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02:43 < RangerZ1> question, is LibreOffice still the choice for OSS office software?
02:43 < RangerZ1> or has OpenOffice started to not suck? etc?
02:46 < RangerZ1> also... FUCK "update" checks that send you to websites to download updates
03:01 <@Dagmar> I haven't bothered to install anything but OpenOffice on my desktop
03:25 < RangerZ1> http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/03/rick-santorum-tells-pope-to-leave-science-to-scientists-forgets-pope-has-masters-in-chemistry/
03:25 < PigBot`> Title: Addicting Info Rick Santorum Tells Pope To Leave Science To Scientists, Forgets Pope Has Masters In Chemistry (at www.addictinginfo.org)
03:25 < RangerZ1> HAHAHAHHAHAHA
03:25 < RangerZ1> Santorum should just crawl back into his lobbest hole, and leave being a politican to adults
03:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah I laughed at that aerlier today when I saw it
03:27 <@Dagmar> If Santorum had a working brain, he'd have encountered that bit about the Pope's history when the Pope first came out and said it's time to stop dicking around about global warming
03:37 <@Dagmar> okay, so apparently Netflix believes in midnight releases
03:37 <@Dagmar> Sense8 is up now
04:12 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: Twice in one week.  Amazing.
04:13 < RangerZ1> ?
04:13 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: I *will* spoiler this.  Martha... with a strapon.
04:13 < RangerZ1> sense8?
04:13 <@Dagmar> Yes.
04:13 < RangerZ1> interesting
04:13 < RangerZ1> I'll watch it later
04:13 < RangerZ1> reading some stuff
04:13 <@Dagmar> The Doctor's companion, Martha
04:13 <@Dagmar> When you see it
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06:31 <@rattle> Uncanny...
06:31 <@rattle> http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/150604/tdy_williams_terror_150604.jpg
06:31 <@rattle> http://www.iywib.com/scumbag_steve_blank.jpg
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08:52 <@rattle> So, I've started up a side business...
08:52 <@rattle> We're going to record video of switches, with cables coming out of them and flashing LEDs and shit..
08:52 <@rattle> Hours of it..
08:53 <@rattle> And we're going to sell it to TV news outlets for usage when they are reporting on cyber security stories.
08:53 <@rattle> There is a huge amount of demand.
08:53 <@rattle> Gonna me a fucking billionaire, and you all get to say you knew me now.
09:05 < RangerZ1> lol
09:05 < RangerZ1> sorry to break it to you... but getty does that already
09:05 < RangerZ1> where do you think they get the same dozen shots from?
09:05 < RangerZ1> hehehe
09:11 < RangerZ1> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-hiring-unemployment-may.html
09:11 < RangerZ1> [U.S. Economy Added 280,000 Jobs in May; Unemployment Rate 5.5%] .... "yeah... right"
09:12 < RangerZ1> I'm actually kinda hopeful that it falls to like 4% and then maybe finally pays will have to rise
09:12 < RangerZ1> but the "underemployment" % is still what ~20% ?
09:14 < RangerZ1> total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers -> 11.6%  http://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm
09:14 < PigBot`> Title: Alternative Measures of Labor Underutilization for States (at www.bls.gov)
09:19 < Synx|hm> ok in other news im about to tell my buyer agent to fuck off today, so we'll see how that goes
09:20 < Synx|hm> guy is impossible to get ahold of, and only available when we are able to see houses about once every 2 weeks, that shit aint not gonna work
09:20 < Synx|hm> good thing i have not signed any paper work with him
09:23 < RangerZ1> IIRC all realators work on a commission only basis, right?
09:24 < RangerZ1> just call all of them, and flood the market with your # ;)
09:24 < RangerZ1> Realator Hungar-Games
09:24 < RangerZ1> ;)
09:26 < Synx|hm> ya but however i believe one of two tricky things can happen, 1 if you sign a buyer agent agreement you are kinda stuck, and 2 i dont think i can go get another agent and make an offer on any of the houses this guy has already shown me, he would then be intitled to a part of the comission
09:26 < Synx|hm> either way, nice guy not trying to f' him over, he is just way too busy
09:32 < RangerZ1> hmm
09:32 < RangerZ1> yeah, that sucks
09:34 < RangerZ1> https://i.imgur.com/bASAAfO.png
09:34 < RangerZ1> I'll just leave that there for you all (SFW)
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09:56 <@oddball> Synx|hm: ouch.  Do you need the name of a new person?  I've got a buddy who's in real estate.
