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02:40 <@Dagmar> Bloody finally.
02:40 <@Dagmar> Freakin' optical drive in the old machine is _clearly_ not working anymore
02:41 <@Dagmar> I had to go through a BUNCH of bullshit to get at the disk to scrounge out my nickserv password
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02:45 <@Dagmar> Maybe this is tolerable
02:45 <@Dagmar> Okay.  I'll keep irssi for now
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04:11 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
04:11 <@Dagmar> Newschannel5's web designers are the bestest ever
04:12 <@Dagmar> At the moment, on Chromium, it just shows four links on a white page.
04:12 < aestetix> heh
04:12 <@Dagmar> Complete and utter failure of CSS
04:12 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Does www.newschannel5.com look like it's broken to you?
04:17 < aestetix> nope
04:17 < aestetix> it looks fine
04:17 < aestetix> But I'm using Firefox
04:28 <@Dagmar> Ah they've fixed it now
08:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:10 < aestetix> hi Dolemite
08:12 <@Dolemite> hi aestetix
08:12 <@Dolemite> How's your German language learning going?
08:12 < aestetix> I didn't hug you. I am trying to respect your boundaries while you come around :)
08:12 < aestetix> c'est bien
08:12 < aestetix> oh wait
08:13 < aestetix> das ist gut
08:13 <@Dolemite> Not very well, I see
08:13 < aestetix> why?
08:13 <@Dolemite> Just wondering how well you're learning in the immersive environment
08:14 < aestetix> I am able to read probably.... 10-15% of signs/posters/etc
08:15 < aestetix> german is fucking insane.... very different from english
08:31 < aestetix> wow
08:31 < aestetix> http://gracehopper.anitaborg.org/about/
08:31 < PigBot> Title: Grace Hopper | About (at gracehopper.anitaborg.org)
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08:42 < aestetix> I can feel the estrogen just reading that page :/
09:15 < frsilent> Dagmar: in their defense multimedia companies are super shitty to work at generally
09:16 < frsilent> my first IT job was part-time for one & we managed 32 different properties as a team of 3 FTEs, myself, & ~8 interns working for $8/hr
09:16 < aestetix> how is that defending them
09:16 < frsilent> I no, I'm defending the designers
09:16 < frsilent> lol, because they're probably young & inexperienced
09:17 < frsilent> when I managed the interns I once caught an alert('PENIS') in the javascript....thank god it was just breaking the page because the kid forgot a ;
09:17 < frsilent> and that was on production
09:18 < frsilent> *oh no,
09:20 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af1OxkFOK18
09:20 < aestetix> haha
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10:10 < Shadow404> so, im impressed with thn pn organization this yr
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10:11 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I haven't been following...are you being serious or sarcastic
10:13 < Shadow404> serious, actual stuff scheduled and posted
10:13 < Shadow404> not gonna be able to attend again
10:13 < Shadow404> work trip to london, will be flying out that weekend
10:15 <@Mirage> https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/haldermanheninger/how-is-nsa-breaking-so-much-crypto/
10:15 < PigBot> Title: How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (at freedom-to-tinker.com)
10:16 < Shadow404> so question, what was the pub neil tyson visited in london in the updated cosmos series?
10:17 <@Mirage> Dunno, haven't watched it
10:21 < Shadow404> oh man, missing out
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10:42 < aestetix> Shadow404: you can visit me in berlin
10:45 < Shadow404> i might just do that, ive been to stuggart last trip to do a dc equipment change
10:46 < aestetix> cool
10:47 < aestetix> how long are you in the area?
10:52 < Shadow404> 10 days
11:02 < frsilent> please don't judge me but xcode is such a breath of fresh air sometimes; I generally use vim but for these 1000+ src file projects holy shit it's near impossible
11:06 < aestetix> Why would you load 1000 src files into vim?
11:15 < frsilent> I wouldn't but when I'm bouncing around a lot it's much easier, also despite my best efforts I'm kind of sold on the iOS idea of Frameworks
11:19 < _NSAKEY> frsilent: Are you sure aestetix wasn't one of the interns?
