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01:25 <@Dagmar> LOOOOOL
01:56 <@Dagmar> I do find it amusing how they chide you for skipping parts of the ending credits
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03:15 <@Dagmar> hahahahaha!
03:15 <@Dagmar> http://steamcommunity.com/app/266430/discussions/0/48
03:15 < PigBot`> Title: Anarchy Arcade General Discussions :: Steam Community (at steamcommunity.com)
03:15 <@Dagmar> Hrm.. http://steamcommunity.com/app/266430/discussions/0/481115363874
03:15 < PigBot`> Title: Anarchy Arcade General Discussions :: Steam Community (at steamcommunity.com)
03:15 <@Dagmar> Not sure why the first one cut off
04:08 <@RangerZ> Happy Back-To-The-Future day
04:08 <@RangerZ> don't visit social media... I'm sure its nothing but hoverboard board memes, ets
04:15 <@Dagmar> I'm just not going to look
05:37 <@Dagmar> Have you seen the new Chromecast?  :)
05:49 < aestetix> penis
07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:33 <@Shadow404> physics questuin, does time travel between space time frames violate matter/anti matter symetry?
08:34 <@Shadow404> this is the thought i woke up to thinking about todays date (back to the future)
08:42 <@Dolemite> Let me put it this way
08:42 <@Dolemite> it's unlikely that you will come up with an insightful theory about the rules of physics as it pertains to something that the greatest minds in humanity, both past and present, have never been able to solve...
08:43 <@Dolemite> when you still can't master third grade spelling
08:43 <@Dolemite> Just saying
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09:00 <@Shadow404> heh
09:29 < aestetix> Shadow404: you coming to berlin?
09:32 < aestetix> so unrelated question
09:32 < aestetix> how old are kids usually when they stop breastfeeding?
09:36 <@opticron> I think that varies a lot by country
09:39 <@Shadow404> aestetix: just got the addendum to my travel plans, head back friday night
09:40 <@Shadow404> boo, wish i could of hung out in berlin with ya
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09:48 < aestetix> opticron: I saw a kid that was 3-4 years old breastfeeding on the train today
09:55 <@opticron> uhhh...
09:56 <@opticron> that's pretty not-normal for any place
09:56 < aestetix> maybe he was 2? 2-3
10:01 <@benthemeek> There is this movement about extending it much later aestetix
10:02 <@benthemeek> it is not that unusual. The advantages are while breastfeeding it is difficult to get pregnant again (for the mother) and for the children they believe it promotes a healthy attachement bond with the mother as well as some immune things. I doubt the movement will catch on (think about teeth!) but there ya go
10:11 <@Mirage> I thnk aestetix is hoping that he can find someone that will let him revert and continue on into his 60s
10:14 <@Shadow404> breastmilk ice cream?
10:15 <@Shadow404> coffee and breastmilk
10:19 <@klixa> im breastfeeding right now
10:19 <@klixa> well, i just was
10:19 <@klixa> age 3 is a bit old
10:19 <@Mirage> bah, i can't find that old starbucks thing from ebaumsworld.   I had it as one of the porn-replacement videos at pn00b
10:22 <@klixa> benthemeek: they dont bite you... my 4 month old has teethe already....
10:32 < aestetix> Mirage: lol
10:32 < aestetix> but yeah it was odd
10:33 < aestetix> this baby was in a stroller, he jumped out and started clawing at his mom's shirt. I was like wtf
10:33 < aestetix> then she lifted up her shirt, pulled out her boob, and he started sucking on it
10:34 < aestetix> and everyone on the train was like "yep just another day in berlin"
10:34 < aestetix> it was about as odd as the time some random guy sitting across from me puked all over himself
10:36 <@Evilpig> wow.  blizzcon has linkin park playing the closing day this year
10:37 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: have you seen these yet?  surely you have.  https://goo.gl/photos/cMwFozJvFAxoat9c8
11:04 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah that fucker is barely worth hunting for
11:05 < aestetix> ugh
11:06 <@Dagmar> It would probably be a lot easier to find him on the tablet, but on the phone he just doesn't stay in place long enough to find regularly
11:07 <@Dagmar> I do like the animations when one finds him.