10:00 < Synx|hm> wife has a friend who can dedicate 100% of her time to us
10:00 < Synx|hm> we'll see how that goes
10:01 < Synx|hm> thank you though i will for sure let you know if this doesn't work out
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10:13 <@oddball> cool
10:16 < Synx|hm> can anybody get me a discount on a costco membership? apparantly they have a mortgage department and some of the best rates at this time
10:17 < Synx|hm> now that i read that, its obsurd to worry about what $65-80 bucks over saving much more on a mortgage
10:35 < Synx|hm> damn it is franklin the only freaking costco here?
10:36 < Synx|hm> oh west nashville too
10:37 <@oddball> Yep.  Cool Springs and Nashville West.  I think the next nearest one is Memphis.
10:37 <@oddball> I really wish they would open one on my side of town.  I like them better than Sam's.
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10:39 < Synx|hm> https://store.customusb.com/shop/silicon-valley-pied-piper-earbuds/
10:39 < PigBot`> Title: Silicon Valley Pied Piper Earbuds | CustomUSB Store (at store.customusb.com)
10:39 < Synx|hm> that is my fav show on tv right now too
10:39 < Synx|hm> hilarious
10:48 < Synx|hm> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Sky_Whirl_2.jpg
10:48 < Synx|hm> this picture is my childhood, very strange i feel very connected to that thing
10:49 < Synx|hm> growing up in IL and going to great america often
10:51  * bentheme1 waves
10:52 < bentheme1> ~! Trip is back in tech? Excellent
10:53 < bentheme1> So for the nashville area folks, _NSAKEY is out. Dagmar is in. Oddball? RangerZ?
10:54 < bentheme1> (for tonights gathering)
10:54 <@oddball> Oh, I'm out.  I'm in Detroit, about to drive across state to Grand Rapids for a wedding.
10:54 < bentheme1> oh nice.
10:55 < bentheme1> Getting to wear you kilt?
10:55 < Synx|hm> ill be at the park tonight for the free symphony drop by there after the meeting
10:55 < Synx|hm> going to sling up the hammock and chill with the wife and kiddo
10:55 <@oddball> Nah, left those at home.
10:55 <@oddball> Synx|hm: nice
10:56 < Synx|hm> its at bicentennial tonight at 8pm
10:56 < bentheme1> I was going to see if there was interest for a movie
10:57 < bentheme1> I know elonka has mentioned it but I will influde that information about the symphony on the email I am about to send.
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11:09 <@oddball> Damnit.  I still need to talk to Elonka about getting the projector.
11:10 < bentheme1> Its fine. You just need to get out that way so you can stop by and pick it up
11:11 <@oddball> Right.  That's what I meant.
11:11 <@oddball> I need to talk with her about when's a good time.
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11:25 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I am 100% out for tonight.
11:25 < _NSAKEY> My throat is too raw to say more than a few words at a time.
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11:29 <@oddball> Do like Naienko has done in the past: take a tablet and use that to speak.
11:29 < _NSAKEY> That would be ok if I didn't feel like I was going to pass out while traveling.
11:29 < _NSAKEY> Just going to the store is an effort.
11:30 < _NSAKEY> I can't imagine doing the ~40 one way drive to cool springs.
11:30 <@oddball> oof.  Suck.
11:30 < bentheme1> sudafed
11:30 < bentheme1> the real stuff behind the counter they card you for
11:31 < _NSAKEY> I slept pretty much from 6-7 PM to around the time I started typing in here again.
11:31 < bentheme1> not the fake junk they leave out now that does no better than a placebo
11:31 <@oddball> I do wish we had a better location than the food court at the Cool Springs mall, but I guess desperate times...
11:31 < _NSAKEY> Only got up to blow my nose a few times.
11:31 < _NSAKEY> I wouldn't care if it was being held at the Kroger in La Vergne this month. I still wouldn't go.
11:32 < _NSAKEY> bentheme1: NLUG is next Tuesday, right?