11:28 < frsilent> lmao, no I'm generally in agreement with the "unix as an ide" philosophy; lately not so much
11:41 < _NSAKEY> I was asking that in reference to alert('PENIS') being used in production.
11:47 < frsilent> lol, fair enough
11:47 < frsilent> though I haven't seen a 'penis' from him in quite some time
11:49 < _NSAKEY> He sometimes just types "vagina" for the sake of shaking things up.
12:07 < frsilent> what a revolutionary
12:16 < aestetix> what's wrong with vagina?
12:20 < frsilent> nothing; I myself am a huge fan of it
12:33 <@sasquatc4> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=playlist+the+very+best+of&c=music&docType=2&sp=CAJiGwoZcGxheWxpc3QgdGhlIHZlcnkgYmVzdCBvZnoCGACKAQIIAQ%3D%3D:S:ANO1ljJGLfs
12:33 <@sasquatc4> ~75 free 'best ofs' on google music today
12:49 <@Dagmar> Hmm... All I see is the Antenna Sampler
12:49 <@Dagmar> ...which is kinda not so great stuff
12:56 <@sasquatc4> really? you should be seeing a ton of 'playlist  best of' results on that search
13:00 <@Dagmar> Ah I wasn't using that link
13:12 <@Dagmar> There's a couple of things in there that don't deeply offend my sensibilities
13:12 <@Dagmar> Thanks for the tip
13:16 <@Dagmar> Okay.  THIS is just overkill
13:16 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/news/local-news/16-year-old-shot-with-pellet-gun-at-veterans-park
13:16 < PigBot> Title: 16-Year-Old Shot With Pellet Gun At Veteran’s Park - Story (at www.newschannel5.com)
13:17 < oddball> I guess it depends on the strength of the pellet gun.
13:17 <@Dagmar> On the surface of it, it looks like a load of crap
13:18 < oddball> There's "POS I bought at Walmart," and then there's pellet guns that people honestly hunt small game with.
13:23 < Shadow404> they use to sell more than air guns at most wal marts, now its just paintball and bb/pellet. they do sell all types of ammo still, even large rounds
13:31 < aestetix> penis
13:41 <@Dagmar> I *think* they might be doing some Halloweeny thing with Fallout Shelter
13:41 <@Dagmar> This morning it's been randomly playing "suspense piano" sequences while I moved the little guys around
13:43 <@Dagmar> Oh wow.  They just put a ten person limit on how many people you can have exploring the Wasteland, too.  Feh.
13:45 <@Dagmar> Ah... Yes.  "Some Dwellers are reporting strange, some would even say mysterious, sightings in Vaults."
13:48 <@Dagmar> According to Reddit, look for a guy wearing a trenchcoat for free caps
13:54 < frsilent> aestetix: thank you
14:12 < aestetix> this drones leak is huge
14:12 < aestetix> https://theintercept.com/drone-papers
14:12 < PigBot> Title: The Drone Papers (at theintercept.com)
14:40 <@Dagmar> Damn Murfreesboro
14:40 <@Dagmar> There's simply not enough landmarks about the hotel to make a decent mission without creating flagrantly artificial landmarks
14:43 <@benthemeek> okay, I feel like this problem should be solved by now but I will ask the channel.   I need an application that allows multiple people to edit the same document or sheet at the same time (like google docs)
14:46 < Shadow404> google docs
14:46  * Shadow404 ducks
14:55 <@Dagmar> Well, he's right.
14:55 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much the only thing that's likely to work for multiple parties
14:57 <@benthemeek> In my case this information is too sensitive to trust to the cloud so I need a lan implimentation of google docs
14:57 <@opticron> you could run a google wave server :)
14:57 <@Mirage> I hear Sharepoint's pretty awesome
14:57  * Mirage ducks and cpvers
15:00 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Then as far as I know that flies directly into commercial product territory
15:03 < frsilent> I think evernote or dropbox might have something similar to that functionality
15:09 <@Mirage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collaborative_software
15:09 < PigBot> Title: List of collaborative software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
15:20 <@Dagmar> The main problem is that i'm sure _someone's_ going to go... "But I can't use that on my timex sinclair!"
