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02:25 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: And better guns. Cops have access to grenade launchers, after all.
02:25 < _NSAKEY> If you're going to troll people about the need for militias, you might as well go all the way.
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:00 < aestetix> eins, zvai, drei, blitzkrieg, nazi, hitler, sieben....
08:00 < aestetix> I am learning german, slowly but surely
08:28 <@rattle> Fotze
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10:14 < NotLarry> Shh Dolemite...
11:09 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I think we'd do remarkably well with juat simple handguns if enough people had them, because we wildly outnumber the police
11:17 < aestetix> rattle: do you know anyone who would enjoy the identity conference in vienna?
11:17 < aestetix> I *really* want non-government folks to show up
11:21 < aestetix> win 3
11:21 < aestetix> oops
11:27 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I trust you saw me futzing with my VM server last night.  Disk caching is the only reason I could figure the whole thing didn't just fall over immediately.
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11:29 < aestetix> Dagmar: what happened?
11:30 <@Dagmar> The 8-year-old 500Gb WD drive all my VM images were on finally kicked the bucket
11:30 <@Dagmar> Completely stopped responding to the mainboard altogether.
11:30 <@Dagmar> I was trying to spin up a new VM and it was just really slow on disk writes... took almost 20 minutes to get halfway through installing Slackware to it
11:31 <@Dagmar> I started diagnosing and was seeing perfectly reasonable read speeds, but 11Mb/s writes
11:31 < aestetix> ouch
11:31 < aestetix> does the freezer trick still work?
11:31 <@Dagmar> Outside the VM... it became obvious real fast the disk was dead.  Heh
11:32 <@Dagmar> ALl those were disposables
11:32 <@Dagmar> The only thing I kept on the drive were the clones I'd instantate
11:40 <@rattle> aestetix: Who wouldn't enjoy that?  You comp'ing folks?  :)
11:42 < aestetix> rattle: if someone needs help, I'll see what I can do.
11:43 < aestetix> or were you being sarcastic
11:44 < aestetix> you don't know anyone through your fancy new gig?
11:52 < aestetix> Evilpig: how's life?
12:14 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: This is more about idle curiosity than anything else, since the drives didn't hold any unique data, but did you hear clicks of doom?
12:14 < _NSAKEY> It almost sounds like something with the logic board.
12:15 <@Dagmar> No, the drive just plain old wore out
12:15 <@Dagmar> I could probably replace the board and it would be fine
12:15 <@Dagmar> Writing more than a small number of sectors to it at once just makes it give up and die
12:15 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, but then you'd have to find that exact drive model and rob the logic board off of it.
12:15 < _NSAKEY> Hard drives are remarkably resilient.
12:16 <@Dagmar> ren0v0: Oh!  Reset it to defaults.  There should be a tiny button on the side somewhere
12:16 <@Dagmar> @#$@#
12:16 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$@#" is not a valid command.
12:16 < _NSAKEY> The only time I've had one go bad inside warranty was that one I told you about, where I dealt with the idiot "EasyTech Associate" at Staples.
12:17 < _NSAKEY> I'm still really sure that guy suffered from some form of actual brain damage, because of his "Let's re-install the OS over this clicking hard drive and bill you for it whether it works or not!"
12:17 < _NSAKEY> s/his/his idea to fix it which consisted of/
12:17 < _NSAKEY> I'm still waking up.
12:18 <@oddball> I did once have a Dell support tech tell me that that clicking could be solved with a firmware update.
12:18 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Now I wonder if the defective human from Staples has a relative who works at Dell.
12:19 <@oddball> heh
12:19 < _NSAKEY> I absolutely will not shop at Staples now unless they're the only source for something.
12:19 < _NSAKEY> I'd rather give money to Walmart.
12:20 <@oddball> wow
12:21 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, that asshat actually lied about HP's warranty for defective hard drives.
12:21 < _NSAKEY> He said they wouldn't ship drives, and that I was better off just buying a drive from them for $99 and paying another $150 to let them install it.
12:21 < _NSAKEY> He and his manager didn't have a lot to say when I walked back in with HP's warranty printed out, with the relevant passages highlighted.
12:22 <@oddball> heh
12:23 < _NSAKEY> Office Depot wasn't much better, except that they were never smart/evil enough to remake the geek squad in their own image.
12:23 < _NSAKEY> The one on Murfreesboro Rd wanted to give me a bunch of grief over a computer once.
12:23 <@oddball> I don't know.  They're now advertising computer repair services.
