--- Log opened Sun Oct 04 00:00:25 2015 00:39 <@RangerZ> unless you're a college age girl with the peach accent... then *shrugs* lol (about the only American accent I find nice) lol 00:39 < scoob> on the internet nobody knows you're a dog 00:41 <@RangerZ> what's the 4chan saying.... 00:41 <@RangerZ> The internet where the guys are guys, the girls are guys, and the teens are fbi agents 02:14 <@RangerZ> http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-new-california-racial-profiling-bill-hailed-criticized-20151003-story.html 02:14 < PigBot> Title: Racial profiling bills draw praise from activists, criticism from police - LA Times (at www.latimes.com) 02:15 <@RangerZ> so... that's gonna be interesting 02:15 <@RangerZ> as "pro-union" as I am... I think the FOP needs to get off its ass and stop protecting assholes and actually try to "protect and SERVE" 02:55 <@Dagmar> Definitely 02:56 <@Dagmar> It's not doing them any favors to keep protecting the minority of thuggish assholes 02:57 <@RangerZ> if 'only' 1 in 10 cops are dicks.... 02:58 <@RangerZ> and that behavior leads to deaths or harassment....we shouldn't accept it.... just as we wouldn't accept 1 in 10 dentists drilling through people's cheeks or tongues 03:01 <@Dagmar> Mortie apparently really loves cheese 03:02 <@Dagmar> I brought one of those beef & cheese snacks home with me 03:02 <@Dagmar> I put it on the desk and put her in my lap... Normally she'll stay in my lap for hours 03:02 <@Dagmar> She got up on the desk and got a good sniff at it, and now i can't keep her off the desk hehe 03:06 <@RangerZ> nice 03:07 <@Dagmar> The treats I got her, purely out of luck, are chicken and cheese flavored and she's wild about them, too 03:08 <@Dagmar> I can't get her to hold still long enough to squirt her pain meds into her mouth, so I just get two of those out and put a drop of it on each one 03:09 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure from her behaviour she's no longer in any pain from the spaying, but there's one more dose left for tomorrow and MY BABY WILL NOT BE HURTING 03:09 <@Dagmar> Weird. Someone apparently comitted an armed robbery of the GameStop in Madison 03:10 <@RangerZ> odd 03:13 <@RangerZ> Saturday -is- the best time to rob it... but... its not the holiday season yet... wait... nvm... how dare I try to use logic about someone stupid enough to do armed robbery 03:13 <@RangerZ> don't they know working on wall street is much easier? 03:13 <@Dagmar> Way less chance of ever going to jail, too 03:27 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 08:18 < aestetix> Is there any modern day William F Buckley? 08:47 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@ec2-52-6-16-39.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:47 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@mail.chavaleh.net] has joined #se2600 08:49 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dcirjhyhwbbaeaoo] has joined #se2600 09:34 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:45 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3ng8za/japanese_live_streamer_accidentally_burns_his/ 12:55 < _NSAKEY> Please tell me "penis" is cut off in that URL. 12:56 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 12:57 < _NSAKEY> This GIF sums it up well: https://i.imgur.com/x0lm2Eg.gif 13:39 <@Dagmar> Oh my gawd 13:40 <@Dagmar> He literally just keeps adding more flammables 13:55 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:06 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I couldn't watch more than a few seconds of it. It was just too painfully stupid to watch. 15:08 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:18 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:18 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:24 <@Dagmar> Dude you really do need to watch it all 15:24 <@Dagmar> If he'd just _stopped_ at any point, it might have simply burned itself out. 15:27 <@Dagmar> ...or if he'd, you know... USED THE FUCKING ZIPPO 15:30 -!- chz160_ [~chz160@c-68-53-146-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32 -!- rhia_ [~rhia@173.85.104.5] has joined #se2600 15:32 -!- rhia [~rhia@173.85.104.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56 < aestetix> haha 15:56 < aestetix> yeah that guy was.... special 15:59 < aestetix> Dagmar: that video really is a great example of what not to do. 15:59 < aestetix> Like, they could show it in a fire safety class. 16:05 <@Dagmar> I was actually explaining to a fireman how to download YouTube videos because of that 16:54 <@Dagmar> thms: Whatever the vendor says it requires, basically. 16:54 <@Dagmar> !@#$!# 17:30 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: clipconverter.cc 17:30 < RangerZ1> easiest way to let non-tech people do it 17:31 < RangerZ1> (that I've found so far) there is even a plugin for chrome/ff that will put a button on youtube that auto-populates the fields for them on a new page of this site 17:34 <@Dagmar> I just use a plugin for Firefox that is remarkably unconcerned about copyright flags. 17:36 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: What's the name of that plugin? 17:37 < _NSAKEY> I just use quvi, and get 403ed if I try to download certain videos. 