11:34 < bentheme1> Yes, but my participation in the summer months may be slight
11:35 < bentheme1> (I dont know if I am going to be able to attend yet or not)
11:37 <@oddball> Speaking of attending, think you're going to be able to make it to Hypericon? :p
11:38 <@Mirage> lol... http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/
11:38 < PigBot`> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del - The spark (2015-06-05) (at www.cad-comic.com)
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11:45 < Synx|hm> getting old sucks ass
11:45 < Synx|hm> just got a call from my aunt that our great aunt just passed
11:45 < Synx|hm> not unexpected but its been a really hard hard few years for my grandpa
11:45 <@oddball> bah,sorry to hear that.
11:46 <@Mirage> Synx|hm: define "old"
11:46 < Synx|hm> he lost a sun at 7, lost his daughter when she was 41 (my mom), lost his wife two years ago, and has been shedding brothers and sisters (of 13 he had) every year
11:47 < Synx|hm> old enough to start worrying about parents etc
11:47 < Synx|hm> loosing two children is too much, at least it would be for me
11:47 <@Mirage> so 3-4?
11:48 < Synx|hm> ha
11:48 <@oddball> oof
11:48 < Synx|hm> my work exchange mailbox is now 5633MB
11:48 < Synx|hm> hahaha
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11:50 < RangerZ> umm....
11:51 < RangerZ> Mission statement of nashvill2600: To act as a support group to the Middle Tennessee community of intellectuallycurious persons without regard to race, gender, age, economic status or sexual preference.....
11:51 < RangerZ> .... Support will come in the form of personal networking at monthly meetings and a formal educational conference held each year, known as PhreakNIC.
11:51 < RangerZ> Intellectually curious?
11:51 < RangerZ> interesting phrasing
11:52 <@Mirage> Need to throw something in there about being a local chapter of the "National Sarcasm Society"
11:53 <@Mirage> Possibly also the "Ministry of Silly Walks", and "Society for stacking things on top of other things".
11:53 < bentheme1> Heh, well it has stood for a long time since the org was created I think and so we are looking at it to see if it needs a little sprucing up
11:54 <@Mirage> oops s/stacking/putting... "Society for Putting Things on top of Other Things".
11:54 < bentheme1> I think we want to drop the words support group
11:54 < bentheme1> sounds to AA
11:54 <@Evilpig> I think you guys are treating the org as something more than a support construct for the con because you're retarded
11:55 < bentheme1> Do you mean the current wording? That is from like 2007 I think
11:55 <@Evilpig> I mean everything that's happened the last year or so
11:56 < RangerZ> I meant the phrasing yes, it seemed odd, but w/e
11:56 < bentheme1> Trying to run things like a business. It really is all about the putting the con on
11:56 < RangerZ> also, I don't see a list of changes to the bylaws being voted upon
11:57 < bentheme1> I am linking to the new bylaws there
11:57 < RangerZ> aka, I don't see a DIFF (or other marked up )
11:57 < bentheme1> if you want to compare the old I can give you a link to those but there are a heck of a lot of changes
11:57 < RangerZ> ummm yes
11:57 < bentheme1> too many to diff really
11:57 < RangerZ> I noticed the board members not missing board meetings was removed, etc.
11:59 < bentheme1> http://bit.ly/SE2600
11:59 < PigBot`> Title: SE2600 (at bit.ly)
11:59 < Synx|hm> what am i missing here about xbox and windows 10
12:00 < Synx|hm> is the next xbox going to just be a pc running windows?
12:00 < Synx|hm> or is there not going to be a new xbox and you just run xbox on your pc?
12:00 < bentheme1> the official is the new the board came up with. The old is the CURRENT on that link
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12:03 <@oddball> Synx|hm: The new Xbox is skynet. :p
12:03 < bentheme1> Will you be making it tonight RangerZ?
12:04 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: not anymore, they got lambasted when they tried it
12:04 < RangerZ> bentheme1: will be trying, will have to see
12:04 < Synx|hm> http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/05/microsoft-confirms-users-can-perform-a-clean-installation-if-upgrading-to-windows-10
12:04 < RangerZ> might be going out of state quickly, depends
12:04 < PigBot`> Title: Microsoft Confirms Users Can Perform a Clean Installation If Upgrading to Windows 10 - IGN (at www.ign.com)
12:05 < Synx|hm> last half of this says xbox windows 10 pc
12:05 < Synx|hm> im so confused
12:05 < RangerZ> windows 10 is going to have "xbox" integration support built in
12:05 < Synx|hm> are these the same versions of the game or different versions for each platform
12:05 < RangerZ> meaning you can play your xbox one games on the PC
12:05 < RangerZ> and eventually vice versa
12:05 < Synx|hm> same media/code/experience?
