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00:05 < RangerZ> ok.... I think i've had enough Internet today.... https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HOLDACOKEWITHYOURBOOBSCHALLENGE
00:05 < PigBot`> Title: #HOLDACOKEWITHYOURBOOBSCHALLENGE - Twitter Search (at twitter.com)
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01:52 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: This is for you http://culturalmarxism.net/the-new-my-little-pony-inflatable-sex-doll-hit-the-shelves/
02:17 < RangerZ> Shadow404: you live near/in atlanta right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387f6SrJ1f0
02:18 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387f6SrJ1f0
02:18 < RangerZ> [Mysterious Piles Of Poop Prompted Employer To Mandate DNA Testing]
02:18 < RangerZ> lol
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07:09 < aestetix> jesus
07:09 < aestetix> how do women take so long to get ready to do anything
07:11 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: This one's for you: https://www.whonix.org/blog/giving-up-pseudonymity-after-collecting-experiences-with-pseudonymous-project-development
07:11 < PigBot`> Title: giving up pseudonymity after collecting experiences with pseudonymous project development - Whonix (at www.whonix.org)
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08:12 < RangerZ> Evilpig: http://www.play-asia.com/powersaves-for-amiibo-characters/13/708qzp so someone figured out how to write to amiibo, and is selling a little station to write to them with made up/(more likely copied) save data, lol
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08:53 < RangerZ> rattle: I want tor/irregular/rattle ;) lol
08:54 < RangerZ> ...nvm... I just found that idea amusing for some reason, lol
08:54 < RangerZ> heheh
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08:54 < Synx|hm> need some life advice
08:54 < RangerZ> don't trust women
08:54 < RangerZ> don't trust men
08:54 < Synx|hm> father in-law has pulled a doozie and im about to lose my shit
08:54 < RangerZ> ohh, legit
08:54 < RangerZ> ok?
08:55 < Synx|hm> we were in mexico last week on the beech with mother in law who i like
08:55 <@rattle> Can't be worse than my relationship with my father-in-law.  I'm guessing you speak the same language and can do something other than shoot each other weird glares.
08:55 < Synx|hm> father in law sends my wife a text sunday with a picture of her from the beach telling her she is fat and needs to stop eating so damn much
08:56 < Synx|hm> actaully we dont speak the same language he speaks spanish and not much english, and i dont talk to him when we go over to their place because he hides in his bedroom all day
08:56 < Synx|hm> i try to be on good terms with him, but this one has got me very upset
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08:56 < Synx|hm> what kind of prick father sends that to his grown ass daughter, and my wife is in fine shape
08:56 <@rattle> Yeah, you're justified in thinking that's super fucked up.
08:56 < RangerZ> yep
08:57 < RangerZ> thats a-not-ok
08:57 < Synx|hm> the question is do i engage him on it
08:57 <@rattle>  How is your wife reacting?
08:57 < Synx|hm> i dont want to make it any worse for the wife
08:57 < RangerZ> I wouldn't engage him about it (mainly b/c of language)
08:57 < Synx|hm> she was visibly upset but indicates its normal behaviour
08:57 < RangerZ> I'd talk to her about it, and "find out what she wants you to do about it"
08:58 <@rattle> The way your wife is reacting to it, and what her reaction would be if you engaged him is the thing that should guide you.  I think your range of options is between giving her emotional support and beating the shit out of your father-in-law.  Wide range.
08:58 < Synx|hm> he understand english well enough to understand "go fuck your self you inconsiderate non supportive asshole, and dont ever call me or your daughter again"
08:58 < RangerZ> hmm.... I dunno... I'd maybe try talking to the mother-in-law ?
08:58 <@rattle> Do you have something he cares about you can cut off his access to?  Like kids?
08:58 < Synx|hm> rattle: ya solid advice thank you!
