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00:56 <@Dagmar> dafuq?  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-25/facebook-spam-king-guilty-over-27-million-messages-u-s-says
00:56 < PigBot`> Title: Facebook ‘Spam King’ Guilty for Sending 27 Million Messages - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com)
00:56 <@Dagmar> I thought that guy learned his lesson about spamming in 2000
00:57 <@Dagmar> Damn some people are thick headed
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01:52 <@RangerZ> didn't he go to jail over that?
01:53 <@RangerZ> or was it one of those "fine + vacation in min. security jail for a few months... but got to keep most of his money
01:53 <@RangerZ> also.... apparently it WAS my router :/
01:53 <@RangerZ> since 9:46:30 PM, and no DCs
01:55 <@RangerZ> aestetix: did you hear about the twitter/politwoops issue?
02:26 < aestetix> no
02:33 <@Dagmar> Well, he apparently violated the terms of what he was forbidden to do the _last_ time he got arrested and raked over the coals.
02:34 <@RangerZ> aestetix: look into it, right up your alley
02:34 <@Dagmar> ...and then he was all in the press saying "I have learned my lesson.  Spamming is wrong."
02:34 <@RangerZ> twitter stopping sites from archiving public tweets of politicans
02:36 <@Dagmar> That is big heaping piles of bullshit there
02:36 <@Dagmar> If you publish it, fuck you, we can archive it
02:37 <@RangerZ> well twitter is afraid that politicians will just stop using twitter if they 'fear' their tweets not being able to be deleted
02:37 <@RangerZ> though personally I think a DDS approach would completely screw with them
02:38 <@RangerZ> just have a ton of small servers follow a few people each and archive them
02:38 <@RangerZ> also dagmar did you see gnomoria now works on *nix/mac
02:38 <@RangerZ> 'now' been a while, but I finally just noticed last week or so
02:43 <@Dagmar> Cool.  I wondered whta RoboBob was spending all his time doing
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08:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:35 <@RangerZ> not sure if new router is 100% solution or if something on comcast's side + long hard-reset
08:35 <@RangerZ> either way, glad with outcome.... was tired of that nonsense
09:03 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: I spotted that about a month ago.  It runs so much better on the mac now that it isn't dependant on wine
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11:21 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: This one's for you. https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/636557949800988672
11:22 < PigBot`> Title: DPRK News Service on Twitter: "US, English colleges promote teaching of "gender studies." DPRK university students study mathematics, Kim Il-Sung thought, and ballistics!" (at twitter.com)
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14:23 <@Evilpig> all the facilities folks here are talking about this tv shooting
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14:39 < aestetix> Evilpig: who got shot?
14:40 <@Dagmar> What the hell is with the rock ballad in Tales from the BOrderlands
14:40 <@Dagmar> It's creepy
14:40 <@oddball> Hadn't really noticed it being creepy.
14:40 <@Evilpig> aestetix: some reporters
14:41 <@Dagmar> It's a _rock balland_ in the middle of a Borderlands game
14:41 <@Dagmar> er ballad
14:41 <@oddball> meh?
14:41 <@Dagmar> At least if it were jpop it would have to be something coming out of Gortys or a sure sign someone's about to be crushed by a giant robot
14:42 <@oddball> heh
14:42 <@Dagmar> Oh wait.  This is a subtle dig at Enterprise
14:42 <@Dagmar> heh
14:47 < aestetix> Evilpig: so white people. not newsworthy
14:49 <@oddball> A disgruntled employee of a local news network in Virginia decided it would be a good idea to shoot a reporter and camera man during a live interview.
14:50 < aestetix> wait is that real?
14:50 <@oddball> yep
14:50 < aestetix> I was just hoking
14:50 < aestetix> jesus
14:51 <@Evilpig> aestetix: https://video.buffer.com/v/55dddb5b6a08523a5f54e4aa
14:51 <@oddball> Dude apparently wrote a twitter post about it right before doing it, and posted a video of the act from his GoPro.
14:51 < aestetix> ....
14:53 <@oddball> Possible reason for the shooting: because the target was racist.
