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00:12 <@jb7od> Anything good going on tonight?
00:14 <@jb7od> I may have to pop some popcorn and watch the troll show on #freenode
00:16 <@jb7od> Here's a philosophical question- "invite spamming"
00:17 <@jb7od> There's a dude who sits up all night and "spam invites" people out of different chans.
00:18 <@jb7od> people have tried to report him, they flame him, and it's nearly creepy, but I talked to the cat a little and he does all this with a fucking Android...
00:19 <@jb7od> All the people who join his chan are like "why did you invite me?" and I think he's just in it for the lulz of that effect- he's always nice, doesn't seem to be a hothead-
00:20 <@jb7od> it's epic invites, though.
00:20 <@jb7od> he always says the same thing- "can't I invite people?" lol
00:21 <@jb7od> some people take this well and do kitty smileys and shit, some of em straight up flame his ass UP
00:23 <@Dagmar> Eventually they'll just kline his IP block
00:24 <@jb7od> well, the people who report are usually so raged out that it just neutralizes the report. lol
00:25 <@jb7od> I just find the scope of the effort amazing considering he's on a little handheld somewhere lol
00:26 <@jb7od> like building a house with a plastic baby squeak-hammer.
00:27 <@Dagmar> IRC scripting is not hard.
00:28 <@Dagmar> ...but what I'm about to do to this little fuck in Ohio is going to be High Art
00:28 <@Dagmar> I'm working my way through legit options right now
00:29 <@jb7od> it's not, I give you that- but if I was going to be a super invite troll, I'd use a real computer. lol
00:29 <@Dagmar> Well, mostly.
00:29 <@jb7od> okay- yeah, what about that? what's up man?
00:29 <@Dagmar> Oh it's harder for them to ban his entire netblock because IP addresses assigned to cell phones change all the time
00:29 <@Dagmar> He could just as easily be tethering
00:30 <@Dagmar> What's up is this fat little fuck is engaging in slander against my professional reputation
00:30 <@jb7od> the truck driver?
00:30 <@Dagmar> Take a look at the reviews on https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=surrealestates.septiclockwidget
00:30 <@Dagmar> Sort them by Newest
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00:34 < jb7od2> oh awesome
00:35 <@Dagmar> The fun thing was, I already dropped a sock puppet on his head, and I deliberately had the account showing that it circled some of his previous employers
00:35 < jb7od2> anyway, that sucks Dag. wtf
00:35 <@Dagmar> He had posted some whiny little thing to his G+ stream about how he's really not a bad person.
00:35 <@Dagmar> I used the sock puppet to question his veracity.
00:35 < jb7od2> whaa? lol
00:35 <@Dagmar> It gets better.
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00:36 <@Dagmar> He dug around and saw that and then _called_ that company to ask questions about them, and then _said he did so_ in that thread
00:36 <@Dagmar> Doesn't really seem like normal behaviour to me
00:37 <@Dagmar> ...and he's got several friends who were going "oh don't worry we know you're a kind soul who would never bother anyone"
00:37 <@Dagmar> Well, his friends are about to get an eye opening moment
00:37 < jb7od2> where'd he work or whatever?
00:37 <@Dagmar> Temp agencies
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00:38 < jb7od> do guys just troll like that on Android dev stuff?
00:38 <@Dagmar> No, this is over some Ingress stuff
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00:39 <@Dagmar> My guess is that one of the local douchebag smurfs didn't like that I tried to get a portal moved _back_ to it's original location, but didn't feel like his arguments were convincing enough since he was just making things up
00:39 <@Dagmar> So he must have said something to this guy who joined in and engaged in fallacy of repetition and more
00:39 <@Dagmar> I went down there, shot _video_ of the location demonstrating that their claims of it being "dangerous" were laughable
00:40 <@Dagmar> One of the things he said was that he's be in Nashville for the anomaly and see for himself.
00:40 <@Dagmar> Since he was such a dick, I followed up on that thread
00:40 <@Dagmar> I called him out on his lies.
00:40 <@Dagmar> He lied some _more_
00:40 <@Dagmar> I proved he was lying about those, too.
00:41 <@Dagmar> THen he found out I had an app that I've published, so he started claiming there was _malware and trojans_ in it
00:41 <@Dagmar> That crosses a very serious line in my book.
00:41 <@jb7od> w o w
00:41 <@jb7od> no, it totally does- that's super fucked up.