11:11 <@Dagmar> Wow.  this one dweller just came back with 13,154 caps and no blue items
11:11 <@Dagmar> That's a pretty bold move for someone living in a fortress where three people go missing every day.
11:21 <@Evilpig> i've got one dude that's been out for something like 4.5 days now and has a pretty good haul of weapons for a change
11:24 < aestetix> Evilpig: have you stopped partyying yet?
11:26 <@Dagmar> I have 423k caps now.  I'm just going to start letting them run until they hit the 100 item cap and turn around on their own, or die... at which point I'll spend the measly 1,000 caps to res them and then recall them
11:27 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3pkgdh/children_of_helicopter_parents_what_was_the_worst/
11:27 < PigBot`> Title: Children of helicopter parents: What was the worst or most embarrassing thing they put you through? : AskReddit (at www.reddit.com)
11:36 <@Dagmar> Okay... I just got a decent lead for CAT Financial... On West End even
11:36 <@Dagmar> Best part is they're asking for 5-8 years experience with Linux.  Heh
11:36 <@Dagmar> WAIT UNTIL THEY GET A LOAD OF ME
11:36 <@Dagmar> lol
11:40 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I still think we should be allowed to just open the door for raiders to get it over with quickly
11:41 <@Dagmar> Vault entrance has a couple of level 50 dwellers with maxed stats and flamethrowers.  They don't get past that.
11:48 <@Dagmar> Oh hell... Brace for it!  Western Digital is buying Sandisk
11:48 <@Dagmar> That'll be a stellar acquisition
12:06 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I don't have to click that reddit link, because I read some of those last night.
12:06 < _NSAKEY> Almost made a sock account just to post about a childhood friend whose parents padlocked their entertainment center.
12:09 < _NSAKEY> They had some other really strange habits, but all were explainable by the fact that his older brother became a junkie and they overcompensated in a hope that he would stay "good" or whatever.
12:09 < _NSAKEY> Well, almost all.
12:10 <@Dagmar> codydh: A working knowledge of routing mechanisms.
12:10 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Wrong channel?
12:10 <@Dagmar> Of course
12:11 <@Dagmar> Its' usually the stupidest of questions that make me mis-chan
12:11 < _NSAKEY> Sitting in ##Linux is useful solely because your messages to the wrong channel can be matched up for context.
12:11 <@Dagmar> "Hello! Newbie question, I used a simple setup script to set up anIPSEC/L2TP VPN on a Linux VPS using pluto, I believe. I want to be
12:11 < _NSAKEY> ... I feel like that last line of yours is a commentary on this channel.
12:11 <@Dagmar> able to have a client connect to the VPN, and another client connect to VNC on the first client. Assuming there's nothing blocking that on the clients, what does the server need so I can do this?"
12:12 <@Dagmar> I really hate it when people are asking questions like that
12:12 <@Dagmar> "Thinking is hard.  I want someone else to do it for me!"
12:13 < _NSAKEY> That happens in #hashcat. The people who do it get trolled and tend to get kickbanned if a certain op is around.
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12:14 < _NSAKEY> They even sent a channel message to everyone saying as much.
12:14 < _NSAKEY> [freenode] [hashcate(~hashcate@94.156.77.158)] Welcome to Channel #hashcat _NSAKEY.  To help make your stay a  pleasant one, please observe the rules.  Additionally, please check the wiki: https://hashcat.net/wiki/ and  the FAQ: https://hashcat.net/wiki/doku.php?id=frequently_asked_questions before asking questions.  You will
12:14 < PigBot`> Title: start [hashcat wiki] (at hashcat.net)
12:15 < _NSAKEY>  most likely be ridculed and gain nothing from your stay if you don't cherck these resources...
12:29 <@Dagmar> Heh
12:29 <@Dagmar> THey're so naive
12:29 <@Dagmar> People don't come to IRC to _read_ things.
12:30 < _NSAKEY> The newbies who wander into the channel might get lucky and catch me.
12:30 < _NSAKEY> I'm generally nice about telling them to RTFM.
