--- Log opened Tue Jun 30 00:00:35 2015 00:25 -!- Neoteric [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:03 -!- Neoteric [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 01:31 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:36 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-122-237.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 01:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 01:46 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:48 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@2602:306:cd2e:1170:8d98:1d81:6115:8a2] has joined #se2600 01:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 01:48 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@2602:306:cd2e:1170:8d98:1d81:6115:8a2] has quit [Client Quit] 02:20 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:36 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:00 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 06:00 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 06:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 06:59 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:02 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:00 < Synx|hm> morning 09:14 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 09:29 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:44 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:50 <@jb7od> Whoever came up with getting up in the morning is a total dick. 09:50 <@jb7od> I place that blame squarely on the farmer. 09:51 < Synx|hm> day light savings 09:51 < Synx|hm> ya fuck the farmer 09:52 <@jb7od> I'm just sayin first shift is the real third shift and it's a conspiracy. 09:52 <@jb7od> based around not being able to water and irrigate at night without mold and root rot and whatnot. 09:55 < Synx|hm> i must have this 09:55 < Synx|hm> https://nashville.craigslist.org/tls/5058064057.html 09:55 < PigBot`> Title: ELGI 25HP Rotary Screw Air Compressor (at nashville.craigslist.org) 09:55 < Synx|hm> i dont know what it does but i need it now 10:03 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:25 < Evilpig_> Synx|hm: if you've got 10k burning a hole in your pocket, I have... uhhh... this thing that's awesome and only costs 5k 10:31 < Evilpig_> good lord that's a big cow. http://geekologie.com/2015/06/blosom-the-worlds-tallest-cow-stands-ove.php 10:31 < PigBot`> Title: Blosom, The World's Tallest Cow Stands Over Six Feet Tall | Geekologie (at geekologie.com) 10:39 < Evilpig_> http://gizmodo.com/this-is-the-one-thing-that-people-never-understand-abou-1714778038 "cats apparently follow a very loose “two for me, one for the tall thing with the thumbs” rule." 10:39 < PigBot`> Title: This Is The One Thing That People Never Understand About Cats (at gizmodo.com) 10:42 <@dasunt> Evilpig_: The one it saves for humans isn't a gift, it's a threat. 10:44 < Synx|hm> i dont really have 10k sitting around i just saw that on craigslist and though on neat i want it 10:44 < Synx|hm> what im really after is a solid 12in double bevel sliding mitersaw 10:44 < Synx|hm> and a circular saw 10:44 <@dasunt> Also, that cow picture is either odd photography, or that woman is tiny. It's more apparent in the video. Still a huge cow though. 10:46 <@dasunt> Synx|hm: Aren't circular saws like $50? 10:47 < Synx|hm> yes they are 10:48 < Synx|hm> but used is even cheaper 10:48 < Synx|hm> and i want corded 10:48 < Synx|hm> :) 10:48 <@dasunt> So pawn shops? 10:48 < Synx|hm> the 10K comment was totally unrelated simply the cost of that silly air compressor machine thingy 10:49 < Synx|hm> craigslist, ive not had many good experiences in pawn shops trying to haggle a good price 10:49 <@dasunt> I understand the corded thing though. It's just too much to deal with the pain of batteries and recharging for things I use rarely. 