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02:08 <@Dagmar> Oh you are shitting me
02:08 <@Dagmar> They're bringing X-FILES BACK?!?!
02:28 < aestetix> apparently there is a new iphone out
02:35 <@Dagmar> OMG IT TAKES PICTURES THAT MOVE IM SO EXCITED
02:36 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I think they're just fucking with their customer base with that one
02:36 <@Dagmar> What'll they "invent" next... 24-bit color displays?
02:37 <@Dagmar> Perhaps photos that "remember where you took them"
02:38 <@Dagmar> Five bucks sez there's a "Harry Potter Camera" app within the year
02:39 < aestetix> And there is also something called Apple Pencil
02:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah I thought that was Onion coverage at first
02:41 < aestetix> I never take photos, and don't understand why someone would.
02:42 < aestetix> wait live photos....
02:42 < aestetix> that is really something they are hyping?
02:42 <@Dagmar> Yep.
02:43 < aestetix> Haven't we had that for a while? Called "video"?
02:43 <@Dagmar> Yep.
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07:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:04 <@Dagmar> Kitten day!
08:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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11:19 <@Evilpig> I swear.  fuck word press
11:39 <@CRasH180> This is how I feel about Evernote most days
11:41 < aestetix> I don't know which is more annoying: all these "groundbreaking" stupid webapp widget startups, or the fact that the employees all call each other brilliant
11:41 <@Evilpig> fuck.  so when the caching plugin is causing some shit and isn't throwing an error
11:43 <@Evilpig> it would help if I was looking at the right error log...
11:47  * aestetix farts
11:50 <@Evilpig> well I have something going right.  current page load on their exisiting server 8seconds.  new server .8 seconds
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11:55 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Dunno which module you're working with, but wp-supercache used to work nicely.   Haven't used it recently.   https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-super-cache/
11:55 < PigBot> Title: WordPress WP Super Cache « WordPress Plugins (at wordpress.org)
11:56 <@CRasH180> Does the Super Cache wear a cape?
11:57 <@Evilpig> Mirage: I have supercache working but the plugin rights in general aren't right so it says it can't remove plugins
11:57 < aestetix> oh wow
11:57 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/3mstj1/the_hacker_dead_addict_and_crew_from_defcon_one/
11:57 < PigBot> Title: The hacker "Dead Addict" and crew from DefCon One in 1992 : OldSchoolCool (at www.reddit.com)
11:57 < aestetix> I should send him an email and let him know he's reddit old school cool :p
11:58 <@Evilpig> I'm using this one to try to remove but it tells me it doesn't have rights and wnats to use an ftp client.
11:58 <@Evilpig> 4.0K drwxrwxr-x  5 wilbur apache 4.0K Sep 28 20:46 free-counter
11:58 <@oddball> I just... what?  There's a Cracked article where the guy claims that District 9 was a pro-aparteid flick.  What movie was he watching?
11:58 <@oddball> And.... Star Trek  is racist.
11:59 <@Evilpig> star trek is racist against people that wear red shirts
11:59 <@Mirage> Evilpig: yeah, I had to do some minor reconfiguration to change the path for the static HTML generation location in order to work with permissions and mod-security.
12:00 <@Evilpig> I don't have mod-security on this box
12:01 <@Mirage> fail
12:01 <@Evilpig> I can add it later.  trying to get the initial problems fixed first
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12:04 <@Mirage> I believe that we redirected the cache to use var/www/<site>/offline/cache instead of the normal default so that it was under the webroot, but not under HTML so that we could better manage the permissions since it wants fairly broad perms to work properly.
12:04 <@Mirage> That way you don't have to directly expose a chmod 777 dir to the internet
12:05 <@Evilpig> I don't have any 777
12:05 <@Evilpig> the directory for the cache is 775
12:05 <@oddball> You mean, you're not supposed to just 777 the entire box? :p
12:05 <@Evilpig> oddball: it is running wordpress so that is the fastest fix for it
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12:23 <@brimstone> _NSAKEY: i read the blurbs :)
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12:43 <@brimstone> what's the room rate suppose to be?