14:54 <@Evilpig> reason: shooter has some mental issues
14:54 <@oddball> well, yes
14:55 <@oddball> But we can't say that, because many people don't understand that there's the mental equivilent of diabetees and then there's the equivilent of ebola.
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15:13 < NotLarry> So, has anyone else sent out a finely crafted bait email to everyone on the Ashley Madison list of email accounts?
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15:34 <@northrup> does anyone else on here have Comcast business?
15:39 <@Evilpig> had.  does that count?
15:39 <@Evilpig> but oddball does currently
15:45 < NotLarry> I have
15:45 < NotLarry> And they marked it as Evilpig's company.  Weird.
15:48 < NotLarry> fm this imprit software...
15:49 < NotLarry> s/imprit/imprint
15:54 <@northrup> just looking to see if anyone was able to use a third party modem with business and still have static IP addresses
15:57 <@Evilpig> no
15:57 <@Evilpig> well... yes and no
15:57 <@Evilpig> mostly no
15:58 <@Evilpig> because they do that weird shit subnetting you have to have a modem that is a full fledged router
15:58 <@Evilpig> if you just plan on leaving your shit on and never renewing so you have a "static" ip then yes
15:59 <@Evilpig> iirc for a single static ip they assign you a /30
16:01 <@northrup> Yeah, I have a /29 with Comcast.
16:02 <@northrup> ... and for the past couple years I have used their SMC device
16:02 <@Evilpig> you have to use their crap.  there aren't any on the market that are capable iirc.  at least that was the story two years ago 
16:02 <@northrup> but here recently I've noticed that now that I'm actually PUSHING the SMC device that it drops pings when under load
16:02 <@Evilpig> I had bought a surfboard and it was approved for business then when I went to use it they gave me the big fuck you and "that isn't supported for static ips"
16:03 < NotLarry> I get latency issues out of them.
16:04 <@Evilpig> they have the business tiers listed on here again.  http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net/
16:04 < PigBot`> Title: DOCSIS Devices (at mydeviceinfo.comcast.net)
16:04 <@Evilpig> try the two cisco devices they have listed under business 200 and see if they match / will work
16:04 < NotLarry> Actually the only benefit I have seen from the busness class is 1)No cap and 2) they mistakenly think I work for Evilpig which cuts thorugh a lot of customer service crap.
16:04 <@Evilpig> can't hurt to pull the info up and call and yell at comcast to find out
16:04 <@northrup> Yeah - that is primarily why I was asking, because I was going to look at one of the cisco devices on their to replace that shit SMC
16:05 <@northrup> The only reason I'm on the business class plan is because I found that I could get them to give me money back if I kept tract of ticket numbers for when there were outages.
16:05 <@northrup> and because I don't have any caps
16:06 <@Evilpig> can't hurt to call and get a drone to say yay or nay
16:07 <@northrup> aye... calling the jokers now
16:07 <@northrup> "thank you for calling Comcast Business - Bulit for Business"
16:07 <@northrup> HA!
16:08 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Just watched that video. Somehow, I don't think GoPro is going to use that in marketing videos on YouTube.
16:08 <@northrup> _NSAKEY: I thought the same thing!
16:08 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: add some better sounds effects and a music bed on it
16:08 <@northrup> _NSAKEY: also about Glock too...
16:09 <@Evilpig> maybe some health bars just so you can sayd "PS4 more real than life"  or something 
16:09 < _NSAKEY> That's just crazy. Did the guy upload it before getting arrested?
16:09 <@Evilpig> apparently
16:12 < _NSAKEY> Someone just needs to make a school/public place shooting game just so these nerds can get this shit out of their systems.
16:19 <@Evilpig> http://wtkr.com/2015/08/26/suspected-active-shooter-investigation-involving-news-crew-underway-at-smith-mountain-lake/
16:19 < PigBot`> Title: Roanoke reporter, photographer killed by shooter during live news interview | WTKR.com (at wtkr.com)
16:19 <@Evilpig> latest update is claiming the shooter is blaming the church shooting as his tipping point
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16:50 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I bleieve some folks have made that game.  Once back when Jack Thompson was constantly in the news decrying violent video games, and there's a level on one of the Call of Duty games where you're on a team of terrorists shooting up an airport...
