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00:00 < _NSAKEY> You could tell he just loved the idea that maybe his design would get used to help destabilize some dinky little country on the other side of the map.
00:00 <@jb7od> I didn't figure you guys were talking about the sex-ramp thing... lol. That's a liberator too.
00:01 <@oddball> Since then, folks have actually printed some neat looking revolvers.  Of course, I haven't seen too many reports of whether they actually work, and how long until they eat themselves.
00:02 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Yeah... he clearly designed it for political reasons.
00:03 < _NSAKEY> He'll probably go to jail for some trumped up charges unrelated to what he's doing.
00:03 < _NSAKEY> That's what seems to happen to anyone who dares to have and publish a  brilliant but possibly evil idea.
00:04 < _NSAKEY> The fact that he's gone out of his way to work within the system in terms of licensing is comical, because then they can't really say too much about what he's doing.
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00:04 <@oddball> Oh, there was all sorts of gnashing of teeth when it came out.  "what do you mean what he's doing is legal?!"
00:05 <@oddball> Although, the DoD did send him a cease and desist letter telling him to take the plans down under ITAR after about a month.
00:05 <@jb7od> That's one of those things like distillation though- the information by itself is inert.
00:05 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I remember that, and I remember downloading them off some tor site and then never doing anything with them.
00:05 < _NSAKEY> For me it's not about actually making the things.
00:06 < _NSAKEY> It's forbidden knowledge, and I wanted to see just how hard it was to find.
00:06 <@oddball> Well, in most state's in the US, it's perfectly legal to make your own firearm without permission of the state... as long as you don't try to sell it.
00:06 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: yep... same here... and many of my gun geek friends.
00:08 <@oddball> Honestly, the Liberator 3D printed gun (along with all of the purely 3D printed guns I've seen) is complete crap compared to those that you can go out and buy.
00:08 <@oddball> Now... the 3D printed AR lowers... that's a different story.
00:08 < _NSAKEY> Well, yeah.
00:08 < _NSAKEY> I don't know what the cost of printing a Liberator would be, but something like that is probably never going to be THAT great.
00:09 < _NSAKEY> And really, you can't fault the guy for that because he declares up front that it's designed to be shot once or twice to kill someone with a better gun.
00:09 <@jb7od> I don't know if I'd be comfortable testing it.
00:09 <@jb7od> lol
00:09 <@oddball> If nothing else, no one has figured out how to print a *rifled* barrel.
00:10 <@oddball> It's also an interesting experiment.
00:10 <@jb7od> (hahaha! i was thinkin it... )
00:12 <@oddball> Now... the barrel bit might change with the metal 3D printers, but we'll see.  I think the industry still makes smooth bore barrel blanks and then comes through with a rifling jig.
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00:21 <@oddball> hey RangerZ
00:22 < RangerZ> yo
00:24 < RangerZ> sup?
00:25 <@oddball> Oh, we were just talking about 3D printed guns.
00:25 <@jb7od> ya they were.
00:25 <@jb7od> lol
00:26 < RangerZ> just like the NRA says, guns don't kill people, people do
00:26 < RangerZ> I don't have a problem with guns
00:26 < RangerZ> I have a problem with gun owners
00:26 <@jb7od> Rifling though- as a project.
00:26 < RangerZ> ;)
00:26 < RangerZ> lol
00:26 <@jb7od> I've met some police officers I wouldn't trust to bake a chicken, so point taken.
00:27 <@oddball> Yeah... and remember, they're the only ones properly trained and responsible enough to carry guns... or so I'm told.
00:28 <@oddball> Notice that most gun control laws have a carve out for current and, often, former police.
00:28 <@jb7od> anybody see that old boy with the oil can supressor? he's both.
00:28 <@oddball> Oh god... those things.
00:30 <@oddball> I have nothing against them.  I think they should be legal and we should all be able to buy surpressors with a $200 tax stamp and months of paperwork, but that's not the case.
00:30 <@oddball> And I see the adapters being sold at gun shows as "solvent traps."  Because, uh, cleaning guns is so terribly messy.
00:31 <@oddball> I even saw one table with a sign stating that you shall not have the adapter attached with oil filter when discharging the gun... because that would be a felony.
00:33 < RangerZ> actually shooting it?