15:21 <@Dagmar> EverNote _might_ work, but again... that's cloud and was already declared a show-stopper
15:21 <@Dagmar> In theory webdav would work, but the whole issue of content pushes by one person becoming immediately visible to the others... THat's messy
15:22 <@Dagmar> With a slightly modified definition of "realtime", git would work for a lot of document formats
15:24 <@benthemeek> looking at
15:24 <@benthemeek> "onlyoffice" might be what I need
15:32 <@Dagmar> Drat.  I'm going to have to drive out to Murfreesboro
15:33 <@Dagmar> Oh well.  The weather will be nice saturday
15:39 < frsilent> idk Dagmar why not just use 365?
15:39 < frsilent> does it allow for private hosting?
15:44 < frsilent> Dagmar: http://www.unixmen.com/install-openkm-document-management-system-in-ubuntu-15-04/
15:44 < PigBot> Title: Install OpenKM Document Management System In Ubuntu (at www.unixmen.com)
15:44 < frsilent> ?
15:45  * Dagmar screams in raw terror at the sight of CATALINA_BASE
15:48 <@Mirage> http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2015/09/doctor-who-personality-quiz-which-master-are-you/
15:48 < PigBot> Title: Doctor Who Personality Quiz: Which Master Are You? | Anglophenia | BBC America (at www.bbcamerica.com)
15:51 <@Dagmar> Mirage: You'd be proud of me yesterday morning.
15:52 <@Dagmar> despite having put off rearranging the bridge on the VM host because it didn't have a keyboard attached the night before... I got up bright and early, ssh'd into it, and downed eth0 like a boss
15:52 <@Dagmar> This is what happens when I dont have enough caffiene in me
16:02 < oddball> huh... Apparently PN will have a martial arts demo.  I wonder who's doing it?
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16:03 <@Mirage> Dagmar: happens
16:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I was cussing myself at first but then... it's been a few years so... probably still under any limits.  :)
16:04 <@Dagmar> Also it's not like I didn't have a keyboard right behind me.  It just wasn't plugged in.
16:04 <@Dagmar> (yes I was that lazy about it)
16:04 <@oddball> I think we're all guilty of that or similar.
16:05 <@oddball> (see: fuck! I just rebooted/shutdown the wrong machine that I was ssh'd/rdp'd into!")
16:05 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Okay, I've just about gotten the X41 monstrosity cleaned up for ya... Figured out last night the optical drive in it is tanked, but if you've a spare optical of any kind it's pretty easily replaceable
16:05 <@Mirage> While replacing the power steering pump on my pickup I got a bit rough (it was stuck) and wound up breaking a nipple off a little vaccuum thing on the bottom of it.   I thought "no biggy, I'll just go grab a new one tomorrow."
16:05 <@Dagmar> oddball: I downed the eth0 interface that I was ssh'd in through.  Heh
16:06 <@Mirage> $334 for the part from Toyota...$108 from O'Reilly
16:07 <@Mirage> For a hunk of plastic attached to a metal threaded bit.
16:12 <@oddball> Mirage: Have I told you about the god damn window regulator in my car?
16:12 <@oddball> There's a pully in it made of fucking nylon, so... it breaks and it's $350 for a new one... if you can find one.
16:12 <@Mirage> the motor for my 300zx is list $527.  With my discount it's only $420
16:13 <@oddball> For a window motor?  Please tell me that at least includes the regulator.
16:13 <@Mirage> nope, regulator is separate
16:14 <@oddball> Holy fucking shit!  It's just a little electric motor.
