--- Log opened Tue Jul 07 00:00:42 2015 00:18 <@Dagmar> <-- not even a little surprised 00:18 <@Dagmar> "It appears that the items or services sold are defensive in nature." 00:18 <@Dagmar> We shall see as more people pore through the trove. 00:19 <@Dagmar> Unrelated: Apparently Lightscribe discs are only "good" for a certain length of time if you don't put something on the label 00:19 <@Dagmar> THere's no other explanation for what I'm seeing out of the label burns I've done in the past 48 hours 00:20 <@Dagmar> _Crescents_ of undarkened surface, not rings like I first thought. 00:21 <@Dagmar> I've got a different batch of them I'll try later tonight to see if it's just this one, although none of the others from this batch have shown any notable defects. 01:45 < aestetix> God I hate neoliberals. 01:45 < aestetix> They are as bad as neocons. 02:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah this batch of colored Lightscribe DVDs has been sitting on my shelf unused for too long. The test burn with a different batch works fine. 02:40 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Memorex's old black CD-Rs used to be great. 02:40 <@Dagmar> It's not the media side that's the problem. It's the label side. 02:40 < _NSAKEY> I found a pack that had been unopened for about 10 years, and am still slowly chipping away at it 2 years later. 02:40 < _NSAKEY> That isn't surprising. 02:47 <@Dagmar> THey're Lightscribe disks... The kind that the burner can actually laser burn text and pictures to the top side of 02:48 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, not surprised. 02:48 <@Dagmar> It's weird that most of the label comes out nice and dark 02:48 < _NSAKEY> The printed side always stood out to me as a possible point of failure. 02:48 <@Dagmar> ...and then straight to _nothing_ showing in places 02:48 < _NSAKEY> I'd rather just use a sharpie and decipher my serial killer handwriting. 02:49 <@Dagmar> Until I saw it was in crescent patterns, I thought maybe the label mode of the laser was failing 02:49 <@Dagmar> Considering the way they're positioned, I might try doing one twice over later on 05:41 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@pool-96-233-107-211.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 05:41 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@pool-96-233-107-211.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 05:41 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 05:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 07:18 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:44 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:56 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:58 * Dolemite gives aestetix a zerbert 08:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 08:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Changing host] 08:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:17 <@Dagmar> It would be wrong to flood the upstairs apartment with chloroform, woudln't it 08:18 <@Evilpig> maybe. let's hear your why, first. 08:19 < aestetix> Dagmar: the beast lives in your upstairs apartment now? 08:21 <@Dagmar> I don't know. Whoever it is has decided that 7:00am is a perfectly fine time to be dragging large pieces of furniture around 08:21 <@Dagmar> Also, judging by their footfalls in comparison to mine, I am a goddamn ninja 08:21 <@Evilpig> maybe they're moving out 08:21 <@Evilpig> or moving in 08:22 <@Dagmar> They also have some feral children who like to stampede through the apartment during the day 08:23 < aestetix> Dagmar: duct-tape a few speakers to your ceiling and play goat porn 08:23 <@Dagmar> We have trees outside. I don't see what's so hard bout tying two together with some paracord. Add a carabiner and a leash and youv'e got a run where they'll be happy 08:23 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I have done worse, and if they make a habit of doing this, I may do worse again 08:24 <@Dagmar> You don't need duct tape 08:24 < aestetix> Dagmar: or tell them there is a children's petting zoo at crazybitch's house 08:28 < aestetix> (be careful of the animals, they bite) 08:47 <@Dagmar> http://news.thestigmaproject.org/post/78701812064/study-reports-men-women-with-undetectable-viral 08:47 < PigBot`> Title: Study Reports Men & Women With Undetectable Viral... | The Stigma Project | News (at news.thestigmaproject.org) 08:47 <@Dagmar> o.O 08:47 <@Dagmar> So... 08:47 <@Dagmar> Now you know the odds of getting HIV from taking it in the ass from someone with HIV 08:47 <@Dagmar> I'm at