--- Log opened Tue Jul 14 00:00:52 2015
00:22 <@Dagmar> Okay.  The most fun part starts now... PARTITION ALLOCASHUNS
00:22 <@Dagmar> fuuuu-uuuu-
00:24 <@Dagmar> The existing machine came with a 5200RPM drive and was so space-constrained I was pretty sure putting a full-sized 7200RPM drive in would result in "excess melting" so it has a 2.5" laptop drive held in place with electrical tape.  40Gb.
00:24 <@Dagmar> Unless someone desperately wants it, it's going to the recyclers this week
01:15 <@jb7od> Anybody in here hack on transmissions?
01:15 <@jb7od> like automatic transmissions? lol
01:19 <@jb7od> or EVOD's that pee in your pocket?
01:53 < aestetix> god
01:53 < aestetix> why is the US incompetent
01:54 < aestetix> everything in the US that involves money is stupid.
01:56 <@jb7od> money begat wage slavery.
01:56 < aestetix> I am waiting on a paycheck from a US company, and.... they are taking their sweet fucking time.
01:57 < aestetix> Including randomly forgetting how to do things.
01:58 <@jb7od> here's a corporate identity question: can a corporation, the non-person, have a credit rating?
01:59 < aestetix> well a country can
01:59 < aestetix> so I imagine a corporation can
01:59 < aestetix> although there's no such thing as a shell person
02:00 <@jb7od> so if you invoice and they don't pay you can report a corporation to a collections agency? lol
02:00 < aestetix> lol
02:00 < aestetix> well actually there is the better business bureau or whatever its called
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02:00 <@jb7od> I think that agency is molestable.
02:01 <@jb7od> I think with enough money, your rating can be artifically repaired.
02:03 <@jb7od> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_Life_and_Accident_Insurance_Company
02:03 < PigBot`> Title: Globe Life and Accident Insurance Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:03 <@jb7od> since 1951 blah blah
02:03 <@jb7od> claims 3.9m
02:03 <@jb7od> policy holders.
02:03 <@jb7od> The company has an A+ Better Business Bureau rating on a scale of A+ to F and has over 345 closed complaints.
02:04 < aestetix> wait
02:04 < aestetix> 3.9 million claims and they have only had 345 complaints?
02:04 <@jb7od> since 1951 the way that page reads.
02:04 <@jb7od> (AHEM)
02:05 <@jb7od> I guess "over 345" could mean 3.899999mil lol
02:06 <@jb7od> I was researching them and I read that and was like pbbbt riiiiight....
02:06 <@jb7od> the "word on the street" is that they resist payouts.
02:07 <@jb7od> Maybe you can't complain if you're not the customer and with life insurance, the customer is sort of dead...
02:08 <@jb7od> Maybe it's like "we only got caught 345 times"
02:11 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: I'm interested, if you're just going to chuck it otherwise.
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02:13 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: IBM NetVista Type 6274
02:13 <@jb7od> HAHA is that the one with the ridges on the case?
02:14 <@Dagmar> PC133 RAM 8ns, two slots, max 512Mb, non-ECC.  2 slots.  Currently sporting a whopping 256Mb of RAM
02:14 <@Dagmar> Heh yes
02:14 <@jb7od> Hell yeah man!
02:14 <@Dagmar> Currently IMHO the only thing it might be really useful for would be running acidwarp.exe if you could get DOS running on something like that and coerce a VGA driver to work
02:14 <@Dagmar> Ther'es a reason I run very little on it
02:15 <@Dagmar> It's "compact" is about the best that can be said for it
02:15 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Do you know what kind of power draw it has?
02:15 <@Dagmar> The rage chipset on it is so stupid that it loses all of it's EDID settings when it's initialized
02:15 <@jb7od> I'm betting >200
02:15 <@jb7od> 150?
02:16 <@Dagmar> You literally have to construct those tables by hand and punch them into it if you have a hope of using more than basic VGA modes with it
02:16 <@Dagmar> It has an external power brick, so probably less than that
02:16 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: My plan doesn't involve graphics, so that part doesn't matter to me.
02:16 <@jb7od> fw?
02:16 <@Dagmar> It's internal NIC is 10base-T
02:16 <@_NSAKEY> Still interested.
02:17 <@jb7od> does it have an isa slot?
02:17 <@Dagmar> Honestly I don't think so
02:17 <@Dagmar> It has two low-profile PCI slots.