08:59 < Synx|hm> not really
08:59 < Synx|hm> they live 10 hours away in dallas
08:59 < Synx|hm> and he really isn't social at all, he really is a grade a asshole
08:59 <@rattle> I'd suggest err'ing on the side of caution, and focus on giving your wife emotional support.
09:00 < Synx|hm> reason we took my wifes mom to mexico... she had planned a trip with him last year tickets everything flights etc, they showed up at the airport and his passport had been expired for a year so they just turned around and went home with no refund
09:00 < RangerZ> I'd most likely just go the "supportive" route then at first if nothing else, and most likely thats all thats needed, and let her know "you support her, in what she decides to do"
09:00 < Synx|hm> ya
09:03 < RangerZ> b/c you don't want the wife to think you are 'going too far', etc etc etc
09:04 < Synx|hm> ya
09:04 < Synx|hm> ill talk to her more about it tonight
09:04 < RangerZ> if SHE says "release the hounds", then you can have fun
09:04 < RangerZ> lol
09:04 < Synx|hm> sweet
09:05 < Synx|hm> one key note her dad is from juarez and has a moustache like danny trejo
09:05 < Synx|hm> so its possible he could just appear 10 hours later her and murder me in my sleep
09:05 < Synx|hm> here
09:05 < RangerZ> then you should call him from rattle's office
09:06 < RangerZ> obviously
09:06 <@rattle> Sure, I'm all for that.
09:06 < RangerZ> 1) in boston
09:06 < RangerZ> 2) boston needs some more police shoot outs...
09:06  * RangerZ gallows humor 
09:06 <@rattle> I think we're ok there.
09:07 <@rattle> I mean, not Baltimore level ok..  But I think we've got that one covered.
09:07 < RangerZ> ohh FYI... explaining gallows humor to indian imports.... interesting
09:08 < RangerZ> I'd make jokes about us not passing our prelims, and they thought I was curing them/myself
09:13 < Synx|hm> how is east of bell road by the lake?
09:13 < Synx|hm> that still antioch?
09:14 < RangerZ> 'how is it' in what sense? ghetto-ish?
09:15 < RangerZ> http://spotcrime.com/tn/nashville
09:15 < PigBot`> Title: Nashville, TN Crime Map - Showing Crimes in Nashville (at spotcrime.com)
09:15 < RangerZ> not that its 'the best' tool out there, but its fairly representative
09:16 < Synx|hm> ya, there are some nice houses right off the lake and i love that area so much recreation to do
09:17 < Synx|hm> i really like hermitage too
09:18 < RangerZ> Madison isn't bad if you don't care about schools
09:18 < RangerZ> the top end of east nashville (where I'm at) has some really nice neighboorhoods hidden between all the highways/etc
09:18 < Synx|hm> ya schools is really important to us though
09:18 < RangerZ> Franklin is where a lot of the profs live
09:18 < RangerZ> like _MOST_
09:19 < Synx|hm> ya um cant afford franklin apartment let alone a house, brentwood and franklin is out
09:19 < RangerZ> brentwood, green hills, belle meade
09:20 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: PM
09:22 <@Evilpig> alright this is a stretch and I realize just how crazy this is gonna sound.... but...
09:23 <@Evilpig> has anyone ever heard of the /sbin/reboot causing bios corruption?
09:23 <@oddball> If Brentwood and Franklin are out do to price, I'm pretty sure Green Hills and Belle Meade are too.
09:23 <@Evilpig> Looking over the scripting these guys have, they have one module just calling /sbin/reboot then another about a second later calling /sbin/reboot -nf which shouldn't matter but ...  could it?
09:24 <@Dagmar> It should not cause BIOS corruption.  That's silly
09:24 <@Dagmar> You can't exactly get some race condition out of rebooting twice simultaneously
09:25 <@Evilpig> I said it was gonna sound crazy
09:25 <@Dagmar> ...although you might question the sanity of calling /sbin/reboot twice
09:26 <@Dagmar> There's probably something wrong with the hardware itself
09:26 <@Evilpig> I refuse to believe that
09:26 <@Dagmar> Well, -nf is also insane
09:26 <@Evilpig> it's happening randomly to all of our R720 servers
09:26 <@Dagmar> Why would you *want* to lose disk data?