16:15 <@Dagmar> Shit like that makes a 3d printer a viable toolbox purchase
16:15 <@Dagmar> CoJaBo: You have a can of compressed air?  Give it a little blast
16:17 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... unfortunately, it's complexed enough that that wasn't an option.  At least, Critch didn't think it was an option... and I tend to believe him on shit like that.
16:22 <@Mirage> oddball: I think the regulator for the 300zx is only ~$175
16:22 <@Mirage> I haven'
16:22 <@Mirage> t priced one in 15-20 years
16:23 <@oddball> That sounds in line with what the regulator for my front doors cost.
16:23 <@Dagmar> Fuck it.  Yank out the window and make a mesh harness like Nascar uses.  ;)
16:24 <@Mirage> the rebuilt regulator for my civic was like $162 from Autozone.  Motor + arm/cables
16:24 <@Dagmar> That might cost all of six dollars worth of electrical tape.  :)
16:24 <@oddball> Dagmar: Or I could go to the local pull-a-part, yank one from there, and pay... uh... $20?
16:24 <@Mirage> maybe
16:25 <@Mirage> I miss pull-a-part.  they need to build a couple here in the dallas area
16:25 <@oddball> And the hardest part by far was figuring out how the hell to tear the door apart, since Google is convinced that Deville and Seville are the same word.
16:26 <@Mirage> so far IMO the salvage yards here should be named drop-and grab-your-ankles
16:26 <@oddball> I'm surprised that there's not... or at least seomething similar.
16:26 <@oddball> We now have a couple brands of "get it your own damn self" type junk yards around here.
16:26 <@Mirage> there are some in south TX and one out west..otherwise you have to go to OK or LA
16:26 <@oddball> suck
16:29 <@Mirage> Almost all the salvage yards in the DFW area are in Grand Prairie.  https://www.google.com/maps/search/salvage+yards/@32.7451181,-96.9375696,15z
16:30 <@Dagmar> Pull-A-Part should really have a "weapons optional" disclaimer under their front gate
16:32 <@Dagmar> bratchley: It's a filesystem exporting mechanism
16:33 <@oddball> Sadly, they're posted "no weapons."
16:34 <@oddball> Because... uh... I guess they're expecting people to get into fights over parts? Or something?
16:35 <@Mirage> ever caught the firefighters out there practicing with the jaws-of-life?
16:35 <@oddball> heh.. no...
16:35 <@Mirage> The wife and I saw them out there one Sat morning..I think it was the Hendersonville FD.  They were tearing up a car and a minivan
16:35 <@Mirage> pretty impressive
16:36 <@oddball> nice
16:37 <@oddball> I've seriously thought about using them for a donor engine for the Fiero.  A Caddy Northstar V8 is said to fit perfectly in the engine bay without modification.
16:38 < aestetix> god i need to rebuild that server
16:38 < aestetix> I had to make some ssl related updates to a webserver where nginx is broken.
16:38 < aestetix> normally you make the update and service nginx reload
16:38 < aestetix> but doing that on this server breaks it, so you have to reboot the whole fucking server
16:40 <@Mirage> aestetix: it's a 'feature'
16:40 <@oddball> reset all the things!
16:41 <@Dagmar> Some real professionals at work there
16:41 < aestetix> I'm not really sure how the damn thing is working
16:41 < aestetix> I suspect it's something related to upstart
16:41 < aestetix> Note that I fucking hate upstart and systemd
16:42 <@Dagmar> Maybe you should chase down why nginx is refusing to restart gracefully
16:42 < aestetix> Dagmar: it would take less time to just rebuild the fucking thing. I have an ansible script ready for it.
16:42 < aestetix> And it's less nginx, and more that nginx is trying to load passenger for rails
16:43 < aestetix> And passenger/rails is not starting
16:43 < aestetix> and I really do not want to touch ruby
17:17 <@benthemeek> xo is down...
17:17 <@benthemeek> thus my dns records are down..
17:23 <@oddball> Well, that's not good.
17:26 < _NSAKEY> oddball: There was actually a crackhead who got mad and started shooting at the Pull-A-Part in Nashville a few years back.
