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01:08 <@RangerZ> hey guys, I just remembered something
01:08 <@RangerZ> PN is coming up
01:09 <@RangerZ> (not 'really' just remembered, but just thought about how close it was for the first time)
01:55 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Yeah...
01:56 < _NSAKEY> It still won't be "real" to me until we start loading stuff into cars and trucks at Elonka's place.
04:33 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: have you worked PN before?
05:11 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: No. Last year was my first year, and I went as an attendee who didn't know anyone.
05:32 < aestetix> so you were a virgin
05:32 < aestetix> lol
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05:44 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I went from that to taking on part of the speaker stuff, Amber's social media duties (Except I do NOT plan on doing live tweeting), and rolled VMs for network king of the hill.
05:44 < _NSAKEY> Right now I'm getting dependencies for IRC .debs off kali's main repo, since we're not going to have networking.
05:44 < _NSAKEY> I plan to have an IRC server so that people can coordinate, taunt, or just chat.
05:44 < _NSAKEY> The problem is that kali doesn't bundle an IRC client by default.
05:46 < _NSAKEY> After looking at this, I think I'm going to support just irssi and weechat.
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05:47 < _NSAKEY> If anyone else wants a different client, they will just have to be rudely informed that this isn't Burger King, and they can't have it their way.
05:55 < aestetix> you should include a cron job that loads goatse once a day at random
05:57 < _NSAKEY> Heh.
05:57 < _NSAKEY> I actually have some skiddie defaces already in waiting.
05:58 < _NSAKEY> I'll have to do something for the ircd that matters. Unless I changed it and don't remember, the MOTD is the ASCII version of penisbird.
06:00 < aestetix> Also having fake services on random ports that have fake banners
06:00 < aestetix> like a hackable version of ssh or something
06:00 < _NSAKEY> I talked about doing a bunch of that, but ben discouraged it.
06:01 < aestetix> what about doing a forkbomb?
06:01 < _NSAKEY> However, there will be some honeypot action going on.
06:01 < _NSAKEY> I'm also planning on providing access to a bunch of random things like web shells, rootkits, and source for botnets.
06:01 < _NSAKEY> It may or may not work. That's up to the players to figure out.
06:02 < aestetix> are you including a gui in the image?
06:02 < aestetix> because if so, I know a photo that would a great desktop background image ;)
06:02 < _NSAKEY> Heh.
06:02 < _NSAKEY> A handful have a GUI, like the North Korean OS.
06:03 < _NSAKEY> I don't care enough to change stuff like that. The hard drive is already bagged up and ready to be handed off to ben.
06:03 < aestetix> North Korean OS? Does it run on a trs-80 or something?
06:03 < _NSAKEY> No, it's actually their own linux distro.
06:04 < _NSAKEY> I've got the desktop version too, and it looks kind of like OS X.
06:04 < _NSAKEY> Red Star OS is the reason I'm not allowed to connect to Elonka's wifi during planning meetings.
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06:12 < aestetix> ugh I think someone farted
06:45 <@NotLarry> looking at loading the 6 screens on the bike.  Wondering if I should bring the 42" and a console this year.
06:47 < aestetix> NotLarry: crystal clear porn?
07:10 <@NotLarry> aestetix: just really big text.  I like to read the articles...
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09:02 <@Mirage> _NSAKEY: Here's a good photo to use. http://www.thehippo.net/images/wilbur.jpg
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09:10 <@brimstone> man, 2007?
09:10 <@brimstone> that was forever ago
09:11 <@Mirage> I know, right.  Suprising it was in color, hungh?
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09:14 < aestetix> brimstone: no it .... oh damn
09:15 < aestetix> oh god I should not have clicked that
09:17 <@Mirage> aestetix: you are the _LAST_ person in this channel to have any right to complain about anything anyone else links.