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16:55 <@SuMo_D> comment allez vous
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17:26 <@Dagmar> Well... Everyone knows more racist violence is always the answer to racist violence.
17:41 <@Evilpig> how have I never seen the metalocalypse opera?
17:44 <@oddball> There's a decent amount of evidence that points that this guy just wanted his name in the paper, and didn't give a shit how it got there.
17:45 <@oddball> And to him: congradu-fucking-lations, I heard NPR give out his full name, address, and age.
17:45 <@Evilpig> that is a fair take
17:47 <@oddball> He apparently faxed his manifesto to ABC News.  It spoke of various mass shooters with praise and basically refered to the kill counts as scores to admire/try to beat.
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17:50 <@Evilpig> rattle: you care to weigh in on the government's stance of the level of insanity present in the va shooter?
17:58 <@oddball> Evilpig: If I remember correctly, the VA shooter did show some mental issues, but hadn't been committed or anything.
17:58 <@Dagmar> Fucking fuck fuck fuck
17:58 <@Dagmar> Fuuuu-uuuuu-
17:58 <@Dagmar> "The previously filmed season finale of Mr. Robot contains a graphic scene similar in nature to today.s tragic events in Virginia. Out of respect to the victims, their families and colleagues, and our viewers, we are postponing tonight.s episode. Our thoughts go out to all those affected during this difficult time."
17:59 <@oddball> One of the issues with mass shooters is that they clearly have a screw loose (or else they wouldn't be mass shooters), but they tend to not display enough of an issue before hand to be able to weed them out.
17:59 <@oddball> Dagmar: I remember the same thing happened with the Graduation Day episode of Buffy.
18:01 <@northrup> Dagmar: WHAT THE FUCK!?!
18:01 <@oddball> It was scheduled to air the week of the Columbine shooting, and they decided that having a giant worm monster eating a school would be too traumatic.
18:02 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm ready to shoot a bunch of peopl wno
18:02 <@Dagmar> Maybe if we're lucky it'll be released on the torrent sites somehow
18:02 <@rattle> If they are just postponing it, it's really not that bad of a thing..  And sort of respectful.
18:03 <@oddball> Yeah... I can't blame them for delaying it for a week or two.
18:03 <@Dagmar> There's better be a shooting in a newsroom in the episode
18:03 <@rattle> I haven't been following the news today.  I'm just catching up on this shit now.
18:03 <@oddball> And the folks in the TV biz are rather shaken up about this, since it was some of their own.
18:05 <@rattle> This is completely senseless.
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18:05 <@Dagmar> It's also why we have automated systems to run broadcasters.
18:06 <@oddball> Jesus Christ.  Gizmodo ran an article saying that you shouldn't eat lettuce because it uses up too much water, and we're in a draught.  News to fuckers: we're not all in California.
18:06 <@Dagmar> Who runs Gizmodo?
18:07 <@oddball> I'm guessing a bunch of fuckers in Cali who don't understand that there's a land outside of California.
18:07 <@northrup> Watching the video... that dude stood there with a gun in their peripheral for what seems like a LONG time...
18:08 <@oddball> northrup: Yeah... I haven't watched the vid, but that's what my buddies in a gun realated channel were saying.
18:09 <@Dagmar> A man who was fired shows up unexpectedly, and people just ignore it
18:09 <@Dagmar> Good paln
18:09 <@Dagmar> er plan
18:10 <@rattle> Dude, they were working.  She was interviewing someone and the other guy was working the camera.
18:10 <@Dagmar> Of course, no one's going to talk about how he was "obviously" a racist since he was a black man shooting white people
18:10 <@rattle> And even if they did notice him, what they fuck should they have done?  Dropped their shit and run?
18:10 <@Dagmar> Well, if there's a dude with a fucking _gun_ in his hands
18:11 <@Dagmar> Being unable to survive dangerous situations because you ignored them is a pretty serious American pastime nowadays
18:11 <@oddball> Dagmar: And he was fired for declaring everyone at the company racist against him... and then sued for racial discrimination for being fired and lost.
18:11 <@Dagmar> It's time for maybe black people to admit that the anti-white sentiment is jsut as much bullshit as anti-black sentiment.