02:17 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, I'd be surprised if it had ISA.
02:17 <@jb7od> I dunno... 10base?
02:17 <@_NSAKEY> That's around the time ISA started getting phased out.
02:17 <@Dagmar> I'll leave one of the low-profile NICs in it
02:18 <@Dagmar> So there'll be the 10base-T and one 100base-T NIC
02:18 <@Dagmar> ...at least I'm pretty sure the integrated NIC is 10base-T
02:18 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Is this it? http://www.cnet.com/products/ibm-netvista-x41-6274-p4-1-5-ghz-128-mb-20-gb-lcd-15/
02:18 < PigBot`> Title: IBM NetVista X41 6274 - P4 1.5 GHz - 128 MB - 20 GB - LCD 15" Overview - CNET (at www.cnet.com)
02:18 <@Dagmar> You can probably still look up the specs online.  That's the only reason I was able to find out what the fuck goes into the slots
02:18 <@_NSAKEY> Of course, with more RAM and a bigger hard drive.
02:18 <@jb7od> I used to see those things at the recycler with network cards with a bnc on em, iirc.
02:19 <@Dagmar> I paid $75 for it maybe 8 years ago
02:19 <@_NSAKEY> That's looks just funky enough to be fun.
02:19 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: This is IBM so if it says a model number, that's the only model that will ever use that number
02:19 <@Dagmar> ...and that's it
02:20 <@jb7od> Who in here's a log troll? I asked in #freenode what my nick's birthday was on here and what I got back, I'm pretty positive, was the last time I changed my email...
02:20 <@_NSAKEY> I'm guessing it works, but is just old and taking up space?
02:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  I'm IRCing from it right now
02:21 <@Dagmar> Hmm... That page says fast ethernet so maybe the integrated one is actually 100base-YT
02:21 <@Dagmar> er T
02:21 <@_NSAKEY> That's pretty much what I'll do with it, except s/IRC/XMPP/.
02:21 <@jb7od> I was gonna say a while back that those things are indestructable. you could put that thing in the dumpster in the rain for a week and it'll boot.
02:21 <@Dagmar> Well, it's so cramped for space it's not even funny
02:22 <@Dagmar> If your 3.5" disk is of a type that makes heat, there's not really anywhere for that heat to go
02:22 <@jb7od> don't those have this weird bar across the top after you pull the top off the case?
02:22 <@Dagmar> I *think* so
02:23 <@jb7od> the old presarios are also invincible.
02:23 <@Dagmar> Even being a plastic case, it's clear IBM built it to their usual "should stop a bullet" spec
02:23 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Are you leaving the laptop drive in, or do I need to scrounge one?
02:24 <@Dagmar> Dude
02:24 <@Dagmar> http://www.cnet.com/products/fujitsu-mobile-mhj2181at-hard-drive-18-1-gb-ata-66-series/
02:24 < PigBot`> Title: Fujitsu Mobile MHJ2181AT - hard drive - 18.1 GB - ATA-66 Overview - CNET (at www.cnet.com)
02:24 <@Dagmar> That's the model hard drive I scrounged for it
02:24 <@jb7od> if it's got that bar, that shit will cut you- do not grab it.
02:24 <@Dagmar> If it would boot off USB you'd be wildly better off spending $20 on a 32Gb SDcard and USb reader.  Heh
02:25 <@jb7od> *not* a handle.
02:25 <@Dagmar> I am *not* taking the drive out of it
02:25 <@Dagmar> I'll wipe it and that's about it
02:25 <@_NSAKEY> Fair enough.
02:26 <@Dagmar> I had a 7200 RPM disk in it for a little while and it would get hot enough to burn my fingers
02:26 <@_NSAKEY> That's still enough space for a local Bitlbee appliance.
02:26 <@_NSAKEY> Hmm. Maybe it would be worth going full retard and getting a small/cheap ssd?
02:26 <@_NSAKEY> Or is this IDE?
02:27 <@Dagmar> You could go berzerk and dremel out the contents and install a Raspberry Pi model 2 in there and it would be an upgrade
02:27 <@Dagmar> It's absolutely IDE
02:27 <@_NSAKEY> Hahahaha.
02:27 <@Dagmar> ATA-66
02:27 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, I'm looking at the docs.
02:27 <@jb7od> 40 pin?
