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00:11 <@Catonic> what did I miss?!
00:17 <@Catonic> That much?! Aw, shucks!
00:57 <@Dagmar> oh my gaaawd
01:01 < aestetix> huh
01:01 < aestetix> is Nashville having gentrification issues too?
01:01 <@Dagmar> Nope
01:05 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: That wave already came and went in East Nashville.
01:06 < _NSAKEY> The hipsters overran the old neighborhoods like orcs through a castle gate in a Lord of the Rings movie.
01:06 < aestetix> unrelated..... do you guys actually know anyone who peaked in highschool? who keeps reliving moments they had?
01:07 <@Dagmar> That would require I still saw anyone I went to high school with
01:07 < aestetix> reading a rather depressing reddit thread
01:07 < aestetix> Dagmar: indeeed, same here
01:07 <@Dagmar> Goddamn they practically lifted Iron Mountain's logo
01:08 < aestetix> I got contacted by someone about 5 years ago.... I think I was on his list.
01:08 < aestetix> where someone gets reflective and makes a list of things from high school they want to apologize for
01:08 < aestetix> I don't even remember what it was about, I'm like "dude I barely remember you"
01:12 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I saw a few of those people last summer.
01:15 <@Catonic> uh
01:15 <@Catonic> about that... my high school class had a ten year reunion and like ... no one showed. So they rescheduled for a park and like 13 people came.
01:15 <@Catonic> that was out of a high school with a total cap of 2500 students
01:15 <@Catonic> and at cap that year.
01:16 < _NSAKEY> Catonic: That almost happened to my reunion. They shot for some hotel in downtown, and only about a dozen people were going to go.
01:16 <@Catonic> I swear to God, a lot of people just didn't want to admit to other people that they were still living at home or working career jobs at Wal*Mart or Wendy's
01:16 < _NSAKEY> They relocated it a week beforehand to some place in Murfreesboro, and about 60 people came.
01:17 <@Catonic> Anyone who went to college... could not be located. Period.
01:18 < aestetix> I think I had a reunion or two
01:18 < aestetix> but was too busy with other things to notice :p
01:19 <@Catonic> you weren't missing much
01:19 <@Catonic> it's mostly a parade of "how have you been, here's my crotchfruit, why don't you have any?"
01:20 < aestetix> well my assumption is it's a bunch of dudes sitting around drinking and stuff
01:20 < aestetix> well and girls
01:20 < aestetix> yeah the guy who contacted me..... he was wondering what I've been up to, and I tried to share some stories, and he literally could not understand any of it
01:20 <@Catonic> though the shocker was talking to this girl I went to school with.. "so, what have you been doing?" "Oh, I'm a stay at home mom, working on getting my 15 year old daughter started with her modeling..."
01:21 < aestetix> for example, the idea of going to phreaknic
01:21 < aestetix> would have blown his mind
01:21 <@Catonic> *quick mental check: eval(time_from_hs,time_to_present_day)
01:21 <@Catonic> *result: fail
01:22 < aestetix> uh was she preggers in high school?
01:22 <@Catonic> "Wait, high school wasn't 15 years ago..." "Yeah, don't you remember, I dropped out my sophmore year..."
01:22 < aestetix> haha
01:22 <@Catonic> she's got like a solid 10 years on every other mother
01:23 < _NSAKEY> Catonic: That's nothing. My class had a girl who got pregnant when she was 12.
01:23 <@Catonic> hell, if her daughter is anything like her, she'll be a 31 year old grandmother
01:23 < aestetix> lol
01:23 < _NSAKEY> She didn't drop out, either. I guess her parents raised the kid? Never asked.
01:23 < aestetix> Catonic: one of my relatives was a grandmother at 36
01:24 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: that is most likely
01:24 <@Catonic> yeah, some of those mothers are ... terrible people
01:36 < aestetix> oh wow
01:36 < aestetix> https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=peaked in high school
01:37 < PigBot`> Title: peaked - Google Search (at encrypted.google.com)
01:37 < aestetix> look how many threads there are
01:48 <@Catonic> now look at your mom
01:48 <@Catonic> <insert "I'm 14 and I find this funny" joke>
03:08 <@Evilpig> huzzah!  i'm home...  and to my surprise while I was gone apparently someone came in here to clean my drier vent and.... turned my a/c off
03:08 <@Evilpig> it's currently 82 in here and it's been dark for 6+ hours...
03:56 <@Dagmar> Sounds like here
03:57 <@Dagmar> So... the Dark Army holds court on Freenode, apparnetly.
03:57 <@Dagmar> heh
04:03 <@Dagmar> Wow. That new Arby's commercial should have an FDA warning attached.