17:38 <@Dagmar> Video Downloadhelper 17:58 <@Dagmar> I should not laugh but... 17:58 <@Dagmar> Mortie was _really_ fascinated by the Roomba, since this is two nights in a row she's accidentally turned it on 17:59 <@Dagmar> I just started it for real, and she was watching it, and kept getting closer and closer to it 17:59 <@Dagmar> ...and then it turned around and headed straight for her. 17:59 <@Dagmar> She backed up as far as the wall and then "NOPENOPENOENOPENOPENOPE" ran to the other end of the apartment 18:08 <@Dagmar> Maybe I shoudln't have told Mortie it loves the taste of cat fur 18:40 <@oddball> heh 18:41 <@oddball> Dear anti-gunners: if you're going to call me out by name to join your argument, you better fucking bring your A game. 18:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah I've seen way too much bullshit this week 18:42 <@Dagmar> I don't blame you at all 18:42 <@Dagmar> All the people rambling about crazy shooters mean we need moar gun control can go eat a bag of dicks 18:43 <@oddball> I had an Australian friend call me out. I don't think he expected me to respond with an essay full of facts. 19:00 < _NSAKEY> oddball: They never expect that. 19:01 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Did you even get to point out the facts of Anders Brevik's rampage? 19:03 <@oddball> nope 19:04 < _NSAKEY> I always find that one fun to bring out to the heavily anti-gun crowd. 19:04 <@oddball> They went with the whole "Australia is so much safer because we banned guns." 19:04 <@oddball> I laid out a large amount of evidence showing that that's bullshit. 19:05 < _NSAKEY> Bullshit. No amount of ammunition is going to kill all the venomous spiders and other random things Australia has. 19:05 <@oddball> heh 19:05 < _NSAKEY> I read about that once, and it sounds like an entire continent that's worse than my grandmother's old house. 19:05 < _NSAKEY> It had brown recluses tucked away everywhere. 19:06 <@oddball> And it's pretty hard to argue that more guns == more violence when there's 63% more guns in the US since '93, and we've cut our homicide rate in half since then. 19:07 < _NSAKEY> I knew it had dropped hard, coincidentally since the babies legally aborted since Roe v Wade would have started becoming teenagers... 19:08 < _NSAKEY> But didn't know the 63% figure. 19:08 < _NSAKEY> There's also the lead theory, which is interesting because it seems so out of left field. 19:13 <@oddball> yep 19:16 <@klixa> lead theory? 19:17 < _NSAKEY> klixa: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline 19:18 < _NSAKEY> There have been arguments against it, of course. 19:18 <@Dagmar> Australia also did not ban guns. 19:18 <@Dagmar> They banned automatic weaponry in 93, and started a buyback program for any guns people wanted to get rid of 19:18 <@Dagmar> It dropped the _suicide_ rates. 19:19 <@Dagmar> If they really want to reduce the gun homocide rates in the US, they'll have to stop fucking around and give people a reason to actually participate in the economy instead of saying "Fuck it, I'll be in debt forever, might as well rob someone" 19:20 <@Dagmar> At the moment, we are absolutely _shit_ at that. 19:20 <@Dagmar> We'd do better to outlaw 'NoLimit Records' than to outlaw all guns 19:22 < _NSAKEY> We'd do better to permanently banish all the big bankers to great Pacific garbage patch and Mr Robot their companies. 19:22 <@Dagmar> That would work wonders as well I suspect 19:25 <@oddball> Dagmar: They banned all but manually operated rifles and shotguns (bolt action/lever action/pump action), and those are registered and *tightly* controled. They recently shat their pants when someone introduced a pump action shotgun with a very short throw lever. 19:26 <@oddball> And the "buy back" was a forced thing. You turned them in or went to jail. Those guns were destroyed. 19:26 <@Dagmar> I was working from a Washington Post article 19:26 <@oddball> Oh... and they had a nifty gun registry, so they already knew who owned them. 19:26 <@Dagmar> Either way, they did it in response to an actual shooting spree where someone was serious about it actually killed 35 people 19:27 <@oddball> yup 19:27 <@Dagmar> ...and that person actually sprayed bullets from a full-auto weapon into people 19:27 <@oddball> And folks have been saying "this is what Australia did. We should be like them." 19:27 <@oddball> Oh, and they claim that they haven't had a mass shooting since, which is just factually wrong. 19:28 <@Dagmar> Also, our police shoot more citizens than Australians shoot each other 19:29 <@Dagmar> Being that stopping that shit is hte precise reason we have guns, I'm not amenable to getting rid of them 20:11 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dcirjhyhwbbaeaoo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:28 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 21:40 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-180-8-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:50 < RangerZ1> interesting history of the writing of the 2nd amendment, apparently the 'well regulated militia' part was intended the way that gun control people generally speak of it, but NOT for the reason they think it is 21:50 < RangerZ1> apparently the original draft had the militias being federally controlled 21:51 < RangerZ1> slave states were against this because they wanted the militia to be state controlled, IE, not controlled by the federal gov't so that the fed. gov't can't cut