09:26 <@Evilpig> temporary environment
09:26 <@Dagmar> Ah
09:27 <@Dagmar> It could be that the usual last-minute push of system clock time to the hardware clock is getting interrupted
09:27 <@Evilpig> that's a theory
09:28 <@Dagmar> It's the only part of the reboot process that should be interacting with BIOS at all
09:29 <@Evilpig> that is a decent theory.  Just trying to figure out how to replicate
09:29 < RangerZ> they got any other 'race condition' type calls going on at the same time? that might be messing up NICs some how if they boot via network?
09:29 <@Evilpig> right now i'm gonna tell these clowns to get rid of the double reboot and jsut let it go without the -nf
09:29 < RangerZ> again NIC config/etc shouldn't 'happen' that way
09:30 <@Dagmar> It's a start
09:30 <@Dagmar> Anyway, reboot just calls shutdown _normally_
09:30 < RangerZ> Dagmar: 9$ computer CHIP, can play quake 3's OSS port https://vimeo.com/129750303
09:31 <@Evilpig> we know this to only happen during provisioning prep and that is the only time this reboot is called twice
09:31 <@Evilpig> the only thing different about an intake and a provisioning prep is setting a flag in the inventory system and calling reboot
09:33 < RangerZ> check to see if the HDD is 'actually' having cache flushed/etc ?
09:33 < RangerZ> and not losing a couple key bits somewhere?
09:33 <@Evilpig> the hdd isn't involved 
09:34 <@Evilpig> it's a ram disk that runs a temporary environment
09:34 < RangerZ> ahh, yeah...
09:34 < RangerZ> gremlins?
09:34 < RangerZ> lol
09:35 <@Dagmar> The only thing I can figure is that the runlevel is getting slapped around while hwclock is being invoked
09:43 <@Evilpig> it sounds crazy but also makes sense
09:44 <@Evilpig> i'm putting it in the category of "plausible"
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10:09 <@Dagmar> That's the only point at which the init scripts interact with BIOS
10:10 <@Dagmar> One of the very last things it does before going to poweroff/reboot is to push the software clock time back into the hardware clock
10:10 <@Dagmar> ...and optionally set the wakeup clock (which has to happen AFTER the time is updated, becuase doing so resets the wakeup clock)
10:10 < Synx|hm> anybody had to drill a hole into a thermafoil wrapped cabnet or drawer face?
10:11 <@Dagmar> You can't find a drill bit that's not made of sharp cheddar?
10:14 <@Dagmar> Just as long as you don't fuck it up and drill in the wwrong place you'll be fine
10:14 < Synx|hm> k
10:14 < Synx|hm> just dont want to blow out the foil
10:14 <@Dagmar> It's plastic
10:14 < Synx|hm> oh
10:15 <@Dagmar> It's basically something akin to shrink-wrap that's heat-glued onto chip board
10:16 < Synx|hm> ahh, ya i had to buy a new draw front as the previous one met an untimly demise and i hadn't realized i couldn't just fill and paint it
10:32 <@Evilpig> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/tumblr-gif-search/
10:32 < PigBot`> Title: Tumblr Finally Gives You the Power to Search for GIFs
 | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
10:34 <@Evilpig> https://blog.plex.tv/2015/06/04/its-not-easy-being-green-secure-communication-arrives/
10:34 < PigBot`> Title: Its not easy being green: Secure communication arrives! - Plex Blog : Plex Blog (at blog.plex.tv)
10:45 < aestetix> http://2016.republican-candidates.org/#Declared-Republican-Candidates
10:59 < Synx|hm> umm property mgr just said "but we informed you of the intent to have you sign a lease, so that clause about just going month to month at reasonable rate does not apply"
10:59 < Synx|hm> what... the... fuck...
