--- Log opened Sun Jun 21 00:00:26 2015 00:43 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-90.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:15 < RangerZ> if anyone is looking for a really good game in the metroid-vania genre of exploration/etc Ori and the Blind Forest is now on steam (was xbox exclusive for a while) and it got rave reviews from everyone 01:27 < RangerZ> I watched a fair amount of gameplay and its really pretty too ... and picked it up myself 01:27 < RangerZ> [ Donald Trump Caught Renting Actors for $50 to Cheer for Him at Presidential Announcement ] and.... this is why the GOP should be scared of Donald Trump... he is basically the GOP's Id... and knows it...and doesn't care 01:43 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I linked that story in here a couple of days ago. 01:57 < RangerZ> he's going to get up on the debate stage and be like "well I'm worth more than you" to answer everything they say 01:57 < RangerZ> and that'll basically shut them up 01:57 < RangerZ> b/c what... are they going to say "a business man isn't suited for leadership" , etc.... 01:58 < RangerZ> and he is his own billionaire 01:58 < RangerZ> he doesn't need to go around and kneel to sheldon adelson 01:58 < RangerZ> etc 02:05 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:20 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:31 <@Dagmar> Are you *sure* he's a billionaire? 02:31 <@Dagmar> BIllionaires don't tend to wind up in bankruptcy as often as he has 02:34 <@Dagmar> Also, Tales from the Borderlands, half price on Steam now 02:34 <@Dagmar> Very much worth $12.49 02:35 <@Dagmar> I keep thinking that at some point, someone's going to make "trainers" for those Telltale games that just plays them for you like a movie 02:37 <@Dagmar> "Dewshine" isn't bad 02:49 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-90.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 04:20 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:35 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:36 < RangerZ> Dagmar: actually yes, billionaires make use of bankruptcy law quite often, just not the 'normal' class of bankruptcy we're used to 04:36 < RangerZ> and hell, even Lincoln went bankrupt 2x, and had like 3 failed businesses, lost election like 4x before becoming president 04:37 < RangerZ> there is a great quote about that out there 04:38 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I don't think anyone who casually uses bankruptcy has any business being President 04:39 <@Dagmar> At least, not with _today's_ financial systems 04:39 <@Dagmar> They only dealt with _actual_ money in Lincoln's day 04:40 <@Dagmar> Our _current_ financial system basically allows banks to make a profit from money that doesn't _actually exist_ 04:40 <@Dagmar> ...which essentially means, _they control inflation_ 04:41 <@Dagmar> In Lincoln's day, they'd have to basically run out of gold 04:41 <@Dagmar> Now can somehow wind up underwater in debt to ourselves 04:42 <@Dagmar> At least Sanders understands the concept of 'concenr' 04:42 <@Dagmar> er 'concern' 04:58 < RangerZ> ohh I agree that our current system is fucked, just saying that 'bankruptcy in and of itself' isn't a great sin 04:58 < RangerZ> especially the kind that allows you to restructure your debt and pay it off slowly, etc. 04:59 < RangerZ> whats sad is.... he's the only GOP candidate that doesn't want to cut social security 04:59 < RangerZ> thats literally the only stance he has that varies at all from the mainline stance 04:59 < RangerZ> and that will sell well to voters 05:00 < RangerZ> the republicants have dug their own grave with him, b/c they have basically held a mold of that they said they wanted in a candidate... and trump is basically that mold 07:21 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:37 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 07:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:19 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:24 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@pool-96-233-107-211.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 08:24 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@pool-96-233-107-211.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:24 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:07 -!- am1n0_ [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has joined #se2600 09:08 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @am1n0 09:13 -!- crashcart [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yicslbickyhyrnph] has joined #se2600 09:21 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:21 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 09:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 09:52 -!- rattleX [~Rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 09:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattleX] by ChanServ 09:52 -!- rattleX [~Rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Client Quit] 10:21 < Evilpig_> Dolemite: have you seen this new show on scifi called "dark matter" ? they have the chick from lost girl that plays dr lauren playing a horrible android 11:10 < Evilpig_> http://www.odditycentral.com/news/guy-dresses-up-as-his-girlfriend-to-take-tough-exam-in-her-place.html 11:10 < PigBot`> Title: Guy Dresses Up as His Girlfriend to Take Tough Exam in Her Place | Oddity Central - Collecting Oddities (at www.odditycentral.com) 11:32 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:48 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:52 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: what's the warmup time on digitalocean vs the other place? 