09:17 < aestetix> Mirage: at least I put NSFW next to my disgusting links
09:17 <@Mirage> he's not nekkid
09:18 < aestetix> actually
09:18 <@Mirage> you're just mad it wasn't full-frontal.. admit it
09:18 < aestetix> why do you have that image?
09:18 <@Mirage> i used it at PN for picture replacement on MySpace and Facebook via the proxy.  =)
09:19 <@brimstone> Mirage: you don't have to explain yourself
09:19 <@Mirage> Along with a ton of other pics from previous PN's and attendees
09:20 <@Mirage> That one and the Dagmar/JohnnyX kiss were the favorites of the lot
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09:47 <@Dolemite> Mirage: The best part was the reaction from the non PN guests at the hotel - "Hey, you're the people that hacked my Facebook!"
09:48 <@Mirage> Yeah.   They chose the wrong hotel to stay in that weekend.
09:52 <@Mirage> pam_tally2 + an external password manager == root accounts locked out all the time.
09:54 <@Mirage> I just can't get it through this customer's head that they need to ditch the "even_deny_root" option.   Getting tired of having to reboot hosts and reset the tally counter in single-user to gain access to servers.
10:21 < _NSAKEY> Mirage: That picture plus the Dru/Dagmar fake kiss would both go well with one of the proposed themes for next year.
10:21 < _NSAKEY> "PhreakNIC XX: Not Quite Hardcore Pornography."
10:22 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: just call it the two third's compromise
10:23 < _NSAKEY> Heh.
10:35 < frsilent> I really wish I could've gone this year :( maybe next it won't be scheduled vet's day weekend?
10:35 < frsilent> USMC birthday is generally the weekend before it since Nov 10th 1775 was the actual date
10:37 <@Mirage> frsilent: as an alternate you could have celebrated USN birthday October 13, 1775
10:38 <@CRasH180> Does frsilent own a time machine?
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11:34 < CNwaV> CNwaV is a tool
11:50 < oddball> Well, we knew that...
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11:55 < aestetix> wow
11:55 < aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/27/twitter-hopes-to-appeal-to-a-younger-crowd-with-this-new-fast-paced-tv-commercial/
11:55 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter Hopes To Appeal To A Younger Crowd With This New Fast-Paced TV Commercial | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com)
11:55 < aestetix> because what we need on twitter is folks who are even MORE immature
12:04 <@Mirage> yeah, the allowed age should be limited to ( aestetix age + 1 )
12:05 < aestetix> So 13?
12:12 <@Dolemite> (aestetix mental age + 1)
12:12 < aestetix> oh so 51
12:13 <@Dolemite> you forgot the decimal point after the 5
12:13  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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12:22 < fie> sqweee
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12:38 < aestetix> so it occurred to me
12:38 < aestetix> all the people saying the phrase "man up" is sexist are fucking idiots
12:39 < aestetix> I'm guessing more of those so-called "microaggressions" are also willful misinterpretations of the meanings of words
12:44 < aestetix> on that topic
12:44 < aestetix> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426071/kansas-student-senate-votes-ban-his-her-microaggression-pronouns
12:44 < PigBot`> Title: Kansas University: Student Senate Bans His/Her, Calls Pronouns a Microaggression | National Review Online (at www.nationalreview.com)
12:49 < CNwaV> shuddayp you cishet monster!!!! /s
12:49 <@oddball> aestetix: Oh for fucks sake.
12:49 <@Mirage> aestetix: instead of "man up" would you prefer "why don't you go grow a pair" or "poor baby, got sand in your vagina?"
12:49 < aestetix> lol
12:50 < aestetix> Mirage: what I would argue is that "man" can also be a word representing humanity
12:50 < aestetix> "god created man in his image" does not mean he made a dude with a penis, it means he made a human being
12:50 < aestetix> therefore, "man up" means assert yourself as a strong individual
12:50 < aestetix> but fauxminists would hate that
12:50 <@oddball> Mirage: Hey! you going to make it up for PN this year?
