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00:49 < NoFault> evening
00:50 < NoFault> anyone on?
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07:42 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:05 < aestetix> http://warisboring.com/articles/listen-to-this-lecture-from-the-man-who-dropped-both-atomic-bombs/
09:06 < aestetix> It seems that the question "Was Truman justified in dropping the bombs" is a question that has been argued for 50 years.
09:36 < aestetix> wow berlin is something else
09:36 < aestetix> A little 3d printing shop just moved in down the street from me
09:36 < aestetix> And to advertise, they have put up signs all down the street saying in german "dildo creators" with full color pictures of dildos
09:37 < aestetix> I'm gonna go take a photo in a moment, it was kind of epic
09:37 < aestetix> The best part was that the people putting the signs up were not angry young kids
09:37 < aestetix> Looked like a middle aged couple trying to run a respectable business
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10:01 < aestetix> here you go
10:01 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/637263535035260928
10:01 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "Ahh, Berlin. This respectable dildo shop is across the street from me. Down the street from a catholic school. http://t.co/hJtZaGH4rG" (at twitter.com)
11:29 <@oddball> f'ing germans.
12:00 < aestetix> oddball: I thought you'd like that :)
12:04 <@oddball> Oh, I find it highly amusing.
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12:07 < aestetix> jesus
12:07 < aestetix> do journalists today just suck at doing reearch?
12:07 < aestetix> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/08/28/this-virginia-teen-will-spend-11-years-in-prison-for-helping-isis-through-social-media/
12:07 < PigBot`> Title: This Virginia teen will spend 11 years in prison for helping ISIS through social media - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
12:07 < aestetix> I have asked two pointed questions to the guy who wrote this, via twitter, and he does not have answers
12:09 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/637293575030616064
12:09 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "@kansasalps Are there copies of the tweets in question anywhere? That seems highly relevant to making an informed conclusion about this." (at twitter.com)
12:10 < aestetix> I don't expect the journalist to have ready answers, but I do expect him to have at least asked those questions.
12:15 < aestetix> On a related note I am now catching up with the politiwoops news
12:22 <@oddball> aestetix: Oh, after seeing how the press covers gun stuff, I can tell you the answer to that question is "no."
12:23 < aestetix> yeah
12:23 < aestetix> He wrote a news story about data that doesn't exist, and he doesn't seem to have asked for it, or know why it doesn't exist anymore.
12:24 < aestetix> Because if, for example, courts are demanding that twitter take down public tweets to make it easier to rule on cases, that's a big deal.
12:24 < aestetix> Twitter suspending accounts on a whim is also a big deal, but a very different kind of one.
12:25 < aestetix> I understand the idea of wanting to get lots of ad impressions, but if you do a good job and create irrefutable coverage, over time the work pays for itself.
12:27 <@oddball> Ah, been then you might not be the first to publish, and that's what matters.
12:27 < aestetix> Except that if you're the first to publish, you may have to do an embarassing retraction.
12:28 <@oddball> Look at any of the mass shooting coverage.
12:28 <@oddball> pfft. They don't give a shit about having to run a retraction.
12:29 < aestetix> And the lives ruined because of false accusations?
12:29 <@oddball> TV almost never does retractions.
12:29 < aestetix> "It looks like a black guy did this, and there is a black guy on my street. I wonder if he did it. Maybe I should post his photo and asking people if it was him"
12:29 <@oddball> Newspapers *might* print a retraction buried somewhere next week.
12:30 <@oddball> The online versions of the newspaper stories are just quietly updated without mention of previous versions.  Up to and including entirely new articles.
12:30 < aestetix> Which is why the policowoops thing is such a big deal.
12:30 <@oddball> policowoops?
12:32 < aestetix> politiwoopps whatever it is called
12:32 <@oddball> At this point, due to that policy by news outlets on their websites, I consider bloggers as more reliable sources.  I can be fairly certain that they'll leep the story intact or at least note the edit.
12:32 < aestetix> a thing by the sunlight foundation
12:32 <@oddball> no clue
12:33 < aestetix> http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/06/twitter-effectively-shuts-down-politwoops-208239
12:33 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter effectively shuts down Politwoops (at www.politico.com)
12:33 <@oddball> ah, ok
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12:59 < _NSAKEY> Twitter's been sending a pretty clear message since their IPO that they only want corporations and people taking pictures of their cats/meals they're about to eat.
12:59 < _NSAKEY> It's like they actively discriminate against any interesting accounts.
