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00:13 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_role-playing_game_franchises well... THAT'S a list
00:13 < PigBot> Title: List of Japanese role-playing game franchises - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
00:14 <@RangerZ> though It feels like 'total sales' is off for some of them
00:14 <@RangerZ> like Zoids
00:14 <@RangerZ> 23 games, 320k units sold
00:15 <@RangerZ> Zoids has mostly been a money sink to get people to buy the models (like Gundam) but still
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09:25 < _NSAKEY> http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/26/lyft-moves-customer-support-team-to-nashville-to-combat-high-priced-sf-market/
09:25 < PigBot> Title: Lyft Moves Customer Support Team To Nashville To Combat High-Priced SF Market | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com)
11:02 <@Evilpig> you can say that yahoo is doing that as well
11:02 <@Evilpig> just not at a large scale right now
11:03 <@Evilpig> their global help desk / call center is here in buffalo
11:47 <@Dagmar> Wow this Exeter movie is rough lol
11:57 <@Dagmar> The kids in this teen horror movie aren't even competent enough to tie their own shoes
11:57 <@Dagmar> I fail to see why actual demons would even waste their time
12:58 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I've wondered for a while why high tech companies keep paying the outrages prices out west.
13:11 < _NSAKEY> oddball: If they all decide to come here, prices will get even worse in downtown.
13:11 < _NSAKEY> It's already too expensive to be worth staying there.
13:11 <@oddball> details
13:11 < _NSAKEY> Still, a tech boom here could be interesting.
13:13 <@oddball> For the record, I wasn't specifically stating they should move here, but... come on... part of being high tech is that physical location isn't a big deal.
13:15 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: thatchart is scary
13:15 < aestetix> Apparently things have gotten worse since I left.
13:16 < aestetix> "The Lyft customer support team was informed that the move includes a lower pay in salary after one year in Nashville, according to sources."
13:16 < aestetix> who the hell woudl want that
13:16 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Does that really surprise you?
13:16 < _NSAKEY> Sounds like it means they get their old salary for a year, and then get bumped down to some lower rate afterwards.
13:17 < _NSAKEY> If the pay decrease isn't too bad, then it might be a net gain.
13:17 < _NSAKEY> Then again... Call centers = unskilled labor, so who cares?
13:17 <@oddball> Good news is that it's a hell of a lot cheaper to live here.
13:17 <@oddball> yup
13:17 < _NSAKEY> If they decide to go somewhere else, it isn't like there's some shortage of call centers here.
13:17 <@Evilpig> yeah no shit.  2000 a month for rent vs 800
13:17 <@Evilpig> yeah they're gonna get a pay decrease 
13:18 < _NSAKEY> Just about all the wireless carriers have some kind of call center in the general area.
13:18 <@oddball> yup
13:18 <@oddball> And comcast, and a few other folks.
13:18 < _NSAKEY> it's noe like they're being asked to do something that requires being intelligent
13:18 < _NSAKEY> They're reading from a fucking script, so boo hoo.
13:19 < _NSAKEY> They should be glad they haven't been obsoleted by automated phone systems yet.
13:19 < aestetix> god I hate those phone systems
13:26 <@Dagmar> You can be guaranteed that they'll be bumped right down to the minimum for the area at the company's first available opportunity
13:26 <@Dagmar> This is where companies come for _cheap_ labor
13:27 <@Dagmar> If you're a very, very good little boy or girl, you might make ten cents an hour more than the person sitting next to you.
13:27 <@Dagmar> The reason tehy're moving them here is because ther'es literally no way anyone can afford to live on what they _want_ to pay them over there.
13:29 <@Dagmar> Also, $800/month is barely enough to keep you in Davidson County now
13:29 < aestetix> Also, 2000 a month in Sf is cheap
13:29 < _NSAKEY> 800 a month won't even get you into a decent apartment complex in Smyrna.
13:30 <@Dagmar> I'm paying $750/month and I'm about to move into a one-bedroom to keep the rate
13:30 <@oddball> Which is why I bought a house.
13:30 <@Dagmar> ...and that's only because I'm renting from the owner.
