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02:01 < RangerZ> so the life lesson for this week... from Mr Robot... don't make decisions while on morphine
02:04 <@Dagmar> Heh
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02:31 < RangerZ> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/01/us-usa-security-surveillance-idUSKBN0OG0RF20150601
02:31 < RangerZ> wow... I didn't see THAT coming
02:31 < RangerZ> Evilpig: your bot needs to grab headlines better
02:31 < RangerZ> [Senate lets NSA spy program lapse, at least for now]
02:31 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Sharia Law is now in effect.
02:31 < _NSAKEY> THE TERRORISTS WIN, GUYS.
02:32 < RangerZ> whats that... this feeling
02:33 < RangerZ> its....  more privacy and MORE safety b/c the NSA et.al. can focus on REAL data
02:33 < RangerZ> not my browsing habits
02:33 < _NSAKEY> The internet is not touched by this.
02:33 < _NSAKEY> Just phone calls.
02:33 < _NSAKEY> Oh, and the FBI can't do national security letters anymore.
02:33 < _NSAKEY> They basically just lost a flimsy justification to use the constitution as toilet paper.
02:37 < aestetix> so uh
02:38 < aestetix> where are the terrorist attacks we're gonna be getting?
02:39 < cyberanger> They'll come, when the Military Indrustrial Complex feels like another payday
02:53 < RangerZ> nah
02:53 < RangerZ> nothing as conspiratorial as that
02:54 < RangerZ> just that they will have the bills written to be passed WHEN that happens
02:54 < RangerZ> its just a waiting game
02:54 < _NSAKEY> I once read (But don't know how true it was) that something like the patriot act was written back in the Reagan/Bush days and just put in a drawer somewhere.
02:55 < RangerZ> nah
02:55 < RangerZ> it was written in public, in the mid 90s
02:55 < RangerZ> chaney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld, etc... all signed documents in public, stating that we should invade iraq and stay there forever
02:56 < RangerZ> I forget the name of the Think Tank, but I think it was called "New American Century" the document
02:56 < _NSAKEY> I mean in terms of the domestic freedom-hating in the patriot act itself.
02:56 < _NSAKEY> The Iraq mess is something else entirely.
02:57 < RangerZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century nvm that WAS the think tank's name
02:57 < PigBot`> Title: Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:57 < RangerZ> no it isn't
02:57 < RangerZ> they are one in the same
02:57 < _NSAKEY> Invading Iraq had nothing to do with trampling on civil liberties here.
02:57 < RangerZ> thats how neoconservatism works
02:57 < RangerZ> yes it does
02:57 < _NSAKEY> Both have the same root cause, but the problems themselves are different.
02:57 < RangerZ> not to them
02:58 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I have trouble believing that they actually bought their own bullshit about Iraq.
02:58 < _NSAKEY> Smells more like a cynical money grab than anything to actually believe in.
02:58 < RangerZ> you gotta let your mind dive deep into their ideas... to be able to realize just how fucked up everything is in their world
02:58 < RangerZ> ohh no.... see those GO TOGETHER
02:58 < _NSAKEY> Then again, a lot of neocons think the world is only 6,000 years old.
02:59 < _NSAKEY> Reason doesn't apply to that level of stupid.
02:59 < RangerZ> they invest in haliburten, etc... b/c they BELIEVE in endless war to promote US (hard)power
02:59 < RangerZ> its the same as us investing in solar
02:59 < RangerZ> if I invest in solar, and I become a congressman, i'll promote solar
02:59 < RangerZ> those aren't "directly" related
02:59 < RangerZ> but they have a nice  "synergy"
02:59 < RangerZ> lol
03:00 < _NSAKEY> Whereas they profit off of warfare and feed the military-industrial complex.
03:00 < RangerZ> so?
03:00 < RangerZ> thats only a minor detail to them
03:00 < RangerZ> (sadly)
03:00 < _NSAKEY> But, going to war on false pretenses is still not the same as shoveling the patriot act down our throats.
03:00 < RangerZ> like chaney, he _honestly_ believes that "if a president does it, its legal"
03:00 < _NSAKEY> So did Nixon.
03:01 < _NSAKEY> And Hunter Thompson was right about that guy. They should have dumped his casket in a sewer.
03:01 < RangerZ> when he was in congress
03:01 < RangerZ> there was 2~3 times when he was the ONLY person to vote a certain way
03:01 < RangerZ> one of them was about that
03:01 < _NSAKEY> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/
03:02 < PigBot`> Title: He Was a Crook - The Atlantic (at www.theatlantic.com)
03:02 < RangerZ> [Of the twenty-five people who signed the PNAC's founding statement of principles, ten went on to serve in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.]