18:12 <@rattle> I haven't seen the video..  But it's not a stretch to thing the guy was standing there and the gun wasn't visible.
18:12 <@oddball> Yeah, I can understand both the reporter and the camera man failing to notice.
18:12 <@oddball> Dagmar: clearly, you're racist.
18:12 <@Dagmar> If a crazy black man tries to kill a bunch of white people because they're white, he's a "madman"
18:12 <@rattle> And serious Dagmar, it's pretty fucked up the blame the victim in situations like this.
18:12 <@oddball> rattle: nope.  The guy pulled it out and pointed it at them for a while.
18:13 <@northrup> Here's the video: https://video.buffer.com/v/55dddb5b6a08523a5f54e4aa
18:13 <@Dagmar> Im' not blaming the victims
18:13 <@rattle> oddball: Argh..  And they just didn't notice?  That's fucked.
18:13 <@rattle> Sad..
18:13 <@Dagmar> I'm criticizing _every_ motherfucker in the room at the time.
18:13 <@Dagmar> This isn't an "open carry" situation.  The weapon was out and being pointed at people.
18:13 <@Dagmar> That generally requires an _immediate_ response.
18:14 <@northrup> they're outside somewhere...
18:14 <@oddball> Ok... just watched the video.
18:14 <@northrup> I do like how the guy took the time to focus up his GoPro...
18:16 <@oddball> He was behind the camera man, but in peripheral view of both folks in the interview.  Looks a hell of a lot like he pulled the gun, paused, and got pissed off that they didn't notice/freak out that he pulled it.
18:16 <@Dagmar> I'm still loking for the shooter's camera footage
18:17 <@Dagmar> Oh nevermind
18:17 <@oddball> Dagmar: that's what northrup threw up.
18:17 <@Dagmar> GoPros' are self-focusing
18:17 <@northrup> oddball: that was my take... when he drew it and just stood there.
18:17 <@oddball> No way in hell that the camera man could have seen the gun, and the reporter and lady being interviewed were too busy with the interview to notice.
18:17 <@Dagmar> Ah, I see now
18:18 <@Dagmar> No one was looking in his direction
18:18 <@Dagmar> Dude is still a fuckwit
18:18 <@Dagmar> Betcha he shot those folks because he was just hoping to catch someone live, and finally saw the news van
18:19 <@oddball> I'm guessing that news reporters are basically taught not to notice what's going around them so that they don't get screwed up live on the air by some jack ass making faces, etc.
18:19 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh, no.  This was very much targeted.
18:20 <@rattle> I'm still waiting for it to load.  On a slow Internet connection.
18:20 < aestetix> where is NSAKEY
18:22 <@rattle> When I had active shooter response training, they pointed out that when the average non-trained person in a situation where an assaliant is first seen, they will have an adrenaline response and usually incapable of making a rational decision about course of action for a good 5-15 seconds.
18:22 < aestetix> rattle: they let you have a gun?
18:23 <@Dagmar> You only have to get shot at once or twice for htat response to change
18:23 <@rattle> Yes, but I don't have carry permits for anywhere that matters. I'm talking about training regarding structuring physical security stuff and response planning related to active shooters.
18:23 <@rattle> That's the problem.
18:23 < aestetix> benthemeek: ping
18:24 <@oddball> rattle: That seems a bit long for the fight/flight response to kick in.
18:24 <@rattle> That's the reality of it.
18:25 <@rattle> That's what the bulk of the population will do:  be in shock and disbelief for a good few seconds.  And in that situation, those are pretty fucking valuable seconds.
18:26 <@oddball> I would love to see the research on that.
18:26 <@rattle> Even folks with training when caught off guard have a delayed response.
18:26 <@rattle> I'm sure DHS has it publicly available somewhere in their maze of websites.
18:26 <@rattle> Or it can be gotten at thru InfraGard, if you can find it in their piss pile of a portal.
18:26 <@oddball> I've also heard trainers tell people that when you get an adreniline dump, everything will move entirely too fast, and you're hands will turn into flippers.