12:23 < _NSAKEY> It was some $300 piece of shit that wasn't worth tossing in a bonfire in Africa or China.
12:23 < _NSAKEY> It still runs, and my opinion of it has not improved.
12:24 < _NSAKEY> The kid I dealt with tried selling me on "PC optimization."
12:24 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm sure they get a lot of pressure to sell that.
12:24 < _NSAKEY> I don't know if these places still push that particular "value add" or whatever, since I don't buy store-bought computers regularly.
12:25 < _NSAKEY> But, I trolled the kid really badly.
12:25 <@oddball> I know I got a lot of pressure to sell those stupid extended warranties when I worked at Office Depot years ago.
12:25 < _NSAKEY> "Ok, I run Gentoo. If I buy your PC optimization service, does that mean you're going to custom-compile everything from source for my exact hardware config? Because that would be a wonderful thing to pay for."
12:25 <@oddball> heh
12:26 < _NSAKEY> I think he told the manager, because they were really shitty with me at the counter.
12:26 < _NSAKEY> It was basically, "Do you want the extended warranty?"
12:26 < _NSAKEY> "No."
12:26 < _NSAKEY> "You can't get a refund if you don't get one, you can only trade it in for the same model, and that's the last one we've got."
12:26 < _NSAKEY> The tone was clearly venomous.
12:27 < _NSAKEY> I can't remember what I told him, but it was to the effect that I didn't exactly give a shit.
12:28 < _NSAKEY> Heh, uh oh.
12:28 < _NSAKEY> http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2015/10/08/alleged-airline-hackers-denver-company-files-for.html
12:28 < PigBot`> Title: Alleged airline hacker's Denver company files for bankruptcy - Denver Business Journal (at www.bizjournals.com)
12:28 < _NSAKEY> There must not be any money in flying planes sideways. Who knew?
12:37 <@Dagmar> I suspect after the incident, "word got around" and people started doubting if they should be paying consulting money like that
12:37 <@Dagmar> Or they might have just been failing for awhile and only how had to file
12:42 < _NSAKEY> The latter is probably the case.
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12:52 <@rattle> I have no desire to be seen as a partisan, but it's never been more clear that the house Republicans are completely incapable of governance.  This is pathetic.
12:53 <@Dagmar> That's not partisan.  That's observation of facts showing an overwhelming problem.
12:54 < _NSAKEY> The deeper problem is that a lot of those guys were elected based on a platform that might as well consist of not having a clue what they're doing, and being roadblocks to anything getting done by Congress.
12:55 <@rattle> Boehner gave the caucus more than enough time to select their next leader.  This is pathetic.
12:56 < _NSAKEY> But rattle, isn't an unruly mass of people swearing to "Stop the Obama agenda" good enough?!?!?!
12:56 < _NSAKEY> Who needs or wants structure?
12:56  * brimstone 
12:57 <@rattle> I don't disagree with any of that..
12:59 < _NSAKEY> brimstone: Did you get my e-mail?
12:59 <@rattle> Pope Francis's address to Congress hit me on a deeply personal level. He said things I was very happy to hear said in front of that body. I sure as hell hope the ideas there are what's behind this crisis, rather than sheer imcompitance.
13:02 <@Dagmar> I *do* like that guy
13:02 <@rattle> After all, the Speaker is third in line of succession for commander-in-chief.  This is not small shit.
13:02 <@rattle> I *really* like that guy.
13:02 <@Dagmar> One of my staunch atheist people were bitching about him interrupting programming
13:03 <@Dagmar> I found myself in the odd role of defending the pope (for a change)
13:03 <@rattle> Yeah, I know.  It's weird, right?
13:03 <@Dagmar> __heisenbug: Well it could be almost any type of executeable, but it's usually a text file.  Depends on what the distro wanted to do
13:03 <@Dagmar> @#$@
13:03 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$@" is not a valid command.
13:03 <@brimstone> _NSAKEY: i did!
13:04 <@Dagmar> rattle: Yeah, he's doing very little preaching of the "GOD SEZ DO THIS" sort and is _way_ more focused on genuinely humanitarian goals
13:04 <@Dagmar> I can get behind that
13:05 <@Dagmar> That's the sort fo thing that might actually keep organized Christianity from dying out
13:06 <@rattle> We need more world leaders like that.  I think he's showing an example . . that's just fucking amazing.  It doesn't have shit to do with the church.  True moral leadership should trancend all that shit, and I think he gets that.