00:33 < RangerZ> or selling it to be used that way?
00:33 < RangerZ> or both
00:34 <@oddball> According to the ATF, both.
00:35 < RangerZ> so a friend went back to Egypt for the summer
00:36 < RangerZ> and I now am kicking myself
00:36 < RangerZ> I should have had him get me some 800 thread count sheets
00:36 < RangerZ> or higher
00:36 < RangerZ> lol
00:36 <@oddball> heh
00:36 < RangerZ> I got a new 500 count set on the bed right now
00:36 < RangerZ> and its stupid comfortable
00:38 <@oddball> Frankly, I don't have as much of a problem with the ATF saying that intent to use those as a silencer is illegal as much as their ruling on the sig AR pistol "I swear it's not a buttstock" brace.
00:39 <@oddball> Basically, they've decided that those things are good as long as they don't think that you've ever used the brace to shoulder it... or intend to.  Then it's a felony.
00:40 <@oddball> I kind of wish they had told Sig "yeah... no.  That's a buttstock.  I don't care that it has a velcro strap on it."
00:40 < RangerZ> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/09/iraq-white-house-isil-islamic-state/28765053/ so we're getting new Iraq base with 500 new soilders there
00:40 < PigBot`> Title: Obama weighs adding hundreds more troops in Iraq (at www.usatoday.com)
00:40 < RangerZ> *yay.....* fuck
00:41 <@oddball> But... I thought we were done there. :p
00:41 < RangerZ> you know... you say another smartass thing like that, and I won't give your better half that 5$ coupon for play-asia
00:41 < RangerZ> lol
00:41 <@oddball> As we continue our history of never leaving a place we've had military action in... ever.
00:41 <@oddball> Well, sorry. We did leave Vietnam.
00:42 < RangerZ> we also left mexico
00:42 < RangerZ> and canada
00:42 <@oddball> ...sort of.
00:42 <@jb7od> I don't get the canada one. lol
00:42 < RangerZ> just b/c "mexico left us" doesn't mean anything
00:42 < RangerZ> jb7od: we fought over the border in the war of 1812
00:42 <@oddball> We left Mexico because we took the bits we wanted.
00:43 <@oddball> As for Canada... I know they invaded us.  Didn't realize we ever went up there.
00:43 <@jb7od> I thought we were talking occupation, sorry-
00:44 < RangerZ> nothing beats the "war" between Ohio and Michigan
00:44 < RangerZ> where they shot (with 19th cent rifles) across the toledo river
00:44 < RangerZ> (where the rounds couldn't even reach the other side)
00:44 <@oddball> And now we're just selling guns to their drug dealers, and selling to the Mexican government... which then gets into the hands of their drug dealers.
00:45 < RangerZ> which ended up with ohio getting toledo and 20mile strip around it
00:45 < RangerZ> and michigan got the Upper Peninsula part
00:45 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Don't forget giving those same dealers CIA protection in exchange for being informants for the intel community.
00:45 < RangerZ> b/c Ohio was a state, and MI was only a territory, lol
00:45 <@jb7od> that's the only cool thing I've ever heard about ohio.
00:46 <@oddball> RangerZ: So both lost.  Ohio got Toledo, and Michigan got the yuppers. :p
00:46 < RangerZ> jb7od: so many astronauts have come from ohio, that nasa has a page on their site apologizing to the rest of the nation
00:46 <@jb7od> Wow...
00:47 < RangerZ> http://www.cracked.com/article_18421_6-insane-coincidences-you-wont-believe-actually-happened_p2.html
00:47 <@oddball> Wright-Patterson AFB is also a huge base, and the hone of the USAF air museum... which is huge and awesome.
00:47 <@oddball> s/hone/home
00:48 < RangerZ> OSU's college airport trains most of the pilots in the US too
00:48 <@oddball> The Cincinati Zoo is pretty cool too.
00:48 < RangerZ> which.... I found odd... that OSU has its own private airport
00:48 < RangerZ> lol
00:49 <@oddball> Actually, Cincinati is a pretty cool city in general.
00:49 <@oddball> But seriously, fuck Toledo.
00:49 < RangerZ> except they ruin their spaghetti and chili at the same time
00:49 <@oddball> heh... fair enough.