00:41 <@Dagmar> I called him a liar outright, and challenged him to _prove it_ and I offered $500 if he could do so
00:42 <@Dagmar> I pointed out that these claims were slander.
00:42 <@Dagmar> I flagged them as harassment, they got nuked
00:42 <@jb7od> I think the bounty on yourself would be a showstopper, personally.
00:43 <@jb7od> that's a good one-
00:43 <@Dagmar> So, since that didnt' satisfy him, he went back and used those two _sock puppet_ accounts, one of which he only uses for trying to get NIA Ops to review his bogus appeals a _second_ time, to write _slanderous reviews_ and three more 1-star ratings.
00:43 <@Dagmar> I am presently waiting for a response back from Google Play about removing those
00:44 <@jb7od> what a troll.
00:44 <@Dagmar> If I have to, I'll just change the name of the app and _delete_ it from the Play Store, and republish it under a different program name.
00:44 <@Dagmar> They're _not_ going to be allowed to stand.
00:44 <@Dagmar> I've reported him to Niantic for harassment
00:45 <@Dagmar> I'm about to take the matter before the global Ingress G+ community, and we'll see how much heat he gets from his local people about it
00:45 <@Dagmar> I have a feeling this sort of crap will have people hunting his portals all over his area
00:45 <@jb7od> I can understand that though, it's over the top to make that stuff up.
00:45 <@Dagmar> ...and that's if it doesn't push Niantic to just ban him from the game.
00:47 <@Dagmar> There's a whole _lot_ of players who won't be amused to know that if some player decides to take a disagreement over the top like that and start fucking with someone's professional reputation, and Niantic does *nothing* about it...
00:47 <@Dagmar> Well, they'll be vocal.
00:48 <@Dagmar> If I have to replace the application with just the text "MATT7469 RUINED IT FOR EVERYBODY", I will.  And there will be as of this afternoon, about 463 people who will be _pissed_ about that
00:48 <@jb7od> ya, that's way too far for a game beef.
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01:47 < _NSAKEY> "Bloatware Bloatware, author has violent tendencies towards others, very unprofessional, doesn't seem to take criticism well"
01:47 < _NSAKEY> Sorry, going through scrollback.
01:48 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm not particularly amused by this
01:55 <@jb7od> For what it's worth, it looks trollish. I mean, the violence part is stupid.
01:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but just the same, I'm not about to tolerate the accusations that I'm shipping malware
01:56 <@Dagmar> Not one bit
01:56 <@jb7od> that's below the belt.
01:57 <@Dagmar> The moment he took the argument out of G+ and gave the app it's first 1-star rating was below the belt
01:57 <@Dagmar> _This_ is begging for a beating
02:00 <@jb7od> I have faith that they'll take it down by just explaining that it's spillover petty game beef.
02:00 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: +1 on the G+ account that had his former employers in circles.
02:00 < _NSAKEY> That made me laugh.
02:01 < _NSAKEY> At least the guy isn't trying to SWAT you or anything really stupid.
02:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah I figured he would _immmediately_ try and take the argument offline again
02:01 <@Dagmar> ...and not only did he do so, he admitted it right in front of his friends.
02:02 <@jb7od> actually, just that prtscr alone would get it fixed from above, I'm pretty sure.
02:02 <@Dagmar> Would get what fixed?
02:02 <@jb7od> the slag comments.
02:03 <@Dagmar> He's hasn't admitted to deliberately falsifying reviews yet
02:04 <@Dagmar> Supposedly complains filed with Google Play about this kind of thing will be responded to within a business day--so I'm giving them until tomorrow because that'll be two--before I have another go at getting them to remove those
02:04 <@Dagmar> ...at which point I will send in another report _and_ shine a light on his behavior in the Ingress G+ community
02:05 <@Dagmar> ...because I haven't heard back from Niantic either.  I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I wonder if he knows one of Niantics head coders follows me
02:06 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to go for the _minimum_ force necessary to make the dude back off
02:08 <@Dagmar> Ooof it's startd raining
02:08 <@jb7od> which is wise I think-
02:08 <@Dagmar> I have to check on a cat
02:08 <@Dagmar> I *think* the neighbor's cat "Tom" died and they got a new one
02:08 <@Dagmar> 'cuz there's a very young somewhat longhaired calico hanging around in their garden the last few days and I haven't seen Tom at all
02:09 <@Dagmar> The new cat is *really* friendly
02:09 <@jb7od> ^_^
02:09 <@Dagmar> I'm _really_ unsure about having a long-haired almost all WHITE cat in the house
02:10 <@jb7od> Hahaha! That's gonna mess up your gear.