12:44 < aestetix> hahahahh
12:44 < aestetix> twitter.com/snowden
13:01 <@Evilpig> brimstone: probably $80
13:01 <@brimstone> it's $0
13:01 <@brimstone> or $80
13:01 <@brimstone> your pick
13:01 <@brimstone> found it on the website
13:02 <@brimstone> got two doubles thursday -> sunday
13:02 <@brimstone> lady asked if i was with a group
13:02 <@brimstone> i said "Nashville 2600" she said "oooooohhhhhhh"
13:02 <@brimstone> then simply "phreaknic"
13:03 <@Evilpig> I think i'm about to take my bag and go hide somewhere in this building that isn't the factory
13:09 <@brimstone> Factory()
13:11 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/Y34FVBCBp6GdYheh8
13:12 <@Evilpig> y! has this weird window covering that is partly translucent, partly reflective, and multicolored depending on how you look at it
13:37 <@Evilpig> ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!  GOD DAMNIT
13:38 < NotLarry> Pregnant woman walking down the hall points at my cast and goes "break your foot?"  I point at her belly and say "broke your hymen?"  Scheduling my meeting with HR as we speak.
13:38 <@Evilpig> the answer was to edit wp-config.php and force it to use local methods instead of the stupid ftp
13:38 <@Evilpig> vi wp-config.php  and add:
13:38 <@Evilpig> define('FS_METHOD','direct');
13:38 <@Evilpig>  /** sets up 'direct' method for wordpress, autoupdate without ftp */
13:40 < NotLarry> brimstone: We don't need 2 doubles...
13:40 <@brimstone> one's for our bags
13:41 <@brimstone> can't leave them on the floor
13:41 <@brimstone> are you bringing your monitors?
13:42 < NotLarry> Sure
13:42 < NotLarry> Trying to figure out how to get them on the bike.
13:46 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: did I do this right?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rulzolqrmevfadz/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-29%20at%201.45.59%20PM.png?dl=0
13:48 <@Evilpig> and people wonder why their shit runs like ass.  they have 20 or so plugins added to word press and half of them aren't configured
13:48 <@Evilpig> this thing is adding code for google analytics and they don't even have an analytics account
13:50 < NotLarry> Evilpig: Yup, you did.
13:53 <@Mirage> This this is an approriate response to someone having an issue with trying to install old/outdated packages on Linux?
13:53 <@Mirage> "The situation they are creating for themselves is what we like to refer to as .dependency hell. because it.s a nightmare of Dante.s Inferno proportions to resolve all the versioning issues of all installed software when trying to force older versions."
13:54 <@Mirage> They are trying to install older versions (RHEL 6.4) of core libraries and devel packages on a freshly deployed RHEL 6.7 system.
13:57 <@Evilpig> nice....
13:57 <@Evilpig> for the purpose of what application?
13:57 <@Mirage> Oracle RAC
13:58 <@Mirage> Knowing Oracle, even though it's certified to run on Oracle Enterprise Linux 6.7, they only certify actual RH releases as of 3 years ago.
14:06 < aestetix> Evilpig: I'm impressed
14:06 < aestetix> using vi instead of vim
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14:06 <@Mirage> aestetix: ever heard of a symlink?
14:06 < aestetix> heh
14:10 <@Evilpig> aestetix: vi is indeed just an alias for vim
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14:24 <@Evilpig> btw I just saw your layout for pn19.  with registration there you have no place to stash shirts and shit
14:25 <@Evilpig> and you're gonna have the right side of that room getting noise from the folks next door.  you shoudl turn that to face the pool to limit the noise to the back of the room
14:33 <@Evilpig> gotta love the internet at the dc.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/dz742vwiu13glb9/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-29%20at%202.32.36%20PM.png?dl=0
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14:56 <@Mirage> God this dev is "special"...still insisting that the 6.4 packages are not available on Satellite because they can't install them.
