUCK THEM
10:59 <@Evilpig> it looked like it was puking gravy
11:00 <@oddball> Evilpig: suuuuck
11:21 <@crash180> Now you will have the gravy bowl
11:24 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: You need this -> http://www.trocadero.com/stores/hda/items/1024755/Musterschutz-Pig-Stein
11:26 <@Evilpig> as long as you're buying
11:26 <@crash180> For $800 you better have a pig delivering the gravy to the table
11:28 <@Evilpig> I intend on this being me at some point this weekend.  http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/
11:45 < aestetix> Dolemite: if I come to PhreakNIC 20, will you dance with me?
11:46 <@oddball> seems accurate
11:50 < NoFault> morning all
11:51 < aestetix> Dolemite: I'll even practice polka dancing if you want
11:55 < aestetix> good fucking god
11:55 < aestetix> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/us-usa-race-princeton-idUSKCN0T91BM20151120
11:59 < aestetix> and http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/20/9766896/woodrow-wilson-racist
11:59 < aestetix> This is fucking Princeton?
12:02 <@Evilpig> tool/primus tickets just went on sale "
12:02 <@Evilpig> Sorry, no tickets from venue currently...
12:02 <@Evilpig> Tons of fans are shopping and some may have let their tickets go. You can try again or change quantity or ticket type.
12:02 <@Evilpig> "
12:10 <@rattle> I've seen Les and crew preform roughly four times.  I saw Tool do one of their first shows once then went on tour on the Lolla second stage.  I envy anyone who can snag that..  It would be good times.
12:17 < aestetix> wow that reuters article
12:17 < aestetix> It raises two questions for me
12:17 < aestetix> 1. Why are students so fucking stupid? 2. Why are the schools actually entertaining their idiocy?
12:17 < aestetix> Have entrance standards just dropped that much?
12:26 <@Dolemite> Entrance standards have dropped over the past 20 years because of the corporate push to convince everybody that they should go to college.
12:26 <@Dolemite> News Flash:  College isn't for everybody
12:28 < aestetix> agreed
12:37 <@oddball> aestetix: Because the system has taught them that this behavior is acceptable since they were born.
12:38 <@oddball> Have you seen the video of the student that picked up a desk and threatened to beat a teacher with it?
12:38 <@oddball> He was stopped by another student as the teacher asked him to sit down.
12:39 <@oddball> Here's the scary part: if the teacher had reacted in any way to defend her fucking life, she would have definitely been fired, probably been sued, and possibly gone to jail.
12:46 <@rattle> Across the board, that's all bullshit..  And I think we could agree on that.
12:47 <@rattle> I am behind the idea of sixteen years of public education by default, and agressive early intervention resources being available to parents with children showing developmental delays.
12:48 <@Dolemite> Evilpig:  I'm hearing that a rather stupid email just got sent out to all of EAI
12:50 <@oddball> I know a few folks that were teachers, really loved actually *teaching*, but had to get out because of all the bullshit teachers have to deal with these days.
12:50 <@rattle> My mother is one of those people.
12:50 <@oddball> And if a teacher at a public school hasn't been physically attacked, they know at least one coworker that has.
12:51 <@rattle> Not so much my mother's issue..  She taught 1st graders, but please, rant.
12:53 <@oddball> heh... yeah.  1st graders are still in the "little ankle biters" phase.
12:53 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: let me look. but I wouldn't doubt it
12:53 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Do you know John Williams?
12:54 <@Evilpig> no and I have no email that was sent out to everyone
12:54 <@Dolemite> Ah, he's a DBA there
12:54 <@Evilpig> outlook could have redacted one if I hadn't opened it, iirc
12:54 <@Dolemite> He made reference to poorly chosen words from management going out to 100s of IT workers
12:54 <@oddball> oops
12:56 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  just asked my office mate and he doesn't see anything either
12:56 <@Evilpig> you have a more inside track than we do
12:56 <@Dolemite> it's called Facebook
12:59 <@Evilpig> got nothing but i'm curious
13:03 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Was the PN6 glass the one that had the hacker inside logo?
13:03 < _NSAKEY> Elonka had one of those up until a few months ago, then dropped it and broke it.
13:03 <@Dolemite> Yes, that was the glass from the first year I ran PN
13:04 < _NSAKEY> We talked about maybe bringing those back for this year, but ultimately did not.