12:30 < _NSAKEY> Some of the others... Heh, not so much.
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12:35 <@Dagmar> The Great Rounding Up of my files has begun it's final phase
12:35 <@Dagmar> er Great Rounding Up
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13:27 <@Dolemite> OMG the closing song for this week's South Park is great
13:29 < aestetix> Dolemite: you mean last wee's?
13:29 < aestetix> weeks'
13:29 < aestetix> Unless a new one aired, but I thought it aired wednesday nights
13:29 <@Dolemite> The Yelp episode
13:29 <@Dolemite> So I guess last week's
13:29 < aestetix> ah yeah
13:30 <@Dolemite> It's pretty spot on, too.  If you're going to make yourself out to be more important than any other customer at a restaurant, you'll end up with boogers and come in your food.
13:32 < aestetix> Now you know what to give out this year at PhreakNIC
13:35 <@Dolemite> Well not me.  I won't be there.
13:35 <@Dolemite> I have a campout that same weekend
13:37 < aestetix> Are you boycotting star wars?
13:37 <@Dolemite> Nope
13:38 <@Dolemite> Unless by boycotting, you mean taking my boy to go see it.
13:38  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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14:11 < crashcartpro> boycott: V. to take one's son to see Star Wars, and you have to sleep on cots outside the theater.
14:11 <@Dolemite> crashcartpro: I'll pass.  I camp with air mattresses.
14:11 < crashcartpro> heh, fair enough.
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14:55 < CNwaV> man, checking my logs i keep getting hacked by someone... their ip is 127.0.0.1
14:55 < CNwaV> gonna point LOIC at them
14:55 < phy1729> The hacker is already inside
14:55 < _NSAKEY> CNwaV: First I need you to look at your keyboard.
14:56  * CNwaV quits (Connection reset by peer)
14:56 < _NSAKEY> Locate the key with the Microsoft Windows symbol in the lower lefthand corner.
14:56 < _NSAKEY> Press it and "r" at the same time.
14:56 < _NSAKEY> In the box that pops up, type "netstat"
14:56 < phy1729> LOIC will help get rid of the cancerous hacker with ions
14:56 < _NSAKEY> This will show you all the hacking and identity theft currently happening on your computer.
14:57 < CNwaV> dude, i just ran metasploit.exe and hacked the crap out of this 127.0.0.1 guy... so many holes in this guys system.  his password is password1
14:58 < CNwaV> wow, he has an exact copy of my harddrive
14:58 < CNwaV> watching him on his webcam, man he is ugly
14:58 < _NSAKEY> You better delete it before he can back it up or exfil it all to China.
14:58 < CNwaV> _NSAKEY: good idea
15:01 < CNwaV> so are you guys/gals ready to get wrecked during the inebriation challenge this year?
15:02 <@Mirage> we get inebriated all the time, what's the challenge?
15:04 <@Evilpig> keeping your pants on
15:04 < CNwaV> well i heard there was going to be a phreaknic kids section... the challenge is to make one cry or get punched in the face by a parent
15:04 <@Evilpig> dude... not even a challenge.  "there is no santa"
15:04 < CNwaV> santa works for the NSA
15:05 < CNwaV> oh, autocorrect, i meant satan
15:06 < CNwaV> i will take it upon myself to run the Sailor Jerry's VomitCon
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15:09 < CNwaV> so who is driving me back down south afterwards? i don't mind driving up, but driving with a hangover in the mountains sucks
15:09 <@Evilpig> lol
15:09 <@Evilpig> world's longest uber trip
15:10 < CNwaV> i wonder if i can even drive my car up... i should check on the legality of it in all the states i have to drive through
15:10 <@Evilpig> que?
15:10 <@Evilpig> what kind of strangeness have you done?
15:11 < CNwaV> straigt pipes on a mustang, no cat
15:11 < CNwaV> it's fun to drive... just loud.. really loud
15:13 < CNwaV> i think i will have to bring it this year... usually i catch a ride because the mileage on it is horrible
15:13 < CNwaV> i guess i could catch a ride with susan, but she drives a prius... i would feel dirty
15:13 <@Mirage> if its a classic, it shouldn't be an issue since they didn't come with one anyway, anything newer than when they started requiring a cat is a grey area up until 25 yrs old.  anything newer than 25 years normally and newer than 1996 most definitely fall under stronger emissions requirements.