10:49 < Synx|hm> ya and im going to be doing framing with it dont need to stop 2 hours in to wait for batteries 10:50 < Synx|hm> my dewalt cordless drill i think is finally giving up the ghost in the battery department :( 10:50 <@dasunt> You can get spare batteries and a charger. Not sure it's worth it. 10:50 < Synx|hm> my older one last much longer the batteies outlasted the motor infact and then finally died 2 years after i replaced the motor 10:51 <@dasunt> I got to do some retrofit framing this weekend. Yah for adulthoood. Instead of blowing up random crap on the 4th, I'm going to be pulling apart a roof. 10:51 < Synx|hm> i like having a single cordless drill but not sure i need anything else cordless 10:51 < Synx|hm> what i really miss is the keyed chuck on my corded drill, its hand chucked and slips 10:51 < Synx|hm> :( 10:53 < Synx|hm> yup yay adultness 10:53 < Synx|hm> lol 10:53 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 10:54 < Synx|hm> i spent 2 hours building the wing for a rc plane for my 2 year old (really for him to watch me fly) 10:54 < Synx|hm> he grabbed it and near folded it in half last night 10:54 < Synx|hm> lol 10:54 <@Dagmar> Okay... The weather today I just don't understand 10:54 <@Dagmar> Everyone's saying rain, and I see fuck all on the radar 10:55 <@Dagmar> It'll _have_ to be popcorn showers 10:55 < Synx|hm> 50% chance i believe 10:56 < Synx|hm> my company uses concursolutions for expensing, they kept kicking back an expensereport for bs little things like they couldn't read the date on a receipt even though it was attached to a amex card charge etc, this went on for week and a half while i went unpaid 10:57 < Synx|hm> i fainlly wrote into my report, "LISTEN THIS IS NUTS, CLICK APPROVE SO MY MANAGER CAN MOVE THIS ON, CONCUR IS HORRIBLE!" 10:57 < Synx|hm> it got approved same afternoon 10:57 < Synx|hm> w00t 10:57 <@Dagmar> heh 10:57 < Evilpig_> Synx|hm: if they're open to suggestions. expensify 10:57 <@Dagmar> ...or Verbitate 10:58 <@Dagmar> ...perhaps Nounology Logistialish 10:58 < Synx|hm> they fired our amex travel reb who worked at our office for the past 9 years to go with concur 10:58 < Evilpig_> http://expensify.com/ 10:58 < PigBot`> Title: Expensify - Expense reports that don't suck! (at expensify.com) 10:58 < Evilpig_> dick 10:58 < Synx|hm> and they refuse to listen to my suggestions on anything, otherwise half our sales staff would have been fired already 10:59 <@dasunt> So way way back in my family tree, I had an ancestor that worked for the Hudson Bay Company, who grew to be in charge of several different trading posts at one time or another. 10:59 < Evilpig_> I hate doing my expense report but expensify does make it easier 10:59 < Synx|hm> Evilpig_: looks like precip chance has dropped to 20%ish until noon tomorrow then up to 50% 10:59 <@dasunt> I, being American, had the nifty idea that I should go to Canada and visit these, or the parks or history museums or whatnot that remains. 11:00 <@dasunt> After tracking down the modern locations of these trading posts I have concluded that (1) Canada is very big and (2) Canada has no infrastructure in large parts of the country. 11:00 < Evilpig_> (3) duh 11:01 <@dasunt> Hey, it wasn't obvious to me. These trading posts are over 200 years old. I expected some sign of modern civilization would show up at least nearby. 11:02 < Synx|hm> actually it seems more obvious that those trading posts would have turned into major cities 11:02 < Synx|hm> no? 11:02 <@dasunt> Or at least minor cities. 11:02 < Evilpig_> Synx|hm: fwiw expensify ties in with amex for corporate cards too 11:04 <@dasunt> Synx|hm: For the area he was mostly at, the only trading post that transitioned into a permanent settlement was Fort Albany on James Bay. 11:04 <@dasunt> Population 2,000, according to Wikipedia. 11:06 <@dasunt> Otherwise, there's nothing - literally nothing left of the trading posts. 11:07 <@dasunt> For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_House 11:07 < PigBot`> Title: Henley House - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 11:07 < Synx|hm> oh thanks comcast for calling again to let me know i just went over the cap on the last day of the month 11:07 <@dasunt> Er, https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B014%2717.0%22N+84%C2%B019%2734.0%22W/@51.397473,-84.7059762,9z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en 11:07 < Synx|hm> FUCK YOU 11:07 < PigBot`> Title: Google Maps (at www.google.com) 11:14 <@Dagmar> Synx: East of fuckin' nowhere? 11:20 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 11:24 <@dasunt> Google thinks Ogoki is a community. 11:26 <@dasunt> 50 homes and an airstrip is a community, right? 