17:26 < _NSAKEY> He was out in the yard, where nobody really got hurt.
17:26 < _NSAKEY> That place has changed a lot.
17:27 < _NSAKEY> They don't buy from the public much anymore, and instead do most of their car buying at auctions.
17:27 < _NSAKEY> <--- The only person in Nashville who goes out there to see if cars have been junked and who doesn't have a badge.
17:27 <@oddball> huh
17:28 <@oddball> Of course, that makes me want to carry while I'm there *more*, not less.
17:28 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I had forgotten all about that box. Does it take a normal optical drive? If not, I'm boned. If so, it will probably make a pretty good Populous: The Beginning machine.
17:28 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: See the comment to Dagmar. Also, look into Etherpad, maybe. If you're just looking for a multi-player notepad, that could be all you need.
17:32 < _NSAKEY> oddball: PM.
17:42 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Bog standard IDE.  To get back into the filesystem I had to mount an ubuntu DVD by just pulling the cable loose and plugging it into a working drive
17:42 <@Dagmar> It's possible the drive is repairable, I've just not pulled it out to see
17:42 <@Dagmar> Either way it appears to be a CD drive and the box definitely doesn't boot from USB
17:43 <@Dagmar> It _should_ be able to run things like Acidwarp, too
17:44 <@Dagmar> Kinda pisses me off that Ubuntu booted on it in a graphical mode, so maybe it's just that slackware kernel that's broken in some demented way that makes it refuse to not do KMS
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23:05 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: http://www.destructoid.com/an-official-rwby-game-is-on-greenlight-and-it-looks-pretty-great-315573.phtml
23:05 < PigBot> Title: An official RWBY game is on greenlight, and it looks pretty great (at www.destructoid.com)
23:05 <@Dagmar> fuck yeah
23:05 <@RangerZ> it actually does too, a spectacle fighter with 4 player internet co-op
23:06 <@Dagmar> Personally I think it should be an MMO
23:09 <@RangerZ> I agree
23:10 <@RangerZ> but that's only b/c you'd end up in-game marrying someone playing as nora
23:26 <@Dagmar> I don't do that sort of thing, at all
23:26 <@Dagmar> Unless there's like, profit, or extra powers in it
23:26 <@Dagmar> ;)
23:28 < _NSAKEY> Thus the "Evil" in "EvilDagmar."
23:30 <@Dagmar> Hey I'm no different than any other hardcore gamer
23:31 <@Dagmar> We're the world's largest supplier of indigent pillaging armies
23:32 <@Dagmar> For us, not only is violence an answer to a problem, it's usually the best and most efficient way to proceed
23:32 <@Dagmar> Violence, and unrestrained larceny.
23:34 <@RangerZ> sometimes torture and pillaging , but thankfully not rape
23:35 <@RangerZ> just be glad you aren't an NPC in an RPG, trying to keep your valuables in a crate/jar or in/on a shelf/bookcase/dresser
23:35 <@oddball> I have put my digital larceny in check to a degree... I try to not steal the silverware and plates off of dinner tables anymore.
23:35 <@RangerZ> 'try'
23:35 <@Dagmar> I install mods so I know what's actually trash
23:35 <@oddball> Those candlabras on the other hand...
23:35 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, I'd scrape the pixels off the walls in some places if there was more money in it
23:36 <@RangerZ> oddball: those weren't candelabras, that was the jewish family's minora
23:36 <@Dagmar> Hell man... if a vendor will buy a rat's testicles for a fixed price, no questions asked, all those paintings we pass by should surely be worth something
23:36 <@oddball> So it has religious significance?  Does that mean it's worth more? Score!
23:36 <@RangerZ> oddball: ok you nazi
23:36 <@Dagmar> That little bench over there?  Can it fit in my bags?  Gimme dat.
23:36 <@RangerZ> lol
23:37 <@oddball> oo! chair!