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11:30 <@Dagmar> Is that _written_ into the lease?
11:30 < Synx|hm> the actual lease doesn't say anything about how it terminates
11:31 <@Dagmar> Unless it's written into the lease, they can _say_ it all they want, but what they say doesn't exclude them from abiding by the terms of the lease agreement
11:31 <@rhia> so, not in writing?
11:31 < Synx|hm> no, basically she is implying they can drastly increase the rent going month to month, however the law specifically states reasonable rate
11:31 < Synx|hm> so we'll see what they come back with
11:31 <@Dagmar> They might as well be saying "Well, we _said_ you should pay $4,000/month now for rent, so that clause about the rent being $800/month doesn't apply"
11:32 <@Dagmar> Right, so they're trying to bully you into signing a new lease for a few months, because "reasonable rate" is something that a lawyer will have to sort out
11:32 < Synx|hm> yup
11:32 <@Dagmar> "drastically increase" is also weasely.
11:33 <@Dagmar> Make them cite a figure.
11:33 <@Dagmar> Is this Morris Property Management, perhaps?
11:33 < Synx|hm> my lease does say i am required to pay all legal fees btw if they go to court
11:33 < Synx|hm> tandem realty
11:33 < Synx|hm> they are contacting the owner now
11:34 <@Dagmar> Synx|hm: There's nothing in it that says you can't sue them for legal fees incurred and use that money to pay their legal fees
11:34 < Synx|hm> lol good point, i really dont want this to turn into a legal battle, i just want to pay a fair rent for 2-4 months while i find a house
11:35 < Synx|hm> i told her i acknowldeged the 60 day notice requirement so its basically 2 months to 2 months
11:35 < Synx|hm> im not looking for a fight, just wish the desk person would realize im a honest person not trying to f them over
11:35 < Synx|hm> they are a big company i think so they probably deal with dicks all day not paying rent
11:35 <@Dagmar> Pretty much
11:36 <@Dagmar> WIth the 60-day clause in place, clearly they've "budgeted" for a 60 day period to get a new renter in after the lease expires
11:40 <@Dagmar> The other "oops" about that "you must pay our legal fees" thing is that if they incur a violation of law that specifically says the tenant may recover legal fees, that contract clause will be voided
11:40 < Synx|hm> ahh
11:41 < Synx|hm> how the f do you guys know all this shit
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11:42 <@Dagmar> We've lived in a lot of different apartments and apartment managers tend to be dicks
11:42 < [trip]> server monitoring standards anymore? nagios, ichinga? specifically the server and java services.
11:43 <@Dagmar> Sync: Mind you that if the increase they're talking about is more than 5-10%, it's likely to fail the reasonableness tenet
11:44 < Synx|hm> ya
11:44 <@Dagmar> A lawyer would certainly be able to define it
11:44 < Synx|hm> for a small fee i am sure
11:44 <@Dagmar> Late fees in TN are restricted by "reasonableness"
11:44 <@Dagmar> ...which they assign a fixed percentage to.
11:44 <@Dagmar> Otehrwise, you wind up in the situation I had with one place where late fees per day essentially doubled the rent
11:45 <@Dagmar> They calmed down a bit after I'd paid that two months running and I pointed out it was illegal
11:45  * [trip] is a lawyer
11:46 < [trip]> not in TN
11:46 <@Dagmar> Trip: Not that I was ignoring you, but "standards" for server monitoring don't really exist per-se
11:46 <@Dagmar> You have to make them up based on your requirements for availability
11:46 <@Dagmar> (and latency, etc etc)
11:46 < Synx|hm> [trip]: ya i ment to ask yesterday, are you practicing or do you do tech work for moneys?