a loss to explain why this needed to be an infographic 09:17 <@Dolemite> Heh, this Bartkira mashup is actually pretty well done 09:18 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=106&v=0SWt6OQ4Nl4 09:27 <@Evilpig> wow. the flooding in ky is bad... 09:27 <@Evilpig> I've never seen water reach exit 4 off i-24 before 09:35 <@Mirage> PN flashback: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/afdbdiagram.pdf 09:36 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 09:55 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:11 < aestetix> after learning to deal with german bluntness 10:12 < aestetix> I don't think I can ever go back to san francisco 10:13 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 10:19 <@oddball> aestetix: You now understand what I mean by SanFran being its own little world? 10:19 < aestetix> yes 10:20 < aestetix> everyone else is like "what is this bullshit? get over it" 10:39 <@Evilpig> my receipt pile is getting too big for the clip 10:39 <@Dolemite> Time to fill out an expense report, then 10:39 <@Evilpig> these are the ones i've already submitted 10:40 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/3g1cbvSsX4o9dAw39 10:40 <@Evilpig> just paranoid they're gonna come back to me and want it 10:44 <@Evilpig> http://www.adultswim.com/etcetera/pretty-gross/ 10:44 < PigBot`> Title: Adult Swim - Pretty Gross (at www.adultswim.com) 10:44 -!- jb7od [~jb7od@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 10:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 10:51 <@Evilpig> damn fedex is running late this morning 10:52 <@Dolemite> They are playing whiffle ball with your power strip as a bat 10:52 <@Dolemite> It takes time to repackage it 10:52 <@Evilpig> very likely 10:52 <@Evilpig> I should head downstairs 10:59 < aestetix> apparently seattle just banned all outdoor smoking 11:09 <@oddball> So... Dennis Leary was right about soon only being able to smoke in your apartment under your blanket with the lights out. 11:10 < cyberanger> How is that....Most places seem to ban it anywhere but outside. 11:13 <@Mirage> Colorado had a ban a few years back of all outdoor smoking due to fire risk during drought. 11:13 < cyberanger> Now I can somewhat see that, but I'd expect it to be like any other burn ban, lifted when the need is gone 11:14 < cyberanger> (and I'm not even a smoker, it just makes no sense to me banning things that don't affect me, and if it does, it's cause it's my choice) 11:15 < cyberanger> 11:35 <@oddball> cyberanger: I think the answer you seek is "because Seatle." 11:36 <@Evilpig> http://imgur.com/agB8T2H 11:36 < PigBot`> Title: Son of a bitch - Imgur (at imgur.com) 11:37 <@Mirage> Evilpig: sad 11:37 < cyberanger> oddball: Yeah (And I thought New York was bad, but at least when I was in Buffalo, the Bars with outside patios still allowed it, if you were willing to smoke in the cold) 11:37 < cyberanger> Evilpig: lol 11:40 <@Evilpig> Mirage: a coworker just sent that to me and I laughed out loud so I knew I had to share 11:42 <@Mirage> My first thought was that you were setting your standards way too low and she'd better be hot 11:51 <@Evilpig> someone is asking about a zipline that is wheelchair friendly... is this even a thing? 11:52 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:57 <@oddball> They have a second wheelchair waiting for you at the bottom? 11:58 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 11:58 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05 <@dasunt> cyberanger: Don't bars in Buffalo have heaters on their outdoor patios? 12:22 <@rhia> Seattle banned smoking in public parks, you can still smoke in your own backyard, but, yeah - "because Seattle" 12:25 <@rhia> (and the 25' from entrance/exit windows and air intakes pretty much bans it from almost all public spaces) 12:26 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Since all the ziplines pretty much require you to ride in a harness and the handlebars are really just there to give you something to hold onto... I'd say that making a wheelchair friendly zipline isn't that tough to do. Boy Scout Camp has a procedure for doing it for the COPE towers. 12:35 <@Evilpig> someone just called me to verify my name address, etc for se2600.com 12:40 <@oddball> "someone?" 