02:11 <@jb7od> Just for laughs, you oughta snap a selfie in head to toe white just for the lul
02:21 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Looked outside.  Cat Not Found.
02:21 <@Dagmar> ...which is good.
02:22 <@Dagmar> I really wish all my neighbors would collar and tag their cats
02:22 <@Dagmar> Everyone looks out for them, and there's always some confusion when a new one shows up without a nametag on, because we don't know if it belongs to someone or it's a stray someone ditched here
02:43 <@Dagmar> I also want to be careful about that sort of thing because there's now a family of foxes living literally just behind the condo
02:43 <@Dagmar> They're super-skittish
02:43 <@Dagmar> I heard them get stirred up a few nights ago and the tiny little howls were _hilarious_
02:46 <@Dagmar> I'm not quite sure who to call about them yet, but I want to be sure there's no "misunderstandings" between the foxes and the cats
02:54 <@jb7od> you have foxes?
02:55 <@jb7od> that's badass
02:55 <@Dagmar> Yep.  I live right next to the river
02:56 <@Dagmar> They're not "mine".  they're wild.  ...but they basically just eat squirrels and so forth
02:56 <@jb7od> oh I didn't figure you'd domesticated one, but there's a grand idea on it's own.
02:56 <@Dagmar> There's I *think* maybe three kits back there
02:57 <@Dagmar> Holy crap the permits you have to have to have one as a pet
02:57 <@Dagmar> Zoning requirements and everything
02:57 <@Dagmar> There's a chick that goes to Bonga Java who has actually done this.  She's got a pair of arctic foxes
02:57 <@Dagmar> They're like silly hyperactive dogs
02:57 <@jb7od> that's crazy. lol
02:58 <@Dagmar> First time she brought her first one to Bongo I had no idea what the fuck it was
02:58 <@jb7od> can you pet em and stuff?
02:58 <@Dagmar> I'm looking at this thing that's basically the size of a larg kitten, but the body is too long and the tail is too short and it's head is way to big to be a ferret
02:58 <@Dagmar> Yep
02:58 <@Dagmar> She brougt the thing to Bongo practically every day to socialize it
02:58 <@jb7od> :D
02:58 <@Dagmar> It loves _everybody_
02:59 <@Dagmar> It wags it's tail, jumps up and down with excitement and is basically a fluffy littel lunatic
02:59 <@jb7od> that's awesome. a fox is cooler than Bongo has gotten to be. I don't go much anymore hardly ever.
03:00 <@jb7od> ^_^ I don't want one, I just wanna pet one.
03:01 <@jb7od> I wouldn't have thought you could tame a fox, heaven forbid there be any level of red-tape on having one as a pet under the assumption that it'd be against the law to.
03:02 <@jb7od> but yeah, if you're worried about the kitty population, you could always toss a couple uncooked fryer chickens in the fox bush.
03:02 <@Dagmar> Well, you can't exactly "tame" them, but they don't really have any major problem with people
03:02 <@jb7od> eh, give it 4000 years... lol
03:02 <@Dagmar> Actually they'll eat cat food
03:03 <@jb7od> nice!
03:03 <@jb7od> well, kinda except that cats will too-
03:03 <@Dagmar> ...and I don't think it would take 4,000 years.  The russians have turned wolves into _dogs_ in less than 15 generations
03:04 <@jb7od> I was going off the total "since domestication", but that's a crazy stat.
03:05 <@Dagmar> What, the short number of generations through selective breeding?
03:05 <@Dagmar> It freaked out the russians who were doing it
03:07 <@jb7od> 15 generations of dogs has still got to fill up a human lifespan, doesn't it?
03:07 <@Dagmar> Not really.  Dogs can breed in two years
03:08 <@jb7od> seems like depending on how you were selective, the real punchline is how long it'd take to breed out the wolf rather than tame it. did they still look wolfish?
03:08 <@Dagmar> Considering this type of fox can only come from a breeder, it's possible that something similar is taking place with the "exotic pet" wolves already
03:09 <@Dagmar> They selected for lowered aggression
03:09 <@Dagmar> they literally went to the pens and judged the wolf pups based on their interest in humans, and inter-bred the least aggressive and most inquisitive
03:10 <@jb7od> oh wow, well that is short if you're not deviating from wolves.
03:11 <@Dagmar> Subsequent generations were smaller, less aggressive, and developed blue eyes
03:12 <@jb7od> I'm still bucket listing petting a fox.
