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00:43 <@northrup> hey oddball or Evilpig ... either one of you sitting on some 1080p of STNG?
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08:15 < aestetix> win 3
08:15 < aestetix> oops
08:22 <@Dagmar> northrup: You're aware that show is generally 4:3 only, right?
08:22 <@Dagmar> Like, it pre-dates anyone really even thinking about widescreen televisions
08:23 <@Dagmar> FWIW, BBC America shows it _all the time_ (practically) on weekends, despite it being 4:3.
08:23 <@Dagmar> I'm not quite sure when "British" became "Space-faring" but they're practically the only white people active in that space right now so...
08:24 <@Dagmar> Only 180gb of filecopyling left
08:35 <@Evilpig> northrup: yes I have it
08:36 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: stng was re-released, remastered to 1080 on bluray
08:38 <@Evilpig> and the aspect ratio is still 4:3
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09:08 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yes, because it was shot for TV
09:08 <@Dagmar> I know they regularly record for TV with as high a resolution as they can get, so if they need to change a shot to be a close-up later, they can.
09:09 <@Dagmar> Widescreen, on the other hand, is just a thing that wasn't done unless something was meant for theatrical release
09:14 <@opticron> huh...a reasonably sized phone: http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/10/9123851/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-4-7-availability-price-launch
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09:43 <@Evilpig> I'd like to see this drone video.  surely someone mirrored it before it was set to private
09:47 <@Dagmar> Same here
10:52 < _NSAKEY> Are you talking about the guys in Kentucky?
11:00 <@Evilpig> yeah
11:01 < _NSAKEY> I read the article on a computer that's so CPU starved that it can't play videos and do audio at the same time, so I didn't watch it.
11:01 < _NSAKEY> Not nearly enough people know about tools like quvi, or this wouldn't be a problem.
11:05 < oddball> ouch
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11:14 <@oddball> and... the ATF just told someone that they don't have to respond to FOI requests because it's... not an agency?
11:15 <@oddball> my head hurts
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11:28 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'd love to know why they don't consider themselves an agency.
11:28 < _NSAKEY> Does that mean that we can assume all of their actions are illegal?
11:28 < _NSAKEY> Does that mean if some suspect blows one of them away, that it's not a cop killing?
11:29 <@oddball> Their written response to the suit filed against them for failure to respond failed to elaberate on that one.
11:30 <@oddball> Of course, the ATF seems to be batshit in general and likes to make shit up as they go along.
11:30 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, they're worse than a lot of other federal agencies in that regard.
11:31 < _NSAKEY> Even the DEA isn't as greasy.
11:32 < _NSAKEY> They recently got outed for spending 13 seconds on average reviewing informants when it came time to renew their contracts.
11:32 <@oddball> wow
11:33 < _NSAKEY> It came from some FOIAed DEA audit.
11:33 < _NSAKEY> https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2015/jul/22/dea-audit/
11:33 < PigBot> Title: MuckRock DEA audit blasts handling of informant program (at www.muckrock.com)
11:33 <@oddball> And remember that a lot of the laws that they're in charge of enforcing are pretty damned vague and leave it up to them to actually define what's legal and what's not.
11:33 < _NSAKEY> That's the same story at all levels.
11:34 < _NSAKEY> I'll give you an example that deals with local cops.
11:34 < _NSAKEY> There's this stupid legal loophole in TN that allows you to junk a car without a title if it's over 12 years old.
11:34 <@oddball> right
11:34 < _NSAKEY> Some people who get title loans do that with the car afterwards.
11:34 < _NSAKEY> Some of them try to prosecute, others don't.
11:35 < _NSAKEY> La Vergne PD's stance is pretty much "It's a civil matter, GTFO."
11:35 < _NSAKEY> Other PDs are actually letting them file reports, if the owner of the car brought it in themselves.
11:36 < _NSAKEY> If they sold it to one of dozens of people with 80s wreckers and "WE BUY JUNK CARS" signs, and that person took it in... Absolutely nothing is going to happen.
11:36 <@oddball> What, they get the title loan money, then junk the car so the title loan company has nothing to reppo?
11:36 < _NSAKEY> Yes.
11:36 < _NSAKEY> Exactly.
11:36 <@oddball> gotcha
11:36 <@Dagmar> I have to say that I find that somewhat smusing
11:36 <@Dagmar> er amusing
11:36 < _NSAKEY> I've even seen cases in the past where someone will get 3-4 duplicate titles, then get loans using every title over the course of a day or two.
11:36 < _NSAKEY> Then, of course, the car gets junked.
11:36 <@Dagmar> There's an odd sort of parity to fucking over a loan shark
11:38 <@oddball> Somehow, the LaVergne PD's response reminds me of Nashville PD's response to the Chevy dealer selling people vehicles at a great deal, coming by in the middle of the night, towing it back to the lot, and reselling it a few years back.
11:38 <@Dagmar> Wow yeah I remember that
11:39 <@Dagmar> They probably took it up the ass in court over that
11:40 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Did they actually let the people make payments?
11:40 < _NSAKEY> Or was there some predatory bullshit going on?
11:40 < _NSAKEY> Almost sounds like you're talking about Bill Heard.
11:40 <@Dagmar> One dude bought his truck with cash
11:40 <@oddball> Oh, there were no payments involved.