12:41 <@Evilpig> yeah random old lady reading off a screen 12:43 <@oddball> Speaking of which, I expect to get the invoice for the printers that Dru used last year sometime this week. 12:51 < cyberanger> dasunt: Guessing the higher class ones 12:51 < cyberanger> or higher priced 12:51 < cyberanger> I always found the cheaper dives 12:58 <@Dolemite> oddball: An invoice the following July for product delivered in October? Tell me how their business model is a success. lol 12:59 <@oddball> Oh, they sent an invoice way back when. 13:00 <@oddball> I believe they've followed up on it, as well. 13:01 <@oddball> But... well... following up with Dru meant shouting into a black hole. 13:03 <@oddball> I know the owners/management, and they mentioned it recently. I told them to send me the invoice and I'd talk to Elonka about it. 13:03 <@oddball> Surprise, surprise, Elonka has told me that she was told that everything was paid up. 13:06 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:06 <@oddball> I'm guessing that the bill is low enough that they've written it off as "it would be nice to get paid, but more than it's worth to sue for it." 13:10 <@Evilpig> oddball: that blackhole is why I got contacted for the shirt order 13:14 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I was under the impression that after the t-shirt invoice, everything of that nature was supposed to be caught up. 13:15 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: you have to remember that dru's stance was "if nobody knows about it, it doesn't exist" 13:27 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: OMG. I can totally see you buying a phone for your nephews and doing this -> http://m.newnownext.com/parents-buy-phone-for-sons-birthday-set-up-his-gay-dating-apps-with-username-ragingbottom96/07/2015/ 13:27 < PigBot`> Title: Parents Buy Phone For Son’s Birthday, Set Up His Gay Dating Apps With Username “RagingBottom96″ | NewNowNext (at m.newnownext.com) 13:37 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:39 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Oh, I fully believe Elonka's response of "oh, I thought everything was paid. Please have them send me an invoice." 13:43 < _NSAKEY> That doesn't surprise me, oddball. 13:44 < _NSAKEY> Every time I've seen something come up in front of Elonka, her response has been to handle things as swiftly as possible. 13:44 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:44 <@Mirage> _NSAKEY: which is why you don't want to get on her bad side 13:45 < _NSAKEY> Mirage: I don't think there's any danger of that. 13:46 <@dasunt> cyberanger: Maybe Buffalo isn't cold enough. Heaters on bar patios is pretty common up here. 14:14 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 14:14 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:14 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 14:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 14:26 <@Mirage> www.facebook.com/BCAflashyourboobschallenge 14:33 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:34 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Changing host] 14:34 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 15:16 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@24.178.62.116] has joined #se2600 15:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:18 <@SuMo_D> ello room 15:18 * Evilpig licks SuMo_D's face 15:18 * SuMo_D dodge 15:18 * SuMo_D tackle hugs Evilpig 15:18 * Evilpig licks again 15:19 <@SuMo_D> this is why you can't have nice friends 15:19 <@Evilpig> i know 15:19 <@Evilpig> I creep the rest of them out too 15:20 <@SuMo_D> how goes it norselander? 15:21 <@Evilpig> meh. I wanna move to a steaming hot island full of degenerates 15:21 <@Evilpig> also.... LOL "Federal authorities raided the home of Subway spokesman Jared Fogle Tuesday morning. FBI sources told CBS4 federal and state investigators were serving warrants at Fogle’s Zionsville home in connection with a child pornography investigation." 15:22 <@SuMo_D> ouch 15:22 <@SuMo_D> maybe they'll make some kind of defense including that too much processed lunch meat retards your maturation 15:26 <@SuMo_D> So how goes the PN planning 15:26 <@Evilpig> no clue 15:26 <@SuMo_D> you guys got something together, trying to replan my life at the moment not sure if I should include a Nashville excursion in the mix 15:26 <@Evilpig> apparently they got another surprise bill. lol 15:27 <@SuMo_D> what?? 15:27 <@SuMo_D> lol 15:27 <@Evilpig> I'm headed to cali in two weeks, then the night I get back there a work booze cruise, then I've got tickets for weird al and primus for the following week 15:28 <@SuMo_D> nice 15:28 <@SuMo_D> your life sounds awesome right now 15:28 <@Evilpig> it has its moments 15:29 <@SuMo_D> I'm reformatting my resume and thinking of going back to grad school 15:30 <@Evilpig> I'm just so done with school 15:31 <@Dolemite> Time to skedaddle. Laters, kids! 15:34 <@SuMo_D> bye Dolemite 15:34 <@Evilpig> http://redalertpolitics.com/2015/07/07/mother-man-died-setting-firework-off-head-thinks-government-prevented/#eu2STmZW75xMgaqq.99 15:34 <@Evilpig> the only "dud" here was her idiot son 15:34 <@SuMo_D> Evilpig its hurting my job prospects, I've got the experience but I don't have that one qualification... so I need some kind of masters to check that box so I can get better jobs 15:35 <@SuMo_D> doing things that actually pay money... and don't suck 15:35 <@Evilpig> there is that. academia is weird on some of that shit 15:35 <@SuMo_D> I taught almost 3 years at what is now named the Best design school in the country... but I can't get a job at ITT tech here 15:35 <@SuMo_D> cause... paper 15:36 <@Evilpig> “They’re going to say, ‘Well, you can’t regulate stupidity’ … and it’s true, you can’t. But the fact of the matter is you have to try something, I’m not giving up,” 15:36 <@Evilpig> Read more at http://redalertpolitics.com/2015/07/07/mother-man-died-setting-firework-off-head-thinks-government-prevented/#xIJ4P5jvFLrQJVz5.99 15:36 <@Evilpig> bah! stupid js injector shit 15:37 <@SuMo_D> ouch 15:37 <@Evilpig> fuckin' politicians realize they can't fix the problem but openly saying "we're gonna throw money at it anyway" 15:37 <@SuMo_D> people.... 15:37 <@SuMo_D> anyway I should get back.... things 15:37 <@Evilpig> later 15:37 <@SuMo_D> just wanted to drop in and say haaaay 15:37 <@SuMo_D> like the horses... 15:37 <@SuMo_D> \m/ 15:37 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@24.178.62.116] has quit [Quit: Off into this... Real world place...] 15:44 < _NSAKEY> Can someone would ops /topic the PN dates? 15:45 < _NSAKEY> s/would/with/ 15:50 <@Evilpig> first weekend in nov? 15:51 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Yeah. 15:51 < _NSAKEY> It was the only weekend open at that hotel and the other Clarion. 15:52 < _NSAKEY> October 23-25 was open at the Preston, but Elonka's going to be at the NSA headquarters that weekend, so that was out. 15:52 <@Evilpig> the preston is a hit high brow... 15:52 <@Evilpig> hit/bit* 15:52 < _NSAKEY> It had the lowest up-front rate and the 2nd lowest room rate. 15:53 <@Evilpig> that's kinda surprising. but the area they are in is shit 15:53 < _NSAKEY> And the ability to expand to take more of the space on an as-needed basis if we needed it. 16:01 <@Dagmar> the Preston also has _a bar_ 16:05 < aestetix> this should be fun. I just submitted a talk to blackhat europe. 16:05 < aestetix> they require a job title and a company 16:05 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: the clarion does not too, iirc 16:05 < aestetix> I just put N/A for now 16:05 <@Evilpig> now* 16:05 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know 16:05 <@Dagmar> For the miniscule price difference between the two, it could go to either location as far as I'm concerned 16:07 <@northrup> Dagmar: was it you that was running the Plex beast? 16:07 <@Evilpig> <-- 16:07 <@Dagmar> Nope 16:07 <@northrup> There we go... 16:07 <@Dagmar> I don't run Plex at all 16:07 <@Dagmar> I'm a MythTV user 16:08 <@Dagmar> I should probably rummage throught my motherboard collection and figure out which one is still serviceable and put together a dedicated Plex box, just to see how useful they are 16:08 <@northrup> Yeah - I gave up on the MythTV front... very little live TV watching 16:08 <@Dagmar> Zero live TV watching here 16:08 <@northrup> I am looking at diving headlong into Plex 16:09 <@Evilpig> dagmar will come over to plex eventually. iirc they don't have a great linux front end though. 16:09 <@northrup> They've got a full Ubuntu front end that looks like the windows / mac UI/UX... 16:09 <@Dagmar> Dude, I don't use a frontend 16:10 <@Dagmar> At the moment I'd still have the post-upgrade screen on the display of my MythTV box except for the fact that I murdered XFree immediately after to free up resources 16:10 <@northrup> but I also see they've got a Raspberry Pi Plex build too for a front-end 16:10 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you really otta check plex out. 16:10 <@Dagmar> If you go that route, get the Pi2. It's a quad core with more RAM 16:10 <@northrup> So what do you actually use the MythTV for? 16:10 <@Dagmar> Still cheak as f**l 16:11 <@Dagmar> *sigh* I meant cheap as f**k 16:11 <@Dagmar> northrup: Recording what little TV I actually watch 16:11 <@Dagmar> At the moment, that's Johnathan Strange & Mister Norrell, and Mr. Robot 16:12 <@Dagmar> I get giant 1080 h.264 recordings off it, then pass them through Handbrake to clean that up, then Avidemux to cut the commercials out 16:12 <@Dagmar> I use MythTV only in the loosest sense nowadays 16:12 <@Dagmar> ...mainly because some of the MythTV devs were kinda _dicks_ to me. 16:13 <@Dagmar> THey still haven't incorporated the patch i wrote for them that actually _properly_ handled every possible byterange request for the MythWeb streaming functionality. 