04:04 <@Dagmar> "Warning: Consuming a burger containing this much bacon will raise your risk of heart attack by 5%.  Every time."
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08:05 < aestetix> http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/07/rachel-dolezal-new-interview-pictures-exclusive
08:05 < PigBot`> Title: An Interview With Rachel Dolezal: "Its not a costume" | Vanity Fair (at www.vanityfair.com)
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12:57 <@jb7od> northrup: whatup man?
12:57 <@jb7od> yeah, that was upsetting to say the very least.
12:57 <@jb7od> lol
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13:06 <@northrup> Aye
13:06 <@jb7od> Whatup man? Yeah- that shit was scary.
13:06 <@jb7od> Sweetpea said "thank god I didn't get one..." :*/
13:08 <@northrup> Gha! See - I would have rather seen it on Sweetpea!
13:08 <@jb7od> No chance of that now.
13:09 <@northrup> man that Donkey still fucks shit up even POST papers...
13:10 <@jb7od> Yeah- that's so psycho.
13:10 <@jb7od> I need to get a court-ordered laser removal on her...
13:12 <@northrup> Ha!
13:12 <@northrup> probably old news here, but have you watched the video of the guys hacking the Jeep Grand Cherokee wirelessly?
13:14 <@jb7od> no, but I heard about it sort of- whatup with it?
13:17 <@jb7od> I'll just tell em: Crazy ex gets same surname-specific tattoo as myself and puts it on instagram to the horror of onlookers.
13:17 <@northrup> There is a cellular network in the head-end of most Chrysler cars manufactured after 2010 that allows a remote query service, remote query service - once hacked also allows things like
13:17 <@northrup> execution of commands on the CAN network, which controls all the cars functions
13:18 <@jb7od> well that sucks HAHAHA! functions like what? turn the air on hot or deploy airbag or what?
13:18 <@opticron> most functionality of the vehicle...
13:19 <@oddball> northrup: Yep... and here's the thing: most car manufacturers have started building similar services.
13:19 <@opticron> transmission control, steering in some circumstances
13:19 <@opticron> windshield wipers/fluid
13:19 <@jb7od> I guess I'm glad I'm not rollin in the e-class... lol
13:19 <@oddball> Right... because manufacturers have started to build cars with steer by wire instead of old fashioned mechanical linkage.
13:20 <@northrup> Yeaap...
13:20 <@northrup> they also disabled his brakes and killed his engine
13:20 <@oddball> There have been a few folks jumping up and down that connecting the engine's computer that controls everything and has zero security built in to any form of wireless communication is a bad idea, but no one has paid attention.
13:23 <@northrup> Right - and then on top of that the car companies want to say that the software is DRM protected, and as such NOBODY should be allowed to look at it.
13:23 <@northrup> they try to quash bug fingers with DRM takedown notices
13:23 <@oddball> right
13:24 <@oddball> Oh, and if you actually fuck with the car computer, it's no longer road legal due to EPA regs.
13:26 <@oddball> Which also makes engine swaps a bitch with modern cars.  It's hard as hell to put in an engine that wasn't factory.
13:27 <@northrup> WTF are we coming to?
13:27  * opticron just drives an old truck to avoid these problems
13:28 <@northrup> This increasing trend has made me say things in the past like "the only computer that I want on my car is the one that controls fuel injection and engine advance timing.
13:28 <@oddball> Yeah, but it's getting harder and harder to drive a pre-1996 vehicle every year.
13:28 <@opticron> it certainly is
13:28  * opticron reached all the way back to 1963
13:28 <@oddball> nice
13:29 <@opticron> and I live in alabama
13:29 <@opticron> the government here gives fuck all about epa reg checks on vehicles
13:29 <@oddball> On one hand, I like having a diagnostic computer built into my car, on the other hand, I was happier when emmisions was "shove a sensor up the tailpipe."
13:37  * Evilpig just drives opticron's truck when he isn't paying attention
13:47 <@oddball> Because yours is too busy leaking fuel onto the ground? :p
13:53 <@Evilpig> I got that fixed
13:53 <@oddball> Well, that's good.
14:02 <@opticron> Evilpig, it wouldn't be hard
14:03 <@opticron> but most people don't know how to drive a vehicle with stick these days let alone 4 sticks
14:05 <@Evilpig> okay there was the first real laugh i got from mr. robot.  he's watching a promo video for steel mountain and they're saying they are a diamond certified tier 10 datacenter.