12:39 < _NSAKEY> DO gives you a box within minutes. 12:39 < _NSAKEY> Kimsufi takes a couple hours, since I guess someone in France has to physically rack and stack a 1U atom server. 12:43 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I know of a title loan company that filed bankruptcy several years back. 12:43 < _NSAKEY> They did it right after the economy crashed. 12:44 < _NSAKEY> Merrill Lynch was retarded and didn't understand that the title loan company was making Korean loan shark-level amounts of interest, and basically told them, "Your interest rate is going up Y amount." 12:45 < _NSAKEY> So TitleMax filed bankruptcy pretty much for the sole purpose of having a bankruptcy judge force Merrill Lynch to give them their old interest rate again. 12:46 < _NSAKEY> It wasn't a matter of "We can't pay this." 12:46 < _NSAKEY> They just really didn't feel like paying the higher interest rate, and I guess some bean counter decided it would be easier to put the company through 2 years of everybody questioning their financial soundness by filing bankruptcy. 12:46 < _NSAKEY> *easier and cheaper 12:48 < aestetix> hmm ok 12:49 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Did you buy a kimsufi box and wonder what's happening? 12:49 < aestetix> no 12:49 < aestetix> not yet 12:49 < aestetix> I was about to though 12:49 < aestetix> and was wondering about expectations 12:49 < _NSAKEY> That happened to me. Right around the time I started thinking, "These people are asleep at the wheel," I got an e-mail saying that the box was ready. 12:50 < _NSAKEY> I'll sum it up like this. 12:50 < _NSAKEY> DigitalOcean: 2-3 minutes, and that's if you're goofing off. 12:50 < _NSAKEY> Kimsufi: 2-3 hours. 12:50 < aestetix> ok 12:50 < _NSAKEY> One thing to note is that while the kimsufi box has more RAM and such, the atom proc is super slow. 12:51 * aestetix nods 12:51 < _NSAKEY> Running my upgrade script on both (Which runs freebsd-update and pkg upgrade) takes a lot longer on the kimsufi box. 12:51 < aestetix> Is this the same atom proc that's in the netbooks? 12:52 < _NSAKEY> If you google the models, they're used for atom servers. 12:52 < _NSAKEY> I'm sure they're not much different or better than what you'd find in a netbook. 12:52 < aestetix> Also, if I have a server hosted in france, using my deutsch bank account, the US cannot touch me :) 12:54 < _NSAKEY> They will decide that they can if they ever figure out you're a US citizen. 12:54 < _NSAKEY> If you use a domain, stay away from any under US governance. 12:54 < _NSAKEY> That means, no aestetix.com. 12:55 < aestetix> I know. 12:55 < aestetix> I also remember the megaupload case 12:58 < aestetix> https://github.com/0xAX/linux-insides/blob/master/SUMMARY.md 12:58 < PigBot`> Title: linux-insides/SUMMARY.md at master · 0xAX/linux-insides · GitHub (at github.com) 13:19 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:35 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:36 < RangerZ> aestetix: actually US can touch you if you are using internet stuff in the EU, at least the US thinks so 15:37 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: They have this thing where they just decide they can legally do something, and start doing it. 15:37 < RangerZ> I think the justification was some obscure part of NATO or something 15:38 < RangerZ> but yeah, I saw it on the news, and didn't really care much about details 16:29 < RangerZ> plus thats the basis of neo-con presidential law-thought : "if the president did it, then its legal" 16:30 < RangerZ> mainly b/c chaney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld were pissed that Nixon got in trouble for doing things they thought were 'alright' 17:04 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:48 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:04 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:36 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@listening-post.abigisp.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@listening-post.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 18:36 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@listening-post.abigisp.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:39 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@listening-post.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 19:35 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:49 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:10 -!- crashcart [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yicslbickyhyrnph] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:11 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:26 < Evilpig_> replacing an lcd on a laptop for my neighbor. i'm shocked... I can get a replacement for $66 21:27 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:29 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig_: How old is the laptop? 21:35 < Evilpig_> fairly 21:35 < Evilpig_> HP Pavilion g7-1219wm 21:36 < Evilpig_> it's at the right age that corporate types have been selling them off en masse and they're getting parted out --- Log closed Mon Jun 22 00:00:27 2015