13:07 <@Dagmar> Damn skippy
13:08 <@rattle> He's not perfect..  But damn..  We could use way more leaders like him.
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13:10 <@rattle> I'm sort of stunned I have such warm feelings toward the Pope, but I really do...
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13:16 < aestetix> uh
13:16 < aestetix> The pope is great
13:16 < aestetix> He's the best thing to happen to the chufch since..... JP2
13:20 < aestetix> Dagmar: do you actually see Christianity dying out anytime soon?
13:20 <@Dagmar> A few hundred years or so
13:20 <@Dagmar> _One way or another_
13:20 < aestetix> What would replace it?
13:20 < aestetix> Besides islam
13:21 <@Dagmar> Whatever the cockroaches decide to do, probably.
13:21 < aestetix> I mean, they DID survive the reformation
13:21 < aestetix> sort of
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15:57 <@Dagmar> Ooo!  Season 2 of The Originals fially hit Netflix
16:02 <@crash180> Never seen it
16:03 <@Dagmar> It's not bad.
16:03 <@Dagmar> They manage to combine werewolves and vampires without making me want to kill _everyone_ involved for being pussies.
16:03 <@crash180> oh, yeah. I have seen that
16:04 <@crash180> Nevermind. My Wife loves the show. So, I watch it whenever she watches it
16:04 <@Dagmar> It's basically the _only_ storyline short of the Russian 'Night Watch' movies
16:04 <@crash180> It is a pretty interesting take on Werewolves vs Vampires vs Witches
16:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  No fuckin' campiness while trying to pretend to be serious
16:13 <@Evilpig> It's pretty high drama
16:13 <@crash180> True
16:13 <@Evilpig> and dag, i've had it on my ftp/plex for a long ass time
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16:37 <@Dagmar> YEah but you know I don't pirate anything I dont' absolutely have to
16:37 <@Dagmar> I've just been waiting for it to finally get updated on Netflix
16:38 <@Dagmar> If I watched everyrhing that struck my fancy in it's entirety I wouldn't get a lot of work done
17:18 < aestetix> man
17:18 < aestetix> I just took a lot of shit for asking why trans is ok but tranny is not
17:35 <@Dagmar> Because they've decided they don't like certain words and what everyelse else thinks or means doesn't matter.
17:36 <@Dagmar> Give it time, and some of them will decide that 'trans' is a bad word, too.
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17:52 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: In Berlin, or on the internet?
18:02 < aestetix> on the internet
18:02 < aestetix> in Berlin nobody tolerates that shit
18:25 <@Dagmar> In person it's seldom tolerated because in person it's much more obvious that one of the parties is refusing to attempt to communicate productively
18:26 <@Dagmar> In person the party willfully presuming malice gets told to fuck off for their thick-headedness  usually
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19:14 <@klixa> anyone know anything about this? a friend of mine is having this issue "whois record nameservers don't match where the site is obviously hosted. No evidence of redirecting."
19:46 <@Dagmar> wow
19:46 <@Dagmar> THe kitty is a bit of a fraidy cat
19:49 <@oddball> hiding from the TV?
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19:49 <@Dagmar> Nah.  I took her outside and the moment she saw the cat from next door... PANIC
19:49 <@Evilpig> klixa: that's pretty normal if you fucked up your info at your registrar
19:49 <@Dagmar> It took several minutes with her basically perched on my shoulder to calm her down
19:49 <@oddball> Ah, yeah... that's not unusual.
19:50 <@Dagmar> I  got her outide, managed to walk her around a bit
19:50 <@Dagmar> She was nervous about _everything_.  Tail stayed low the entire time
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19:50 <@Dagmar> We'll have another go tomorrow until she gets used to it
19:51 <@Dagmar> She's definitely a city cat.  Heheh
19:51 <@Dagmar> She wanted to explore on the asphalt, not the grass
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19:58 <@Dagmar> The adrenaline from being outside made her just run around like mad when we got back inside. heheh
19:59 <@klixa> Evilpig: ok thanks
20:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: ...and now she's stretched out in my lap in a rather undignified way, but calm again
20:02 <@oddball> heh
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22:48 < RangerZ|SillyVal> ugh...
22:49 < RangerZ|SillyVal> 12hour+ days at coursera is one hell of a way to spend your week... lol
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23:06 < RangerZ|SillyVal> damn scoob, your connection is like how mine was , lol
23:07 < scoob> nah
23:07 < scoob> working on something
23:10 < RangerZ|SillyVal> don't worry btw.... I'm taking my 30minute showers out here in cali for everyone ;)
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