13:04 <@Dolemite> We sold all the extra glasses, too
13:04 < _NSAKEY> The "water" bottles were commonly asked about. Those were all finally given out.
13:05 < _NSAKEY> They would have been helpful too, in deflecting the nominally christian group of band mothers who kept complaining about us on Saturday night.
13:05 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: they sold all the extra glasses from a few years ago too
13:05 <@Evilpig> dink bought them all to destory
13:05 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Why would anyone do that?
13:05 <@Dolemite> yeah, that pissed me off
13:05 <@Dolemite> It was an old logo
13:05 <@Dolemite> for his company
13:05 <@Evilpig> because he changed logos
13:05 <@oddball> There was discussion of maybe starting to actually sell merch besides t-shirts.  I think glasses and water bottles would be high on the list.
13:06 <@Dolemite> One of the many reasons why I had pushed back on ever having sponsors
13:06 <@Evilpig> selling merch for what reason?  the stuff we gave out was just for shits and giggles when we had money
13:06 < _NSAKEY> Did he at least make a glorious public display of destroying them?
13:06 <@Evilpig> doubtful
13:06 <@Dolemite> _NSAKEY: of course not
13:06 <@oddball> What Dink did pissed me off because I really like that year's art work.
13:06 <@Evilpig> same
13:06 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that was the mayan calendar/disk drive, right?
13:06 <@Evilpig> I have two of them
13:06 <@Evilpig> yeah
13:06 <@rattle> Which year was that?
13:07 <@Evilpig> I still have the art we could reprint them without his logo if we wanted
13:07 <@Dolemite> 2011?
13:07 <@rattle> (Art link?)
13:07 <@Evilpig> 2012 or 2011
13:07 < _NSAKEY> Some of the mayan shirts are still in storage. I bought one of each and showed them to my father.
13:07 <@oddball> Evilpig: Just an idea for the future.  Possibly to bring in more cash.  The merch that would be made to sell would probably be generic so it could be sold year to year.
13:07 < aestetix> holy shit
13:07 < aestetix> south park is amazing
13:07 < _NSAKEY> He liked the artwork so much that his response was "Those are too nice to wear. You need to put them up."
13:07 <@oddball> heh
13:08 <@Evilpig> oddball: I really hate that idea
13:08 <@oddball> oh?  Any reason?
13:08 <@Dolemite> Merch is a double edged sword
13:08 <@oddball> true
13:08 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: You're now in the area again, so you can voice your objections now at least.
13:08 <@Evilpig> it's geared primarily toward making money for what goal?
13:08 <@Dolemite> It can bring in more money, but the leftovers present a logistics issue
13:09 <@Evilpig> if you say running the con, you can throat punch yourself
13:09 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure that it was a "we could do this a couple years down the road" idea.
13:09 <@Dolemite> If you don't have an Elonka's Garage to store them in, it can cost you more to keep up with that stuff (like the storage unit)
13:09 <@Dolemite> But any way to separate PN from having to obtain sponsors would be a benefit
13:09 <@Evilpig> it shouldn't need sponsors anyway
13:09 < _NSAKEY> A lot of stuff was given away this year, and I heard there are only a few boxes now.
13:10 < _NSAKEY> For example, I got the very last hacker inside umbrella.
13:10 <@oddball> I think everyone was highly amused by Naienko's reaction to me telling her that I was asked if I wanted to run for one of the available board member slots.
13:10 <@Evilpig> sponsors were strictly for extra shit
13:10 <@oddball> "I'll hurt them."
13:10 < _NSAKEY> There were also some posters from I think PhreakNIC 10.
13:10 < _NSAKEY> I ended up with all of those.
13:11 <@Evilpig> and the mayan thing was 2012. I just looked it up
13:11 <@oddball> Evilpig: If it makes you feel better, PN made enough this year to not need sponsors and pay off the one "sponsor" we had.
13:11 <@Evilpig> I heard
13:11 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: no you didn't. :p
13:11 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Oh, you got one or two of them, didn't you?
13:11 < _NSAKEY> I have the rest.
13:12 <@Evilpig> http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn16/images/pn16-shirt-black.jpg
13:12 < _NSAKEY> Was that on the set of glasses that got destroyed?
13:12 <@Evilpig> there is a different, inverted, version of that for the glasses
13:12 <@Evilpig> yup
13:13 < _NSAKEY> There's also an inverted version of that shirt design.
13:13 < _NSAKEY> There was a black on white and a white on black version.