11:41 <@Dagmar> THe dealership "changed their mind" on the deal later and repo'd the truck
11:41 <@oddball> yep
11:41 < _NSAKEY> In which case, fuck those guys. I stole a car off their trade-in lot once, and even got spotted by a security guard.
11:41 <@oddball> Told the folks that "it was a mistake and we shouldn't have sold it to you for that."
11:41 < _NSAKEY> I just froze. He probably assumed I was dropping something off. If only he had known...
11:42 <@oddball> They did offer to give him the truck back if he coughed up a few more thousand bucks... oh, and hurry because here's this nice couple that also wants to buy it.
11:42 < _NSAKEY> It really sounds like you guys are talking about Bill Heard.
11:42 <@oddball> Yes we are.
11:44 < _NSAKEY> The last time I heard anything, that guy had fled the country and was thought to be in Canada.
11:44 < _NSAKEY> That was years ago, though.
11:44 <@oddball> hahahahaha
11:45 <@oddball> I hadn't heard about that.
11:45 < _NSAKEY> I had a family connection to the local GM dealer gossip, so I did.
11:46 < _NSAKEY> When I say Canada, I don't mean near the border.
11:46 < _NSAKEY> The implication was that he went somewhere remote and cold.
11:46 < _NSAKEY> Who knows if it was true or not.
11:46 <@oddball> I hop ehe froze to death.
11:49 < _NSAKEY> I hope he went to some place like Devon Island.
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15:35 <@rattle> Boooored
15:37  * Evilpig hands rattle a hammer
15:53 < Warcop> go play ingree
15:53 < Warcop> ingress
15:58 < Warcop> I need a suggestion for a decent android on a pre-paid plan such as straight talk
15:58 < Warcop> I'm droid illiterate
16:02 < aestetix> penis
16:03 < aestetix> Who desigend this year's phreaknic website?
16:03 < aestetix> it's actually pretty good
16:04 <@Evilpig> ben I thought
16:04 < aestetix> also
16:05 < aestetix> "Please enter the name or nickname you want everyone to know you as at PhreakNIC."
16:05 <@Evilpig> simple bootstrap site, iirc
16:05 < aestetix> much better wording :)
16:09 <@oddball> Yep, I believe it's ben
16:48 < _NSAKEY> It's all ben's fault.
16:51 <@opticron> Warcop, what carrier?
16:52  * opticron looks up what carrier straight talk is
16:53 <@opticron> ehh, just grab the new moto g
17:13 < _NSAKEY> Warcop: It depends on which towers you want to use.
17:14 < _NSAKEY> Some of the phones under the Carlos Slim pre-paid phone umbrella use Verizon towers, and others use AT&T.
17:14 < _NSAKEY> Phones that use T-Mobile and Sprint towers aren't unheard of.
17:26 <@opticron> Warcop, what do you look for in a phone?
17:27 <@opticron> do you have physical size preferences? internal/expansion storage preferences? resolution preferences?
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17:55 <@SuMo_D> commet-allez vous?
17:55  * Evilpig gets a torch
17:55 <@SuMo_D> *comment
17:56  * Evilpig gets a pitch fork
18:01 <@Dagmar> Goddamnit
18:02 <@Dagmar> Apparently I had a power failure at just _the_ wrong time at some point in the past when working on my fileserver
18:02 <@Dagmar> After a detailed poking at, _both_ drives are showing a reallocated sector count of zero
18:03 <@Dagmar> 240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       96958886711282
18:04 <@Dagmar> Of course, some of the other values aren't perhaps as correct as they should be
18:04 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty fucking sure that in no way, shape, or form, is that a legit figure
18:05 <@Dagmar> Still... 49699 seems about right for lifetime powered up hours
18:11 <@Evilpig> that sucks.
18:11 <@Evilpig> bad luck is the worst diagnosis possible
18:14 <@Dagmar> Well, it means these drives are still fit for duty, but I _have_ blown almsot an entire day testing the fuck out of them
18:15 <@Dagmar> # 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     25647         -
18:17 <@Evilpig> awww crap
18:17 <@Evilpig> # 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       60%     55593         57387
18:18 <@Evilpig> and on the other too
18:18 <@Evilpig> # 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       60%     55863         398285347
18:18 <@Evilpig> yup.  time to replace those
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18:23 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: did you zero them yet?
18:24 <@Dagmar> The fun thing I've been reminded of today is that the SMART tests don't do a fucking thing about a cooked sector that can be rewritten
18:24 <@Dagmar> Target just those sectors with dd bs=4096 seek=$((LBA_NUMBAR/8)) count=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/thatdisk
18:25 <@Dagmar> You should see the pending count go down
18:25 <@Dagmar> WHen i rushed out to buy a 2Tb disk I had forgotten the fuckers won't fixor themselves
18:26 <@Evilpig> nah.  these are probably every bit of 10 years old and are in need of replacement
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18:27 <@Evilpig> they're still pata for fucks sake
18:37 <@Dagmar> I have a pair of 250Gb PATA drives here I'm tyring to make a decision on
18:37 <@Dagmar> They are noisy little fuckers
18:39 <@Evilpig> indeed
18:45 <@Evilpig> this may prove to be a mistake but i'm installing windows 10 on my desktop
18:45 <@Evilpig> after that's done i'm gonna make a usb installer then do a clean install on it
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