12:05 <@oddball> Ah, right.  I remember hearing about that.
12:05 < RangerZ> Via in-home streaming
12:05 < Synx|hm> oh thats the key
12:06 < RangerZ> you STILL have to buy an xbox one
12:06 < Synx|hm> so what ever device you purchased the game for has to network stream it to the other?
12:06 < Synx|hm> oh
12:06 <@oddball> Hmmm... I might do a clean install on this laptop.  I think it's clean, but...
12:06 < Synx|hm> that reads like you have to do an upgrade to unlock the ability to do a clean install
12:06 < Synx|hm> honestly im just really pissed they canned WMC
12:07 < _NSAKEY> bentheme1: Well, I'm scheduled to talk about XMPP at the next NLUG, if that sways you in either direction.
12:08 <@oddball> Synx|hm: Yeah.  WMC wasn't too bad, and XBOX media player is full of suck and fail.
12:09 < Synx|hm> WMC is in need of some work with integration for like netflix but other than that its been solid as a DVR using cablecard network streamer
12:09 < Synx|hm> the windows 8.1 netflix is cool but its near impossible to use at 1080p too small
12:09 < Synx|hm> and i still cant get rid of the hbogo video shudder on my htpc :(
12:14 < Synx|hm> so it looks like the only cablecard protected contect (play-once) option will be silicon dusts soon to release hdhomerun DVR software
12:15 < Synx|hm> but the channel interface looks cludgy for sure
12:18 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: windows media center is not going to be in win 10
12:19 < RangerZ> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/204903-microsoft-kills-off-windows-media-center-for-windows-10
12:19 < PigBot`> Title: Microsoft kills off Windows Media Center for Windows 10 | ExtremeTech (at www.extremetech.com)
12:20 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: for netflix, I say anything other than a desktop client
12:20 < RangerZ> roku, ps3, ps4, etc
12:43 < Synx|hm> i dont want to have to use different devices for different streaming services, i have an intel nuc at the tv should be able to do it all imho
12:43 < Synx|hm> iirc the windows 8 tile app does 4K streaming so its not the quality of the video that is the issue, just the interface being hard to navigate even on a 65in dlp
12:44 < Synx|hm> the plex interface is great though
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13:17 < aestetix> How shitty is having a credit score of 500?
13:19 <@SuMo_D> aestetix sounds shitty
13:29 < Synx|hm> which agenceny
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13:37 < Synx|hm> https://www.experian.com/credit-education/what-is-a-good-credit-score.html
13:37 < PigBot`> Title: What is a Good Credit Score? Find out at Experian.com (at www.experian.com)
14:05 < _NSAKEY> This sounds hilarious: https://www.blackhat.com/us-15/briefings.html#the-memory-sinkhole-unleashing-an-x86-design-flaw-allowing-universal-privilege-escalation
14:05 < PigBot`> Title: Black Hat USA 2015 | Briefings (at www.blackhat.com)
14:05 < _NSAKEY> Let's hope it's not just a bunch of hype.
14:20 < Synx|hm> for who's sake?
14:20 < Synx|hm> ha
14:20 < Synx|hm> that sounds like something not so easy to fix
14:23 < Synx|hm> also what the hell are the negative rings? is ring 0 not kernel full hardware access?
14:23 < aestetix> I actually do hope it's a lot of hype.
14:23 < aestetix> Because if it's not.... cloud computing is fucked.
14:23 < Synx|hm> i guess ring -1 is for virtualized non impacting ring 0 access
14:30 < Synx|hm> or i should say the hypervisor runs at -1 and guest os then has access to 0?
14:31 < Synx|hm> aren't there already proven timing attacks where by simply watching cpu load cycles from within a vm you can deduce cryptographic functions and in turn their private keys?
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14:38 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Admit it, if it's true, then it's hilarious.
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14:53 <@Catonic> yay!