11:26 <@Dolemite> A trailer park is a community 11:27 <@Dagmar> 4chan is somehow a community 11:28 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:29 <@dasunt> Trailer park or 4chan may be an apt comparison. 11:30 <@dasunt> Isolated community where there's not much to do doesn't sound promising. 11:31 <@dasunt> I found the next community over (Fort Hope) in a news article about it's murder rate. 11:32 <@dasunt> Two murders may not be much, but when the community is 1,200 people, there's a problem. 11:32 <@dasunt> http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/christina_blizzard/2010/11/06/16003196.html 11:32 < PigBot`> Title: Fort Hopeless - Ontarios shame | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun (at www.torontosun.com) 11:33 < Synx|hm> why the fuck are the exploding kittens packages going to ship 11:33 < Synx|hm> seriously i might have moved by the time this shit gets delivered 11:39 < Evilpig_> lol 11:39 < Evilpig_> sometime inthe next few weeks 11:42 <@dasunt> Synx|hm: Would a change of address form work for rerouting the package? 11:48 < Evilpig_> should if they send it USPS 11:48 < Evilpig_> but the nashville postal service was shitty about rerouting my mail when I moved. 11:56 < Evilpig_> http://io9.com/14-tv-shows-that-reinvented-science-fiction-in-the-past-1714350217 11:56 < PigBot`> Title: 15 TV Shows That Reinvented Science Fiction In The Past Decade (at io9.com) 11:56 < Evilpig_> never heard of this misfits one. kinda interested now 12:03 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 12:03 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:03 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Changing host] 12:03 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 12:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 12:07 < Synx|hm> dasunt: god you are smart 12:23 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:33 <@dasunt> Synx|hm: I can no longer detect sarcasm. :/ 12:34 -!- robogoat [~robogoat@c-24-126-240-124.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:34 < Synx|hm> was not scarcasm :) was regarding the change of address 12:34 < Synx|hm> im an idiot 12:34 <@dasunt> I'm dealing with ticket overload, my neurons are slowly dying. 12:35 <@dasunt> I'm down to the point where I'm writing shit on a pad just so I can keep track of the 4 - 5 projects I'm doing at the same time. 12:35 < Synx|hm> ive been in that mode for 2 years 12:35 < Evilpig_> how does writing shit on a pad help that? wouldn't it be better to write things about the projects down? 12:36 * dasunt gives Evilpig_ the "Snark" award. 12:36 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 12:36 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Changing host] 12:36 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 12:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 12:37 <@dasunt> Someone in my workplace is trying to help by pointing out I'm running behind and not responding to people's requests fast enough. 12:37 * dasunt sighs. 12:44 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:48 < Synx|hm> happy appraisial 10K short day 13:00 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:15 <@dasunt> Someone's trolling, I think: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7620837&cid=50017657 13:15 < PigBot`> Title: How Computer Science Education Got Practical (Again) - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org) 13:19 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:24 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 13:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 13:29 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 13:29 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:44 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 13:46 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:51 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 13:52 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:55 <@northrup> dasunt: I always hated that... my common refrain would always be "look, do you want me to get the work done or type micro notes into the helpdesk tickets" 13:56 < RangerZ> dasunt: computer _Science_ is NOT an IT degree 13:57 < RangerZ> offhand I would have to use a calculator to compute IP ranges, etc... I did it once in my networking course, and I know/remember the basics but its something I haven't had to do