02:27 <@_NSAKEY> So much for that bright idea.
02:27 <@_NSAKEY> But hey, if you're leaving the drive in, it's kind of completely academic.
02:27 <@Dagmar> jb7od: Yep.  Not even the fancy 80-pin models
02:28 <@jb7od> scuse me, 40 channel, both that and the 80's had 40 physical pins
02:29 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Are you ok with hanging on to it until the next meeting?
02:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah
02:29 <@Dagmar> Being made primarily of "collapsed/depleted plastic-ium" don't ask me to carry it in
02:29 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, that would be cruel. We can just meet in the parking lot and I can put it in the trunk.
02:29 <@Dagmar> I'll bring my car around to wherever yours is
02:30 <@Dagmar> I think it would be funny to leave it in the car with the windows open, personally.
02:30 <@_NSAKEY> Hahaha.
02:32 <@Dagmar> If you could get a video of someone stealing it we could put the video and the specs on YouTube and get pageviews of people watching it to laugh at the thief
02:33 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: We could put Apple stickers all over it, so any thieves might think they're stealing an iMac.
02:33 <@Dagmar> No they wouldn't.
02:33 <@Dagmar> Trust me on that one
02:33 <@Dagmar> This isn't shiny
02:33 <@jb7od> it'd probably be safe on the sidewalk overnight lol
02:33 <@Dagmar> That page said "stealth black"
02:34 <@Dagmar> It is made of something that eventually people developed into ABS plastic I think
02:35 <@_NSAKEY> I wonder if it will run FreeBSD.
02:35 <@Dagmar> Probably.
02:36 <@Dagmar> http://ps-2.kev009.com/pccbbs/netvista_pdf/23p1170.pdf
02:36 <@_NSAKEY> That could be a funny experience.
02:36 <@_NSAKEY> • 256 MB, 512 MB, or 1 GB non-parity, non-ECC DIMMs (optional)
02:37 <@Dagmar> I think it tops out at a pair of 256Mb DIMMs
02:37 <@_NSAKEY> that page in the pdf says it maxes out at 2GB.
02:37 <@Dagmar> I'll take their word for it
02:37 <@_NSAKEY> Honestly though, whatever's in it should be fine. I don't ever intend to install X.
02:38 <@Dagmar> I *might* actualy have some of those around here
02:38 <@Dagmar> You might have less of a hassle with a *BSD actually
02:38 <@Dagmar> I've just gotten used to the screen not working
02:38 <@Dagmar> ...since Linux now automatically enables the fbconsole stuff
02:38 <@Dagmar> ...which makes the Rage chipset go "wut" and then stare off into space
02:40 <@_NSAKEY> Every random piece of old hardware I've bothered to try FreeBSD on has kernel panicked during the first part of the installer.
02:40 <@_NSAKEY> So if it does work, that could be fun.
02:41 <@Dagmar> It's technically a Pentium
02:41 <@Dagmar> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz
02:41 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, one of the early P4s.
02:45 <@Dagmar> Honestly, I think the chances of it giving me cancer or perhaps some form of toxic shock syndrome are higher than the chances I'd find it useful again
02:45 <@Dagmar> I have older computers here to be sure, but the *only* reason I've been keeping them around is because either a) there's old sploits on them I want to archive or b) evidence I need to destroy
02:45 <@Dagmar> In some cases, both.
02:46 <@jb7od> I turned my old compaq and gx1 into dsp processors for guitar effects.
02:47 <@jb7od> which was fun, but you'd struggle to call it "good" lol
03:25 <@jb7od> GOD I miss my girl. :*/ I wouldn't be up playing on the internet at /time.
03:26 <@jb7od> she's in florida with her fam, and that's good, but ugggghhhh suuuckkksss...
03:37 <@Dagmar> So... ANyone knwo what's up with RangerZ?
03:38 <@Dagmar> I have a Compaq Model 4 here with a miniPCI wireless card in it.  Do I have to take it to his house to get him back online?  :)
03:53 <@Dagmar> Oh oh.  Bad news for ProxyHam
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09:44 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8z5zcxnoa3dzdq2/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-14%20at%209.41.24%20AM.png?dl=0
09:44 <@Evilpig> clever marketing?  or failure of our educational system?