12:51 <@Mirage> aestetix: yeah, that argument..and provided supporting evidence of "man" meaning mankind got me on my philosophy teacher's bad side.   She was a huge femanist
12:51 < aestetix> lol
12:51 <@Mirage> oddball: um, no
12:52 <@oddball> heh, ok.  Just checking.
12:52 < aestetix> Mirage: a lot of so called feminist theory seems to be solutions looking for problems
12:52 <@Mirage> Might be passing through around xmas..and of course GeekNIC next year
12:52 < aestetix> and wow. A simple search for microaggressions.... wow just fucking wow
12:52 <@Dolemite> Yeah we'll have to start thinking about GeekNIC soon
12:53 <@oddball> Hopefully Geeknic won't be on the same weekend as one of my scifi cons this year.
12:53 <@oddball> ...or the NRA con.
12:53 <@Mirage> Yeah, plan soon or else it'll be located in Dolemite's back yard
12:53 <@Mirage> oddball: GeekNIC > all..
12:54 <@oddball> I love you guys, but... no.
12:54 <@Mirage> but...anarchy...beer..CAH
12:54 < aestetix> It almost seems like microaggresions is a fake theory some academics made up so they could publish papers on it
12:54 <@Dolemite> Old timey photos and moonshine
12:54 <@Dolemite> and NotLarry in a dress
12:55 <@oddball> Mirage: cons = anarchy, beer, CAH, possible pie competitions...
12:55 <@Mirage> geek death march!
12:56 <@Dolemite> beavers!
12:57 <@oddball> You guys clearly have never been to scifi cons. :p
12:57 <@oddball> aestetix: I think I understand the original intent of "microaggresions."  There are things that people say that legitimately make others uncomfortable without realizing it.  Of course, you do *not* have a right to be comfortable.
12:58 < aestetix> oddball: I got into an argument with someone about this last night
12:58 < aestetix> I said of course I take responsibility for whatever I say, but not for how someone reacts to it
12:58 <@Mirage> My mgr the other day was stunned by my slight against our workers from India when I referred to them as "Indians"
12:58 < aestetix> If someone has a problem with a word I said, it's their issue.
12:59 < aestetix> I mean clearly I am not going to call Germans nazis, but if they got upset at that, I did not cause them to be upset at the word.
12:59 <@Mirage> At which point I asked her exactly how that was supposed to offend someone from India.
12:59 <@oddball> Mirage: and.... what were you suposed to call them?
12:59 <@Mirage> oddball: exactly
12:59 < aestetix> oddball: african american indians, duh
12:59 <@oddball> "those people from that country that refuses to use modern toilets?"
13:00 < aestetix> oh man
13:00 <@Mirage> "those people from the 3rd world country that provide all our tech support"
13:00 < aestetix> oddball: in the visa office in Berlin, there are stalls with indian toilets
13:00 < aestetix> It was so fucking wierd to see
13:00 < aestetix> Literally a hole in the floor with foot things around it
13:00 <@oddball> Also known as a hole in the ground?
13:01 < aestetix> But I think a lot of this comes from well off kids who were raised in relative safety in the suburbs, and have decided to be missionaries for people they deem as less fortunate than them
13:03 < aestetix> It's just like the kids who show up at a wikileaks rally and then get furious when a speaker accidentally refers to manning as "he" or "bradley"
13:03 <@oddball> yup.  Poor people typically have other shit to deal with.
13:04 < aestetix> as much as manning may appreciate pronoun-corrections, I'm sure it would be more appreciated if the law were changed
13:04 < aestetix> and note how I had to use fucking passive to avoid pronouns there :p
13:06 <@NotLarry> "You fuck one goat..."
13:06 <@oddball> NotLarry: I know, right?
13:06 <@Mirage> NotLarry: How'd that paternity test come out?
13:07 <@oddball> NotLarry: By the way, you ever get that sarong?
13:07 <@NotLarry> The news was baaaaaaaaad...