in...ohh almost 10 years 13:58 < RangerZ> the problem is that Computer Science is still so young compared to the other sciences that it hasn't branched yet (formally), like EE, ChemE, ME, etc. 14:01 < RangerZ> I think we're at the cusp of that actually happening though, with majors being made to tailor towards "Software Engineering", "pre-grad school(More theoretical)", "dev-ops(mix of S.E. and I.T.)" , and "IT" 14:08 <@CRasH180> Do you think they will become that granular instead of just CIS? I suppose it will eventually happen 14:09 < RangerZ> my undergrad has IT/CIS/CS/MCIS(as masters) 14:10 < RangerZ> CS was having an enrollment slump, but its SKYROCKETED recently 14:10 < RangerZ> (another sign of possible bubble)... but I don't think it will "burst" this time 14:10 < RangerZ> b/c almost ALL jobs require computer skills now a days, etc. 14:11 < RangerZ> but yes, I could see some "specializations" forming within CS/CIS/IT depts. 14:11 < RangerZ> my undergrad is the Cisco regional academy, so we had racks upon racks upon racks of cisco gear you could play with (well _I_ could... but I didn't go into the networking route, lol) 14:12 < Synx|hm> what the fuck is all over my legs 14:12 < Synx|hm> its all below my waste, up and down my legs and thighs, ungodly itchy bites/bumps 14:12 < Synx|hm> slight red ring around and raised center 14:12 < RangerZ> ohh sorry about that, Evilpig_ was excited earlier about the 4th upcoming and roasts 14:13 < Synx|hm> been itching crazy for 4 days 14:13 < Synx|hm> chiggers? 14:13 < RangerZ> isn't that flees? 14:14 < RangerZ> http://images.medicinenet.com/images/slideshow/bad_bugs_s11.jpg 14:15 < RangerZ> http://www.healthline.com/hlcmsresource/images/slideshow/flea-bites/285x285_Flea_Bites_Symptoms_4.jpg 14:15 < Synx|hm> theres probably 5-9 solid bites on each leg 14:15 <@opticron> bed bugs? 14:15 < RangerZ> thats the first image I posted 14:15 < Synx|hm> i dont think im getting new bites though 14:15 < Synx|hm> and bed bugs wouldn't normally be limited below the waste right? 14:16 < Synx|hm> waist 14:16 <@opticron> right 14:16 < RangerZ> could be, if they were 'inside' your cloths 14:16 < RangerZ> aka sweat pants, etc 14:16 < Synx|hm> i did mow the lawn (heavy brush grass) last week 14:16 <@opticron> last time I walked through a flea-infested area, I just got bites mid-calf and below 14:16 < Synx|hm> but with pants and boots on 14:16 < Synx|hm> would flees stick around or just be bite once and wait week and all gone? 14:17 < RangerZ> depends if there was 1 female or not 14:17 < RangerZ> lol 14:17 < Synx|hm> my wife doesn't seem to have the bites either btw 14:18 < RangerZ> probably not a concern then, but if you do like with mosquito bites and put a X over the bite, to force out the toxin and spread it 14:18 < RangerZ> it should help the itching 14:18 < Synx|hm> ive been damn near bathing in antiitch cream 14:18 < RangerZ> use a finger nail to press down hard ontop of the bite 14:18 < RangerZ> then do it at 90 degrees 14:19 < RangerZ> hurts like a MFer sometimes 14:19 < RangerZ> but helps the itch 14:20 < RangerZ> know it works with 'some' bites 14:20 < RangerZ> might be worth trying 14:20 < Synx|hm> slapping the shit out of it and stabbing it with nail helps a ton 14:20 < Synx|hm> :) 14:20 < Synx|hm> but it was so bad the other night i was scratching in my sleep 14:20 < RangerZ> then yes, you still have the toxin there 14:21 < RangerZ> try the X thing 14:21 < Synx|hm> not as bad as poison ivy though 14:22 < RangerZ> you know what you should do, tell your wife, "honey, I know you are sucking my soul out of me one bite at a time, but its itchy, so could you please just do it all at once from my..... " and I'll let you get creative 14:22 < RangerZ> lol 14:23 <@opticron> I don't know how I do it, but most bug bites go away in an hour or two if I don't touch them 14:23 <@opticron> I used to have a horrible time with bug bites of any kind 14:31 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:34 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 14:38 < Synx|hm> why does it bug me so much when professionals have emails @comcast or @aol or at @randoISP 14:38 < Synx|hm> it so f'ing cheap to get a domain with email hosted just do it 14:41 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: You're not the only one. 14:41 < Synx|hm> and now they are tied to that AOL account for ever 14:41 < Synx|hm> or they lose all their potential referal contacts 14:41 < Synx|hm> its so stupid 14:42 < Synx|hm> i get it 20 years ago 14:42 < Synx|hm> not now 14:42 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, domains were expensive back then. 14:43 < _NSAKEY> Same with any sort of hosting. 