13:13 < _NSAKEY> See, that's just terrible.
13:13 <@Evilpig> I'm well aware of the variants. :P
13:13 <@rattle> The Mayan thing was some of the best PN art since the Jackson/Alexander works from the early years..  Sort of amusing to hear there was drama over it, given the tagline was "We can recover this."
13:13 <@Evilpig> http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn16/images/pn16-poster.pdf
13:13 <@Evilpig> this was the other one
13:13 <@Dolemite> We should restore more glasses from backup
13:13 <@Evilpig> both were commissioned
13:13 <@Dolemite> sans logo
13:13 < _NSAKEY> rattle: I think the drama was over a sponsor logo changing, not the art itself.
13:14 <@oddball> rattle: Oh, the drama wasn't over that art.  It was Codex's logo on the back.
13:14 < _NSAKEY> Heh, I haven't seen this poster before.
13:14 <@Evilpig> yes
13:14 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: that was also used for the badges
13:14 <@Evilpig> I did custom badges that year too
13:14 < _NSAKEY> Which one, the poster or the shirt art?
13:14 <@oddball> Everyone I talked to fucking loved the art.  Which is funny, since the artist literally threw it together over night.
13:15 <@Evilpig> she did.  but she nailed it
13:15 <@oddball> She's also a fantastic artist.
13:16 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/alyfzhgw8cnpsgz/glasses-black-print.png?dl=0
13:16 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: ^
13:16 <@Evilpig> from the originals sent to the printer
13:16 < _NSAKEY> So let me make sure I'm not somehow missing something.
13:16 < _NSAKEY> Andrew did a logo change some time after that design was done but before PhreakNIC...
13:17 <@Dolemite> No, no, he did a logo change AFTER PhreakNIC
13:17 < _NSAKEY> ... Then bought all the glasses off you guys for the express purpose of destroying them, because
13:17 < _NSAKEY> Ok, nevermind.
13:17 < _NSAKEY> Wow.
13:17 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8b2lbsh71le0dc/shirt-black-print-on-white.jpg?dl=0
13:17 <@Evilpig> yeah it was straight up douchey
13:17 <@Dolemite> He didn't buy all of the glasses until 6-9 months later
13:18 <@Dolemite> When we heard what he was doing several of us tried to buy some and save them first, but it was already a done deal
13:18 <@oddball> Still...
13:19 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: did you see any of the thumbdrives from PN16?
13:19 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds83h12y5i4vr04/PN16-USB-Drive.jpg?dl=0
13:19 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I'm pretty sure those are all gone.
13:19 < _NSAKEY> The stores of past stuff are heavily depleted.
13:19 < _NSAKEY> Corydon made this shirt display rack out of PVC, and the sale of old shirts saw an uptick.
13:19 <@Dolemite> Those the thumbdrives that had naked pics of NotLarry on them?
13:19 <@Dolemite> Brought a whole new meaning to the term "Trojan Infected"
13:22 <@oddball> Evilpig: The credit card ones?
13:22 <@Evilpig> yeah
13:23 <@Evilpig> I really should delete some of this old shit
13:23 <@Evilpig> I have the badge layouts from 15,16,17
13:23 <@oddball> I have mine in my pocket.  I need to figure out if I can repair the little tab on one side that holds the actual thumbdrive in.
13:23 < aestetix> Evilpig: do you have my vagina?
13:23 < _NSAKEY> s/delete/upload/
13:23 <@Evilpig> yes
13:24 < aestetix> did you touch it?
13:24 <@oddball> Evilpig: We might actually be interested in that.  It could be cool to use as many of those images as possible as a montage for the artwork for 20.
13:25 <@Evilpig> looking for aestetix's
13:25 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sem8ialln4vfxoe/PN16%20-%20Badges%2010%20Up%20-%20Brother%20HL-3070CW%20-%20Print%20Layout.pdf?dl=0
13:26 <@Evilpig> here should be aestetix's  https://www.dropbox.com/s/effhez1ed46bn33/PN16%20-%20Badges%2010%20Up%20-%20Brother%20HL-3070CW%20-%20Print%20Layout%20-%202.pdf?dl=0
13:28 <@Evilpig> never before seen PN15 Badge proof.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/d7rgzoyyre0j1ac/elonka.png?dl=0
13:28 < aestetix> lol
13:28 <@oddball> heh
13:28 <@Evilpig> and dolemite just for good measure.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/s61pg73wb3055wm/dolemite.png?dl=0
13:29 <@Dolemite> Monocles are the bee's knees.
