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08:08 <@Evilpig> ROFL  http://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/couch.png
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08:41 <@Dolemite> Remind me never to crash on Evilpig's "pull out couch"
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08:51 <@Evilpig> hehe
08:59 < aestetix> ok
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08:59 < aestetix> anyone here good with nginx?
08:59 < aestetix> I'm trying to set up something that listens on port 80, then has an upstream that acts as an ssl client to a proxy system
08:59 < aestetix> please tell me there is a way to do this :/
09:01 < sandcrawler> you should just be able to tell nginx to listen on that port, then set the upstream server address.   We've had a variation of ssl and non-ssl traffic running through an nginx reverse proxy for weeks
09:02 < aestetix> Hmm. I was trying to do that. Let me try again.
09:10 < sandcrawler> This would be an ssl to ssl reverse proxy example we're using with perfect forward secrecy http://pastebin.com/pKQ9ksij
09:10 < PigBot> Title: server { listen 443; server_name your.nginx.host; root /dev/nul - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
09:10 < aestetix> sandcrawler: what about port 80?
09:17 < sandcrawler> just use port 80 on the listen address and set ssl on to off
09:22 < aestetix> woohoo finally got it working
09:22 < aestetix> yeah the ssl on was killing me
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09:33 < aestetix> sandcrawler: this was just a part of a larger issue that took me two days to resolve
09:33 < aestetix> god I hate ssl
09:36 < aestetix> sandcrawler: I had to deal with a client trying to connect to my server.... I had no access to the client system, and they couldn't complete an ssl handshake. It took running ssldump on the network device to figure out that they are apparnetly using an old shit client trying to use a cipher that nginx simply won't support anymore
09:37 < sandcrawler> worst thing about ssl, and nginx too, is that we tend to configure them once then never touch them for years and forget how to do them.
09:37 < sandcrawler> sounds like some of the tools we're stuck with
09:37 < sandcrawler> or I should say was stuck with, I managed to pass that football off to another team
09:38 < aestetix> yeah, so I just set up a proxy server to gather the client using port 80, and forward it along to my HSTS setup
09:38 < sandcrawler> HP url monitor on a redhat 5 server.  Can't deal with anyone doing poodle countermeasures.
09:39 < aestetix> yep
09:39 < aestetix> my solution was going to be to figure out what ciphers they were requesting, and then set up a special host just for their urls
09:50 <@Dolemite> wow, peanut oil has become THE item to mark up 500% at Thanksgiving.  $10/gallon is now considered a "sale price"
09:50 <@Dolemite> All those turkey fryers need oil
09:57  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
09:58 <@Evilpig> mmmm fried turkey
09:59 < aestetix> Evilpig: were you at the phreaknic where I tried to get everyone to eat fried chicken?
09:59 < aestetix> I think NotLarry had some
10:00 <@Dolemite> I'm buying a smoker next Wednesday when Ace Hardware starts their Black Friday deals
10:00 <@Dolemite> Then I'll be smokin' up all kinds of meat
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10:32 <@Evilpig> how is it a problem to get people to eat fried chicken?
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10:50 <@Evilpig> http://www.marathonmusicworks.com/event/988265-miss-pole-dance-america-2016-nashville/
10:51 <@Evilpig> while i'm sure that will be entertaining. it won't be awesome
10:52 <@Evilpig> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B004F70E3B27BA8
10:52 < PigBot> Title: Tickets | Tool - Nashville TN at Ticketmaster (at www.ticketmaster.com)
10:52 <@Evilpig> woot!  primus and tool
11:03 < aestetix> Evilpig: is that anarchival?
11:18 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: What are the bets that all the tickets get bot-purchased?
11:19 < _NSAKEY> s/bets/odds
11:19 < _NSAKEY> Ugh, my brain needs caffeine.
11:21 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: i'm sure they will get a large section snatched
11:22 <@Evilpig> i'm wondering why there wasn't a presale on these like usual for primus
11:23 <@Evilpig> maybe because they aren't the headliners?
11:23 < _NSAKEY> Possibly.
11:26 < _NSAKEY> The only reason I'm considering getting a ticket is because of Tool.
11:27 <@Evilpig> I'm all for some primus. tool is just a bonus
11:28 < _NSAKEY> Tool is one of those bands that was on my must-see short list when I was younger.
11:28 < _NSAKEY> I never got to see them when they were in town in 2001/2002, and I was NOT standing around a bunch of muddy hippies during Bonaroo.