00:50 < RangerZ> but yeah. toledo is pretty crap tastic... and this coming from the guy from Youngstown
00:50 < RangerZ> at least we have the first museum of american art, lol
00:50 < RangerZ> ....which STILL I find amusing.... lol
00:51 <@oddball> That is kind of random
00:51 < RangerZ> and the only reason we have it... is b/c Maag (contemporary or Rockefeller, etc) wanted a painting, and the previous owner wouldn't sell it except to a museum
00:51 < RangerZ> so he founded a museum
00:51 < RangerZ> lol
00:52 <@oddball> Sounds like something one of those guys would do.
00:52 < RangerZ> sorry... BUTLER
00:52 < RangerZ> Maag was later, but also stupid rich
00:52 < RangerZ> Butler PA, the school that surprises everyone every like 5th year by having a really good basketball team
00:52 < RangerZ> etc... all named after him
00:54 < RangerZ> what was cool was when I was in grade school, we went every year for a field trip, and it was cool to see some of the 'cool' exhibits they had, like the lego art show they had
00:54 < RangerZ> etc http://butlerart.com/
00:54 < PigBot`> Title: - The Butler Institute of American Art The Butler Institute of American Art (at butlerart.com)
00:55 < RangerZ> but yeah, b/c it started out so early, it has a ton of really important collections, which they loan out to other museums for trade for other cool stuff coming there, lol
00:55 < RangerZ> and... its free.... so there is always that, lol
00:55 <@oddball> cool
00:57 <@oddball> Similar to me laughing at a couple of the tours of masters that have come through here.  A good portion of those I had already seen since they're part of the Detroit art museum's permenant collection.
01:05 < RangerZ> http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/real-estate/2015/06/developers-aim-to-offer-google-fiber-service-at.html
01:05 < PigBot`> Title: Developers aim to offer Google Fiber service at high-profile office buildings - Nashville Business Journal (at www.bizjournals.com)
01:07 < RangerZ> http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2015/06/front-mission-getting-new-installment-square-enix/ and apparently since Bravely Default, SE has re-learned that they enjoy making games that people want to buy, and give them money for.... in wheel-barrels
01:07 < PigBot`> Title: Front Mission getting new installment from Square Enix (at www.gamerheadlines.com)
01:38 < aestetix> I hate being tired.
01:39  * aestetix drinks more caffeine
01:43 < RangerZ> aestetix: take some aderol
01:43 < RangerZ> helps me
01:43 < RangerZ> i used to take it at midnight to help me get to sleep
01:43 < RangerZ> (I'm not kidding), stating my biochem is 'wonky' is an understatement, lol
01:45 < aestetix> I actually have some provigil
01:48 < RangerZ> no clue
01:48 < RangerZ> lol
01:49 < RangerZ> I don't actually pay attention to drugs/etc
01:52 < aestetix> provigil == modafinil
02:01 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/395u8b/tifu_by_thinking_i_was_allergic_to_black_people/
02:01 < PigBot`> Title: TIFU by thinking I was allergic to black people : tifu (at www.reddit.com)
02:01 < Synx|hm> WHERE THE FUCK IS RECALL EMAIL IN OUTLOOK
02:01 < Synx|hm> FUCK MY LIFE
02:03 < Synx|hm> welp fuck
02:06 < RangerZ> huh?
02:06 < RangerZ> you've been recalled to active duty?
02:07 < RangerZ> do you get to be one of the 500 soilders going to iraq next week?
02:07 < Synx|hm> ha not quite that bad
02:07 < RangerZ> or the 10k next month
02:07 < RangerZ> or the 100k next year
02:08 < Synx|hm> but i just sent a customer an email fully detailing a report from completely differnent customer and partner that happens to detail equipment x customer i didn't mean to involved owns
02:08 < RangerZ> lol
02:08 < RangerZ> thats actually a feature of gmail now
02:08 < RangerZ> you can recall email before its been read
02:10 < Synx|hm> nice
02:10 < Synx|hm> ok im going to bed
02:10 < Synx|hm> g'night
02:11 < aestetix> penis
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08:49 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:54 <@sync350> m0rning
09:00 < RangerZ> sync350: you lost 10 ;)
09:01 < RangerZ> after an upgrade, we'll call you syncOne lol
09:02 <@sync350> lol, I need to step up my 1337 5p33k
09:02 < RangerZ> xbox 360 then xbox One
09:02 < RangerZ> bad joke, lol
09:02 <@sync350> hah
09:02 <@sync350> lol
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09:31 <@jb7od> RangerZ oddball: that actually was some pretty decent cool Ohio facts.