13:30 < _NSAKEY> They're all either $1,000+ a month or section 8 in Smyrna. It's actually cheaper to buy a house and pay a mortgage there.
13:31 <@Dagmar> The rental agencies have been increasing rates to the tune of 12-15% every year for the last 10 years
13:31 <@Dagmar> Shit like this is why I expect there to be a violent revolution if we don't get Bernie
13:32 <@Dagmar> We're about to cross over from the median citizen being deeply in debt to the median citizen being barely able to pay the light bill
13:32 <@Dagmar> Apparently I qualify as "rich" just because I have a positive net worth and zero debt
13:33 <@Dagmar> ...and I live like i"m fuckin' poor
13:33 <@Dagmar> So fuck all these greedy people.  Let's burn some shit down.
13:35 < _NSAKEY> Speaking of greed, the Silk Road story just doesn't stop being crazy: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/variety-jones-a-corrupt-fbi-agent-is-hunting-me-so-im-turning-myself-in
13:36 <@Dagmar> Heh
13:37 < _NSAKEY> varietyjones got doxed a few weeks back. Now he's making wild claims about some corrupt FBI agent and how he's thinking of turning himself in.
13:59 <@Dagmar> I'm am awful person
14:00 <@Dagmar> THis is exactly what it looks like http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/tinderpic.jpg
14:00 <@Dagmar> We'll give that a few weeks and see how it plays
14:11 <@oddball> annnd Netflix is being especially ass-tastic today.
14:16 <@Dagmar> OKay... so... deep down, we all knew this was true
14:16 <@Dagmar> https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Gaming-PC-vs-Space-Heater-Efficiency-511/
14:16 < PigBot> Title: Gaming PC vs. Space Heater Efficiency - Puget Custom Computers (at www.pugetsystems.com)
14:18 <@oddball> So... what you're saying is that all those women working at offices complaining about it being cold just need to have a gaming rig under their desks instead of the $300 office machine they usually have.
14:20 <@oddball> Wait... 3 video cards?  I knew you could pair them.  Didn't know you could link in a third one.
14:21 < _NSAKEY> oddball: 3 and 4-way SLI/Crossfire is possible. It's just that diminishing returns kicks in hard, so not many people bother.
14:22 < _NSAKEY> You're more likely to find someone who has an old bitcoin mining milk crate with 3+ GPUs.
14:22 <@oddball> Of course, while I play a lot of games, I've been content with a single mid-range vid card.
14:23 < _NSAKEY> There's also these barebones systems, which the password cracking types with money love: http://www.tyan.com/campaign/nvidia/tyan_nvidia_tesla_k40_platfroms.html
14:23 < PigBot> Title: TYAN GPU Solutions - NVIDIA Tesla K40 Platforms (at www.tyan.com)
14:23 <@oddball> ah... yeah.  Forgot about bitcoin mining and the like.
14:23 < _NSAKEY> Specificially, the FT77A is the one the cracking rig builders use.
14:24 <@oddball> I keep being told that "you have to have at least these specs to play games anymore," and I keep thinking "really?  'cause I play fairly modern games and have no problems with lower specs."
14:25 <@oddball> Hell, I'm still running a GT640
14:26 < _NSAKEY> I'm still using a GTX 650 Ti BOOST, but that's because at the time the next step up was the GTX 660, which I read was overkill for any games on Linux.
14:26 < _NSAKEY> So, I didn't bother spending the extra $50 for a GTX 660.
14:28 <@oddball> And from last I read, there really hasn't been much of a performance difference between the geneartions.
14:28 <@oddball> And I'm still not willing to drop $200+ of a vid card.
14:29 < _NSAKEY> There is if you go from Pre-Maxwell to Maxwell on NVIDIA.
14:29 < _NSAKEY> NVIDIA fixed the reason that they weren't useful for things like bitcoin mining and password cracking.
14:29 < _NSAKEY> Even if that isn't something you care about, they cut the power draw way down.
14:29 <@oddball> Do you know when that happened?