11:28 <@Evilpig> anytime you can see les claypool jam is a good time. as long as he isn't doing that country twang shit
11:30 <@oddball> I knew a few folks that were obsessed with Tool back in the day.  Including a couple that decided to follow them around when their tour was in the southeast for a couple months.
11:30 <@oddball> I saw them at a festival at Starwood (Lolapalooza?)
11:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah that would be one time they played here
11:31 <@crash180> oddball: sounds familiar, them being at Lolapalooza
11:32 < _NSAKEY> Looks like they played at Starwood in 1993 and 1997.
11:32 <@oddball> Yeah... this would have been '97.
11:33 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk424ptqGOc
11:33 < RangerZ1> [HORRIFIC Video Of Cops Beating Man In San Francisco]
11:34 < aestetix> is he black?
11:34 <@oddball> That was also the concert where a buddy of mine was told he had to take his wallet chain back to the car because it could be used as a weapon... only to be greeted by a vendor selling wallet chains maybe 15 feet from the enterance.
11:34 < RangerZ1> think so
11:35 <@Dagmar> Ah... _Not_ San Francisco cops
11:35 <@Dagmar> Those are _definitely_ not SF cops.  SF cops are pretty damn reasonable.
11:35 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: thats the cops you knew back then
11:36 <@oddball> Jesus... they're going to town on the guy.
11:36 < RangerZ1> the bay is a 'little' different now
11:36 <@Dagmar> Oh, I've seen SF cops do some light asshole tossing before
11:36 <@Dagmar> ...in the 'loin
11:37 <@Dagmar> Normally they're pretty strongly in "hall monitor" mode.
11:37 < aestetix> RangerZ1: so are the academics you're around as useless as the activist/lawyer academics?
11:37 <@Dagmar> i.e., if you're not being reckless or a nuisance, they'd be more likely to talk someone down than decide they desperatelyt need to be arrested
11:38 < RangerZ1> aestetix: i'm not sure what you mean by that
11:38 < RangerZ1> I'm just more impressed he could even DO a 'high speed car chase' in SF.... He found some place where he could even reach 'high speeds' there
11:38 <@Dagmar> Perhaps a "high-altitude" chase
11:39 <@Dagmar> Some of those streets don't even need speed limit signs for anyone who values their undercarriage
11:39 <@oddball> "san fran area"  Nice way of making it damn near impossible to look for more info on the case.
11:39 <@oddball> Dagmar: Stolen car, so... fuck it.
11:40 <@Dagmar> Well, San Francisco is also it's own county, so those _Alameda_ cops were definitely not in their home neighborhood
11:40 < aestetix> RangerZ1: basically anything involving civil rights and snowden is an echo chamber of quasi-communism
11:40 < aestetix> unrelated
11:40 < aestetix> http://identityworkshop.eu/ewti-2015/preliminary-topics
11:40 < PigBot> Title: European Workshop for Trust & Identity - Preliminary Topics (at identityworkshop.eu)
11:40 < aestetix> guess which topic is mine
11:41 <@Dagmar> ...and the area in question was supposedly the Mission District, which basically, yea... One of the worst areas of San Fran
11:41 <@Dagmar> That's where I've seen the light-duty asshole-tossing taking place
11:41 < RangerZ1> rent there now is only 1/4 million a year
11:41 < RangerZ1> lol
11:41 < RangerZ1> thats the slums in SF now
11:41 <@Dagmar> ...mainly against really obvious drug dealers of non-marijuana-type drugs
11:41 < RangerZ1> ;)
11:41 < aestetix> the mission is one of the worst places, but culturally, not economically
11:41 <@Dagmar> Slums?  No, that's just a fuckin' dangerous neighborhood altogether
11:42 <@Dagmar> We used to go from the site of Aranji down to a basement place the CDC had at night, and we'd walk in fuckin' formation
11:42 < aestetix> ok so
11:42 < aestetix> RangerZ1: here's a question for you
11:43 <@Dagmar> The number of questionable-looking people who'd pop up and be highly questionable made it like a damn rails shooter
11:43 < RangerZ1> ok?
11:43 < aestetix> what is an interesting place to mine email addresses that are likely to be in the PGP keystore?
11:43 <@Evilpig> porn site
11:43 < aestetix> sadly government people tend to not be technical enough
11:43 < aestetix> lol
11:43 <@Dagmar> PGP-related mailing lists
11:43 < RangerZ1> basically
11:43 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: torproject mailing lists.