14:21 <@Evilpig> that raspberry pi hack would have been more believable if there had just been a jack behind the panel and they did some type of inline mount of the pi rather than that splicing silliness
14:37 <@oddball> opticron: 4 sticks?  I'm guessing it's 4 wheel drive, which would account for the second.  Where do 3 and 4 come in?
14:37 <@oddball> Unless you're counting the hand-brake for 3.
14:38 <@opticron> nope, foot brake
14:39 <@opticron> oddball, main shifter, overdriver shifter, twin-sticked transfer case (np205)
14:39 <@oddball> ahhh ok
14:40 <@oddball> Yeah, that would fuck most people up.
14:41 <@northrup> This looks kind of promising: http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.05724v1
14:41 < PigBot`> Title: [1507.05724v1] HORNET: High-speed Onion Routing at the Network Layer (at arxiv.org)
14:43 <@Evilpig> indeed
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15:06 <@Dagmar> wheee fun
15:07 <@Dagmar> nearly dislocated a hip in my sleep
15:07 <@Dagmar> Woke up just in time to _feel_ that I was about to dislocate it
15:08 <@northrup> How?!
15:13 <@Evilpig> self-rape.  it's a very under reported crime
15:16 <@Dagmar> northrup: Agony?
15:16 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty loose jointed to begin with
15:20 <@Dagmar> Ah... there we go.  Found the paperwork Vandy had sent me where they claimed I'd be getting a raise to $68k in the new department (that didn't happen)
15:21 <@Dagmar> It and the other paperwork where they said title and salary adjustments would be made on the basis of prior experience and skills as well as current job duties
15:21 <@Dagmar> It's in my "insurance" hanging file now.
16:51 <@dasunt> I have 13 tickets in the queue.  Five are from the same person.
16:52 <@dasunt> Make that six.
16:53 <@dasunt> Three are minor future requests.
16:53 <@dasunt> So out of the 10 real tickets in my queue, half are generated by the same person.
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17:26 <@northrup> don't you love that...
17:27 <@northrup> and I bet they are all P1 this is a critical issue too
17:46 <@dasunt> northrup: They are very critical, but she doesn't have time to work with me on them.
17:46 <@dasunt> <-<
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18:30 <@northrup> Well shit - they sold the land that JJ's market is on for 2.4 million
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19:42 <@rattle> While I adore Amtrak, when the train is loaded, the bandwidth leaves a little bit to be desired...
19:45 <@Dagmar> It would be a shame if something happened to a lot of those connections.
19:46 <@rattle> It would be.
19:46 < _NSAKEY> Also highly illegal, but probably in the funnest way possible.
19:46 <@Dagmar> ...although I'll admit it's a lot of work to do that precisely.
19:46 <@Dagmar> Ran into the issue at Bongo a couple of times, and what it came down to was Apple Users + Torrent clients == FINFINFINFIN
19:47 <@rattle> Yea, a well sequenced RST here and there never hurt no one...
19:48 <@rattle> The free wifi on Amtrak is actually decent all things considered.  They do block high bandwidth stuff like bittorrent and a few sites (youtube in some circumstances), but it's all sorta reasonable.
19:49 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Is that because Apple users don't know about the magic of rtorrent + tmux + a remote VPS?
19:49 <@rattle> It's basically a funnel of several hundred people on laptops draining all 4G/LTE bandwidth in the area as it goes by 150mph.  The on train WiFi is just pulling from that net ateotd.
19:49 <@Dagmar> I suspect it's because they don't realize how much that clogs up a masquerading router with very little memory
19:50 <@Dagmar> The amount the connection got better just from killing torrent users off was disproportionately high.
19:50 <@Dagmar> Latency shouldn't have dropped that much
19:55 <@rattle> I'd actually be curious to know exactly how the math worked out running a wifi network for a train like this..
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20:25 <@Dagmar> So apparently Technobiological (resistance player) ran into an old housemate of mine in Columbia today
20:25 <@Dagmar> _How_ I came up, I have no idea.
20:25 <@Dagmar> Dave Cooper.  THe _real_ skinny guy who used to live in Casa de Ocala with Dru and I.
20:25 <@Dagmar> He sent me a hangout invite over G+ and I didn't even recognize him until I went digging through the pictures on his profile
20:26 <@Dagmar> There's about 2-3x as much of him now as there was then
20:26 <@Dagmar> Apparently the Marines force-fed him mashed potatoes and creatine or something
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20:50 < aestetix> garrison keilor is retiring :/
20:54 <@northrup> Yeah... I'm in that blasphemous crowd that isn't really sad about that
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21:06 <@rattle> Dagmar: I don't remember Dave..  I'm guessing that was before my time as a Regulador in the Villa de Ocala, resident in the déspota resulting from the perezoso living downstairs.