14:54 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Have you seen Sens8 yet?
15:26 < Synx|hm> damn it
15:26 < Synx|hm> how the f can i figure out who services an address for telecom/cable?
15:34 < Synx|hm> f'ing united communications says they dont, but broadband.gov says they do
15:34 < Synx|hm> and att also on broadband.gov also says they dont
15:34 < Synx|hm> wtf
15:34 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: You can't even trust the websites.
15:35 < _NSAKEY> Some guy made the news a couple months back because he bought a house based on the fact that Comcast services it, according to their website.
15:35 < Synx|hm> united communications website addr lookup doesn't even work but i called and they said no
15:35 < _NSAKEY> Yet, he couldn't get service there because comcast said they didn't cover the area.
15:35 < Synx|hm> jesus
15:35 <@Dagmar> Basically, you call to set up an install and find out
15:35 < _NSAKEY> So, the guy had to sell the house, since broadband was essential for work in his case.
15:35 < Synx|hm> ya i work from home
15:36 < Synx|hm> hence why im trying to figure it out on a house we are looking at
15:36 < _NSAKEY> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/03/new-homeowner-selling-house-because-he-cant-get-comcast-internet/
15:36 < PigBot`> Title: New homeowner selling house because he can’t get Comcast Internet | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
15:36 < Synx|hm> its 2015 there should be one fucking site with an interface like googlemaps that shows me who services what and what type of connection
15:42 <@sasquatc4> i swear the guy i share an office with is slowly deteriorating, over the past 6mo he went from fairly normal to now constantly tapping on everything, just loud shuffling, eating everything with his mouth open so loud i can hear it on the other side
15:43 <@sasquatc4> constant throat clearing and coughing
15:43 < _NSAKEY> sasquatc4: Sounds like a good candidate for an Annoy-o-tron, or whatever it's called.
15:44 <@sasquatc4> hah yea
15:52 <@Evilpig> june 19 roof party
15:56 <@Dagmar> Oh hell
15:57 <@Dagmar> Where are we having the 2600 meetings in Nashville now?
15:57 <@Evilpig> not in nashville
15:57 <@Evilpig> Cool Springs Galleria Food Court
15:57 <@Dagmar> Got it
15:58 <@Evilpig> https://www.google.com/maps/place/CoolSprings+Galleria/@36.0454548,-86.7923454,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x88647956dd05bb5f:0x76ce53b1744e0560
15:58 < PigBot`> Title: Google Maps (at www.google.com)
15:59 <@Dagmar> Yeah I've been there before.  I just couldn't remember which mall it was in
15:59 <@Evilpig> I don't think it was thought out well that all the folks from nashville will be going down 65 during rush hour
16:00 <@Evilpig> traveling into the city at that time isn't usually horrible.  out of the city will be fantastic for me
16:02 <@Dagmar> Are you in Nashville today or something?
16:02 <@Evilpig> Nope
16:03 <@Evilpig> it's fantastic for me, cause I won't be driving in it but i'll get to hear the bitching later
16:12 <@Dagmar> Well, JJ's is going away, and that was driving into a clusterfuck coming and going
16:15 <@Evilpig> it wasn't bad driving into there
16:15 <@Evilpig> a few blocks of clusterfuck wasn't miles of stupids on I65
16:16 <@Dagmar> I do like how aware they are of cultural differences in this show
16:16 <@Dagmar> A black man in Korea?  LOL
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16:34 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Over my Sbarro in the food court.
16:34 <@Dagmar> Yes, I'm aware
16:35 < _NSAKEY> According to the map, the food court entrance is between Belk and H&M.
16:36 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I agree regarding J&J's. The interstate got slightly bad going in towards the end, but going out was always smooth sailing for me.
16:36 < _NSAKEY> But 65 South into Brentwood/Cool Springs on a friday afternoon is a big ask.
16:37 < _NSAKEY> I'd have to cut through the country to avoid that nightmare, and have done just that both the times I went to board meetings.
16:37 <@Dagmar> Well, the good news is that since all the rich fuckers live in brentwood, I-65 will be the _least_ congested of all the interstate routes
16:37 <@Dagmar> There's a massive number of lanes going all the way down there
16:37 < _NSAKEY> I e-mailed Elonka to ask her about NashSec's spot.