11:43 < RangerZ1> I don't know anyone who uses PGP
11:44 < aestetix> RangerZ1: yeah that's the issue
11:44 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Yes you do, you've just never asked me.
11:44 < RangerZ1> Like I said I don't know anyone sane who uses PGP
11:44 < RangerZ1> -_-
11:44 < _NSAKEY> PGP is terrible, though.
11:44 <@Dagmar> I can't even get motherfuckers to install Signal (formerly RedPhone/TextSecure)
11:44 < aestetix> PGP is mostly used by paranoid security geeks that nobody actually cares about
11:44 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Neither can I.
11:45 <@Dagmar> That's a drum we really should start beating
11:45 <@Dagmar> It doesn't have the problem of OOB key exchange being a giant pain in the ass
11:45 < RangerZ1> aestetix: when we -by law- had to encrypt all our emails for work, I think they used the built in outlook encryption anyways, which IIRC isn't PGP
11:45 <@Dagmar> S/MIME using Microsoft "god only knows" encryption
11:46 < _NSAKEY> PGP is only somewhat user-friendly if the users are using Thunderbird with Enigmail.
11:46 < _NSAKEY> Otherwise, forget it.
11:46 < _NSAKEY> Even then, that doesn't remove all of the user friction.
11:46 <@rattle> Lord Dagmar, why are most people so dumb when it comes to security issues?
11:46 <@rattle> Once again, I find myself conflicted by this issue.
11:47 < aestetix> Basically I'm playing with a project to show how bad PGP is
11:47 < RangerZ1> I blame lack of baptism by fire-water
11:47 <@Dagmar> rattle: Because we're not allowed to use effective methods of re-educating them... like scorpion pits
11:47 < aestetix> But the problem is, nobody fucking uses it.
11:47 < aestetix> which I suppose logically follows
11:47 < RangerZ1> aestetix: no one fucking uses PGP b/c its so fucking horrible + its a pain in the ass to use properly
11:47 <@rattle> Scorpion pits.  Our lord has spoken.  Let it be done.
11:47 <@Dagmar> We aren't pretending to be a religion so we can't just say "THE INVISIBLE SKY FAIRY WILL STEP ON YOUR HEAD FOR THAT", we have to actually _convince_ stupid people of complex things they can't understand.
11:48 < aestetix> right
11:48 <@Dagmar> However, I'm pretty sure I could _make_ this into a religion
11:48 < RangerZ1> aestetix: if you want a -better- talk, then setup PGP and note every place it 'sucks' as an end user
11:48 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: If the things I've heard coming from Atlanta are true, the basis for the religion are already in place.
11:48 < aestetix> RangerZ1: it would take me an hour to get through installing it
11:48 <@Dagmar> I just don't know if I'm really ready to run a cult that fetishizes secrecy and privacy
11:48 < aestetix> in terms of all the places it sucks
11:48 <@oddball> Actually, it's pretty easy with some of it.  Most folks don't consider themselves at enough risk to go through the trouble.
11:49 < _NSAKEY> I hear there's a facebook group that sprung up around starting a hacker con in Atlata... And it's just Dagmar memes.
11:49 <@Dagmar> Like, how _many_ federal bureaus would want to get in on the ground floor of that?
11:49 <@oddball> Same reason why there are folks out there that don't lock their doors.
11:49 < aestetix> That would be interesting, I don't think there's ever been a hacker con in Atlanta
11:49 <@Dagmar> I could just _assume_ roughly 1/3 of my wives for for a TLA
11:49 <@Dagmar> ;)
11:49 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: How much time will you be given?
11:49 <@Dagmar> er wives work for
11:49 <@Dagmar> aestetix: wat
11:49 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: you mean how much time will I *take* ;)
11:50 <@oddball> Right now, I'm just hoping for the folks at PN to act like fucking adults next year.
11:50 < aestetix> oddball: they didn't?
11:50 < _NSAKEY> You could just take screenshots and circle all the failure in red, if you want to speed things up.
11:50 <@rattle> Dagmar: You could be the Joel Osteen of the hacking community.  And if you decide to take this route, I expect 5% of your profits.
11:50 < _NSAKEY> oddball: They mostly did, with a few outliers.
11:50 <@oddball> Yes, there was over reaction from the marching band moms, but there were some specific complaints that are just...no.