14:44 < _NSAKEY> But today, it's easy (and cheap) enough to buy a domain and use google to serve up e-mail. 14:48 < RangerZ> hell most universities do it 14:48 < RangerZ> vandy has all undergrad email hosted by google 14:48 < RangerZ> its easier (and cheaper) to do it that way 14:54 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 14:56 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:24 -!- fie_ [~fie@ip72-204-90-17.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 15:24 -!- fie [~fie@ip72-204-90-17.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31 -!- fie [~fie@ip72-204-90-17.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 15:31 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 15:33 -!- fie_ [~fie@ip72-204-90-17.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:53 * northrup sadly shakes head at vanderbilt 15:57 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:12 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:15 < RangerZ> northrup: lets think about this, which is cheaper? paying Dagmar what he should be paid for his work? or outsourcing to Google? 16:15 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16 < RangerZ> also its _undergraduates_ not like they really have important email 16:16 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has joined #se2600 16:16 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@192.170.136.170] has quit [Changing host] 16:16 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 16:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 16:16 < RangerZ> all grad students and faculty use vandy equipment, hehe 16:21 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:25 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:26 <@sasquatc4> man vegas hotels are gettin like car dealers now, offered me 25$/ni midweek 50 on the weekends at the luxor, go to check it out, their daily resort 'fees' are now almost 30/day 16:26 <@sasquatc4> they used to be like 5-15 16:28 <@Dagmar> It's "You are in Hell" season. 16:29 <@sasquatc4> naw this was for mid december 16:29 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@130.207.218.197] has joined #se2600 16:38 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:58 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@130.207.218.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:02 <@northrup> RangerZ: yeah... I know... just 'back in the day' (that makes me sound old as hell) there was a pride on rolling best of breed 17:02 <@northrup> RangerZ: and we at lest TRIED to keep up with the liks of real research institutions that has CS departments 17:03 <@northrup> RangerZ: then it all changed to Google for the undergrads and Exchange for the rest... just write MS the check and hire wizard clickers 17:03 <@northrup> Christ... I need to just quit and start drinking for the day 17:08 < Synx|hm> i want to drink so so bad 17:09 < Synx|hm> but i promised the wife not to drink at all this week 17:09 < Synx|hm> :( 17:09 < Synx|hm> what a shitty week to pick 17:10 <@northrup> no doubt! 17:20 <@Dagmar> How are you supposed to properly celebrate the 4th without explosives and alcohol? 17:28 <@northrup> I wasn't going to ask that question too... Synx|hm please tell me the ban is lifted for the weekend? 17:29 <@northrup> err... WAS 17:30 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:52 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 17:52 < Synx|hm> im not sure i think yes assumign i dont sneak in a 5th of jack or jim beam some time during this disaster of a week 17:53 <@Dagmar> Okay. This is funny. 