14:30 < _NSAKEY> These days, you can compare just about any NVIDIA card to an AMD card at just about any price point, and NVIDIA will use about half the power and have around the same performance.
14:30 <@Evilpig> except for that new half depth amd wonder card
14:31 < _NSAKEY> They released the GTX 750 in March 2014 or so, and came out with GTX 900 series cards about a year ago.
14:31 <@oddball> And nVidia is in bed with enough gaming companies that it makes sense to go with them for that alone.
14:31 < _NSAKEY> Performance for other workloads didn't see the huge gains that crypto operations did.
14:32 < _NSAKEY> If I recall correctly, the 750s don't even need an external power connector.
14:33 <@Evilpig> http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-nano-detailed-features-fiji-gpu-175w-tdp-single-8pin-connector-sff-design-faster-hawaii/
14:33 < PigBot> Title: AMD Radeon R9 Nano Officially Detailed - Features Fiji GPU With 175W TDP, Single 8-Pin Connector and SFF Design Thats Faster Than Hawaii (at wccftech.com)
14:36 < _NSAKEY> oddball: NVIDIA is worth going with for the lack of pain with their binary unix drivers.
14:36 < _NSAKEY> That's something AMD probably won't get right before they inevitably go under.
14:38 <@oddball> Oh, yeah... I haven't bought an ATI vid card that wan't built onto a mobo for... uh... at last a decade.
14:41 < _NSAKEY> I bought an HD 5450 a few years ago for a project box.
14:41 < _NSAKEY> That was the last time I bought an AMD GPU.
14:42 < _NSAKEY> I'd rather buy their processors than Intel's simply because of price, especially if it's a budget build. That being said, they're just too inferior in the GPU space when Linux is involved for their offerings to be worth considering.
14:47 <@Evilpig> have you guys ever heard of this kind of thing?  http://www.steakstoneandsushi.com/catalog.aspx?cid=13
14:47 < PigBot> Title: Steak Stone and Sushi Japanese Restaurant, Lockport, NY 14094, Coupon discount (at www.steakstoneandsushi.com)
14:56 <@Dagmar> Nope but we're gettin' a Panda Express less than 5 minutes from my house now.  :)
14:58 <@Evilpig> i'm curious about this steak stone.  I might have to go try it later tonight
14:58 <@Dagmar> Don't drop it in your lap or set it on anything made of paper
15:02 <@Dagmar> 800F is burn your leg right off territory
16:39 <@jb7od> I had a mail.que file go corrupt on me. Those fuckers can be fixed with eseutil, however the spend forever in the replay queue.
16:40 <@jb7od> 2058 mails. :l
17:28 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling this thermometer is about to tell me some bad news
17:29 <@Dagmar> 98.1.  Maybe so, maybe not
17:30 <@Dagmar> My voice has made almost no progress in the last few days, like the laryngitis just won't fuckin' leave
17:31 <@Dagmar> I do certainly kinda feel like crap right now tho
17:31 < aestetix> god german is fucking strange
17:33 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Are you getting a crash course in why English is a collection of filthy hacks?
17:36 < aestetix> yes
17:36 <@Dagmar> Oh and the German approach of just shoving a whole bunch of words together is any better?
17:37 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I'm not complimenting German.
17:38 < _NSAKEY> It's just that when you put Latin, Greek, and German into a blender, then sprinkle little bits of French on top of the result for seasoning, you get a collection of filthy hacks.
17:39 <@Dagmar> Oh, I figured out what *some* of the deal with Indian programmers is
17:39 <@Dagmar> There's an idiom among Hindi-speakers that translates directly as "Understand the emotions, not the syntax"
17:40 <@Dagmar> Apparently they keep repeating this in _trade schools_
17:40 <@Dagmar> It explains quite a lot.
17:41 <@Dagmar> A Hindi guy said it in ##Linux a couple of nights ago and a few of us said "Wait, what?"
18:12 < aestetix> http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/john-boehner-slams-conservatives-false-prophets-n434471
18:12 < PigBot> Title: John Boehner Slams Conservative False Prophets - NBC News (at www.nbcnews.com)
18:53 <@Dagmar> w00t!  Ember beta code
18:58 <@Dagmar> Wow.