18:28 <@oddball> 1. Time tends to dialate during an adrenline dump (the exact opposite of "too fast", and 2. they're tring to tell me "your fine motor control will go out the window, but you'll still be able to pull the a trigger... which requires fine motor control."
18:28 <@rattle> It's probably referenced somewhere linked off here:  http://www.dhs.gov/active-shooter-preparedness
18:30 <@rattle> The most effective training programs for basic training revolve around the idea of getting the mantra of "escape, hide, fight" deeply engrained in people's heads, so that if they find themselves in a situation they will make their decision quicker.
18:30 <@rattle> Because, those are basically your only decisions, and in that order.
18:30 <@oddball> Sounds about right
18:31 <@rattle> http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_pocket_card.pdf
18:31 <@oddball> hmmm.... "untrained..."
18:31 <@rattle> One of the only things DHS is good for is providing all sorts of fodder for training programs.
18:31 <@rattle> Tons of it.
18:31 <@oddball> maybe... Now that I think about it, there are a lot of people out there that just can't comprehend that violence might actually happen *to them.*
18:32 <@rattle> There are the basic sort of lecture sort of training that you'd do for average folks..  Then there's real training, where situational situations are created.  But that's typically only done with LEO and physical security type folks.
18:32 <@oddball> right
18:32 <@rattle> Hell, even if you think violence can happen to you..  When you find yourself in that situation, you very well might stand there in shock for ten seconds.  That's reality.
18:33 <@oddball> I could see the 5-6 seconds.  It's the 10-15 that is causing me issue.
18:34 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't mind a little shock.  :/
18:34 <@rattle> Just watched the video.  They clearly had no idea what the fuck was going on and were focused on what they were doing at the time.
18:35 <@oddball> yep.  And there was nobody else around paying attention either.
18:35 <@rattle> She was talking comfortably with the person she was interviewing at the time.  She had no idea what was up.
18:35 <@oddball> Which doesn't surprise me.
18:35 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I suspect a lack of sense of timing might also have something to do with why he was fired
18:35 <@rattle> There is no way that guy was even remotely right in the head.
18:36 <@rattle> God damn, I feel bad for those people and their famlies.
18:36 <@oddball> yeah
18:36 <@Dagmar> Now let's watch twitter for all the angry black people's responses
18:36 < aestetix> uh
18:37 <@rattle> They clearly suffered.  She had several rounds in her, and was running away.  Nothing about that death was quick.
18:37 < aestetix> Dagmar: isn't the twitter anger usually from white people?
18:37 <@Dagmar> No, they just built twitter
18:37 <@oddball> aestetix: No, Twitter is for stupid people of all races.
18:37 <@rattle> wtf?
18:38 <@Dagmar> ...but it would be just fine and dandy if everyone called out the people complaining about the church shooting who will now predictably remain silent.
18:38 <@Dagmar> ...particularly since there's this cool trend of lambasting "white people" because they didn't express the appropriate levels of outrage while they were busy doing other things.
18:39 <@oddball> Dagmar: We've gone over this before... you expecting equality makes you a racist.
18:39 < aestetix> What about wanting black people to leave?
18:40 <@rattle> sigh
18:40 <@Dagmar> Well, let's just say I'm going to enjoy having some undodgable ammunition the next time I hear silly-ass claims being made about whether or not someone like Bernie Sanders is just as good as a racist because he hasn't done anything partiuclarly outspoken lately
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18:40 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: check your email
18:40 <@Dagmar> I'm looking for ammo against SJWs--no pun intended.
18:40 <@Dagmar> Slap them with their own hypocrisy until they have a stroke from frustration
18:41 < aestetix> just ask them if they think Obama is a keynesian
18:41 <@Dagmar> The deniable biases, the holier-than-thou crap, the _constant_ demands for more and more attention _has to stop_.
18:41 <@Dagmar> It's getting in the way of actual progress
18:42 <@rattle> It's remarkably easy to simply ignore people who are annoying.
18:42 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh, it's different when they do the bad things.
18:43 <@Dagmar> No, it's only different to the hypocrits.
18:43 <@oddball> I have been straight up told that exact phrase.
18:43 <@Dagmar> Oh I have been, too.  I have a rebuttal for it that involves larger words than those people are capable of dealing with, so it's pretty effective.