17:53 < Synx|hm> im more curious what happens tomorrow night when we do "adopted family" dinner and invite my sisters inlaws over for dinner 17:53 <@Dagmar> Google Now noticed I've been searching for information about appwidgets and callback mechanism 18:03 <@Dagmar> It scrounged up http://www.gotoquiz.com/web-coding/programming/android-development/how-to-make-an-android-home-screen-widget-update-only-when-visible/ 18:03 < PigBot`> Title: How To Make an Android Home Screen Widget Update Only When Visible | A Web Coding Blog (at www.gotoquiz.com) 18:04 <@Dagmar> Now I would like to know how to tell Google to downrank that, because it's *insane* 18:04 <@Dagmar> The guy has invented his own class libraries to "deal" with the problem of only updating when the screen is on 18:04 <@Dagmar> *blinkblink* 18:05 <@Dagmar> He's using AlarmManager. 18:08 <@Dagmar> For those of you playing the home version, it does appear he's made libraries which to my eye can do nothing *but* generate more intent broadcasts 18:15 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@c-69-247-133-179.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@c-69-247-133-179.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:15 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 18:28 <@northrup> Synx|hm: wait.... no alcohol for an sisters inlaws... you must have pissed someone off bad 18:28 <@northrup> heh 18:30 <@Dagmar> Okay. Having thought about it, that guy is insane 18:30 <@Dagmar> Lets say someone's doing a widget that updates every 90 seconds. 18:30 <@northrup> k 18:31 <@Dagmar> ...an hour goes by, the user wakes up the device, *both* the alarm driven intent *and* the user_present event will come back, one after the other. Double updates. 18:31 <@Dagmar> 45 seconds goes by, the user wakes up the phone, now the USER_PRESENT intent will come back, but for no good reason because it's not yet time to even try to update the display. 18:32 <@Dagmar> It's a damn good thing I think of things in four dimensions. 18:32 <@Dagmar> What he's trying to do is basically going to have the opposite of it's intended effect. 18:34 <@Dagmar> I am *not* amused by this change to AlarmManager in 5.1 at all 18:34 <@Dagmar> Every other way of doing it seems to require me to have an object around so I have a way to shut the other process down 18:34 <@Dagmar> ...except widgets don't really let you guarantee that 18:35 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure that's _worse_ than the other problem I ran into before where my handle to the alarm intent was being reaped out from under me 18:48 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-122-237.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:26 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 20:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 21:08 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:21 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:35 -!- jb7od [~jb70d2@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 21:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 21:39 <@jb7od> Anybody ever get stuck on a virtualbox with an xfce load where you seemingly can't adjust the resolution? 21:40 <@jb7od> this ettercap is so fuckin big it's like ETT on the screen and that's it... lol 21:49 <@CRasH180> I seem to remember that happening a long time ago in a vbox image several years ago 21:49 <@CRasH180> Can't remember how the heck I fixed it though 21:50 <@jb7od> I found a package supposedly that will fix it: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms 21:50 <@jb7od> 640x480 is obn0xious 21:51 < Synx|hm> oh skype for business (aka lync) why must you suck so hard 21:52 <@jb7od> is it that bad? I'd looked at it (I'm not sure the office would really get on board, they didn't get into the fax server. they like the exercise) but I kinda shyed away 21:53 <@jb7od> as bad as Ex2k10 has been for me, I'm a little terrified. lol 21:53 -!- robogoat [~robogoat@c-24-126-240-124.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:04 < Synx|hm> let me put it this way i work for a company who's entire purpose in life is load testing voice quality of both TDM and VoIP lines in both major carriers/service providers and enterprise like Apple etc... 22:04 < Synx|hm> damn near every conf call i am on that we host on our lync platform our customers complain that perhaps we should voice quality test our own system 22:05 < Synx|hm> it is 100% possible our IT team sucks at life 22:05 < Synx|hm> though 22:10 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-122-237.