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00:22 <@Dagmar> yeah it looks like a good card
00:23 <@Dagmar> I just try to stick with hauppauge since they've been pretty cool with Linux users in the past.
00:23 <@Dagmar> There was some off-the-record help with the HD-PVR driver
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00:37 < RangerZ1> yeah
00:38 < RangerZ1> I'm not going to be making any purchases for a long time
00:38 < RangerZ1> was just wondering if people knew of good brands/devices now a days
00:39 < RangerZ1> the days of plugging in your cable coax into your PC and using it as a DVR are sadly long gone probably
00:39 < RangerZ1> .... not that I even _have_ cable TV.... but I was kinda curious
00:44 <@Dagmar> So... apparently if you train a dweller up to 10 luck, strength, and endurance and send them into the Wasteland you have to change their name to "Looty McLooterson"
00:46 <@Dagmar> Also, the "workshop full of pregnant women" trick works almost disturbingly well
00:46 <@Dagmar> Also I figured out I could empty out a couple more rooms and make it hit six at once
00:51 <@Dagmar> Largest vault is now 154 wastelanders, and like 20 of them have as a primary occupation "Paired Wandering Inventory Slots"
00:52 <@Dagmar> Some of the weapons my guys have pulled in tho... wheee
00:52 <@Dagmar> I don't much like that the vault entrance can only have two guards tho
00:53 <@Dagmar> At least with it empty my first reactor room gets XP for all six of the staff
00:53 <@Dagmar> Deathclaws can barely make it to the second room on floor 2
00:54 <@Dagmar> My guess is that death claw strength scales like FO3 scaled... based on average dweller level
00:55 <@Dagmar> I had to rename Colonel Autumn to Colonel Awesome
00:55 <@Dagmar> This has led to some odd wastelander names.  Heh
00:57 <@Dagmar> I may have a slight genetic diversity problem tho
00:57 <@Dagmar> I accidentally slid one of my C=10 guys into the barrack where I'd put all the women
00:58 <@Dagmar> He was knocking them up as soon as they popped
00:58 <@Dagmar> I didn't notice it was the _same guy_
00:58 <@Dagmar> It might take a little while to undo "The Lane Effect"
01:01 <@Dagmar> I _almost_ feel bad for breeding dwellers just to wear stuff
01:16 <@Dagmar> http://i.imgur.com/ZW3vmrN.png hehehe
01:53 <@Dagmar> Reading /r/FalloutShelter I think if I posted a video of a deathclaw attack, some of these people would flip out
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07:58 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:21 < aestetix> is everyone at dragoncon?
10:23 <@oddball> not yet
10:24 <@oddball> That doesn't start until Thursday.
10:24 < aestetix> oh
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12:12 < aestetix> http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/pope-francis-abortion-forgive-women-213210
12:12 < PigBot`> Title: Pope Francis to allow priests to forgive women who had abortions (at www.politico.com)
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13:54 <@Evilpig> http://www.battlesports.ca/rage-room-menu/
13:54 < PigBot`> Title: Rage Room Menu - Battle Sports Inc. (at www.battlesports.ca)
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14:17 < aestetix> ok so
14:17 < aestetix> Is FOIA the only reason cliton used a private email server?
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14:26 <@Dagmar> That and probably hiding outright illegal activities
15:02 <@Evilpig> two tumblr sre guys couldn't set up a dual homed machine.
15:02 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you should have applied
15:32 < aestetix> what is a dual homed machine?
15:33 <@Evilpig> 172.0.0.0       172.17.167.1    255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 bond0
15:33 <@Evilpig> 0.0.0.0         192.168.20.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth2
15:33 < aestetix> a system with two network interfaces?
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15:34 <@Evilpig> and different networks that require routing
15:34 <@Evilpig> both are valid paths for the internet
15:34 < aestetix> got it
15:34 < aestetix> doesn't seem that hard
15:34 <@Evilpig> it isn't
15:34 <@Evilpig> it's stupid simple
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15:35 <@Evilpig> the first guy fucked it up to the point that the second couldn't get into the machine easily.