11:46 < [trip]> back in tech
11:47 < Synx|hm> ahh cool
11:47 < [trip]> but a lawyer never stops, just dies
11:47 < [trip]> so i still do GC work here in Georgia for the company I’m at and handle a few cases in FL still. Just argued at the Florida Supreme Court actually lool
11:47 <@Mirage> [trip]: the standard is: whichever method or tool performs up to the level required by your organization.
11:47 <@Dagmar> I'm not seeing anything in the Uniform whatsis act that defines "reasonable rate" but I could be overlooking it
11:47 <@Dagmar> There's an entire section of the TCA devoted to this
11:47 <@Dagmar> It's not impossible to read
11:48 <@Dagmar> Mitchie has free access to the TCA
11:48 <@Dagmar> http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/
11:48 < PigBot`> Title: LexisNexis Custom Solution: Tennessee Code Research Tool (at www.lexisnexis.com)
11:49 < [trip]> Mirage: yeah, moving specs there, lol
11:49 <@Dagmar> Just don't expect any bookmarks to work for the site, because they're some of those assholes who have decided they have a copyright on the law or something, and when they got smacked for that they made their website aggressively hostile towards common use
11:50 <@Dagmar> You're looking for 66-28, "Uniform Residential Landlord and Tenant Act"
11:51 < Synx|hm> http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/
11:51 < PigBot`> Title: LexisNexis Custom Solution: Tennessee Code Research Tool (at www.lexisnexis.com)
11:51 < Synx|hm> oh ya ha
11:52 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That's actually what tn.gov links to.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> So, it's all but official.
11:52 <@Dagmar> I pulled an old bookmark
11:52 < _NSAKEY> They just don't want to maintain it themselves.
11:52 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Huh?  No, that's the TCA so it's very official
11:53 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I know, but that's the "official" maintained version of it.
11:53 <@Dagmar> Prior to websites I had to go to a damn library and wade through what looked like a set of encyclopedias on steroids
11:53 < _NSAKEY> Then again, it's not like there are a bunch of mirrors of it.
11:55 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: i read near all of it yesterday but there isn't much about people just finishing a lease, its mostly about disputes
11:57 <@Dagmar> Well, to put it bluntly, by that agreement it looks like you have 60 days regardless
11:57 < Synx|hm> ya except heres another thing, they have not provided me a new lease paperwork though i have asked 4 times, and now i am inside 60days
11:57 < Synx|hm> not that i think ill be able to move at lease end anyways
11:58 < aestetix> [trip]: have you ever argued an obscenity case?
11:58 < [trip]> aestetix: i’ve worked on a few
11:59 < [trip]> tampa was a hot bed for first amendment law — due to the number of strip clubs and a guy named joe redner who fights all the ordinances. our very own larry flint
11:59 < aestetix> nice
11:59 < aestetix> larry flint was epic
11:59 <@Mirage> [trip]: please don't encourage aestetix
12:00 < aestetix> what?
12:00 <@Dagmar> Synx|hm: Just make absolutely sure your rent is paid on time
12:00 <@Dagmar> Don't give them any reason to "lawyer up"
12:00  * [trip] is not barred anywhere aestetix is so he’s on his own
12:00 < aestetix> [trip]: did you see the new NSA leak that just came out?
12:00 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: oh ya for sure, never been late
12:00 <@Dagmar> If they lawyer up prematurely while you're still abiding by the written terms of the lease, they'll find that "you pay our bills" clause to be worthless
12:01 < [trip]> aestetix: which one?