16:13 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell is done 16:13 <@Dagmar> My shit handled that 100% correctly, all the time, which is more than I can say for Apache itself, actually. 16:13 <@Dagmar> Evilpig; no there's more episodes 16:13 <@Evilpig> correct 16:14 <@Dagmar> I actually scheduled both the upcoming recordings for that just last night 16:14 <@Evilpig> the guide said the one 9 days ago was the last 16:14 <@Dagmar> Refresh your guide 16:14 <@Evilpig> http://thetvdb.com/?tab=season&seriesid=268581&seasonid=517049&lid=7 16:14 < PigBot`> Title: Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell: Season 1 Episode List (at thetvdb.com) 16:15 <@Evilpig> series status on the other says "ended" 16:15 <@Evilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2548418/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1 16:15 < PigBot`> Title: Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (TV Series 2015– ) - Episodes - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 16:15 <@Evilpig> imdb matches. 7 episodes and done 16:16 <@Dagmar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange_%26_Mr_Norrell_(miniseries) 16:16 <@Dagmar> Ep5 airs on BBCA this weekend 16:16 <@Dagmar> There are seven in total 16:17 <@Dagmar> I acutally read the book so I know the storyline 16:17 <@northrup> Ahh... the BBCA delay from BBC1 broadcast, much like Sherlock 16:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah 16:18 <@northrup> or with BBC4 and Humans and the delay to AMC reboradcast 16:18 <@Dagmar> Another reason I've somewhat cooled on MythTV is that after the flood when my netbook and helmet got stolen, and all those thumbdrives, one of them held _all_ my work on the LCARS MythTV theme 16:18 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9a3fbujlwuvxl07/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-07%20at%204.18.09%20PM.png?dl=0 16:18 <@Dagmar> ...including my source bits and pieces. 16:19 <@Dagmar> That really pisses me off to even think about since I'd skinned the channel listings, the music player, the OSD, and the menuing system 16:19 <@Dagmar> Even in the settings menu the color schema changed to engineering, like it should 16:20 <@Dagmar> I even had various banks of purely decorative numbers that changed over time 16:20 <@Dagmar> If I ever redo it I'll be more likely to send a copy to Wil Wheaton for giggles before I'll submit it to MythTV 16:20 <@Dagmar> _Just_ refactoring the font so there was no copyright issue was 25 hours of work 16:22 <@Dagmar> when I do art, I don't fuck around 16:22 <@Evilpig> close enough to 5 for me. time to sneak the fuck out early 16:23 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:24 <@northrup> Dagmar: That sucks that it's all lost... I like the LCARS idea though 16:24 <@Dagmar> Considering what MythTV does it seemed pretty appropriate to me at the time 16:24 <@Dagmar> I'd do it again if it didn't sting so much to think about all that lost work 16:25 <@Dagmar> Seriously, that sucks ass. 16:25 <@Dagmar> At least I learned a fuckton about NTSC color in the process 16:25 <@northrup> Never Twice the Same Color ;) 16:26 <@Dagmar> I _might_ do a fiddly Android app just to have an LCAR display on my phone, but I won't be like the other guy 16:26 <@Dagmar> Universal growled at him so he pulled his app 16:26 <@Dagmar> I'll tell them to fuck right off 16:26 <@Dagmar> They've no grounds. 16:27 <@Dagmar> They don't own the font becuase font faces aren't copyrightable (only font _files_) and the look and feel infringes on exactly zero commercial products. 16:27 <@Dagmar> Also, I'm damn sure I can do better than they'd bother 16:28 <@northrup> I've never understood their desire to squash fans that aren't looking to make a buck, just revil in the nostalgia 16:28 <@Dagmar> I mention Wil Wheaton because when he was on ST:TNG he actually did all that fancy stuff his character was playing with on the show 16:28 <@Dagmar> I think he'd appreciate a _functioning_ interface 16:28 <@Dagmar> hehe 16:29 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30 <@Dagmar> northrup: It's a trademark issue, as far as I know 16:30 <@Dagmar> Trademarks _must_ be defended over time, unlike copyrights. 