12:59 < _NSAKEY> I'm waiting for @congress_edits to get the banhammer next.
13:00 < aestetix> hmmm
13:01 < aestetix> Germany is so rigidly different than the US.
13:01 < aestetix> I'm trying to see if I can convince the Auslanderbureau to recognize my years of experience as a degree so they give me a better visa :)
13:01  * klixa throws aestetix out of her store for touching teh magazines
13:01 < aestetix> hahah
13:02 <@klixa> aestetix: im a german citizen...you need visa? you have $$? #greencardmarriage
13:02 < aestetix> lol
13:02 < aestetix> I thought you were married already
13:02 <@klixa> no...we've been togethr 16 years this october, but not married
13:03 < aestetix> I wonder if you have to have sex for germany to recognize a marriage
13:03 <@klixa> i dunno... but you can lie
13:03 < aestetix> klixa: btw did you see the dildo ads?
13:03 <@klixa> no i didnt
13:03 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/637293575030616064
13:03 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "@kansasalps Are there copies of the tweets in question anywhere? That seems highly relevant to making an informed conclusion about this." (at twitter.com)
13:03 < aestetix> fuck
13:03 < aestetix> wrong link
13:04 <@klixa> im surprised you like germany, they are super strict there...i mean people really do get thrown out of stores for touching the magainoines
13:04 <@klixa> i saw that happen many times
13:04 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/637263535035260928
13:04 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "Ahh, Berlin. This respectable dildo shop is across the street from me. Down the street from a catholic school. http://t.co/hJtZaGH4rG" (at twitter.com)
13:04 < aestetix> klixa: depends where in germany you are
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13:08 <@klixa> i was in frankfort, and various tiny towns around ti
13:09 <@klixa> it*
13:19 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/comments/1vg3pd/german_eu_blue_card_for_software_development_with/
13:19 < PigBot`> Title: German EU Blue card for software development with "work experience" instead of a university degree : IWantOut (at www.reddit.com)
13:19 < aestetix> I love reddit
13:21 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Do you love warming yourself by the internet trash fire?
13:25 < aestetix> what did I do now
13:25 < _NSAKEY> reddit = internet trash fire.
13:25 < aestetix> oh
13:25 < aestetix> reddit has actually been highly useful
13:26 < aestetix> When I was trying to apply for an apartment, they asked for shufa (credit). The place everyone used to go to get shufa went out of business, and someone was complaining about it on reddit. Someone replied to that thread with the location of the only place left in berlin to get it.
13:26 < aestetix> And now I have a place to live :)
13:28 <@Mirage> http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34075407
13:28 < PigBot`> Title: How 'MacGyver' became a verb - BBC News (at www.bbc.com)
13:43 <@Mirage> http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2015/08/watch-how-to-use-cockney-rhyming-slang/
13:43 < PigBot`> Title: WATCH: How to Use Cockney Rhyming Slang | Anglophenia | BBC America (at www.bbcamerica.com)
13:47 <@Evilpig> time for a shower so I can head to the movies in a bit
13:48 <@Mirage> for sure, can smell you down here
13:48 <@Evilpig> sales drones racked up a big fuckin' number this week but we have no idea where that sits for the bahamas goal.  so lame...
14:31 < aestetix> so
14:31 < aestetix> can anyone recommend a good password list for kismac?
14:31 < aestetix> my internet won't be hooked up in my new place for a few days, so I want to remedy the issue
14:34 < aestetix> hmm http://maurisdump.blogspot.de/2011/12/best-dictionaries-wordlist-for-wpa.html
14:34 < PigBot`> Title: Mauris Tech Blog: UPDATE: The BEST Dictionaries & Wordlist for WPA Cracking (at maurisdump.blogspot.de)
14:42 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Got any newer GPUs?
14:42 < _NSAKEY> It sounds like you're going to need hashcat at some point.
14:43 < _NSAKEY> If you can find evidence of a style the default passes conform to, you can make cracking a lot simpler.
14:47 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: what was that parallel wget thing you had
14:48 < _NSAKEY> You mean my lftp set-up?
14:48 < aestetix> that might have been it
14:49 < aestetix> can lftp use http headers?
14:49 < aestetix> ok yes
14:50 < _NSAKEY> lftp -e 'mirror -c --use-pget-n=2 --parallel=2 /your/remote/dir/ /your/local/dir ; exit' -u [INSERT USERNAME HERE],asdf sftp://[INSERT BOX URL OR IP HERE]:[INSERT SSH PORT HERE]
14:53 < _NSAKEY> That may need additional tweaking to suit whatever you're doing, but that's what I use instead of rsync to pull down from my seedbox.