03:12 <@Dagmar> Hrm.. Apparently they tried with foxes much earlier
03:12 <@jb7od> we have a shepard that's part coy. At times I have trust issues with her.
03:14 <@jb7od> Actually, I say this, but I know for a fact she won't do anything during a break-in (tested)
03:15 <@jb7od> there is an eye contact difference. I think that's where my concern stems from.
03:16 <@Dagmar> what the fuck
03:17 <@Dagmar> Sprint's connection optimizer app is launching display windows occasionaly on my phone containing raw HTML that says "Success"
03:18 <@jb7od> D:
03:18 <@jb7od> uh. you win?
03:18 <@jb7od> lol
03:20 <@Dagmar> I just posted a screenshot to my G+ feed.  I'll see if anyone else is having it happen.
03:20 <@Dagmar> MEANWHILE, I'm going to fire up the sniffer
03:25 <@Dagmar> Okay.  That's annoying
03:25 <@Dagmar> For some reason it decided the wifi didn't have internet, so it disconnected from it
03:27 <@Dagmar> Weeeird
03:27 <@Dagmar> If it happens again I will very likely finally go ahead and root this phone and rip out their squirrely addons
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03:51 <@Dagmar> Right-o.  ADB it is, then
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04:02 <@Dagmar> AHA
04:02 <@Dagmar> This reminded me of something that will be very unfortunate for other people later
04:03 <@Dagmar> The mechanism used to check for an active internet presence _is_ failing because the remote end is fucking up
04:03 <@Dagmar> In fact, it's failing in such a way the phone thinks it's talking to a _capture portal_
04:04 <@Dagmar> It's trying to show me the screen that would otherwise display the branding and instructions for gaining access
04:04 <@Dagmar> I've been _meaning_ to look into how to abuse this
04:04 <@Dagmar> THANKS FOR REMINDING ME, SPRING!
04:04 <@Dagmar> er sprint
04:06 < aestetix> so honest question
04:07 < aestetix> why use perl 6 over perl 5?
04:07 < aestetix> I'm reading a doc on it, I see syntax changes, but trying to understand what the big picture reason is
04:09 <@Dagmar> It's basically supposed to be "perfect" now.
04:09 <@Dagmar> Also, when used properly, it will open a gateway to the cold dimensions, giving the Elder Gods access to the programmers mind.
04:10 <@Dagmar> All glory to Yog-Sothoth!
04:12 < aestetix> so no performance reasons?
04:12 < aestetix> just syntax?
04:13 <@Dagmar> There's performance reasons
04:13 <@Dagmar> Perl 6 can slurp up different syntax modules and _execute_ C source code directly.
04:14 <@Dagmar> I'm just sort of hoping it won't wind up being relegated to "perversion" status like Haskell
04:15 <@Dagmar> Over the last... ugh... eight years or so they've had rather a few really bizarre proof-of-concepts released just to see if it could do Really Strange Things
04:23 <@Dagmar> Parsing and execution of uncompiled C source code was one of those things.
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04:53 <@jb7od> sasquatch4: we should have kicked it when I still worked in lavergne.
04:53 <@jb7od> those were unique days.
06:49 < aestetix> jb7od: do you work in shirley now?
06:55 <@jb7od> aestetix: no, that would have been a promotion.
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09:31 <@rattle> Choo choo!!
09:31 <@rattle> I adore the Acela.
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10:50 <@jb7od> Oh, confusing.
10:52 <@jb7od> northrup: I trolled up a londoner on accident last night and tried to find good spots to suggest to eat, but I came up with nothing after gawking at the price of a "flat"
10:52 <@jb7od> apparently not making enough to afford to live where you work is an international phenomenon.
10:54 <@jb7od> I've been operating for some time under the assumption that we're all wage slaves. Those favored among us don't have to worry so much about where their food or lodgings come from, while those who aren't need to "do better'.
10:55 <@jb7od> the problem seems to be what you see with any corporation, easily demonstrated by manufacturing- what do you do after you've cut all the corners you can cut?
10:56 <@jb7od> you're charging the most you can for the shittiest product you can possibly get by with.
10:56 <@jb7od> lay offs.
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12:46 <@Evilpig> well fuck.  looks like I might have to make a warranty claim on my new phone
12:48 <@Evilpig> anyone got any suggestions other than "factory reset" for this?  https://goo.gl/photos/M2ajzb5uNbgmNafE8
12:50 <@Evilpig> http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-from-inside-tumblrs-quirky-office-in-new-york-city-2015-7
12:56 <@opticron> gps just spins forever?