10:29 <@Dagmar> Probably the only meaningful thing you'll see on Instagram this year https://instagram.com/p/5HT9Ggksmb/
10:29 < PigBot`> Title: New Horizons on Instagram: “#Repost @nasa with @repostapp. ・・・ SNEAK PEAK of gorgeous Pluto! The dwarf planet has sent a love note back to Earth via our New Horizons spacecraft, which has traveled more than 9 years and 3+ billion miles. This is the last and most detailed image of Pluto sent to Earth before the moment of closest approach - 7:49 a.m. EDT today. This image will be released and discussed at 8 a.m. EDT today. Watch our briefing live o
10:50 <@opticron> that's a failure of the education system, they mention nothing about mountains
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11:17 <@Evilpig> I think this was posted in here already, but if not.  this is cool as shit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_J8k43gUhY
11:17 <@Evilpig> make sure you check it out with chrome
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11:27 <@Dagmar> Good.
11:28 <@Dagmar> Anything to get me away from the idiots reblogging this dumbassed "I, Racist" article.
11:28 <@Dagmar> Why with Chrome, tho?
11:28 <@Evilpig> you'll see
11:28 <@Evilpig> I don't want to ruin it
11:29 <@Dagmar> You could level to 40 in that place just running errands
11:29 <@Evilpig> I'd love to see more videos like that.
11:29 <@Dagmar> So... the video ends and then it goes to a Jurassic Park video
11:29 <@Evilpig> did you view it in chrome?
11:29 <@Evilpig> cause in chrome, you can look around
11:30 <@Dagmar> Oh, dude.
11:30 <@Evilpig> it's a 360 video.
11:30 <@Dagmar> There's more than a few of those
11:30 <@Dagmar> You need to assemble a Cardboard unit
11:30 <@Evilpig> first one i've seen
11:30 <@Dagmar> Squarepusher has an entire music video that operates like this
11:31 <@Dagmar> I showed it to Lindsey _using_ the damn display and had to forbibly turn her head so she'd understand
11:31 <@Dagmar> I tell her "Okay, now look around".  She still stares straight forward.
11:33 <@Dagmar> Well...
11:33 <@Dagmar> It also autoplayed it's way to a trailer for Dead Rising Watchtower.
11:33 <@Dagmar> I know whem I'm doing for the next couple of hours.
12:20 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: Barri Brooks says hi.
12:21 <@Dagmar> Meh
12:21 <@Dagmar> I still think of her as Vanderbilt's Chief Apologist
12:21 <@Dagmar> She should have been slapping people around over the pay scale issue.
12:22 <@Dagmar> That having been said, I suppose she's doing the best she can considering how fucked that place is
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15:41 <@Mirage> damn netsplit
15:52 <@Evilpig> lol?  http://gizmodo.com/heres-todays-horrific-subreddit-that-will-make-your-sou-1717608790
15:52 < PigBot`> Title: Heres Todays Horrific Subreddit That Will Make Your Soul Shrivel (at gizmodo.com)
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15:59 <@Dagmar> Damn.  Shit is blowing sideways here
16:00 <@Evilpig> tell your neighbors to shit indoors?
16:01 <@Dagmar> I ain't goin out in this to tell them
16:03 <@Evilpig> can't say I blame you on that
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16:04 <@Dagmar> South of Nashville is bring power washed
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16:37 <@Evilpig> coworker was complaining earlier that they couldn't find the network adapaters last week so she went out and bought more.  I replied with "did you check the bin?"  to which I was told "of course and they couldn't find anything they all just mysteriously vanished"
16:37 <@Evilpig> I present to you "the bin"  https://goo.gl/photos/KzCicBkaDZ9RuNUE8
16:38 <@Evilpig> three thunderbolt and at least half a dozen usb variety, in the bin marked very clearly "usb nic"
16:39 <@Evilpig> this coworker went on the defensive, near tyrade, about wasting my time taking pictures when there were cables ont he floor to be picked up. rather than just saying, yeah... I was lazy and somehow didn't see them
16:39 <@Evilpig> but where are those network cables I requested two weeks ago?  still not ordered.  20 minutes and i'm on vacation!
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18:28 <@Evilpig> Dolemite, Mirage, et al.  new justice league movie out
18:28 <@Evilpig> Justice League - Gods and Monsters (2015)
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21:07 <@Evilpig> I need to get my suitcase packed and get to sleep
21:18 < aestetix> where are you going?
21:22 <@Evilpig> cali
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