15:05 < aestetix> jesus
15:05 < aestetix> I fuckign swear I need to set a scraper on kimsufi to alert me when a $5 serveer is available
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16:30 < NexusLogik> hmm which to install archlinux or gentoop
16:30 < NexusLogik> er gentoo
16:57 <@Dagmar> I think you should probably go for Arch
16:57 <@Dagmar> It has handily supplanted Gentoo as the distro of choice for people operating wildly beyond their depth.
16:57 <@Dagmar> ;)
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17:14 <@Evilpig> oh shit!  LOL    https://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/a1738-a1739_enlarged.html
17:14 < PigBot`> Title: T-Shirt Hell: BLACK LIVES MATTER EXCEPT (MENS NAME/WOMENS NAME) (at www.tshirthell.com)
17:23 <@Evilpig> they've gotten a few new ones that are funny.  http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/buildabear-workshop/
17:23 < PigBot`> Title: T-Shirt Hell :: Shirts :: BUILD-A-BEAR WORKSHOP (at www.tshirthell.com)
17:50 < aestetix> jesus
17:51 < aestetix> why do people do drugs, come up with insane stories about being stalked, and then send me messages about it
18:02 <@oddball> Evilpig: And remember, if a guy walks up and shoots people after releasing a manifesto stating that he's startign a race war, it doesn't count if he's black.
18:03 < aestetix> I'm still not sure what counts as a race. Are german and polish races?
18:08 < aestetix> https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205701245
18:08 < PigBot`> Title: What is Quarantining? Reddit Help (at reddit.zendesk.com)
18:08 < aestetix> I just found out one of the subreddits I glace at on occasion has been quarantined
18:09 <@oddball> Depends on what time period you're talking about.  100+ years ago, yep.  These days?  not so much.
18:11 < aestetix> oddball: maybe from an american view
18:11 <@oddball> fair enough
18:12 < aestetix> Since AMerican states have basically lost all sovereignty, it's easy to make the mistake that european countries have too
18:14 <@oddball> Well, they've started down that road with the EU.
18:14 < aestetix> The same EU that is debating whether to kick greece out? :)
18:15 <@oddball> Yep... because Greece won't do what it wants it to do.
18:15 <@oddball> Which makes me wonder... if that happens, will Greece be forced to go back to their own money?
18:16 < aestetix> yep
18:16 < aestetix> Which will cause all kinds of issues
18:16 < aestetix> There is a huge germany vs greece tension right now
18:16 < aestetix> If greece leaves or gets kicked out, the EU basically becomes worthless
18:16 < aestetix> Which would be nice for Russian, since Putin has been trying to snatch up a few countries here and there
18:23 <@oddball> How would it become uselesS?
18:24 < aestetix> Think about it. What is the role of the EU? And what happens to its integrity if countries begin leaving?
18:26 <@oddball> At the same time, Greece is currently basically wanting to feed off of the rest of the member nations without giving back/fixing how it got there.
18:27 < aestetix> not denying that
18:27 < aestetix> Of course there is also the argument that they wouldn't be in that position if Germany hadn't destroyed them in ww2 ;)
18:39 <@oddball> In fairness, Germany was pretty much economically ruined after WW1, and they were able to brush themselves off and damn near conquer Europe 20 years later. :p
18:47 < aestetix> ok so
18:47 < aestetix> one of my friends startups is apparently out of beta, and has turned into something I needed badly
18:47 < aestetix> www.hypothes.is
19:03 < aestetix> man
19:03 < aestetix> https://hypothes.is/terms-of-service/
19:03 < PigBot`> Title: Terms of Service | Hypothesis (at hypothes.is)
19:03 < aestetix> this is what a ToS should look like
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21:59 <@Evilpig> http://www.brokenlizard.com/tinfoilmonkey
21:59 < PigBot`> Title: The Tinfoil Monkey Agenda! — Broken Lizard (at www.brokenlizard.com)
21:59 <@Evilpig> first movie ever made by broken lizard.  they're about to screen it live
22:15 <@Dagmar> I am somewhat surprised to find that I actually like something on CW.
22:15 <@Dagmar> iZombie isn't half bad, although really... I could do without the cuisine bits.
22:16 <@Dagmar> ZOmbies eating brains, I'm fine
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22:16 <@Dagmar> Zombies carefully preparing a falafel with brains and hot sauce, not so much.
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22:54 < aestetix> I love hacking bureaucracy
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