14:57 <@Mirage> Response #3: "Those rpms are already available, but are old/outdated versions.  To clarify.they do NOT need to be added as they are already there.   You cannot install most of them, though, because a newly deployed system has newer package versions of some required software installed which cannot be rolled back to older versions.
14:57 <@Mirage> maybe that will sink in...
15:20 <@CRasH180> good luck with that
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15:49 <@Dagmar> Damn the amount of paper Metro generates on adopted strays is kinda crazy
15:50 <@Dagmar> There's like two piece of paper showing I exit
15:50 <@Dagmar> er exist
15:50 <@Dagmar> NINE for a kitten
15:50 <@Dagmar> She's chipped and has been given some shots and tested for things
15:50 <@Mirage> Awww, did you adopt a kitten?
15:51 <@Dagmar> I just gotta wait until they spay her before I can pick her up on thursdau
15:51 <@Dagmar> er Thursday
15:51 <@Mirage> Dagmar's gonna be a parent!
15:51 <@Dagmar> https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/33330972 <-- this little 'un
15:51 < PigBot> Title: Meet MORTICIA, a Petfinder adoptable Domestic Medium Hair Cat | Nashville, TN (at www.petfinder.com)
15:52 <@Mirage> Got the domain registered, page running, and camera setup for the KittyKam yet?
15:52 <@Dagmar> I'll leave that sort of thing to Jeff Preston
15:53 <@Dagmar> He's one of hte ScootNashville guys and he's literally doing just that
15:54 <@Dagmar> Several cats in the house and several webcame to watch them with
15:56 <@Mirage> User is complaining that the compiler is failing on one of their systems.  Log in and check..somehow a RHEL 6.6 box is running a 6.5 kernel (kernel-2.6.32-358.el6.x86_64) and RHEL7 headers (kernel-headers-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64)
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15:56 <@Dagmar> it's surprising the thing just didn't tell them to fuck off
15:56 <@Dagmar> 'cuz damn
15:57 <@Mirage> I'm dumbfounded by the fact that RHEL6 alowed even installing a RHEL7 signed rpm
15:58 <@Dagmar> Truth
15:58 <@Dagmar> Someone worked hard at fucking that box up
16:00 <@Mirage> This isn't even the same people that were trying to force install 6.4 rpms (glibc, elf-utils, libaio, compat-libcap) onto a 6.6 host.
16:01 <@Dagmar> This place you're working at is starting to sound like a lot of fun.  hehe
16:03 <@Mirage> Let me know if you decide to move to DFW.
16:03 <@Mirage> BTW, there are lots and lots (and lots) of portals here
16:03 <@Dagmar> Centennial Park is basically a standing L8 ENL farm all the time now
16:04 <@Dagmar> ~100 portals or so
16:04 <@Dagmar> Res still can't figure out what a triangle looks like
16:04 <@Dagmar> I just got my onyx Translator
16:13  * CRasH180 is confused
16:13 <@CRasH180> What is a L8 ENL?
16:14 <@Dagmar> ENL == Enlightenment faction. i.e., the _right_ faction for smart people
16:14 <@Dagmar> L8 == level 8, highest level deployment possible
16:14 <@Dagmar> We've basically unlocked unlimited ammo for everyone in the city, and the other guys still can't shoot.
16:14 <@CRasH180> hmmm
16:15 <@CRasH180> Not sure what to think about that
16:15 <@Dagmar> The game client has a cap on inventory of 2,000 items, and I can make three laps around the park and fill it
16:16 <@Dagmar> If you have a smartphone and aren't underweight or crippled, you should check out Ingress
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19:46 <@RangerZ> especially if you are -over-weight
19:46 <@RangerZ> lol
19:47 <@RangerZ> plus it's the same tech as what is going to back the new Pokemon Go
19:48 <@RangerZ> and how else will you be able to watch Dagmar sit somewhere and make little children and grown adults both cry at the same time because of his shenanigans ? lol
20:08 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/UTv5VzupQGzg8kvPA
20:11 < NotLarry> looks very tasty
20:11 < NotLarry> Is that near my next job?