18:58 <@Dagmar> What was that... 1 minute and a half?
18:58 <@Dagmar> That's how long it took me to realize there's some insane issues
18:58 <@Dagmar> Apparently the game revolves around creating "generators"... which happen when you plug into a power outlet
18:59 <@Dagmar> Literally, plugging your phone into power
18:59 <@Dagmar> It's supposed to be a wall outlet that is _pulic_
18:59 <@Dagmar> er public
18:59 <@oddball> So... you're supposed to physically go out and randomly plug your phone into strang outlets.
19:00 <@oddball> I'm hoping there's more to this.
19:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah there's actually a slew of pwoer connectors at Corner Pub Midtown, but there's no way in hell I'm plugging my phone into some random USB wire
19:04 <@Dagmar> ...but like, how the shit is this enforceable?
19:04 <@Dagmar> I might go driving around later and just look for everwhere I can see a power outlet
19:05 <@Dagmar> Post Office... check
19:05 <@Dagmar> Random light pole with an outlet on it, check.
19:05 <@Dagmar> Bongo Java, check.
19:05 <@northrup> JJ's Market
19:05 <@Dagmar> Yeah
19:05 <@northrup> (which is where I'm currently at)
19:06 <@Dagmar> Hell, I actually just plugged in my tiny little external battery
19:06 <@northrup> they can never figure out the AC at this place... well, mainly the dudes here... when the ladies work it's always a NICE crisp 68 or 70
19:06 <@Dagmar> I don't understand how this is supposed to be a useful game mechanic
19:06 <@northrup> when the dudes work it's damned near 77 and makes me sleepy
19:07 <@northrup> Dagmar: that sounds dumb, and I can't understand why that would be a key game component
19:07 <@Dagmar> I can only think that maybe you need to _stay_ connected to it for awhile or something
19:08 <@Dagmar> aside form that would be bad for batteries, it's baffling
19:39 <@oddball> northrup: Well, the good news is that won't be a problem much longer.  They're going to close up shop and level the building soon, last I heard.
19:40 <@northrup> you'd be surprised... the staff here doesn't understand how the REAL world works
19:40 <@northrup> every day I'm in here, I hear someone ask...and the staff prattles on with some dumb shit story about how the lease goes to 2021...
19:40 <@northrup> so THEY think they'll be around
19:41 <@northrup> meanwhile, anyone with a brain would figure out that at the worst to the developer, if I just bought half a city block... I could afford to buy out your fucking lease and tell you to GTFO
19:41 <@northrup> best case (and most likely to the developer) they have a severability clause when they bought the land that said that they were not bound by leases made by the prior owners.
19:42 <@northrup> I don't ant to see JJ's go - I rather like it.. but damn are these some ignorant, don't-get-how-the-world-works 20-somethings.
19:42 <@northrup> </rant>
19:42 < _NSAKEY> I think it was a better spot for 2600 meetings than Cool Springs.
19:42 < _NSAKEY> northrup: Is the parking at the lot down the street still $15 for 6 hours?
19:42 <@oddball> And a developer isn't going to buy a site with the intent of sitting on it for 6 years before begining development.
19:42 <@northrup> oh for damn sure - fuck a bunch of cook springs
19:43 <@northrup> _NSAKEY: yes it is
19:43 <@oddball> Oh, hell yes, I liked meeting there better than Cool Springs.
19:43 <@oddball> I've also spent a lot of time hanging out there and will be sad to see it go.
19:46 <@northrup> I'm extremely sad to see it go, just because I think the staff here is naive doesn't mean I want it to go
19:46 <@northrup> it's the last coffee shop in this town that actually behaves like I want a coffee shop to work...
19:47 <@northrup> Fido, Bongo Java, Cafe CoCo, Frothy Monkey.... they've turned into a see and be seen hipster-doofus paradise.
19:47 < _NSAKEY> Cool Springs has one thing going for it: The parking will always be free... But that's about it.
19:47 <@oddball> Yeah... I went over to Bongo's a while ago.  Hadn't been back since they added on to the front and got rid of the porch.  It felt... wrong.