21:11 <@Dagmar> Possible
21:31 < aestetix> northrup: why not?
21:31 < aestetix> I love that show
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22:48 <@Dagmar> "A Waller County, Texas, prosecutor confirmed Thursday that, according to preliminary autopsy results, Sandra Bland had marijuana in her system at the time of her death, which was also ruled a suicide by hanging, consistent with original police statements, CNN reports. "
22:48 <@Dagmar> How is it she was in jail for two days, but somehow managed to get weed into her system/
22:48 <@Dagmar> She'd have to have been FANTASTICALLY blazed for it to still be a factor that matters two days later
22:49 < k3ymkr> I thought marijuana could be in your system for 30 days
23:11 <@Dagmar> Not in levels that would be relevant to an autopsy
23:11 <@Dagmar> n
23:15 <@Dagmar> Yay I spilled mocha in my damn keyboard
23:21 <@Dagmar> Soooo... I guess I'll be spending tomorrow taking it apart and giving it another thorough cleaning.
23:21 <@Dagmar> ...because it's only marginally more complex than field stripping a goddamn F15.
23:22 <@Dagmar> $70 would get me another G510s, and it would almost be a time saver
23:27 <@Dagmar> Just be glad you don't live wherever the hell this is: https://twitter.com/NWSNorman/status/623926517924413440/photo/1
23:27 < PigBot`> Title: NWS Norman on Twitter: "Check it out! Rangers at Copper Breaks State Park confirmed the radar is picking up grasshoppers & beetles! #texomawx http://t.co/lBWjvai7Zw" (at twitter.com)
23:35 <@oddball> Evilpig: random quote from friend: "on second thought, don.t fuck tumblr, never stick your dick in crazy."
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23:47 <@northrup> oddball: Excellent quote!
23:49 <@northrup> Dagmar: you using the G510 on linux or windows?
23:50 <@Dagmar> Both.
23:50 <@Dagmar> I have yet to bother installing any sort of drivers for it under Linux
23:50 <@Dagmar> I meddled with that a bit when I was using the G15.
23:50  * northrup nods
23:50 <@northrup> that's more what I was wondering
23:50 <@Dagmar> Mainly, I'm thinking the thing to do is just to write a piece of Java that handles both
23:51 <@Dagmar> The ARX operational model is a good idea.  Smart phones have much better displays than is economical to stick on a keyboard.
23:51 <@Dagmar> However, the ARX implementation is a fucking blasphemous plaintext crapfest
23:52 <@northrup> LOL!
23:52 <@Dagmar> I'm not joking.
23:52 <@Dagmar> the fucking thing uses mDNS to find the keyboard.
23:52 <@Dagmar> That's not a real problem.
23:52 <@northrup> the quest for the perfect keyboard continues...
23:52 <@northrup> ohh .. fucking mDNS
23:52 <@Dagmar> ...but then it logs into the daemon provided by ARX on the PC end and basically... it's security is like bluetooth.
23:53 <@northrup> I've been doing some home projects and that shit pisses me off. None of these products were EVER meant to be installed in a segmented network
23:53 <@Dagmar> The first time around it asks for permission, then exchanges a short secret.
23:53 <@northrup> so... no security really if you're close enough to it ;)
23:53 <@Dagmar> ...which is worthless nonsense.
23:53 <@Dagmar> It does it all over plaintext.
23:54 <@Dagmar> Liks, FFS, doing this in Java with SSL is just _not_ very hard.
23:54 <@northrup> but, but, but... that might take EFFORT
23:54 <@Dagmar> What bugs me is that it's _not that much_ effort
23:56 <@northrup> Yeah - as are most things... for example my bitching about audio hardware. FFS give me an option to specify a unicast target instead of the _ONLY_ way you can connect to something is if you discover if via mDNS
23:56 <@Dagmar> I don't have a problem with mDNS
23:56 <@Dagmar> It solves the problem it's supposed to when used in the proper scope
23:56 <@Dagmar> ...but in this case, you'd be mad to fire ARX up on say, the Vanderbilt dormitory network
23:57 <@northrup> my probem is people who impliment it without ever thinking of anything else that "this will only ever run on a single subnet with just my shit on it"
23:57 <@northrup> or the "nobody would EVER segment their client traffic and server traffic into two different networks"
23:58 <@Dagmar> ...because maybe the fact you've got a daemon on your desktop that alows a remote person to ARP spoof to steal your credentials, in order to connect to your shiny gaming PC and begin launching stuff...  Maybe you don't want to just publish that information
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