--- Log opened Fri Jun 19 00:00:24 2015
00:10 < _NSAKEY> Yup.
00:11 < _NSAKEY> I remember reading at least part of the leaked guide for british intelligence people who went to China.
00:12 < _NSAKEY> They probably had real spies all over that person.
00:24 < RangerZ> anyone used https://slack.com/ ?
00:24 < PigBot`> Title: Slack: Be less busy (at slack.com)
00:28 < RangerZ> The reason I ask is b/c I saw this in the MOOC and was amused [ A few students have started a slack group (https://mobile-app-android.slack.com). If you're not familiar with slack, it's more like IRC for modern time ]
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00:35 <@SuMo_D> ello room
00:41 < RangerZ> hello
00:41 < RangerZ> hows our 4th favorite person from SC ?
00:42 <@SuMo_D> 4th favorite?
00:42 < RangerZ> hehe j/k, obviously no one from SC wants to be reminded of that... especially today :/
00:42 <@SuMo_D> eh, I'm proud of my adopted home....
00:42 <@SuMo_D> even on sad days like today
00:43 < RangerZ> sad?
00:43 < RangerZ> did you know anyone there? or just in general?
00:43 <@SuMo_D> with the shooting... yes... sad
00:43 < RangerZ> I meant 'sad yourself?'
00:44 <@SuMo_D> I was there last weekend, walked down that street and he was arrested about 30 min. from my home. but no, didn't know anybody directly involved... apparently an aqaintance of mine has mutual facebook friends with the killer but that's about as close as it gets
00:45 < RangerZ> ouch, sorry to hear that
00:45 <@SuMo_D> he's one of the most outspoken activists I know though, but yeah our state is pretty small seems like everyone knows somebody
00:45 < RangerZ> I am kinda purposely ignoring news about it, b/c honestly I just can't take shitty news like that right now
00:45 <@SuMo_D> and yeah its just a sad day in general for myself and our community
00:46 <@SuMo_D> I hope it'll be a catalyst though, there's already been some discussions started and hopefully this will force people to take it more seriously
00:47 < RangerZ> take 'what' though...
00:47 < RangerZ> SC and parts of NC are home to some of the most racist people on earth?
00:48 < RangerZ> my grandmother wasn't allowed to drive my great-grandfather's car in town in part of NC b/c she was a red headed freckled irish woman, and it would look bad upon him in society, and it would hurt his business, etc...  b/c she wasn't Protestant :/
00:49 < RangerZ> and then one time one of his friends was in the car with great grandfather driving, his friend in passenger seat... grandfather and grandmother in back
00:49 < RangerZ> and pointed to a cliff "thats where we throw the blacks and catholics off from"
00:49 < RangerZ> and SC just gets "better" from there
00:50 <@SuMo_D> eh, I'd debate that... I've been all around this country and I've definitely seen a lot more violently racist fucks in other regions. Most people here have moved on... but there's also a lot of rural areas and pockets of uneducated asshats
00:50 <@SuMo_D> but every place expresses it differently...
00:51 <@SuMo_D> I will say SC has a lot my racisim with a smile and institutional racisim
00:51 <@SuMo_D> than say Cali or NY
00:51 <@SuMo_D> where its just openly hostile
00:51 <@SuMo_D> again, depending on the region and community
00:51 < RangerZ> NC outside the triangle, SC outside the coast, TN outside of downtown nashville/vandy ;), and PA between Philly and Pitt
00:52 < RangerZ> Nashville has a lot of institutional too, the don't even have a fucking HUD program in this county
00:52 < RangerZ> they have an 'exception' from the federal gov't to have another program that helps "families" get houses
00:52 < RangerZ> ~26 years.... 30 families in houses
00:53 < RangerZ> at this point I'd basically never live more than ~10 miles away from a University, b/c you're just ask for trouble
00:54 < RangerZ> univ. is just abbrev. for major city
00:55 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Even that doesn't hold up 100%.
00:55 < RangerZ> no
00:55 < RangerZ> just 'rule of thumb'
00:55 < _NSAKEY> MTSU is in Murfreesboro, for example.
00:56 < _NSAKEY> Just look at the kicking and screaming that particular group of inbreds did over the mosque.