15:36 < aestetix> heh
15:36 <@Evilpig> the second was just a lazy sob and knew the fastest route was the one I suggested back at 11 this morning.  and that was "do you want me to fix it?"
15:36 < aestetix> I've done that before. But I also don't claim to have a mastery of networking
15:36 <@Evilpig> didn't I break your networking once?
15:37 < aestetix> lol possibly
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16:42 < aestetix> So this woman in KY who is pushing back against the Supreme Court
16:42 < aestetix> I wonder what all the neoliberals would say if she was pushing back against FISA
16:46 <@northrup> Pushing back against FISA - those folks happen every day, generating tons of FOIA requests, etc.
16:47 <@northrup> however, real people that buck the DHS just get dissapeared
16:47 < aestetix> northrup: in the form of a clerk at Verizon actively refusing to give the government phone records?
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16:55 <@northrup> that person is fired - no questions asked, because people way higher up in Vz have already struck that deal.
16:55 <@northrup> however - see Lavamail, who did NOT want to comply with FISA request and opted to go out of business and shutdown
17:01 < _NSAKEY> northrup: That was Lavabit.
17:02 < _NSAKEY> They did technically comply with the letter of the NSL in the end.
17:02 < _NSAKEY> The feds wanted their private key. They printed it out in a small font and killed the service.
17:03 <@northrup> Lava something, you're right _NSAKEY
17:03 < _NSAKEY> Any service like that needs to be operated in a country that isn't going to get all draconian like that.
17:04 <@northrup> I'm not sure what I would do if it was me in thier position, where the "don't comply and you will dissapear" comes in
17:04 <@northrup> _NSAKEY: YES!
17:04 <@northrup> note - you also might want to LIVE in that country to, not just house the servers there...
17:04 < _NSAKEY> Well, yeah.
17:04 <@northrup> or a country that does't support extradition to the USA
17:04 < _NSAKEY> Using any US-controlled TLD is also a non-starter.
17:05 < _NSAKEY> Because that's how Mega Upload got jammed up. The US decided, "They use .com, so we can do whatever we want."
17:07 < _NSAKEY> Doing e-mail that isn't riddled with problems is too hard to be worth bothering with, though. At least, that's how I see it.
17:07 < _NSAKEY> Something like XMPP is a lot easier to make resistant to illegal mass surveillance. otr.im is a good model.
17:08 < _NSAKEY> I thought about running my own public XMPP server and calling it "fuckthepolice.im" but the Isle of Man government didn't like that domain.
17:11 <@northrup> Yeah, I ran the same thing for a whlie and even federated with Google...
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17:11 <@northrup> then google fucking bailed on XMPP
17:12 < _NSAKEY> I went as far as figuring out how to go overboard with setting up Prosody on a box, then wrote a bash script to automate it and published it and the configs on github.
17:13 < _NSAKEY> With that setup, users can at least be told, "Use a newer client that supports OTR ot GTFO." With e-mail, it's not nearly that simple.
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19:02 <@Evilpig> well this is unexpected.  gonna require more testing.
19:02 <@Evilpig> my nfc wasn't working on my note4.  this wasn't totally unexpected but it shoudl have worked cause the zerolemon I got was nfc enabled
19:03 <@Evilpig> what I didn't expect is my gps appears to be working correctly again now that the extended battery is off.
19:03 <@northrup> that IS unexpected
19:04 <@Evilpig> gonna use the stock battery for a few days and see if it remains working correctly.  if it does i'll be contacting zerolemon
19:04 <@Evilpig> I'm thinking it's just coincidence though
19:26 < _NSAKEY> If it's not, you should give it a proper send-off by hazing some new guy into stabbing the extended battery with a knife.
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