20:12 <@Evilpig> it's here in lockport
20:12 <@Evilpig> they have real sweet tea too
20:12 <@Evilpig> I got "sweet tea" from applebees yesterday... I don't know what that was, but it wasn't sweet tea
21:13 <@oddball> It wasn't vaugely tea flavored sugar water?
21:14 <@Evilpig> it was weird.  it might have been that brisk thing they call tea
21:28 <@oddball> ah
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22:25 <@Dagmar> THe more I think about it the more I suspect it might be time to prepare a pressie about "Docker: Threat or Menace?"
22:32 <@oddball> huh? Docker?
22:37 <@Dagmar> Oh we'll talk about it at the meeting
22:37 <@Dagmar> From the discussions about it in ##Linux, it's very clear who actually manages public-facing systems and who doesn't
22:37 <@Dagmar> It's a "clever" tool being used for really stupid shit
22:38 <@oddball> ah
22:38 <@Dagmar> Rather than actually keep shit up to date, or worry about pesky little things like dependencies, people are using Docker to put copies of entire toolchains into containers
22:38 <@Dagmar> ...where they will probably never be updated again.
22:39 <@Dagmar> Mirage: How do you feel about people perhaps keeping their own private copies of PHP 5.1 inside your properly patched servers?
22:40 <@Dagmar> trololol
22:42 <@oddball> oh... that would be bad.
22:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah
22:48 <@Dagmar> ...and from stalking the Docker forums a bit and seeing the problems people are having with Docker on IRC, it's starting to look like this will be the majority use-case
22:49 <@Dagmar> Folks who want to avoid having the people actually responsible for keeping their servers healthy from being able to do their jobs
22:51 <@Dagmar> I need to find some drugs or somethin'
22:52 <@Dagmar> Having to wait until Thursday to get my furbaby is going to drive me nuts
22:52 <@oddball> Kitty at the vet?
22:53 <@Dagmar> Kitty still at the shelter
22:53 <@oddball> ah... new kitty
22:53 <@Dagmar> They require they be spayed/neutered before you can have 'em
22:53 <@Dagmar> BRAND new kitty
22:53 <@oddball> gotcha
22:54 <@Dagmar> JUst barely weaned by the look of it
22:54 <@oddball> wee tiny ball of fluff
22:54 <@Dagmar> Still all round in the middle and stuff
22:54 <@Dagmar> SO FLOOFY
22:54 <@Dagmar> I was on the fence about a medium-haired cat until I saw her
22:54 <@Dagmar> THERE WILL BE MANY BRUSHINGS
22:54 <@oddball> heh
22:55 <@Dagmar> She was clearly a stray when Metro snagged her and her sister
22:55 <@Dagmar> The girl brought her into the tasting room with me and left, and the little thing started scouting for a place to hide
22:56 <@oddball> awww
22:56 <@Dagmar> I picked her up, put her in my lap and started petting her to calm her down (the shelter is a terrifying place for babies) and it only took about 30 seconds to get her purring, and maybe a minute before head boops were happening
22:56 <@oddball> By the way, Naienko demands photos of you cuddling said kitten.
22:56 <@Dagmar> There will be many
22:57 <@Dagmar> I took three pics with her in my lap, but she'd barely sit still she was so happy
22:57 <@oddball> heh
22:58 <@oddball> For some reason, the idea of an itty bitty kitten stealing your soul breaks Naienko's head.
22:59 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/morticia/
22:59 < PigBot> Title: Index of /~dagmar/morticia (at dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja)
23:01 <@oddball> ah, so not tiny kitteh... a fairly well grown cat.
23:01 <@Dagmar> No, those pictures are way bigger htan the kitten
23:02 <@Dagmar> she's maybe 9-10 weeks old
23:02 <@oddball> oh, that's not her.  OK.