09:32 <@oddball> :)
09:33 <@oddball> Mostly, I bitch about Ohio because I drive through it on the way to Detroit.
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09:34 <@oddball> They tend to have lots of construction going on, and large sections of the interstate is still posted 65.  Oh, and the cops used to be so bad about pulling out of state cars over for speeding (whether they were or not) that AAA used to advise people to avoid the state if possible.
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09:40 <@oddball> Holy shit! Critch posted a picture of him in a suit on Google Plus.
09:45 < jb7od2> I used to work with a guy who wore a neil pert bandanna in homage of neil pert (the drummer from Rush) and I mean *every day* and previous to last night he was all I knew about Ohio that I didn't learn from Neil Young or Modest Mouse. lol
09:47 <@Evilpig> oddball: is he going to court?
09:47 <@Evilpig> did someone die?
09:47 <@oddball> It looks like he's at a conference.
09:48 <@Evilpig> WWDC?
09:48 <@Evilpig> that'd be weird
09:48 <@oddball> No idea
09:49 <@oddball> http://tinyurl.com/onqso7q
09:49 <@Evilpig> that's oddly how I pictured him in my head.
09:50 <@oddball> heh
09:50 <@Evilpig> it's highschool chemistry teacher
09:50 <@oddball> I was going to go with "his parents dressed him."
09:51 <@oddball> Of course... I know his mom, so her making him dress up makes my head hurt.
09:51 <@Evilpig> critch goes to career day
09:51 <@oddball> heh
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12:11 <@jb7od> Spamfilers: What's awesome?
12:12 <@jb7od> Bearing in mind I'm in an exchange environment and we enjoy a blizzard of ~250k transactions daily.
12:38 < Synx|hm> just sent off a really nice classy go fuck yourself email to our landloards mgmt company
12:39 < Synx|hm> fucking cunts
12:47 < Synx|hm> i really hope that doesn't bite me in the ass
12:47 < Synx|hm> but seriously fuck these people
13:20 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm: And how have the landlords offended you?
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14:47 < Synx|hm> Dolemite: not the owners the mgmt company have been nothing but a pain in my ass
14:48 < Synx|hm> they wont answering their phone or respond to voice mails
14:48 < Synx|hm> they wont respond to emails
14:48 < Synx|hm> they are telling me 20% rent increase to go month to month for 2 months is totally normal
14:48 < Synx|hm> and they have not fixed 2 of the issues i reported when i moved in a year ago, and never responded to a 3rd
14:49 < Synx|hm> once i finally move out i plan to email or call the owners and let them know how shitty their mgmt company is
14:51 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: it is 'normal' now
14:51 < RangerZ> after the 2008 crash
14:51 < RangerZ> companies went and bought up all the loose for sale house
14:51 < RangerZ> so now you basically 'have' to rent from a company if you want to rent
14:52 < Synx|hm> a 20% increase puts me well outside of the avg rent per sqfoot in this area
14:52 < Synx|hm> no this house has a private owner who is using this company for his property management
14:52 < Synx|hm> anyways im honestly more pissed this fucking lady refuses to answer her phone or call me back
14:53 < Synx|hm> having to leave a 60day notice on voicemail and email is not the way to do business
14:55 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: my rent was ... 650/mo and it would have gone up to 850/mo on mo/mo basis
14:55 < Synx|hm> ya i get it, but its price gouging and not ethical
14:56 < RangerZ> but I "think" (not positive) the reason they do that here in TN is to bypass ANY/ALL rent freeze laws
14:56 < Synx|hm> tn law states 'reasonable' rent
14:56 < RangerZ> b/c if we got in at 850$ and just 'stayed' I don't think they can raise it
14:56 < RangerZ> no matter how long you stay
14:56 <@Evilpig> sure they can
14:57 < Synx|hm> guess who just called
14:57 <@Evilpig> god knows gazebo raised mine every year when my lease came up for renewal
14:57 <@oddball> ummm... the last apartment I was in kept raising the rent every time I signed a new lease.