15:15 < CNwaV> 2007, so yeah... fuck me
15:17 < CNwaV> i guess i could ride up in a prius and then wash myself with this https://relayrides.com/car-rental/brentwood/maserati-ghibli/124374
15:17 < PigBot`> Title: Maserati Ghibli Rental in Brentwood, TN RelayRides (at relayrides.com)
15:19 <@Mirage> those are so common in the DFW I don't even bother looking anymore
15:20 < _NSAKEY> CNwaV: This guy is most definitely participating in whatever inebiration challenge happens this year: https://twitter.com/appleget/status/655429767156637696
15:20 < PigBot`> Title: appleget on Twitter: "@phreaknic Not packed but, twelve cases of beer ordered from wholesaler, does that count? #DRINK!" (at twitter.com)
15:20 <@Mirage> Lamborgini of Dallas is right down the street from me, so I've become pretty numb to the "wow" of them also
15:21 < CNwaV> i actually thought about getting a maseratti... they are actually reasonably cheap... until you need an oil change... costs as much as a ferarri
15:22 < CNwaV> i will just have to wait for the new tesla, *sadface*
15:22 <@Evilpig> I see the tesla's all over up here
15:22 < CNwaV> might not be in the tres commas club, but at least my doors will open like *this* -,_,-
15:23 <@Evilpig> out at the menlo park mall they have one parking lot that is all chargers for them
15:24 <@Dolemite> Is there a menlo park mall near you, pig, because I don't remember there being a mall in Menlo Park, CA
15:24 <@Evilpig> yes
15:24 <@Evilpig> you know the whole edison thing... and menlo park.  that's here.
15:25 <@Evilpig> which oddly there isn't a single edison reference anywhere in the mall
15:26 <@Dolemite> they'd probably have to pay royalties
15:28 <@Evilpig> http://www.menloparkmuseum.org/
15:28 < PigBot`> Title: Thomas Edison Center | Menlo Park Museum (at www.menloparkmuseum.org)
15:32 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to head for the hacienda
15:32 <@Dolemite> later
15:34 < CNwaV> bye sweetie
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16:08 < CNwaV> dude, cryptsy is pissing me off
16:09 < _NSAKEY> What's cryptsy? Is that an etsy for cryptoanarchists?
16:11 < CNwaV> crypto exchange
16:16 <@Dagmar> It's a site for hand-made (and probably somewhat dodgy looking) cryptography algorithms of course!
16:20 <@Dagmar> wordsToL_: You're not trying hard enough yet if you've never had to figure out wtf "5>6" was doing.
16:30 < CNwaV> bleh, trying to decide on the a/c setup for our two new datacenters... these bastards won't let me get a raised floor.
16:31 <@Dagmar> Tell them they're going to need a lot of circular fans
16:31 <@Evilpig> so go inrow cooling and close off your cold aisle
16:41 <@Dagmar> Damn women, trying to kill me
16:42 <@Dagmar> I could not find the can opener anywhere
16:42 <@Dagmar> Finally I find it after a half hour of searching... SOMEONE (who will remain nameless) put it in Tool Drawer 1.
16:42 <@Dagmar> Apparently they think a can opener is a _tool_ and not an eating implement.
16:43 <@Dagmar> I don't care that Tool Drawer 1 is directly below the silverware drawer.  Shit like that is how bachelors starve to death.