00:56 < RangerZ> norfolk va for example ... fuck every person I've ever met from that place... (not that EVERY person from there is bad... but jesus... out of the 5 I met... they were among the 8 worst people I've ever met for racism)
00:57 < RangerZ> that and homophobia
00:57 < RangerZ> they all said "no homo" back in summer of 09... and the rest of us were like ... 'wtf are you talking about'
00:59 < RangerZ> they explained it... and we were all shocked, b/c none of us had heard it (this was a summer internship for undergrads at UC Berkeley)
00:59 < RangerZ> and they were such asshats about it.... that we decided to 'deal' with it...
01:00 < _NSAKEY> It's been around longer than that.
01:00 < RangerZ> i'm sure it has
01:00 < RangerZ> but none of US had ever heard it
01:00 < _NSAKEY> According to google, it started in harlem in the 90s.
01:01 < RangerZ> it got to the point where the crew from Youngstown, NYC, and Cali started fucking with them by purposely saying misleading sexual stuff... and then saying "yes homo" and winking
01:01 < RangerZ> its fun to screw with homophobic asshats that way, lol...
01:02 < _NSAKEY> It's usually fun to mess with anyone like that.
01:03 < _NSAKEY> The oddest things will set them off, too.
01:04 <@SuMo_D> thankfully there are less and less of them
01:04 < _NSAKEY> That's only the case around here because so many people have moved in from other places and diluted the local stock.
01:05 <@SuMo_D> I actually got invited to an OutLoud meeting tomorrow, which yeah I'd say the homophobia is worse than the racisim in our coummunity
01:06 <@SuMo_D> even though I know more transgender people than I have any other place
01:06 < RangerZ> out loud?
01:06 < RangerZ> gay support group or something?
01:06 < RangerZ> << could have googled, but 'ehh'
01:07 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I'm googling this guy who was mentioned in one of the mosque articles.
01:07 <@SuMo_D> I moved to Spartanburg from Greenville/Travelers rest and people always give me shit about it..... and how "ghetto" and "dangerous" its so funny how many people say that though with never even going the 20 miles to see the community
01:07 < _NSAKEY> When we were kids, I called him a white trash piece of shit to his face in front of a bunch of other kids.
01:07 < _NSAKEY> Turns out that I called that one like a boss.
01:07 < RangerZ> lol
01:07 < RangerZ> nice
01:07 <@SuMo_D> but I saw demographic breakdowns the other day Greenville is 74% white and Spartanburg is 44% white....
01:07 < _NSAKEY> SuMo_D: I read an article about Spartanburg once. Was not impressed.
01:07 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: there was a really good piece on NPR about that
01:08 <@SuMo_D> wonder how much that plays in on a structural bais basis
01:08 < RangerZ> not about spartanburg, but some city in Indiana
01:08 <@SuMo_D> OutLoud is a gay social group
01:08 < _NSAKEY> This woman needs to have her teeth removed with a hammer. http://www.wspa.com/story/26073924/spartanburg-woman-accused-of-biting-repo-driver-has-history-of-run-ins
01:08 < PigBot`> Title: Spartanburg Woman Accused Of Biting Repo Driver Has History Of R - WSPA.com (at www.wspa.com)
01:09 <@SuMo_D> _NSAKEY its not a very impressive community... but its trying and its getting there
01:09 < _NSAKEY> That's about all I know about Spartanburg.
01:09 <@SuMo_D> better than the stepford wive mentality of Greenville
01:10 <@SuMo_D> slap a smile and repeat the mantra We're all happy here! All happy all the time! All safe! All clean! No deviants!
01:10 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: This kid has mugshots on the internet too, and his criminal history is cracking me up.
01:10 <@SuMo_D> I've had friends run out of the park for hula hooping and making friendship bracelets in Greenville cause they were too hippie looking.... Spartanburg... has actual problems to deal with
01:11 <@SuMo_D> so they've got less of a stranglehold on shit
01:11 <@SuMo_D> that being said, I still do a lot of stuff in Greenville and they'll probably merge into a metropolis in the not so far future
01:12 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: "like nashville"
01:12 < RangerZ> nashville isn't a city
01:12 < RangerZ> its a group of micro-cities
01:13 < RangerZ> every fucking 1000 ft you're in another NAMED part of the city
01:14 < _NSAKEY> Sounds about right.