18:44 <@oddball> When I pointed out that other folks had done the whole slate voting block thing for the Hugos, I was told that that was different and it's more evil that the Sad Puppies did it.
18:44 <@oddball> For the most part, I have found that SJWs are hypocrits.
18:44 <@Dagmar> Oh, I'm going to keep leaning on Kelly Haliburton about that
18:44 <@Dagmar> Sure, we've got actual biases and unfairness.
18:45 <@Dagmar> Having nitwits drowning out everything else is fucking unproductive in the extreme.
18:45 <@oddball> Also see: "you should expand your horizons and never read books written by white men."
18:46 <@oddball> Now, the Rabid Puppy stuff... Yeah... Vox Day can go die in a fire.
18:46 <@Dagmar> Vox Day was just an excuse for the SJW's to refuse to be reasonable
18:46 <@Dagmar> It's possible he can take some credit for making them so angry they'd be obvious enough to _prove_ that they're both guilty of tampering with the process, as well as incredibly dumb.
18:47 <@oddball> From what I've seen, he *is* everything that they've been screaming about.
18:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but that doesn't bear on the fact that they called for people to vote "no award" in every category that had an author/editor that the Sad Puppies liked.
18:48 <@Dagmar> They just used him as an excuse to pretend that the reasonable people were also evil.
18:48 <@Dagmar> Perhaps we can get Vox to come out in favor of breathing.
18:49 <@oddball> oh, yes... the whole "if we don't get our way, we'll burn this place to the ground" bullshit is breathtaking.
18:49 <@oddball> And remember that they were still claiming that they weren't doing the exact thing they were complaining about.
18:50 <@Dagmar> I've yet to see Kelly or her pals respond to me posting the exact URL to the site where they were calling for that.
18:51 <@Dagmar> Apparently only SJws are allowed to attempt to influence a voting system.
18:53 <@oddball> yep
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22:46 <@Dagmar> I'mma light some bitches UP tonight
22:46 <@northrup> heh
22:47 <@Dagmar> Some of the thick skulled squad are having a fit on Facebook about the banner that MTSU frat hung up
22:47 <@Dagmar> "FRESHMAN GIRLS INFO CENTER"
22:47 <@Dagmar> That's as tame as tame gets, and it was obviously a joke.
22:47 <@Dagmar> "It is widely known that there is a rape culture on many, if not most college campuses. Females are objectified. The meaning of the banner is to get unsuspecting new "fresh meat" to come to the frat house. It is a bullying tactic at the very least. It tells the new female students "You are here for our pleasure."
22:47 <@Dagmar> If it said WELCOME FRESHMEN it would be different. But it targets females in an overtly sexual way. They don't want to help those girls. They want to help themselves TO those girls."
22:49 <@northrup> oh FFS
22:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm just going to remain silent anymore when I see bullshit like this
22:53 <@Dagmar> I'm taking this woman to task over her delusions
22:53 <@Dagmar> She's already tried a "Well, if you don't see the sexual implications it's because you've never been whistled at and told you should like it."
22:53 <@Dagmar> Dumb bitch.  I've been a lot more than whistled at.
22:54 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Do you have the videos of you being peppersprayed to prove it?
22:54 <@Dagmar> No.  Why do I need to prove I've been pepper sprayed?
22:55 < _NSAKEY> Good point. This person probably already thinks you're a horrible monster, and wouldn't need evidence.
22:56 <@Dagmar> Dude, I used to hang out at Connections and The Chute
22:56 <@Dagmar> None of this "you've never been subjected to unwanted fliratation" shit is going to fly with me
22:56 <@Dagmar> The sign that frat put up is fucking tame and there would be no question about it if another frat elsewhere hadn't gone _way_ too far
22:57 <@Dagmar> She started using the phrase "rape culture" pretty quick
22:57 <@Dagmar> I invited her to talk to Jamie Swenk about that one
23:00 <@northrup> LOL Jamie
23:01 <@northrup> I honestly *would* like to turn Jamie loose on some of those folks
23:55 <@rattle> Dagmar, you're becoming sort of an asshole.
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