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16:54 <@Evilpig> all my tools are in the closet and the cup on my desk
16:55 <@Evilpig> tool cup exhibit a:  https://goo.gl/photos/FAr7snnBhiUNSawo7
17:05 < aestetix> oh wow
17:05 < aestetix> https://wikileaks.org/cia-emails
17:05 < PigBot`> Title: WikiLeaks - CIA Director John Brennan emails (at wikileaks.org)
17:08 <@Dagmar> Wow some of that shit is evidence of war crimes
17:09 <@Dagmar> " Instead of listing all allowed methods, every kind of interrogation should be considered compliant, as long as it is not explicitly forbidden by the "Army Field Manual" (AFM). (May 2008)" <-- very fucking against treaties
17:10 < aestetix> I am cool with most of it
17:10 < aestetix> the SF86 I am not
17:12 < aestetix> oh wow
17:12 < aestetix> https://wikileaks.org/cia-emails/Torture-Ways/Torture-Ways.pdf
17:12 <@Dagmar> Yeah
17:12 <@Dagmar> Fuck that guy
17:18 < aestetix> oh wow
17:19 < aestetix> George Tenet's home phone number is in this
17:20 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Have you ever looked at the SF86?
17:20 < _NSAKEY> I gave it a decent reading last night and had a couple of laughs.
17:21 < aestetix> Yeah
17:21 < aestetix> It's fucking insane
17:21 < aestetix> I read through the most recent draft after the OPM hack
17:21 < aestetix> I think it was over 100 pages long
17:21 < _NSAKEY> For one, the alcohol section just assumes that the applicant drinks.
17:21 < _NSAKEY> Like, there's no "I don't drink" option that I could see.
17:22 < _NSAKEY> Also, under the section for co-habitants (aka live-in boyfriends or girlfriends), OPM thoughtfully put enough space so that an applicant can list two co-habitants.
17:24 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I'm of the opinion that if he was dumb enough to use AOL e-mail for classified stuff, he deserves the consequences.
17:24 < aestetix> If anything in the emails was classified, then he should be put in jail.
17:25 < _NSAKEY> I don't care much about the fact that text from his SF-86 got leaked. To me, that's just a bonus that makes it personal for him.
17:26 < _NSAKEY> Otherwise, I doubt he would even give a shit, since it's not like he's going to get charged for anything.
17:26 < aestetix> The reason I care is because a bunch of unrelated people got exposed because of it.
17:26 < aestetix> I really wish wikileaks had redacted things like family phone numbers and addresses
17:26 < _NSAKEY> That sucks, but that makes it personal for him.
17:26 < aestetix> It also kills any higher moral ground wikileaks might have had
17:26 < _NSAKEY> He has to deal with telling those people that he's too old to use technology, and needs to fuck off into a cave somewhere.
17:27 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: if someone shows up with a bomb at Brennan's childhood friend's home and kills them, that blood is on Wikileaks.
17:27 < _NSAKEY> I really doubt anything like that's going to happen.
17:28 < _NSAKEY> They've leaked way worse stuff and it hasn't lead to anything except embarassment.
17:28 < aestetix> It's a hypothetical, but you know Brennan is the guy who basically created the Obama drone program right?
17:29 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, but people were getting droned to death before Obama had presidential ambitions.
17:29 < aestetix> Yes, but the details of Bush/Clinton's family was not painted on the watertower.
17:30 < _NSAKEY> These people are probably pretty findable, but this SF-86 lowered the difficulty level.
17:31 < aestetix> Ok, here's another way to put it. What if someone published YOUR SF86?
17:31 < _NSAKEY> I'm never going to go work for The Man, so that hypothetical is silly.
17:31 < aestetix> Ok. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
17:32 < _NSAKEY> I get what you're saying, but this guy isn't going to see any actual justice over this stupidity.
17:32 < aestetix> And I mean I help organize a conference that had Snowden as a speaker. I'm not exactly opposed to Wikileaks style stuff :p
17:32 < _NSAKEY> All this is going to do is cause some phone calls and hand-wringing, and maybe some restless nights.
17:33 < aestetix> I don't know what's going to happen.
17:33 < _NSAKEY> I'm going off of history with Wikileaks stuff.
17:33 < aestetix> The one thing I know for sure is that I just lost a lot of respect for Wikileaks.
17:33 < _NSAKEY> Just look at the fact that the DOD raised an epic shitstorm over the stuff they were publishing, and the NSA did the same after Snowden's leaks began.
17:34 < aestetix> I may mention something to Jake next time I see him.