12:01 <@Dagmar> It'd tkae them at least 60 days just to evict you if they want to be thick-headed about it
12:01 < aestetix> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/us/hunting-for-hackers-nsa-secretly-expands-internet-spying-at-us-border.html?_r=0
12:01 < aestetix> that one
12:01 < aestetix> Mirage: I'm harmless
12:02 <@Dagmar> The NSA's mission as far as they are concerned, is to spy on everyone, all of the time
12:02 <@Dagmar> No one should be surprised at how readily they ignore written law
12:04 <@Dagmar> Time to run in circles!  http://www.securitytracker.com/id/1032453
12:04 < PigBot`> Title: PCRE Heap Overflow in Regex Processing Lets Users Execute Arbitrary Code - SecurityTracker (at www.securitytracker.com)
12:04 <@Dagmar> That is, if you're crazy enough to let users specify regexps without you filtering them
12:05 <@Dagmar> ...which would be genuinely crazy even if there weren't a code execution vulnerability
12:05 <@Dagmar> it's not hard to wind up with a regexp that just burns CPU until the end of time
12:10 < [trip]> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibQGWXfWc7c
12:10 < [trip]> sad how timely that talk still is...
12:17 < aestetix> indeed
12:27 < [trip]> no wonder the DoD invited me to lunch after my talk at ShmooCon
12:28 < [trip]> the best part was Snowden released his stuff shortly after that.
12:28 < [trip]> i need to FOIA request my files; i’m curious
12:32 < aestetix> which talk did you do at schmoocon?
12:34 < aestetix> [trip]: :p
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12:41 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Sounds like the answer for anyone doing hacks from a remote box is to use hidden services to connect.
12:44 <@Mirage> Dagmar: See..Regex _is_ evil
12:48 < [trip]> aestetix: the one right after yours I think
12:49 < [trip]> it was 2 years ago. it was on legal issues with cloud computing
12:49 < [trip]> a lot of data collection stuff that became all too relevant.
12:51 < aestetix> oh interesting
12:51 < aestetix> that ws in 2013, right?
12:52 < aestetix> sure enoguh: http://www.shmoocon.org/shmoocon_2013
12:52 < PigBot`> Title: ShmooCon 2015 - January 16-18 - ShmooCon 2013 (at www.shmoocon.org)
12:54 < aestetix> [trip]: wait, you worked on bittorrent?
12:54 < [trip]> aestetix: no, i wrote azureus
12:54 < [trip]> lol
12:54 < aestetix> ahhh
12:54 < [trip]> now called vuze
12:54 < aestetix> I was gonna ask if you knew bram
12:54 < [trip]> i used to talk with bram
12:54 < [trip]> yeah, back in the day when it was like 10 of us on IRC
12:54 < aestetix> heh
12:54 < [trip]> doubt he remembers me, that was nearly 11 years ago
12:55 < [trip]> i did write the first working BT code in java =)
12:55 < [trip]> sorry about that, it never should have been done
12:56 < aestetix> oh that reminds me
12:56 < aestetix> does anyone here have a system I could run a database on?
12:56 < aestetix> I need someplace to put the keystore database, and I can't afford a server right now
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13:02 < aestetix> http://www.slideshare.net/aestetix/berlinsides-2015
13:02 < PigBot`> Title: Berlinsides 2015 (at www.slideshare.net)
13:02 < aestetix> now you can see why
13:29 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You lose points for not including ASCII goatse key signing screenshots.
13:30 < _NSAKEY> Then again, I only became aware of people doing such a thing a few days ago.
13:32 < aestetix> lol
13:32 < aestetix> Micah's thing?
13:32 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/605424122622017536
13:32 < PigBot`> Title: Peter Todd on Twitter: "So the new Facebook Inc. public key has been goatsed via keysigning: https://t.co/fnTPJSlv3k I should submit this to risks digest..." (at twitter.com)
13:32 < aestetix> I used Jake's sig because the germans all hate Jake
13:32 < _NSAKEY> I can't get that link to work now.
13:32 < _NSAKEY> Why do they hate him?
13:33 < aestetix> Long story. He's loud and annoying :p
13:35 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I hope you liked the gist of the talk though.
13:35 < aestetix> Ironically, I haven't actually gotten to answer the question, the entire reason I made the database
13:36 < _NSAKEY> My favorite slide was "Your papers, please..."
13:36 < _NSAKEY> I bet that went over well with the audience.