16:30 <@Dagmar> However, a warning letter is really all they have to do. 16:30 <@Dagmar> ...and they'd be doing themselves _much_ more harm than good by taking actual legal action against tribute/transformative works 16:31 <@Dagmar> Seriously, taking that _away_ from people who are serious enough about TV to be using MythTV and who are obviously Star Trek fans would be a _massive_ error in judgment. 16:32 <@Dagmar> I do not think they would actually sue.... nor could they really demonstrate damages. 16:32 <@Dagmar> northrup: The most important thing about NTSC I found was that the nvidia card I was using with composite output did _not_ actually properly adhere to the standards 16:33 <@Dagmar> It would emit NTSC-J, which has absolutely 0 lit blacks 16:33 <@Dagmar> ...so I actually had to make all the blacks only 4% lit to keep within the standards. 16:33 <@northrup> Hahaha! 16:33 <@northrup> I've found that with some other things too.. they are standards-'ish'... 16:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah I went to an _extreme_ degree for calibration of everyting 16:34 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 16:35 <@Dagmar> The reason to never use 0% black with NTSC is that if you mux it through an RF modulator, the video bleeds over into the audio and you get an annoying hum 16:35 <@Dagmar> I've never seen a dumb RF modulator box that didn't assume you knew what you were doing 16:36 <@Dagmar> ...and now if I do it again, I'll make it widescreen by default and I will know what to adjust for the few remaining SDTV users 16:38 <@Dagmar> This is one of the ways in which my personality seriously parallels that of Elliot from Mr. Robot. 16:38 <@Dagmar> I long ago got used to the idea that if I have no time constraints involved, I *will* know *every* possible thing about something. 16:39 <@Dagmar> At least no one's been stupid enough to try and remove my NTSC and screen alignment images from their wiki 16:40 <@Dagmar> The _reason_ they were dicks? Someone was directly advising users on bypassing certain copyright "protection" mechanisms on the Wiki and I tried to add a warning banner explaining that it might be illegal in some jurisdictions. 16:41 <@Dagmar> Literally just a pink box that handled the legal end of things. 16:41 <@Dagmar> Someone got extremely butthurt about it 16:41 <@Dagmar> My verbiage completely eliminated their liability in the matter, too. 16:41 <@Dagmar> THey don't understand how grey areas work. 16:42 <@Dagmar> Sure you can tell people how to do something that might be a fair use or jurisdictionally limited issue, but you _have_ to also mention those things 16:42 <@Dagmar> I had no problem with the measures they were taking at all. 16:44 <@Dagmar> Whether or not what a user is doing is illegal in their own area is _the user's problem_. 16:45 <@Dagmar> If there's fair use cases or jurisdictional limitations to it, you're not looking at any major trouble unless it can be claimed you're "inducing" a violation of law 16:46 <@Dagmar> Hence, disclaimer/explanation. Particularly when the vast majority of the users wouldn't be doing anything like "crime" with the information 16:46 <@Dagmar> No LEO will waste time on you 17:17 < _NSAKEY> https://github.com/yarrick/pingfs 17:18 < PigBot`> Title: yarrick/pingfs · GitHub (at github.com) 17:24 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 17:24 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Client Quit] 17:36 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:43 <@Dagmar> Wow. 17:44 <@Dagmar> Someone's taking "volatile storage media" to a whole new level with that one. 17:47 <@northrup> That... I'm not even sure what to make of that? 17:48 <@Dagmar> It's essentially self-destructing media with a _very_ short canary period. 17:49 <@Dagmar> Kind of impressive 18:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:17 <@northrup> Evilpig: do you advocate going the Plex Pass route? 18:59 <@Evilpig> if you use it alot, yes 19:00 <@Evilpig> the syncing to portable devices is pretty handy, I like being able to see who's using my server at a glance, etc 19:00 <@Evilpig> the extra music shit, meh 19:33 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-132.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-132.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 22:32 <@oddball> http://i.imgur.com/jyxOdB8.jpg --- Log closed Wed Jul 08 00:00:43 2015