12:56 <@Evilpig> no locks
12:56 <@opticron> :/
12:56 <@Evilpig> like the gps isn't funcitoning
12:57 <@opticron> only thing I can suggest is to toggle the gps off/on to see if that brings it back
12:57 <@opticron> maybe airplane mode off/on
12:57 <@Evilpig> yesterday when my wifi calling just stopped, so I fiddled with it and ending up nearly factory resetting and got it reprogrammed and working again
12:57 <@Evilpig> this morning I noticed it might have been having trouble enabling the wifi calling ebcause it wasn't getting a valid gps lock
12:58 <@Evilpig> I've toggled teh gps, downloaded the helper data, rebooted the phone several times.
13:10 <@opticron> what phone?
13:10 <@opticron> also, that's fucked
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13:34 < aestetix> http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/15/technology/entrepreneur-elissa-shevinsky-lesbian/index.html
13:34 < PigBot`> Title: I'm a lesbian. Now will you fund my startup? - Jul. 15, 2015 (at money.cnn.com)
13:35 <@Evilpig> opticron: note4
13:36 <@opticron> :/
13:38 <@Evilpig> i've read several people online saying that if you do a factory reset it might fix it, but that really is a shitty option
13:39 <@Evilpig> that will make me set up my two factor auth shit on multiple devices all over again and that is a pain in the ass
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14:16 <@opticron> Evilpig, can you do a nandroid backup or TI backup most of your stuff and then try a factory reset?
14:17 <@opticron> I'm actually about to have to do that with my phone because the wifi on it has gone pear-shaped
14:17 <@opticron> and it's directly related to an OS update
14:19 <@Evilpig> everything will auto install from the play store except the two factor auth shit that you can't back up
14:20 <@Dagmar> That's a pretty handy feature.
14:20 <@Dagmar> Oh, I finally wound up rooting and then flashing CM 10.1 on my Xoom last night
14:20 <@Dagmar> I finally got sick of dealing with whatever the fuck was in there and apparently unremoveable that was bogging the damn thing down so much.
14:21 <@Dagmar> It's an old and slightly underpowered device but it was running like utter shit.
14:21 <@Dagmar> Much better now.
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14:21 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I know there's newer CM's available for the wingray, but they require repartitioning the internal storage and I wasn't in the mood to unravel the steps necessary for that last night
14:22 <@Evilpig> I haven't rooted this note yet, after the warranty is up I probably will
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14:33 <@Dagmar> The default-sized system partition can't hold both the OS and Google Apps at the same time on the XOOm
14:34 <@Dagmar> I know resizing it is one of those instances where an unexpected failure can mean lacking JTAG hardware, you are "done", so... some careful study will be done by me before I risk murdering an innocent tablet.
14:34 <@Dagmar> I got "a" response back from the Play Store people today
14:35 <@Evilpig> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xhp+touchpad.TRS0.G|1|0&_nkw=hp+touchpad&_sacat=0
14:35 < PigBot`> Title: hp touchpad | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
14:35 <@Evilpig> btw if someone wants a cheap android tablet
14:35 <@Dagmar> Basically, someone asking me to tell them the things that should have already been reported to them when I put in the initial automatic report.  It even lets you _highlight_ the things on your screen that are the problem in question
14:35 <@Evilpig> touchpads are finally getting cheaper
14:36 <@Dagmar> I was thinking about buying the new XKCD device, actually.
14:37 <@Evilpig> smartass
14:42 <@Dagmar> Well, yes.
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15:09 < aestetix> We should start a change.org petition to bring back Corydon
15:14 <@Dagmar> Wow.  The level of calm reasonability in this video is over 9000 http://www.carthrottle.com/post/29Ns9s/
15:14 < PigBot`> Title: A Hole get beat up. ROAD RAGE (at www.carthrottle.com)
15:15 <@Dagmar> Someone's going to _jail_ after they get done laughing at him at the hospital.
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15:39 <@SuMo_D> So PH is happening?
15:39 <@SuMo_D> PN
15:39 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:39 <@SuMo_D> hmmm
15:40 <@SuMo_D> that could be fun?
15:44 < _NSAKEY> SuMo_D: Pre-reg isn't open yet, but yes.
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16:02 <@SuMo_D> is Amber helping with the planning?
16:02 < _NSAKEY> No. She hasn't been to a meeting in a few months.