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13:46 < aestetix> yes
13:46 < aestetix> At the beginning I told them the alternate title of the talk was "No I will not sign your fucking public key"
13:48 < aestetix> http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/06/san-franciscos-median-rent-is-not-4225-really-its-not.html
13:48 < aestetix> I mean really. What a meaningless correction.
13:49 < aestetix> "The median rent is NOT four grand a month, it's actually only $3500"
13:49 < aestetix> so glad they cleared that up
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14:29 <@Mirage> aestetix: I think I'll stick with my $1200/mo house payment
14:39 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: when the heck is mr robot supposed to be on again?  it premiered over a week ago
14:41 <@Evilpig> nm.  I hit usa's site.  damn them
14:41 <@Evilpig> http://www.usanetwork.com/mrrobot
14:41 < PigBot`> Title: Mr. Robot | USA Network (at www.usanetwork.com)
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15:06 <@Evilpig> Come see Australian indie artists, dmasmusic, perform in our lobby for a special happy hour on Monday, June 8, at 6:30pm. The band is playing Governor’s Ball this weekend and are stoked to bring you an intimate show. We got you on drinks. Feel free to invite a friend.
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16:02 < [trip]> anyone going: https://nolacon.com/
16:02 < [trip]> ?
16:02 < PigBot`> Title: Home - NolaCon (at nolacon.com)
16:11 <@Evilpig> i'd be tempted to go
16:15 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: they called back, they want $300 more a month for month to month
16:15 < Synx|hm> thats nuts
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16:21 < [trip]> Synx|hm: why are you still fussing with the place?
16:21 < [trip]> clearly they’re assholes, just move
16:21 < Synx|hm> im trying to buy a house
16:21 < [trip]> they don’t want your business, so don’t give it to them
16:22 < Synx|hm> i dont think ill close in time
16:22 < Synx|hm> thats the problem, im trying to float them 2 ish months past my lease
16:22 < [trip]> then pay the extra
16:22 < [trip]> sounds like they have you by the balls
16:22 < [trip]> proverbial balls that is
16:22 < Synx|hm> ha
16:23 < Synx|hm> well the law says reasonable month to month
16:23 < Synx|hm> i dont think 300 extra is reasonable for the going rate around here these fuckers
16:23 < Synx|hm> i might just sign a 1 year and walk out of it
16:34 < Synx|hm> [trip]: this something i should consider talking to a lawyer about? or should i just eat it and move on?
16:34 < Synx|hm> only $600 if i can find something to close on soon
16:34 < [trip]> You want to hire an attorney over $600?
16:34 < Synx|hm> still though these people are dicks
16:35 < Synx|hm> no
16:35 < [trip]> smart
16:35 < Synx|hm> ha, i guess i wouldn't get free advice either would i
16:35 < [trip]> I bill almost that much per hour
16:35 < Synx|hm> ha
16:35 < Synx|hm> solid points thank you kind sir
16:35 < [trip]> =)
16:38 < [trip]> another successful mediation — excellent
16:38 < [trip]> a good attorney would tell you what i did; a bad one would take your money
16:38 < [trip]> lol
16:40 < Synx|hm> now the question is do i call them back and say 300 is insane but id take 200?
16:40 < Synx|hm> im thikning what bad could come of that, they say get the fuck out and then im in worse shape i guess, not sure if they can do that
16:42 <@Dagmar> Synx: If you sign a 1-year lease and walk out of it, they will have every right and ability to pursue you for the remaining value of the lease plus legal fees
16:42 <@Dagmar> In the short term you're way better off just having a "talk" with the property management company, explaining the situation.  They'll get their 60 days notice either way
16:43 < Synx|hm> ya
16:49 <@Dagmar> Probably the only reason you're getting friction from the management company is that it's outside their normal paperwork regimen
16:50 <@Dagmar> How much is rent there presently?