11:50 <@oddball> Oh, I know.
11:50 <@Dagmar> memes?
11:50 < aestetix> wait
11:50 < aestetix> soccer moms came to phreaknic?
11:51 <@Dagmar> what memes?
11:51 < _NSAKEY> The bulk of the complaints happened after we all left though.
11:51 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: From what I understand, just more of the same thing the fake you kept spewing at PN.
11:51 <@oddball> Of course, there were a couple folks that did the whole "me acting like a dick is ok because it's a 'social engineering' experiment."
11:51 <@Dagmar> But where?
11:51 < aestetix> why the hell were soccer moms there?
11:52 < aestetix> .... were there any milfs?
11:52 <@oddball> aestetix: There was a marching band staying at the same hotel.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Some facebook group. I know Elonka's been watching it.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: No MILFs.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> The marching band came after midnight.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> I fielded the first two complaints.
11:52 < aestetix> there should be a website
11:52 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: u haz URL?
11:52 < aestetix> "MILF or warthog?"
11:52 < _NSAKEY> The first one was just noise, and we cleared the hallway and stopped that.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> The second one was about noise, cursing, and loose beer bottles.
11:53 <@Dagmar> "beer bottles" lol
11:53 < _NSAKEY> Even the hotel staffer who brought the complaint to me acknowledged that he saw no beer bottles.
11:53 < _NSAKEY> I still agree 100% with Wilbur when he said that those people were just looking to get a deal out of the hotel.
11:53 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they were objecting to the presence of the cozies
11:53 <@Dagmar> ...because one might use them for beer.
11:53 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That's the only thing that makes sense.
11:53 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: you should have filed an anonymous tip that you saw some of the band mothers doing heroin
11:53 <@Dagmar> We're not even really "beer people"
11:53 <@oddball> I found 1 dead beer can sitting on the table that they used for their pizza.  Pretty sure that was it.
11:53 <@Dagmar> Empty bottles of hard-liquor I can see, but beer?  Nah
11:54 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar, oddball, and I all split up around 3:30 or so and I went home.
11:54 < _NSAKEY> The rest of the complaints must have happened after that.
11:54 <@Dagmar> Yeah we were actually there and _around_ when these things should have been taking place
11:54 < _NSAKEY> Apparently someone banged on the Galaga machine at 4 AM or so and ignored the hotel guy who told him to quit.
11:54 <@Dagmar> Some custodian-type had literally _just_ tidied up in the common/tables area about a half-hour before the idiot group arrived
11:54 <@rattle> Well, no chairs thrown off the roof..  Didn't nock out the airport's radar..  I guess it's progress.
11:55 <@Dagmar> There wasn't even more than a double-handful of trash available to be had when he started
11:55 < _NSAKEY> And there was another person who stood in the lobby and announced to people that this wsa a dumpy hotel because only dumpy hotels would host PhreakNIC.
11:55 <@oddball> There was also a complaint that some folks were offering the mothers a dollar for... uh... reasons?
11:55 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, the "Let's give you money" complaint is just hilarious.
11:55 <@rattle> Propositioning soccer moms for sex.  Classy.
11:55 < _NSAKEY> I can't even imagine any of our crowd being drunk enough to do that, except maybe Jesse on Friday.
11:55 <@oddball> There were a couple that might have been us, but I could also easily see the band geeks doing.  The "We smell pot" and someone running by banging on doors.
11:55 < _NSAKEY> He bought two badges and tried to buy a third.
11:56 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Oh I could see a couple asshats deciding that it would be funny.
11:56 <@rattle> They've got a point there..  The Ritz isn't gonna host PhreakNIC.
11:56 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, but it all got blamed on us because we were the "bad" group by default.
11:56 <@oddball> yup
11:56 < _NSAKEY> The marching band of perfect snowflakes couldn't possibly do wrong.
11:56 <@rattle> Hell no.
11:56 <@rattle> Angels.
11:57 < _NSAKEY> But we apparently tempted those angels with alcohol, weed, and dollar bills?
11:57 <@rattle> Of all the PhreakNICs of past, with the various other groups that wound up sharing the hotel..  I think the swingers group was the best.
11:57 <@Dagmar> I would agree the banging on doors thing was probably the idiot group, not us
11:57 <@Dagmar> We _portknock_, not _doorknock_
11:57 < _NSAKEY> rattle: Based on the way the complaint was worded, nobody was being propositioned for anything. Someone was just trying to give money out.