17:34 < _NSAKEY> The "blood on their hands" thing has been said at least once for both.
17:34 < _NSAKEY> ... And yet nothing's happened.
17:35 < aestetix> I would argue that the difference is that the cables were all considered government service records
17:35 < aestetix> If you make a record of something while serving the public, I think that record should be made public.
17:35 < aestetix> (within a reasonable timeframe)
17:35 < _NSAKEY> They were the diplomatic version of egg on your face.
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17:36 <@dasunt> I think I just had the best tech support ticket.
17:36 <@dasunt> I was helping someone with why their login information wasn't being remembered, and after I fixed that problem, they mentioned they were having an issue with accessing OWA from their vehicle.
17:36 <@dasunt> So we went down to his brand new Tesla Model S to fix it.
17:36 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: if someone says personal shit in official memos, then that's about as reckless as sending classified documents over email, IMHO.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Here's a question for you to think on, while I have to step away for 15-20 minutes.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> Do you think Brennan is going to see any official consequences because of these leaks?
17:37 < _NSAKEY> Do you think he'll so much as be pressured to resign?
17:37 < _NSAKEY> I don't.
17:37 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: by whom?
17:37 < aestetix> By Congress/etc, nope.
17:38 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Meaning criminal charges, being bullied into resigning, or anything.
17:38 < aestetix> Nope.
17:38 < aestetix> None of that will happen.
17:38 < aestetix> Although he might find an excuse to retire early.
17:38 < _NSAKEY> He should.
17:38 < _NSAKEY> He should take Diane Feinstein on his one-way retirement vacation, while he's at it.
17:38 < aestetix> Yeah, but everyone will be calling for his head (on twitter) and nobody will be suggesting a replacement.
17:38 < aestetix> I would also love that.
17:39 < _NSAKEY> Did you hear about her saying that ddos against banks is worse than the OPM breach? Really shows you who funds her campaigns.
17:39 < aestetix> God.
17:39 < _NSAKEY> Yes, she is apparently actually that stupid.
17:39 < aestetix> The OPM breach was the worst in US history.
17:39 < _NSAKEY> The one bright side? She's 82, so she has to retire or die soon enough.
17:39 < _NSAKEY> She can't live forever.
17:39 < aestetix> ok on that note I'm going to sleep
17:40 < _NSAKEY> You'll be dreaming about little old ladies who think ddos > hacking.
17:49 <@Dagmar> lol
17:49 <@Dagmar> Just talked to an HR girl who somehow was of the opinion that I'd been doing LInux for ten years
17:49 <@Dagmar> "LOL ten?  Try twenty."
17:58 < CNwaV> fuck me, good thing i tlaked with the foreman.  turns out the a/c units are about 1/7 of the needed size
17:58 < CNwaV> alright im out, later gentz/'gentettez
18:00 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Were you doing Linux before she was born?
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18:31 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Could be
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18:56 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: Job ID:  1063512    https://www.nsa.gov/psp/applyonline/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_CE.GBL?Page=HRS_CE_HM_PRE&Action=A&SiteId=1
18:56 < PigBot`> Title: An error has occurred. (at www.nsa.gov)
18:56 <@Evilpig> they have a shitty site that you can't just link to anything
19:04 <@Dagmar> Not interested
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21:18 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: or maybe its test within itself to find the posting
21:18 <@Shadow404> would be like the NSA to do that
21:38 <@jb7od> pew pew!
21:49 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: But why would anyone go to work for the NSA, unless it was to gain access to classified documents and leak them?
22:05 <@Dagmar> *sigh* I'm a glutton for punishment
22:05 <@Dagmar> So maybe Best Buy was out of the 2Tb green/blue drives
22:06 <@Dagmar> ...and so maybe I bought a 3Tb mainstream drive instead of the WD20EZRZ I was going to RAID 5 with using the other two I have
22:06 <@Dagmar> But... hey... I can still stripe & mirror this 3Tb disk with the one in my desktop computer
22:06 <@Dagmar> ...after I fucking backup and restore every goddamn thing twice over, again
22:06 <@Dagmar> Fuuuu-uuuu-
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