23:02 <@Dagmar> That *is* her
23:03 <@Dagmar> She only looks big because she's like six inches from my phone
23:03 <@Dagmar> I jsut added a pic of the collar I bought yesterday
23:03 <@Dagmar> I saw it and said "There's just no way I'm not buying this right now"
23:04 <@Dagmar> Velvet black, with a silvery bejeweled skull and crossbones
23:04 <@oddball> heh
23:06 <@Dagmar> I find it amusing that the people who make the stacked corrugated cardboard scratchers are already now selling basically, cat beds made of it
23:06 <@Dagmar> ...because "Cats love to lay on them"
23:06 <@Dagmar> ...which they really, really do
23:06 <@Dagmar> The one I got for Merlin was basically his favorite place in the house to lay
23:07 <@Dagmar> Kinda glad I didn't spend $40 on a cat bed
23:07 <@oddball> Yeah....
23:07 <@oddball> Just get a blanket and a cardboard box.
23:08 <@Dagmar> PetSmart is also selling stackable cardboard cubes with holes in them, alongside the fancy/expensive carpet cat towers
23:08 <@Dagmar> Not surprisingly, the cardboard models are selling like mad
23:09 <@oddball> yeah...
23:10 <@oddball> I do have one of the more expensive ones (I think I got it at Costco for $60)
23:10 <@oddball> They're worth it for the tall trees, but for small ones, fuck it.  Get the cardboard.
23:11 <@oddball> Also, Walmart and a couple other places sell some cheap trees that are basically suspension rods, cardboard tubes, and platforms.  My cats love the hell out of the one I have.
23:11 <@Dagmar> I will have to cut down the side of the litterbox I have a bit
23:12 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe cut up a box and make a ramp
23:12 <@Dagmar> I started to drop $45 on a hooded corner catbox, and then realized the entry was higher off the ground than a kitten would even be able to see into
23:12 <@Dagmar> We're NOT having a bunch of drama over using the cat box
23:13 <@Dagmar> Cats come with that as a standard feature now
23:13 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to have her little kitten mind thinking there is no cat box because she can't easily see into it
23:14 <@Dagmar> it's turning out to be that Nadia doesn't understand cats as well as she thought she did
23:14 <@Dagmar> She was messaging me last night telling me to come pick up "your cat"
23:15 <@Dagmar> She brought back several large animal furs from Oslo, including a reindeer pelt
23:15 <@oddball> oh dear
23:15 <@Dagmar> You can guess what happened
23:15 <@oddball> Chewing or peeing?
23:15 <@Dagmar> She was like "I had to put it outside and it's pouring rain!"
23:15 <@Dagmar> Peeing
23:15 <@oddball> suck
23:15 <@Dagmar> I had to remind her that the reindeer probably had been in the rain before
23:16 <@Dagmar> So long as it dries out properly afterwards it'll be fine
23:16 <@oddball> Yeah, but it also was producing oils when it was in the rail
23:16 <@oddball> er rain
23:16 <@Dagmar> I'd have strongly considered hosing it down with ozium
23:39 <@Dagmar> There is some _breathtaking_ technical bullshit in Project Almanac
23:39 <@Dagmar> "Oh you gotta put the L2 cache into ad-hoc mode"
23:40 <@Dagmar> Kid's car dies while rolling, he pops the hood, looks, comes back and says "I think it's my starter relay"
23:40 <@Dagmar> Engine was already started when it quit.
23:40 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
23:41 <@Dagmar> That it's PG-13 tells me there will not even be a chance of titties
23:44 <@oddball> In fairness, I've known people that would say shit like that.
23:47 <@Dagmar> This kid is supposed to have been admitted to MIT
23:47 <@Dagmar> ...and not on a liberal arts track
23:50 <@oddball> You remember Nemish?  The guy that got a scholarship to Carnegie-Melon for AI grad school?  He called me while he was there for help hooking up his cable modem.
23:51 <@Dagmar> That's a little more complex than realizing that a starter only starts the car
23:52 <@Dagmar> At least the acting is believable
23:56 <@Dagmar> OKay, I see what they're doing now.  They're being funny.
23:56 <@Dagmar> Heheh
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