off funding when the states start to use them to quell slave revolts 21:52 < RangerZ1> which is what they did, (as the north put down a couple revolts with them too about whiskey tax and a few other things) 21:53 < RangerZ1> so the slave states wanted the militia to be armed (funded by the state) and the 3/5ers to not 21:55 <@oddball> There was also the fact that the original make up of the US had the states having a hell of a lot more power than they do now. I would say that it's closer to the current state of the EU than the current state of the US. 21:55 < RangerZ1> land owning male citizens owning guns never really entered the debate, it was more about not preventing state militia not being prevent from owning arms 21:56 < RangerZ1> not that any of this is -really relevant- anymore, but an interesting aside of history 21:56 <@oddball> Up to and including the fact that the Fed would depend on the individual states to actual raise and maintain armed forces. The fed would be the leadership of the military, but the lower level would be state run. 21:56 -!- RangerZ1 is now known as RangerZ 21:57 <@oddball> Right. The 14th amendment fucked up all sorts of things. :p 21:57 < RangerZ> acutally the original draft allows the fed. gov't to raise an army 21:57 < RangerZ> and 'requires it' 21:57 < RangerZ> same with navy 21:58 < RangerZ> funding of which was mostly tarrifs 21:58 < RangerZ> but the 'funding' question wasn't (still isn't) addressed, other than allowing income tax via.... 17th amendment? 21:59 < RangerZ> sorry 16th 21:59 <@oddball> Oh, right. sorry. Forgot about that. Although, it would have to constantly vote on renewing the funding. 22:00 < RangerZ> nah 22:00 < RangerZ> that's just our current system being fucked 22:00 < RangerZ> there is NOTHING preventing a budget being passed for 20 years 22:00 < RangerZ> other than laws 22:01 < RangerZ> and honestly that's what 'continuing resolutions' are 22:01 < RangerZ> 'kick the can down the road' b/c the fucking 'hastard rule' 22:01 <@oddball> true 22:02 < RangerZ> one of the biggest reasons we can't get bills passed unless it's a crisis is b/c of that fucking notion 22:02 < RangerZ> that Republicans won't allow a vote on a bill until 50% of the REPUBLICANS approve of it 22:02 < RangerZ> I'm sorry, but that's actually anti-American IMHO 22:02 < RangerZ> and I mean that in the -literal- sense 22:03 < RangerZ> it hurts America.... if you don't AGREE with a bill, then vote it down, don't fucking play games with 'rules' to prevent it from being passed 22:03 <@oddball> I'll agree with you on that. 22:03 < RangerZ> but if 1/3 of Republicans AGREE with Democrats ( and whoever else) about a bill... just let it come up for a vote 22:04 < RangerZ> that's what just happened with bohner allowing the budget until december 22:04 < RangerZ> he didn't do ANYTHING special other than say "I'm bringing this to a vote" 22:04 <@oddball> I've also seen plenty of state level bills get assigned to comitees for bullshit reaasons because the speaker knew that he could make the bill die there. 22:05 < RangerZ> state level is a lot more complex b/c each state has different rules, so... I can't say as 100% for sure 22:05 < RangerZ> but yes 22:05 <@oddball> Well, just saying that there are various bullshit mechanisms that the leaders use to get their way. 22:07 <@oddball> example: the open carry without a permit bill got put into the ways and means commitee because they got the Department of Safety to say that it would mean that they would have to redesign the carry permit cards... even though the bill specifically stated that there was no need to make such a change. 22:13 <@oddball> Of course, the next year it actually got to the floor and was voted down... 22:14 < scoob> hey, I actually reserved a room 22:14 < scoob> itshappening.mov 22:14 <@oddball> woohoo! 22:25 < _NSAKEY> scoob: Did you give them the group code? 22:25 < scoob> nope, I'll call and add it 22:25 < _NSAKEY> It's "NASHVILLE2600" 22:26 < scoob> I'll see if I can somehow remember that 22:26 < scoob> may be worth putting it up top of the page where it links to the hotel 22:27 < scoob> just btw 22:28 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I'm actually going over the beta dir for the site and fixing ben's typos. 22:28 < _NSAKEY> It's funny that you brought this up... Because there are only like, 2 instances of the group code, and 0 instances of the hotel's phone number anywhere on the site. 22:29 < _NSAKEY> I blame it on ben being overworked. 22:30 < _NSAKEY> I'm probably going to make a "Hotel" section and just rip off what wilpig did here: http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn17/hotel 22:30 < PigBot> Title: PhreakNIC17 :: The early edition (at archive.phreaknic.info) 22:48 <@Dagmar> wtf is going on with my mythtv box 22:48 <@Dagmar> It's got space, but it already nuked the Fear The Walking Dead recording from last night _and_ the Doctor Who from last night 23:17 <@Evilpig> http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn16/hotel 23:17 < PigBot> Title: Phreaknic16 :: Hotel Informaion (at archive.phreaknic.info) 23:28 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I copied the info from the PN17 page, since it hurts my eyes less. 23:28 < _NSAKEY> It's on the beta site, for ben to review and push out. --- Log closed Mon Oct 05 00:00:27 2015