16:38 < _NSAKEY> They meet at some bar in midtown every third thursday.
16:38 < _NSAKEY> One of the people who goes to those meetings told me about the parking situation, and it sounds ideal.
16:38 < _NSAKEY> The only "downside" is that no one under 21 is allowed, but really, when was the last time Nashville 2600 pulled someone in who wasn't old enough to drink?
16:39 <@Evilpig> used to do it alot
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17:46 < RangerZ> so where is the meeting today?
17:46 < RangerZ> mall down near franklin i know that
17:46 < RangerZ> but whats the 'actual' name?
17:46 < RangerZ> CoolSprings Mall?
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17:59 < RangerZ> ohh not bad, the drive time from work is reasonable, last week was a joke from home, lol
18:07 <@Dagmar> "Ok Google, Navigate to Cool Springs Mall"
18:07 <@Dagmar> Done.
18:15 < RangerZ> thats the thing
18:15 < RangerZ> I couldn't remember the name
18:24 <@Dagmar> You only have to get _close_ to the correct name actually.
18:24 <@Dagmar> If it _sounds_ right, Google can figure it out
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19:50 <@sasquatc4> ugh, thank god my managers dont give a shit about our asinine coding standard, had some director review part of a big re-write im doin, all it was was coding standards issues since we dont abide by the "no goto's and only a single return" methodology cause its fuckin retarded
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23:09 <@RangerZ> oddball: so not going to Ohio _this_ weekend :/
23:09 <@RangerZ> but in good news http://wkrn.com/2015/06/05/early-work-on-google-fiber-begins-in-nashville/
23:09 < PigBot`> Title: Early work on Google Fiber begins in Nashville | WKRN News 2 (at wkrn.com)
23:10 <@oddball> yay! (for the second thing)
23:10 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: How was the meeting?
23:11 <@RangerZ> alright
23:11 <@RangerZ> nothing important except entirely new bylaws
23:11 < _NSAKEY> Anything terrible in them?
23:14 <@RangerZ> lack of foresight
23:15 <@RangerZ> but honestly it was an _entirely_ new set of bylaws
23:15 <@oddball> That makes me... nervous.
23:16 <@RangerZ> I abstained from voting, and everyone thought it was fucking insane "omg, he's read roberts rules of order"
23:16 <@RangerZ> lol
23:16 < _NSAKEY> I got some clarification about removing board members at the last board meeting I attended.
23:16 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Did they do anon voting, or make everyone declare their stance>
23:16 < _NSAKEY> *?
23:16 <@RangerZ> voice
23:16 < _NSAKEY> They seem to want to do away with anonymous voting.
23:17 <@RangerZ> it takes time
23:17 < _NSAKEY> Anyway, the thing I made them clarify was removing board members.
23:17 < _NSAKEY> 2/3 of the entire membership has to vote for it.
23:17 < _NSAKEY> If there are 15 people total and only 9 show up, the board member still can't be removed.
23:18 <@RangerZ> nope
23:18 <@RangerZ> I brought that up
23:18 <@RangerZ> now its 1/3 of total membership
23:18 < _NSAKEY> Unless they changed it, that was the case when I asked about it.
23:18 < _NSAKEY> Oh, ok.
23:18 <@RangerZ> including board members
23:18 < _NSAKEY> It was 2/3 about a month ago.
23:18 <@RangerZ> ....which I thought was fucking stupid.... and brought up, but apparently some/(all?) board memebers thought I was aiming it at them
23:19 <@RangerZ> my point was that if board members need the vote of 'general members' then they shouldn't get to vote twice
23:19 < _NSAKEY> I made sure to use Alice and Bob when asking about it.
23:19 <@RangerZ> yeah, apparently I'm going to have to do that, b/c costructs without examples don't seem to go well
23:20 < _NSAKEY> Is this what they showed off? https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_9KJUhBP8CBY1Jfb1hGa3hFZnM&usp=sharing
23:20 < PigBot`> Title: SE2600 (at drive.google.com)
23:20 < _NSAKEY> It says 2/3.