11:58 <@Dagmar> ...or at least portscan.
11:58 <@rattle> People were giving away money?  Damn.  That sounds more like RSA than PhreakNIC.
11:58 <@Dagmar> "Those people we don't like did something weird and confusing and it upsets us!"
11:58 <@oddball> pretty much
11:59 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Or better yet, "Something we don't like happened and we think those people we don't like did it instead of our perfect angels!"
11:59 < _NSAKEY> rattle: Swinger group? This sounds like the source of good stories.
12:02 < RangerZ1> personally I enjoy the evangelical groups
12:02 <@oddball> YOu guys might enjoy this post: http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2015/11/12/i-take-it-all-back/
12:02 < RangerZ1> them: "praise be with you" , us: "may god have mercy on your soul"
12:05 <@Dagmar> oddball: Oh I like this guy.  The section about coloring book potentially being construed as a "micro-aggression" is great
12:05 <@oddball> Yeah... Miguel is kind of awesome like that.
12:07 < _NSAKEY> But after all this, I can’t trust them with anything more intellectually challenging than a sticker book
12:07 < _NSAKEY> But sticker books can be used to write out micro-aggressions!
12:08 <@oddball> That's why there's no pens/crayons/etc
12:08 < aestetix> penis
12:08 < aestetix> wait how is a coloring book a microaggression?
12:08 < _NSAKEY> we need to coax aestetix back to the states and just cut him loose on these colleges.
12:08 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Read oddball's link.
12:08 < _NSAKEY> http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2015/11/12/i-take-it-all-back/
12:08 < PigBot> Title: I take it all back | Gun Free Zone (at gunfreezone.net)
12:09 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: things have gone full circle now... https://bato.to/comic/_/comics/rwby-r16784/ an english fan translation of the japanese manga version of RWBY
12:09 < PigBot> Title: RWBY - Scanlations - Comic - Comic Directory - Batoto - Batoto (at bato.to)
12:09 <@rattle> I can't remember what year it was..  But the swingers group was totally cool.  They basically kept to themselves and did their thing, but they did engage with the con folks..  They were all generally cool and curious.  No great stories, as much as you'd figure there would be..
12:09 < _NSAKEY> rattle: I think the people who were at the roller derby girl parties at last year's PN would think that was the best.
12:09 < _NSAKEY> I wish I had stayed longer.
12:10 < aestetix> fun fact.... the guy from Missouri who went on a hunger strike, that wound up causing the preisdent to resign
12:10 < aestetix> that guy's dad is some corporate president who makes millions a year
12:10 < _NSAKEY> Then again, I don't know about every fun group that PN has ever been booked with in a hotel.
12:10 < RangerZ1> aestetix: I don't really find that relevant
12:10 < RangerZ1> the school -was- fucking up race issues, and the kid was right to complain
12:11 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Can you imagine how much fun George Carlin would be having with today's soft college kids if he were still alive?
12:12 < RangerZ1> the thing -I- personally find interesting is that I had -no- idea that the undergrad minorities were even protesting or anything... until I read google/news articles about it
12:12 < RangerZ1> talking about a massive walkout of classes that happened, petitions to the chancellor, etc
12:12 < aestetix> RangerZ1: it's relevant because the kid was not exactly an oppressed minority, and was clearly borrowing problems from other people
12:12 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: This might have something to do with it https://medium.com/@parkermolloy/5-things-the-media-does-to-manufacture-outrage-ba79125e1262
12:12 < PigBot> Title: 5 things the media does to manufacture outrage. — Medium (at medium.com)
12:13 < aestetix> unless he himself was targeted in an actual incident that I missed
12:14 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: i agree, but the claims that the students had 'if true' would be valid, but they all centered around dorm/frat house non-sense
12:14 < RangerZ1> also I love the TN state law that prevents more than 7 women from living together
12:15 < RangerZ1> wouldn't want to accidentally allow a whore house now
12:15 < RangerZ1> state law prevents frat/sor. houses from actually having a lot of people living there b/c of some archaic rule to prevent brothels
12:16 <@oddball> nope, frat houses are cool.
12:16 < RangerZ1> oddball: are you alright? did you fall out of your chair giggling too hard after typing that?