13:29 <@Evilpig> the photoshopping all teh images was just too much work in the end
13:29 <@Evilpig> that shit nearly killed me
13:30 <@oddball> yeah
13:31 <@Evilpig> it was worth it, they turned out amazing.  but damn
13:31 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlwimcyvddprsbe/Screen%20Shot%202015-11-20%20at%201.30.29%20PM.png?dl=0
13:32 < aestetix> you should let me design the PN20 badge
13:32 <@Evilpig> we tried that once.
13:32 < aestetix> what?
13:32 <@Evilpig> you just wanted me to print dicks
13:32 < aestetix> wait when was this
13:33 <@Evilpig> fix this shit!  http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B004F70E3B27BA8
13:34 <@crash180> My friend said she couldn't get tickets either. She had them and then lost them when trying to check out
13:35 <@Evilpig> I never had them
13:35 <@Evilpig> surely they didn't sell out.
13:35 < _NSAKEY> They probably did.
13:35 <@NotLarry> You misspelled shirley again
13:35 <@Evilpig> if they did, they sold out in less than 30 seconds
13:36 < aestetix> hey I  figured out how to get laid
13:36 < _NSAKEY> Tool hasn't been anywhere close to Nashville since Bonaroo, and only in town itself like 3 times before that.
13:36 < aestetix> make a condom that looks like a syrian refugee
13:36 < aestetix> any activist girl will be like "oh we must let that refugee in"
13:36 <@Evilpig> maybe they did.  fuck
13:36 <@Evilpig> http://www.stubhub.com/tool-tickets-tool-nashville-bridgestone-arena-1-23-2016/event/9454840/
13:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Did you get a grown-up to walk you to the red light district?
13:36 <@Evilpig> 609 tickets available
13:36 <@Dolemite> Ok, I'm out.  Later, kids.
13:36 < aestetix> Dolemite: wait, what about my dance?
13:37 <@NotLarry> aestetix: you understand you are the only one those girls are not ******* right?
13:37 <@NotLarry> oh damn, forgot to turn off my profanity filter before I started the game.
13:37 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Yeah, I might have gotten a ticket at the ticketbastard price... But StubHub and other scalpers need to be given to Dagmar's scorpion pit.
13:38 <@Evilpig> I loathe stubhub but I just listed my ticket for the trailer park boys on there since I won't be in NY to use it. :-/
13:38 < aestetix> and given that many refugees wear headscarves and have beards, making a custom condom would not be that hard
13:38 <@NotLarry> _NSAKEY: you know "Dagmar's scorpion pit" is just what we call it right?  It is really just full of kittens
13:38 <@rattle> TO THE PIT!!
13:38 < _NSAKEY> NotLarry: As long as they're murderous kittens, it's all good.
13:39 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Why are you still typing?
13:39 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I will not be censored.
13:40 <@rattle> I'm allergic to cats..  So, it's really all the same for me.  But cuddling with kittens before I asphyxiate sounds sorta alright.  Praise Lord Dagmar.
13:40 < aestetix> Actually someone should make Donald Trump condoms
13:40 <@Evilpig> beginning to think ALL the tickets went to scalpers
13:40 <@Evilpig> http://www.bigstub.com/tool-and-primus-tickets.aspx?event_id=2718836
13:40 <@crash180> No one would ever use those
13:41 < aestetix> the donald trump condoms would have a little fuzz tickler thing on the end
13:41 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: It's not about censorship. It's about you acting like you got dropped on your head as a baby.
13:41 < aestetix> representing his toupee
13:41 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I've had a kitten decide to climb my leg... while I was wearing shorts.
13:41 <@oddball> That hurt... but the kitten made it.
13:42 <@Evilpig> and... another.  http://www.encoreticketstore.com/2718836/Tool-and-Primus
13:42 < _NSAKEY> That sounds like a suitably slow death for the kind of people who would start a business like StubHub.
13:43 <@oddball> Kittens had damn sharp tiny little needle-like claws.
13:55 <@Evilpig> neds more phreaknic the lunchbag.  http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn15/swag.html
14:05  * oddball starts sketches for "Phreaknic: the Flamethrower."
14:05 <@oddball> Hey, we handed out screwdrivers and knives this year, and the hotel is still standing!