16:02 < _NSAKEY> I saw her at the crypto party, and she sounded extremely done.
16:02 <@sasquatc4> giggity, http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20150181275 , wonder how much longer until its completely through
16:02 < PigBot`> Title: VIRTUALIZED CONTENT SOURCING - Patent application (at www.faqs.org)
16:04 <@SuMo_D> done is good
16:16 < aestetix> SuMo_D: Im' doing the keynote
16:17 <@Dagmar> Hell I'm surprised thet got that patent in the first place
16:17 < aestetix> well it's more of a fireside chat. I'll be interviewing Corydon
16:19 <@Dagmar> This fails multiple tests for notability
16:19 <@Dagmar> They're just describing multiplexing tuners
16:20 <@Dagmar> Reducing multiple devices doing the same thing into one particular device is not an invention
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16:22 <@sasquatc4> theres more to it than that
16:23 <@sasquatc4> originally what my patent was was taking multiple transponders off a satellite, parsing them in to their individual streams, remuxing them into 'virtual' transponders at the home.  At that point you could take a sat tuner on an stb, tune to this virtual transponder, which then can have a make up of whatever channels you want them to be
16:23 <@sasquatc4> essentially giving you a 4 to 1 gain on tuners since you can fit about 4 hd channels into one transponder space
16:24 <@sasquatc4> but the lawyers hacked it all to hell so i have no idea what it says anymore
16:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah its hard to read because its describing an otherwise simple thing in a million little pieces
16:25 <@sasquatc4> yea, and they made it as generic as possible as well
16:25 <@Dagmar> Any of these individual pieces is neither notable nor clever
16:26 <@Dagmar> Sticking them all together should not be considered notable nor clever as a result
16:26 <@Dagmar> Oh baby
16:26 <@Dagmar> One of that trolls friends took the bait
16:27 <@Dagmar> Troll boy responded to the question with "well, calling an employer to verify employment isn't bullying. "
16:27 <@Dagmar> That leads us to the logical question of why he was calling to verify the employment of some guy he saw on the internet
16:28 <@Dagmar> ...and as an added bonus he mentions there was a second part to the call but doesn't specify what it was
16:28 <@Dagmar> ...and now his friend is asking "I'm curious, what was the purpose of his call?."
16:29 <@Dagmar> I have hopes that maybe his actual IRL friends can talk his ass down
16:30 <@Dagmar> I mean, if someone says something to you over a social network that you merely "don't like", do _you_ go pick up the phone and call their place of employment?
17:07 <@Dagmar> oh FFS
17:07 <@Dagmar> Opryland Hotel is _already_ setting up Christmas stuff
17:08 <@rhia> well, they're a bit late getting into Christmas in July, month's half over
17:08 <@Dagmar> This is not for Christmas in July
17:08 <@Dagmar> I almost wish it was
17:09 <@rhia> was being facetious
17:09 <@Dagmar> Someone call Chris Hansen
17:09 <@Dagmar> http://www.scrippsmedia.com/newschannel5/nashville-edge/Luke-Bryan-wants-you-to-meet-him-in-Mexico-315019251.html
17:09 < PigBot`> Title: Luke Bryan wants you to meet him in Mexico - NewsChannel5.com (at www.scrippsmedia.com)
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17:18 <@Dagmar> Well, no.  You can delete lilo.conf entirely and the system will never care... until you try running `lilo` again
17:18 <@Dagmar> @#$@
17:18 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$@" is not a valid command.
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18:04 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Who is running lilo in this day and age?
18:30 <@Dagmar> People who aren't in a rush to adopt a piece of software they don't need and is only used very rarely at all
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20:15 < _NSAKEY> Do any modern and currently maintained distros even use lilo?
20:20 <@opticron> catonic is here
20:20 <@opticron> in front of me
21:19 <@Dagmar> LOL
21:20 <@Dagmar> Fun mental exercise for the day, and people who don't play Ingress are excused...
21:20 <@Dagmar> Why does the Ingress APK request the android.permission.RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED permission?
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22:41 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Slackware uses LILO.
22:42 <@Dagmar> We're building servers, not a magpie's nest.
22:49 < _NSAKEY> Still?
22:50 < _NSAKEY> Everything I found via google pointed to lilo being dead and unused, but I found references to it being used in slackware as of several years ago.
22:51 < _NSAKEY> If that's the case, it might never adopt systemd.
23:15 < oddball_> Can Slackware be considered "modern?" :p
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23:26 < _NSAKEY> A fair question.
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