13:08  * oddball hits the rimshot
13:09 <@NotLarry> oddball: nope.  So since no one sent me a sarong I've decided I will
13:09 <@NotLarry> reenact "the emperor's new clothes"
13:10 <@oddball> oh dear lord
13:10  * oddball rushes to Amazon.
13:16 <@Evilpig> http://geekologie.com/2015/10/very-clever-avocado-seed-belly-halloween.phphttp://geekologie.com/2015/10/very-clever-avocado-seed-belly-halloween.php
13:16 <@Evilpig> http://geekologie.com/2015/10/very-clever-avocado-seed-belly-halloween.pho
13:17 <@Evilpig> fuck.  I give up
13:18 < aestetix> Evilpig: feminists everywhere just cheered
13:21 <@Mirage> The wife was telling me about this one yesterday.  http://geekologie.com/2015/10/meanwhile-in-ukraine-chewbacca-arrested.php
13:21 < PigBot`> Title: Meanwhile In Ukraine: Chewbacca Arrested While Driving Election Candidate Darth Vader To The Polls | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
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15:35 <@Evilpig> I love having all my server shit on a rolling cart
15:37 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/1jbSqo7SYNqS7kWK9
15:37 <@Evilpig> just set my desktop on top of the cart and removed the printer for now.
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16:09 <@dasunt> Looking at smartphones, since I need one.  Say $100 ($200 max) budget, Android OS, mini-SD card slot.  Thoughts?
16:09 <@dasunt> Thinking of the Moto G.
16:10 <@dasunt> Only need it for email and browsing.
16:15 <@Evilpig> i've got a spare galaxy s3 i'll give you for $100 but I think it's sprint only
16:25 <@dasunt> :/
16:25 < frsilent> okay so anybody have suggestions (besides uninstall windows)? Summary: Running archlinux on drive 0 (/boot partion first 512Mb, / the rest), drive 1 installed windows 10 after that system kept booting into windows, booted from arch-usb, checked /boot & /EFI/Microsoft was there, moved it & now my system has gone back to booting into arch
16:25 <@dasunt> Thanks but no thanks.
16:26 < frsilent> doesn't seem like there's any added overhead from a "hey /EFI/M$ is gone let me try other devices."
16:36 <@crash180> dasunt: http://goo.gl/afUf74
16:36 < PigBot> Title: The best large smartphones that you can buy for under $200 (off contract) (at goo.gl)
16:38 <@Mirage> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/07/30/5-small-screen-android-phones-worth-buying-today/
16:38 < PigBot> Title: 5 Small Screen Android Phones Worth Buying Today (at www.gottabemobile.com)
16:39 <@Evilpig> well... I think I'm officially down to just needing to pack my clothes
16:40 <@crash180> garbage bag. annnnnnnddddd…….GO!
16:40 <@crash180> quickest packing you can do
16:40 <@Mirage> Lol..the "Sony Xperia Z3 Compact" _only_ has a screen that's 4.6".
16:41 <@Evilpig> crash180: I'm putting the majority of it into my suitcase.  the rest will go into a single box with the remaining linen
16:41 <@Mirage> god, my HTC with the 4.3" screen must be a sub compact
16:42 <@Mirage> crash180: translation - he wears the same 3 sets of clothes all the time
16:42 <@Evilpig> mostly.  haha
16:42 <@Evilpig> I can fit two weeks worth of clothes into my suitcase.  I did it when I went to buffalo
16:44 <@Evilpig> i'm debating if I want to pack my nvidia shield now and replace it with the chromecast or not
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19:41 < aestetix> god that was annoying
19:41 < aestetix> I finally figured out why wpa_supplicant was not working
19:42 < aestetix> fucking unity network manager was killing it
19:44 < aestetix> as if I didn't have another reason to hate unity
19:44 < aestetix> s/have/need/
19:56 < aestetix> oh boy
19:56 < aestetix> another GOP debate
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