12:17 <@oddball> heh
12:17 <@oddball> legally speaking
12:17 < RangerZ1> yes, frat houses are fine, but only 6 or 7 people can 'live' there
12:18 < RangerZ1> apparently this was an issue a few years ago, some cop or DA or something decided to actually enforce the old law
12:19 < RangerZ1> and basically ... look at TN state legislators... they aren't in favor of repealing bad 'pro religion' laws
12:20 <@oddball> Oh, I know.
12:20 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: There's a law against more than 7 women living together?
12:21 <@oddball> I watched the insanity last year when the DA noticed that Tannerite was apparently illegal in this state... which was news to everyone.
12:21 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: what if you live in TN, you're a freaky mormon with a bazillion kids and you have a 7th woman because you had another kid
12:21 < _NSAKEY> That's hilarious.
12:21 <@oddball> I thought it was 5 women, but yes.
12:21 < RangerZ1> yes, then they changed it to include men too
12:21 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Tannerite is illegal?
12:22 <@oddball> It was until last year.  Apparently there wasn't a carve out for such things like there is in every other state.
12:22 < _NSAKEY> So it's legal now?
12:22 <@oddball> yes.
12:22 < Neoteric> you all are jerks that make things worse
12:22 < RangerZ1> http://gawker.com/5992352/crisis-averted-when-tennessee-lawmakers-discover-muslim-foot-bath-is-actually-just-a-mop-sink
12:22 <@Dagmar> I remember that
12:23 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' idiots
12:23 <@oddball> The proponants of the bill got sore in the throat from repeating that it's been used for years by tons of folks in TN without issue and they were just fixing the law.
12:24 <@oddball> My favorite was the guy that wasn't sure about it, and looked up the website while in a comitee meeting discussing that bill.  He got the floor and told the rest of the folks "I just watched a couple videos of this stuff in use.  I want to shoot it.  If we don't pass this bill, I'm going to Ky and shooting it there."
12:25 <@oddball> but there was lots of "think of the children" and "this could be used by trerrorists!" BS being thrown around.
12:25 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Damnit... why did you remind me of that shit.
12:26 < RangerZ1> hehe
12:27 < RangerZ1> b/c it fucking epitomizes TN
12:27 < RangerZ1> or at least TN GOP
12:28 <@oddball> Traditional TN Dem leadership ain't any better.
12:28 < RangerZ1> of course not, 'dixiecrats' is a term for a fucking reason
12:28 < _NSAKEY> TN only started going deep red after Obama won in 2008.
12:29 < _NSAKEY> The main difference between democrats and republicans in Tennessee is that the Democrats tend to be shady, and the Republicans are generally too stupid to plan out underhanded things correctly.
12:29 < _NSAKEY> Otherwise there's not a lot of difference.
12:30 < _NSAKEY> One of my favorites was from a guy who ran for my local state house rep seat in 2004.
12:31 < _NSAKEY> His campaign put out this postcard that brought up how Tennessee hasn't been held by a Republican majority in 150 years, and we needed to get back to conservative values.
12:31 < _NSAKEY> Quick math leads to 2004 - 150 = 1864.
12:31 < _NSAKEY> I trolled his supporters standing outside the polling area, asking if they were in favor of secession.
12:32 <@oddball> Yup.  Not since that damned Republican freed the slaves. ;p
12:32 < _NSAKEY> The thing is, Tennessee was part of the Confederacy in 1864.
12:32 < _NSAKEY> So I really wanted to know if he was trying to say we should secede again.
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12:35 <@Evilpig> alright.  i'm off to the post office and maybe the dog of nashville
12:38 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Still getting an error when I try to reply to you on Lync
12:45 < RangerZ1> so finally using win10
12:45 < RangerZ1> and I'm just waiting for it to add "content provider" support like android
12:45 < RangerZ1> since they seem to just be slowly adding features from linux like 5 years later
12:46 < RangerZ1> multiple desktops ftw, btw
12:56 < aestetix> Is morse code offensive to asians?
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12:57 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt4Pkdoit98 [Zoolander 2 Trailer] proof we've hit rock bottom as a society
13:44 <@Evilpig> 2oolander
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14:18 <@Evilpig> http://time.com/4114886/oxford-word-of-the-year-2015-emoji/
14:18 < PigBot> Title: Oxfords 2015 Word of the Year Is This Emoji (at time.com)
14:22 <@Dolemite> Oh, snap.  Travel Channel is moving its corporate HQ to Knoxville.
14:23 <@Dolemite> I guess that means more and more jobs will be opening up at the Scripps campus
14:40 < RangerZ1> Dolemite: where were they before?