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 22:14 <@CRasH180> Lync is the suck 22:15 <@CRasH180> Webex is so much more mature of a tool. 22:15 < Synx|hm> i have a recurring problem with webex where by i have full mouse control but no keyboard input 22:15 <@CRasH180> Synx|hm: Nope, this is not a problem with your IT team 22:16 <@CRasH180> This is a MS Lync/Skype/Skyrisoft 22:16 <@jb7od> I used to have a webex acct. Kinda miss it. 22:16 < Synx|hm> we dont pay for the super fancy webex just the support one on one tool 22:16 <@CRasH180> I have experienced the same issue with my keyboard input in Webex 22:16 < Synx|hm> :( 22:16 < Synx|hm> i had to resort to getting 30day trials of go to meeting for about 4 months 22:16 <@CRasH180> It did not happen a lot, but did happen 22:16 <@jb7od> CRasH180: that package fixed the xfce 640x480 bs. 22:17 <@CRasH180> I like LogMeIn 22:17 < Synx|hm> would be hosting training sessions as burt bacharach (sp?) was hilarious 22:17 <@CRasH180> awesome 22:17 <@CRasH180> What did I do to fix that issue? There is a work around 22:18 < Synx|hm> it was RDP inside webex related for me 22:18 <@CRasH180> I think I had to install a plug-in/driver or something to get it to work properly 22:18 <@CRasH180> Just a sec 22:18 < Synx|hm> so i could drop back to the remote main desktop type into notepad copy and paste it into the RDP session 22:18 <@CRasH180> Right, done that 22:18 < Synx|hm> ya let me know becuase i still run into it and it is a MOSTER pain in the ass 22:19 <@CRasH180> yep 22:19 <@CRasH180> Been there done that 22:24 < Evilpig_> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/30/california-internet-outage/29521335/ 22:24 < PigBot`> Title: FBI investigating 11 attacks on San Francisco-area Internet lines (at www.usatoday.com) 22:24 < Evilpig_> get out your tin foil hats boys and girls, this is gonna be a bumpy one 22:26 <@CRasH180> Synx|hm: Are you using a wireless keyboard and/or mouse? 22:26 < Synx|hm> wireless mouse, wired keyboard 22:27 <@CRasH180> When this happens, what happens if you disconnect the keyboard and plug it into a different USB port? 22:27 <@CRasH180> or PS/2 port :P 22:27 < Synx|hm> hadn't tried 22:28 <@CRasH180> Is this on a laptop? 22:28 < Synx|hm> should clarify this is happening when i am controling somebody elses computer 22:28 <@CRasH180> I understand 22:28 < Synx|hm> i still have full local use of my keyboard/mouse just via the webex my keyboard does nothing 22:28 < Synx|hm> oh ok sorry 22:28 < Synx|hm> yes laptop 22:28 <@CRasH180> Aha 22:29 <@CRasH180> Ok, please do this. Remove the Synaptics software from starting with the computer 22:29 <@CRasH180> Or, whatever the fuck it is that is installed for the mouse and keyboard 22:29 < Synx|hm> will do 22:29 <@CRasH180> I believe this is what was causing my issue 22:29 <@CRasH180> Once I disabled this shit, it started working 22:29 <@CRasH180> I believe that was what fixed it for some time 22:30 <@CRasH180> It was a MAJOR pain in the ars and I got seriously tired of it 22:30 < Synx|hm> awesome thanks for the heads up!! 22:31 <@CRasH180> not a problem. Hope this helps. I would suggest turning everything off from startup except essentials, or even hell, kill those too 22:31 <@CRasH180> Start from the ground up to find the one that is causing the issue 22:31 <@CRasH180> Might take a lot of f'ing reboots. But, that will clear it up 22:32 <@CRasH180> Wow, that brought up some very angry issues working on the helpdesk 22:32 <@CRasH180> I am never working on a f'ing helpdesk again 22:32 <@CRasH180> Well, never say never 22:32 <@CRasH180> But, I am burned out of that stuff 22:35 <@CRasH180> Anyway. I am tired and need to get ready for bed 22:35 <@CRasH180> Hope that helps you 22:35 <@CRasH180> g'night all 22:37 <@jb7od> Nite mane. 22:38 < Synx|hm> g'nite 22:43 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:58 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:58 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:59 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:03 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:03 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:03 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 23:21 -!- CRasH180_next [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:23 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Jul 01 00:00:37 2015