16:50 <@Dagmar> If the increase is less than 20% I'd just shrug it off
16:51 < Synx|hm> 1495
16:52 < Synx|hm> it is 20% im sure they just said ya go 20% lol
16:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah, that's probably part dickery and part what they were going to increase the rate by anyway
16:52 <@Dagmar> Most of them are convinced that leases should always go up each year because it means more money for them
16:52 < Synx|hm> no they said i can stay at the same if i sign a 1year
16:53 < Synx|hm> so its mostly dickery
16:53 <@Dagmar> They're probably expecting to be able to increase it by that for the next render
16:53 <@Dagmar> er renter
16:53 < Synx|hm> maybe not sure in this area though
16:53 < Synx|hm> its antioch after all
16:53 <@Dagmar> Regular raises like that on people who keep re-signing is counterproductive
16:53 <@Dagmar> Yeah they'll ask for it and then have to come down
16:53 <@Dagmar> Antioch is not "booming"
16:53 <@Dagmar> It's actually in decay
16:54 <@Dagmar> People who pay late and miss payments tend to incur much more management overhead
16:54 <@Dagmar> They should generally want to be nice to people who pay on time and just represent a few minutes of bookkeeping and a check deposit
16:54 < Synx|hm> that isn't me and they should see that from my record
16:55 <@Dagmar> yeah there should be some flexibility there for you.  I'd remind them of that
17:03 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, whoever told you that Antioch is booming shouldn't be taken seriously.
17:03 < _NSAKEY> That's just a laughably stupid claim.
17:03 < _NSAKEY> If Cracker Barrel can't make it in your part of town, then your part of town is dead in the water.
17:05 <@Dagmar> So, Lego Worlds _is_ actually pretty polished
17:06 <@Dagmar> ...although at the moment it's kind of barebones
17:06 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Are you going to tomorrow's meeting?
17:06 <@Dagmar> Oh yes
17:06 < _NSAKEY> It's looking like a no for me, unless I feel a lot better tomorrow morning.
17:06 <@Dagmar> ben's going to want to know about it if his kids haven't already been clamoring
17:06 <@Dagmar> They basically give you _all_ the blocks
17:06 <@Dagmar> All the blocks, in any color you'd care to paint them.
17:07 <@Dagmar> It's the props and vehicles you have to unlock by basically, discovering them and touching them
17:07 <@Dagmar> ...then you "buy" the construction with coins you got for smashing stuff
17:07 <@Dagmar> ...and there's both an eagle for a flying mount, and a FUCKING DRAGON that SHOOTS FIREBALLS
17:11 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Drugs man.  Take 'em if you need 'em
17:12 <@Dagmar> I started hearing my ears pop when I swallowed a few nights ago, and between that and the coughing from sinus mucus, I got my ass in the car and bought some cold pills at 3am
17:12 <@Dagmar> i'm not taking any more chances with ear infections
17:12 <@Dagmar> They suck and occasionally go to the inner ear which _really_ sucks
17:13 <@Dagmar> There's nothing so much fun as being pinned to the floor by the spins without the fun of alcohol
17:13  * Dagmar throws a salt over his shoulder
17:36 < _NSAKEY> I had that happen once when I was 18 or so. Not fun at all.
17:36 < _NSAKEY> And I'm already lightly medicated.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> It started out with a sore throat.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> Now I've got sinuses on top of that.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> But I blew most of that shit out in one go this morning and it hasn't been much of a problem since.
17:37 < _NSAKEY> My throat and sinuses are raw, and I can barely talk.
17:39 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: if I understand you right, I can discover new things by just touching them?  I need to head to the NY office for a bit.
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17:59 <@Dagmar> Heheh
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18:56 <@Evilpig> ROFL  https://twitter.com/olivegarden/status/606586148979240961
18:56 < PigBot`> Title: Olive Garden on Twitter: "@tumblr Our breadstick sandwich Food Truck is giving away free samples now at the Flatiron! Hurry, come see us! http://t.co/Zv0vp0oQwb" (at twitter.com)
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