14:57 <@oddball> Evilpig: ++
14:57 <@Evilpig> I got to use that same logic to get ashley off my lease.  they tried to tell me that they couldnt' take her off the lease because it was a renewal and everything stayed the same.  so I demanded the rent remain the same too.
14:58 < Synx|hm> takes a nasty email to this lady to get her to call, and oh how nice she sounds on the phone
14:58 <@Evilpig> they gave in and put just me on the lease, duh.
14:58 < RangerZ> oddball: yes, but thats b/c each time you didn't go month to month
14:58 < RangerZ> thats my point
14:58 < RangerZ> if you don't sign the new lease, and just go mo/mo I think it freezes
14:59 < RangerZ> I'm not POSITIVE, but thats the only reason they would offer a discount if you sign another lease
14:59 <@Evilpig> it freezes for 60 days
14:59 <@Evilpig> month to month they can change the price at will with 60 days notice
14:59 < RangerZ> b/c back in ohio, after 12mo lease you auto went to rent frozen rent mo-to-mo
14:59 < RangerZ> ahh
14:59 < RangerZ> then nvm
14:59 < RangerZ> that was just a 'guess'
15:00 < Synx|hm> when i lived in socali they had full blown rentcontrol, so if you moved into a beach apt in the 70's and never left you rent could never go up
15:00 < RangerZ> thats right, I forgot.... the south... 'Fuck regulations to help people'
15:00 < RangerZ> gotta help corps.
15:00 <@Evilpig> corporations are people too
15:00 < RangerZ> ...."my friend"
15:02 < Synx|hm> i really love the "ring ring... hello" and the person you just yelled at via email says "Synx," without intorducing themselves in the most concerned loving im your friend why are you upset way
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15:28 < aestetix> http://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/chaoscologne/1c2/1c2-6761-willkommen_bienvenue_welcome_why_americans_are_moving_to_germany.html#video
15:28 < PigBot`> Title: C3TV - Willkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome: Why Americans are moving to Germany (at media.ccc.de)
15:28 < aestetix> enjoy
15:31 <@Evilpig> if that doesn't have at least one line that mentions scat, i'm calling bullshit
15:31 < aestetix> hahaha
15:38 < [trip]> Oh BizJournal: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/when-good-press-goes-bad-phone-shy-facebook-doxed-tyler-pitchford
15:39 < [trip]> I couldn’t help myself — sorry
16:00 < [trip]> that link sucks
16:00 < [trip]> why do they append my name to the link, looks like FB doxed me, lol
16:01 <@Evilpig> because... ummmm.... lol?
16:03 < aestetix> [trip]: byline?
16:03 < [trip]> When Good Press Goes Bad: Phone-shy Facebook IT doxed by BizJournal
16:04 < [trip]> But yeah, they put it link for some reason — seems lame
16:05 < aestetix> it's probably for SEO
16:09 < Synx|hm> i really want to go for a bike ride this weekend
16:09 < Synx|hm> ugh
16:09 < [trip]> I mean it’s no secret I wrote it, but looks like i put it there. bah
16:10 < Synx|hm> its been a week though since my knee made a funny noise and swole up, and dr wants to do MRI now
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17:20 < Synx|hm> its fucking africa hot in nashville today
17:20 < Synx|hm> my electric bill is going to be insane this month
17:21 <@oddball> I'm showing 86 degrees at the moment.
17:21 <@oddball> Have you been in Nashville long?  It gets a lot hotter than this in the summer.
17:23 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, just wait until it gets hotter...
17:23 < _NSAKEY> And then it rains, and it's semi-ok to be outside while it's raining.
17:23 < _NSAKEY> But once the cloud cover goes away, you won't be able to breathe.
17:27 < Synx|hm> fml
17:28 < Synx|hm> i came from balls louisiana i guess its just this damn house thats hot as hell
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18:08 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: could be, too bad you didn't want the nice apartments I have... where I keep it 69~70 all summer long and never spend more than 150$/mo for electric all summer , yay living in bottom floor, the trick I've found is to keep the central fan on 24/7, b/c while that DOES use electricity, it keeps the air throughout the house evenly temp, and stops 'warmzones'
18:11 < RangerZ> well not 24/7, but when I'm home/active
18:11 < RangerZ> but you get my point
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