23:21 <@RangerZ> honestly I don't remember offhand I think so
23:21 <@RangerZ> we tabled my discussion until I could do a writeup about it, b/c they didn't seem to get what I was saying
23:21 <@RangerZ> which is why I abstained
23:24 <@RangerZ> oddball: good news about google fiber
23:25 <@RangerZ> we'll get it in the entire inner loop
23:25 <@RangerZ> and then out west
23:25 <@RangerZ> south of 40
23:25 <@RangerZ> and then south, west of 65
23:26 <@oddball> So... it's going to take a loong ass time, if ever, to get to me
23:27 <@RangerZ> huh? what? are those descriptions I made up to explicity exclude you ??
23:27 <@RangerZ> and Dagmar
23:27 <@RangerZ> lol
23:27 <@oddball> actually, that might include Dagmar
23:27 <@RangerZ> nope
23:27 <@RangerZ> I looked on the map ;)
23:28 <@oddball> there was a map?
23:28 <@RangerZ> no
23:28 <@RangerZ> I'm just very good with maps
23:28 <@RangerZ> and looked for dagmars
23:28 <@RangerZ> lol
23:28 <@oddball> Dagmar is on the west side of town south of 40
23:28 <@RangerZ> if he was here, I was going to tell him it was going to end ~1000ft form his apt
23:28 <@RangerZ> lol
23:28 <@RangerZ> North
23:28 <@oddball> ah.
23:29 <@oddball> I could have sworn he was just south.
23:35 <@RangerZ> ohh he's south of 'some' of 40
23:36 <@RangerZ> b/c FUCK STRAIGHT LINES
23:42 <@oddball> Specifically, thr part nearest him?
23:42 <@oddball> and... well... welcome to Nashville.
23:42 < _NSAKEY> A lot of the bigger roads around here started out as animal trails.
23:42 < _NSAKEY> Dickerson Road is a fine example of that.
23:43 < _NSAKEY> It was a buffalo trail.
23:43 <@RangerZ> yes, lets not imporove upon dirt paths
23:43 < _NSAKEY> I'm not defending the practice.
23:44 <@RangerZ> and heck... those might have less pothols for a state this far south
23:44 < _NSAKEY> It amounts to, "Let's be lazy."
23:44 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Part of the pothole problem is because these assholes won't just concrete it.
23:44 <@RangerZ> can't
23:44 <@RangerZ> concrete is too brittle
23:44 < _NSAKEY> They keep insisting on using inferior paving methods, probably because it pays more.
23:44 < _NSAKEY> They're concreting part of 65.
23:45 <@RangerZ> (under fluctuating loads, like heavy trucks )
23:45 <@RangerZ> ohh really?
23:45 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, you haven't noticed that?
23:45 <@RangerZ> must not be the old concrete
23:45 <@RangerZ> nope
23:45 <@RangerZ> I drive it daily, haven't paid attention
23:45 <@RangerZ> LOL
23:45 < _NSAKEY> Look in the areas where the construction is taking place.
23:46 < _NSAKEY> You'll probably notice it isn't the usual asphault that needs to be replaced biannually.
23:46 <@RangerZ> now that I think about it, I guess it is
23:46 <@RangerZ> concrete had bad stress load characteristics in late 90s or so, when my grandfather was telling me about it
23:47 <@RangerZ> plus WAYYYY too expensive
23:47 <@RangerZ> but hell, apparently concrete is one of the most CO2 intensive things we do as a society
23:50 <@oddball> In fairness, this year's  winter was especially bad on the roads.
23:56 <@RangerZ> yeah, but the problem of 1) too few lanes for 2) too many cars 3) having to cross 3 lanes of traffic to make the exist they need in under 30seconds 4) whatever... I'm sure there are more
23:56 <@RangerZ> ohh
23:56 <@RangerZ> southerners
23:59 <@RangerZ> alright....
23:59 <@RangerZ> is this an onion article?
23:59 <@Evilpig> shush, yankee scum
23:59 <@RangerZ> [Jessa Seewald and Jill Dillard say their parents used "safeguards" to protect them from their brother, Josh Duggar, after he molested them as well as two of their sisters when they were young. ]
23:59 <@RangerZ> "locks on the doors"
23:59 <@RangerZ> http://www.people.com/article/jill-duggar-jessa-duggar-josh-duggar-molestation-locks-doors
23:59 < PigBot`> Title: Josh Duggar Molestation Scandal: Jill and Jessa Duggar Say Parents Locked Doors : People.com (at www.people.com)
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