01:14 < _NSAKEY> I had a dry erase marker-friendly map of Nashville once that had all the parts of town drawn out and labeled.
01:14 < _NSAKEY> This was circa 2004.
01:14 < RangerZ> I much preferred living in a township that was built by my great-grandfather (no I mean it, he was the architect/engineer who designed every road in the township, etc... lol)
01:15 <@Dagmar> Neither of you have seen San Francisco apparently
01:15 < _NSAKEY> It's changed a good bit since then.
01:15 <@Dagmar> "neighborhoods" there can be two blocks by five blocks in size
01:15 < RangerZ> Dagmar: yeah I have, its silly too
01:15 < _NSAKEY> The section labeled "East Nashville - Bad" is now full of hipsters.
01:20 < aestetix> Where are all these hipsters coming from?
01:21 < RangerZ> the tech boom in nashville
01:21 < RangerZ> medical companies are centered here
01:22 < RangerZ> a lot of them b/c of Vanderbilt Hospital, a lot b/c of geographic reasons
01:22 < RangerZ> within 550 miles of Nashville 2/3 the US population lives or something like that
01:22 < aestetix> So basically the inner cities are going to become expensive and suburbs are going to become ghettos?
01:22 < RangerZ> already there
01:23 < RangerZ> aestetix: think of SF where there is no 'real' limit on the # of high rise condos you can build
01:24 < RangerZ> there are at least 5~7 being built right now
01:24 < RangerZ> and 3
01:24 < RangerZ> and 3~6 in the pre-building (demolishing buildings/blasting bedrock to build basements/etc)
01:24 < RangerZ> and more in the planning stage
01:25 < aestetix> Wht do you think has caused this shift?
01:25 < aestetix> Young white kids decided they were sick of the suburbs?
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01:35 < RangerZ> no
01:35 < RangerZ> there aren't "really" suburbs here
01:36 < RangerZ> compared to other medium sized cities i'm familiar with
01:37 < RangerZ> well I shouldn't say that... there are definitely suburbs... but not many and they are geographically isolated from each other
01:37 < RangerZ> basically you don't travel if you don't have a car, or catch the bus
01:37 < RangerZ> which most people don't ride
01:38 < RangerZ> Franklin, for example is a standard suburb, as would be madison... but other than being in TN, the similarities end there , lol
01:39 < RangerZ> I live 17 min away by car, but b/c it is a different direction ... people who live ~17min away in another direction think its 'really far away'
01:39 < RangerZ> (from vandy)
01:41 < RangerZ> a lot of that has to do with the fact that "You can't get there from here" except via 1 of 2~3 major highways, most of the time
01:41 < RangerZ> which is why its nice to live downtown
01:42 < RangerZ> there are actually apartments across the street from work on music row for rent... but I'd be too much of a procrastinator that I'd always be late... lol
01:43 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Probably at least part of the shift involves kickbacks related to building stuff.
01:44 < aestetix> It's just funny, I remember in the early 90s how everyone was afraid of the inner cities
01:50 < _NSAKEY> https://gist.github.com/chrisboulton/40ac2e5e9c688dabccb9
01:50 < PigBot`> Title: Theres been a constant stream of crazy in my personal inbox as of late. Im not quite sure what to make of the below, but someone seems to be seriously confused and assume I run/control all MyBB powered forums. How do I handle this? (at gist.github.com)
01:56 < aestetix> penis
01:59 <@SuMo_D> and how!
01:59 <@SuMo_D> das vagina
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04:14 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhkLfnMXIvM hahaha...
04:15 < RangerZ> [Cops Suspended For Belonging To White Supremacist Group] (Anniston Alabama)
04:17 < RangerZ> oddball would have a vein pop, hehe
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07:19 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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12:59 <@sync350> PONG
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15:57 <@CRasH180> Hello everyone
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23:07  * northrup yells, "what? Mirage ... I couldn't hear you?"
23:09 <@northrup> ... damn - where is everyone?
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