23:37 <@Dagmar> Anything not nailed down generally leaves with me
23:37 <@Dagmar> Into the nearest vendor it all goes
23:37 <@RangerZ> speaking of RPGs, fans of the Tales of ..... series will be interested in knowing that reserving Tales of Zesteria on steam gets you Tales of Symphonia
23:38 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcanum:_Of_Steamworks_and_Magick_Obscura
23:38 < PigBot> Title: Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
23:38 <@oddball> My most glorious of moments are when I steal from a vendor and sell it back to him.  Of course, after his repaired my gear.
23:38 <@oddball> Or, alternatively, sell him my shit, then steal it back.
23:38 <@RangerZ> in that game you could be a rat bastard... you could rob a vender blind by pick-pocketing his key to the warehouse... then sell him all his stuff back the next day
23:40 <@oddball> Although, my favorite use of the pickpocket skill will always be planting a lit grenade in someone's pockets in Fallout.
23:41 <@Dagmar> There's way too much freely available "other people's stuff" to even bother with robbing vendors in those
23:41 <@RangerZ> best story of 'pick pocketing' has to be from the first day of Ultima Online
23:42 <@Dagmar> Also, they invariably let us have a place that's as small as a two-room ranch house, where we store three or four Wal-Marts worth of "everything that wasn't nailed down"
23:42 <@RangerZ> someone pickpocketed a town guard and stole the level 100 or so scroll of lightning and then used it to kill Richard Garriott
23:42 <@RangerZ> then ran for his life and got banned
23:42 <@Dagmar> It's probably the fleeing that got him banned.
23:42 <@oddball> Dagmar: The drawers in that game are clearly built with Time Lord tech.
23:43 <@Dagmar> A smart player would do a celebration /dance on the spot and wait for Garriot to come back
23:43 <@Dagmar> oddball: You didn't even want to see what I did with the basement of one of those houses in Skyrim
23:43 <@oddball> heh
23:43 <@Dagmar> I literally buried the floor in precious gems
23:44 <@RangerZ> jesus... UPS has to hire ninjas
23:44 <@RangerZ> open my email >>> "left at front door"
23:44 <@RangerZ> ...wait ... what
23:44 <@oddball> I would be amused if a game had a percentage chance of "some random adventurer looted your house while you were away" and all your shit was gone.
23:45 <@RangerZ> FFXI had some special event like that
23:45 <@oddball> Annoyed if it happened to me, mind you, but it would be funny.
23:45 <@RangerZ> a moggle stole your free space
23:45 <@Dagmar> I would be amused to see them manage to haul it all off in one go
23:45 <@RangerZ> until you went to hunt them down
23:46 <@Dagmar> Yeah, moggles would starve to death on people like me
23:46 <@oddball> heh
23:46 <@Dagmar> In WoW I literally have a summonable guy who can run stuff to a mailbox for me, and anything that's not obviously trash gets mailed to a toon that hasn't seen the outside of Ironforge in over six eyars
23:46 <@oddball> Wait, they stole your free space?  How does that work?  Did they move in?
23:47 <@Dagmar> "Free space" is not a thing my characters have anymore after about level 20.  Heh
23:47 <@Dagmar> ...or basically, eight hours of play on _any_ game
23:48 <@Dagmar> In Skyrim, it's only stolen if there's someone left alive to say it's theirs
23:49 <@Dagmar> It's even easier in Fallout since basically, almost everyone wants to kill you for something or other
23:50 <@Dagmar> Tried to take kitty for a walk again today.
23:50 <@oddball> Hell, I nuked a town in Fallout 3 and still ended up finishing the game with good karma due to the number of slavers I killed.
23:50 <@Dagmar> It went a little better than last time, but still no tail-up.
23:50 <@Dagmar> She has very _clearly_ decided she's an indoor cat forever tho'
23:50 <@oddball> There are worse problems.
23:50 <@Dagmar> I have to keep a good grip on her when I open the front door because otherwise, she tries her best to skedaddle and hide.  hehe
23:51 <@Dagmar> She doesn't react to anything like that
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