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14:41 <@Dolemite> He'll never know
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14:42 <@Dolemite> Christmas Vacation, MD
14:42 <@Dolemite> Er, I mean Chevy Chase, MD
14:44 <@Evilpig> I hate sitting around feeling useless.  damnit
14:44 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: I thought you would have gotten used to it by now
14:45 <@RangerZ> *ba.da....shh...*
14:45  * Evilpig pisses on RangerZ 
14:46 <@RangerZ> sorry, I brought my umbrella, and I'm not aestetix and moved to .de b/c of 'flims' like that
14:46 <@RangerZ> also.... wow... when synaptic (sp? the mouse/touchpad company)'s software fucks up.... the computer becomes useless :/
14:46 <@RangerZ> brb
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15:02 <@RangerZ> Jesus... sounds like the French might have stopped -another- attack by doing an hour long siege/shootout last night
15:04 <@Dagmar> pYeah Reddit was all over that one
15:20 <@RangerZ> I basically only use reddit as a giant RSS feed source for light-novel/web-novel/book chapters being released
15:21 <@RangerZ> helps keep sanity if you cut out the -social- out of 'social media' ;)
15:22 <@Dagmar> Do what I do... consider it to be "anti-social media"
15:22 <@Dagmar> Most of the people on Reddit ar fucking assholes.
15:22 <@Dagmar> Treat them accordingly.
15:22 <@Dagmar> ...and I use the word "people" loosely.
15:24 <@Evilpig> this is a funny pun... "One in every 2 and a half men is HIV positive."
16:05 <@rattle> The CISO loves the molment when he gets his own account locked out because he didn't follow his own policies.  Just in case you were wondering..
16:06 <@Dagmar> heheheheh
16:06 <@rattle> Praise Lord Dagmar.
16:06 <@rattle> Sudo.
16:06 < _NSAKEY> rattle: This is what the scorpion pits are for.
16:08 <@rattle> Scorpion pits await us all.
16:08 <@rattle> Sudo.
16:10 < _NSAKEY> rattle: That just made me think of Dagmar's face + http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/0/06/ScorpionKing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110903195627
16:11 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Vetinari
16:11 < PigBot> Title: Lord Vetinari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:11 <@Dagmar> He was a BOFH before there were computers from Quirm to worry about
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16:42 <@RangerZ> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/18/ben-carsons-campaign-made-a-u-s-map-and-put-a-bunch-of-states-in-the-wrong-place/
16:42 <@RangerZ> hahaha
16:42 < PigBot> Title: Ben Carsons campaign made a U.S. map and put a bunch of states in the wrong place - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
16:43 < _NSAKEY> I read recently that even his campaign advisors have admitted that getting him to understand foreign policy is really hard.
16:43 < _NSAKEY> So this just made it a one-two punch.
16:44 < Healix1> lol thats funny
16:44 < Healix1> some graphic designer is getting fired
16:45 < _NSAKEY> Oh wow. I saw jokes about this on Twitter, but no context at all.
16:45 < _NSAKEY> At least they know how to color inside the lines?
16:45 < _NSAKEY> [/microaggression]
16:45 <@RangerZ> they merged Connecticut and vermont into 1 'super state'
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17:37 <@RangerZ> http://www.drudge.com/news/193324/pro-gun-pol-fears-syrian-refugees-would-buy
17:37 < PigBot> Title: Pro-Gun Pol Fears Syrian Refugees Would Buy Guns | Drudge Retort (at www.drudge.com)
17:37 <@RangerZ> I even found a conservative post about this
17:38 <@RangerZ> b/c I didn't want someone thinking it was trolling
21:14 <@RangerZ> so has anyone else been looking forward to the new star wars... but completely not paying any attention to the hype around it?
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21:38 <@RangerZ> holy fuck
21:39 <@RangerZ> MS solitaire  now has fucking ads in it...
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22:21 <@brimstone> yeah, but MS solitaire is still F2P
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22:36 < RangerZ1> I don't know.... it still fucking reeks to high heaven
23:00 < aestetix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/charlielyne/make-the-censors-watch-paint-drying
23:00 < PigBot> Title: Make the Censors Watch 'Paint Drying' by Charlie Lyne Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
23:13 < RangerZ1> not worth it
23:14 < RangerZ1> ohh ok a little more targeted than I thought
23:14 < RangerZ1> that's amusing
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