14:05 < _NSAKEY> I've got one of those little lunchbags, and two of the "water" bottles.
14:05 < _NSAKEY> Also, nobody died.
14:10 <@Evilpig> I've had fun with photoshop over the years for PN, for sure
14:10 <@Evilpig> alright.  i'm heading home to finish today out
14:10 <@Evilpig> gotta do some patching at 5 and i'd rather be home for that
14:10 <@Evilpig> later
14:15 < Healix>  /away
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14:36 < Healix> i just showed someone the technoviking for the first time
14:37 < Healix> made my day
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16:59 <@NotLarry> *sigh*
16:59 <@NotLarry> I had 3 ethernet cards, I put one in, Win can't find the driver.  I may have had a 33% chance.
17:10 <@Dagmar> lol windows
17:39 <@Evilpig> command option i with iterm really is the cat's ass for doing the same thing on multiple ssh sessions
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17:55 < RangerZ1> sent out reply to mailing list + proposed edit to bylaws for nashville2600 (for those who care)
17:56 <@Evilpig> fetch my my block of cheese from the fridg
17:56 <@Evilpig> I should get up and unpack the rest of my shit but i'm just not feeling the motivation
18:36 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Don't you want to know how many of your other things have been violently manhandled?
18:56 <@Dagmar> Impressive.
18:56 <@Evilpig> I do, but i've got my bed back and it's just so damned comfy
18:57 <@Dagmar> After this many years, MythTV is still fucking too bogged down in their internal bullshit to have made any significant headway with the web interface or transcoding
18:57 <@Dagmar> Someone needs to get off their damn high horse about the server component _only_ behaving as a frameserver
19:00 < _NSAKEY> MythTV has users?
19:02 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm starting to doubt.  I'm going to have to start looking around for other options.
19:03 <@Dagmar> Considering how easy it is to get recordings out of the HD-PVR, I could probably replace a lot of this shit with some shell scripts and cron jobs.
19:03 <@Dagmar> I'm just really surprised that the MythWeb interface is still lacking in much of the required functionality.
19:04 <@Evilpig> you know what several of us in here will tell you for a web interface choice
19:04 <@Dagmar> I've no idea but I suspect Plex
19:04 <@Evilpig> it does everythign you want EXCEPT record
19:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah there's the problem.  Here I am trying to record legitimate content.
19:08 <@Dagmar> I may be switching to Kodi (formerly XBMC) soon
19:21 <@Dagmar> THat new Netflix-produced show should be starting today
19:24 <@Evilpig> which one is that?
19:25 <@Dagmar> Umm... "The one with the chick"
19:25 <@Evilpig> hehe gotcha
19:25 <@Dagmar> It's supposed to be from the same neighborhood as Daredevil
19:26 <@Dagmar> I wasn't really paying more attention to it than to note when it was starting and that Netflix will be dumping the entire season at once
19:26 <@Dagmar> ...cuz I'm _going_ to watch it.
19:26 <@Dagmar> Probably all at once
19:26 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
19:26 <@Evilpig> jessica jones
19:27 <@Dagmar> Sounds about right
19:36 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: XBMC has always been more useful IMHO
19:37 < RangerZ1> sad that a project for -modded xboxes- has among the best UX experience in OSS
19:42 < RangerZ1> hell XBMC has a nice android app that works as a TV remote, lol
19:44 < RangerZ1> though of course, xbmc only works on 'playback' not so much 'recording' , *shrugs*
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22:05 < RangerZ1> http://gifts.lootcrate.com/collections/doctor-who-limited-edition-crate/products/doctor-who-limited-edition-crate-1 for you dr. who super fans
22:26 < aestetix> RangerZ1: do you know offhand how many plaintiffs you need to qualify for a class action lawsuit?
22:47 <@Dagmar> Historically, as few as zero.
22:47 <@Dagmar> They can actually wait until _after_ a win to declare specific plaintiffs
22:53 < aestetix> interesting
22:58 < Healix> that seems like it could have some good to it. (especially if your pro plantiff) Such as if its a sensitive matter and people are scared of coming forward
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22:58 < Healix> of course im sure it gets abused
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23:54 < aestetix> Healix: that's what I was thinking
23:54 < aestetix> I mean I'm sure there are cases where a bunch of plaintiffs are fine with a judge knowing their identity, but not the public
23:55 < Healix> or like child abuse cases against institutions.
23:55 < aestetix> yep
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