19:47 < _NSAKEY> There's food at the food court, but it's not worthwhile food.
19:48 <@oddball> And I stopped going to Cocco's years ago when it shifted from where the actual freaks hung out to where the freak-wannabes hung out.
19:49 <@northrup> If WaffeHouse would get free wifi... I think it would be a hackers haven while we wondered in this wasteland looking for a new spot
19:49 <@northrup> s/WaffeHouse/Waffle House/
19:49 <@oddball> heh
19:49 <@northrup> they're at least open 24 hours a day 7 days a week...
19:50 <@oddball> I'm actually kind of surprised that WaHo doesn't have free wifi.
19:51 <@northrup> I know... even McDonalds has it now?!?
19:51 <@northrup> and who actually goes INTO one of those any more?
19:55 < _NSAKEY> I looked into the place NashSec moved to, and it doesn't have wifi of any kind.
19:56 < _NSAKEY> It's quiet and has free parking across the street, at least.
19:56 < _NSAKEY> Cool Springs doesn't have wifi either.
19:59 <@oddball> Well, if it works beyond that, I'm pretty sure most of us can *make* our own wifi.
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20:11 < _NSAKEY> There's a pizza place on Belcourt called Savarino's, with a cocktail bar upstairs named Amari.
20:12 < _NSAKEY> That's where NashSec meets. I don't know about the rest of their menu, but their pizza is great.
20:14 <@Dagmar> Is that this week?
20:14 <@Dagmar> (I have said I never remmeber when the fuck it is)
20:16 < _NSAKEY> No. It's the third thursday of every month.
20:16 < _NSAKEY> I would have done more to remind you this time around, but you were talking about being sick.
20:16 <@Dagmar> Yeah I was not in a state for going out then
20:17 <@Dagmar> So thanks for not mentioning it actually.  :)
20:17 <@Dagmar> At the rate I'm going, I might be able to do the talk at PhreakNIC without having to use a Speak'n'Spell
20:18 < _NSAKEY> Hahaha. Still sick?
20:18 <@Dagmar> I honestly can't tell
20:18 <@Dagmar> I'm a bit lacking on sleep at the moment, but otherwise no real symptoms to speak of
20:18 <@Dagmar> ...except I'm just inches away from Slingblade territory on the voice
20:18 <@Dagmar> I'm literally missing whole octaves
20:19 <@Dagmar> My guess is that the laryngitis component decided to stick around no matter what
20:19 <@Dagmar> Typically, there's just not a lot of symptoms to laryngitis
20:20 <@Dagmar> A very mild fever and... your voice goes to shit
20:21 <@Dagmar> Mainly I'm just making sure the bartender knows my bloody mary should be extra spicy.  ;)
20:21 <@Evilpig> do you have them french fried potaters in there? mmmm hrmmm
20:21 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Dude, that tone is literally the only way I can be guaranteed to be heard
20:22 <@Dagmar> Last week my voice was cracking like a teenager
20:22 <@Dagmar> ...and my voice cracked all of _once_ when I was an actual teenager.
20:22 <@Evilpig> just met a nice girl that tried to convince me this town is hopping
20:22 <@Dagmar> I freakin' hate what's happened to my vocal chords
20:23 <@Evilpig> I said in the last year I've seen five finger death punch, volbeat, and clutch to which she countered with "linkin park came here two years ago"
20:23 <@Dagmar> Mess with her
20:23 <@Dagmar> Ask if she knows when Nickelback is coming through again
20:23 <@Evilpig> all I could do was shake my head at her and gave her my condolences
20:23 <@Evilpig> I'm close enough to canadia that nickelback is acceptable
20:24 <@Dagmar> Are they putting something in the maple syrup/
20:24 <@Dagmar> ?
20:24 <@Evilpig> it's the influence of the canadian christ child, beiber
20:25 <@Dagmar> I would really enjoy taking a poke at that kid
20:52 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/8JBXfsZyr5woxcgr7
20:52 <@Evilpig> btw I didn't burn any appendages off
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