03:02 < RangerZ> thats all you gotta know
03:03 < RangerZ> hell Iraq shouldn't be a nation
03:04 < RangerZ> it should have been sliced up into 3
03:04 < RangerZ> and thats what is likely going to happen
03:04 < RangerZ> even if Syria/Iraq exist after ISIS, the Kurds are going to keep the land they have captured in syria (and probably push for more, b/c the north of Syria has ethnic Kurds)
03:05 < RangerZ> so then Kurdistan would have  a seaport
03:05 < RangerZ> (which if anyone has played civ 5 know.... is important) ;)
03:08 < _NSAKEY> Read that link I pasted, and imagine it being reworded to be about Dick Cheney.
03:09 < RangerZ> pretty much
03:10 < RangerZ> I think personally the worst thing for US/World history that Obama has done, is not prosecute war crimes on chaney/CIA
03:10 < RangerZ> b/c it sets a precedent
03:10 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, and if he did that, then the next republican would do the same to him.
03:12 < RangerZ> maybe
03:12 < RangerZ> maybe not
03:12 < RangerZ> but if presidents have to tip toe around and not do anything that can be even SLIGHTLY thought of as war crimes
03:12 < RangerZ> I'm alright with that
03:13 < RangerZ> b/c killing innocents is NOT a war crime (ironically) , but it would mean we would have to legally declare wars, declare targets, etc
03:14 < RangerZ> personally my opinion is that we never sent ENOUGH troops to iraq
03:14 < RangerZ> historically you have always needed at least 7 soldiers 1000 civilians to hold an area
03:14 < RangerZ> we sent 2.5~3.5 depending on time
03:15 < RangerZ> we should have also enacted a draft
03:15 < RangerZ> _this_ coming from someone who would have turned 18 during that
03:17 < _NSAKEY> On a totally different subject, did you see Halt and Catch Fire?
03:18 < RangerZ> no
03:18 < _NSAKEY> A shame. Tonight's episode was the first one of the new season, and Cameron's antics made me laugh hard.
03:22 < RangerZ> http://www.thetanooki.com/2015/06/01/nikkei-nintendo-nxs-operating-system-will-be-based-on-android/
03:22 < RangerZ> interesting
03:22 < RangerZ> makes me think its a portable console then
03:22 < RangerZ> perhaps the WII U's tablet controller, with an inhome docking station for higher CPU/GPU performance+ battery life
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04:42 < RangerZ> so I'm thinking of being evil....
04:43 < RangerZ> and putting this in an upcoming assignment [ // Note to reader - Sorry in advance and good luck. ]
04:44 < RangerZ> anyone who actually reads the documentation will know that isn't a good sign, lol
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10:49 <@oddball> fucking MS taunting me with their little "reserve your copy of win10" button.
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11:45 <@Mirage> Evilpig: when are we doing Current River again?
11:46 <@Evilpig> I'm game whenever. Logistics are just a bit more difficult now
11:46 <@Evilpig> I have plenty of vacation time to burn too
11:49 <@Mirage> I'm headed to Branson next week.  Other corner of the state.  Will be hitting up Lambert's at some point...get some food thrown at me.
11:49 <@Evilpig> mmmm throwed rolls
11:51 <@Mirage> NL says he can't do this year (of course I'm sure all the cabins are LONG gone), but is game for next year.
11:51 <@Evilpig> I'll hit them up later this week and see
12:03 <@Mirage> NL says we HAVE to drag Dolemite there
12:03 <@Mirage> I could have sworn there was a website for checking on the cabin rentals.
12:04 <@Evilpig> big springs cabins
12:04 <@Mirage> yeah
12:04 <@Evilpig> it appears down
12:05 <@Mirage> Might be why I'm not finding the website.   I knew to search for Big Spring.  Thought it might be linked via park service, but not finding it there yet either
12:06 <@Mirage> Ah, ha... "The Big Spring Dining Lodge and Cabins will be closed for an extended period beginning in January 2015 for much-needed repair and rehabilitation. Due to the broad scope of this project, the restoration process is expected to take several years to complete."
12:06 <@Mirage> =(
12:06 <@Evilpig> damn
12:07 <@Evilpig> might just need to call anyway they might have part of them in order
12:07 <@Evilpig> pretty sure we'd all agree they could use some maint up in there though
12:08 <@Mirage> They're log cabins...
12:10 <@Evilpig> that they are.  I want to say one of the last cabins we got was supposed to be two and they had the other side boarded up
12:11 <@Mirage> I would suggest camping instead but this kills hat idea: "Please keep in mind that quiet hours are from 10:00 pm to 6:00 am. Others want to sleep for their big day floating or may have children who go to bed early."
12:11 <@Evilpig> children ruining other people's vacations...
12:12 <@klixa> children going t bed early while camping... HA
12:13 <@Mirage> http://www.scenicrivercabins.com
12:13 < PigBot`> Title: Scenic River Cabins at Van Buren, Mo. (at www.scenicrivercabins.com)
12:16 <@Evilpig> Mirage: I was all for that idea until it started making noise, now I just wannt go there and punch them in their stupid faces
12:20 <@Evilpig> if we didn't want to do cabin we could always just do the landing too
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13:01 <@Dagmar> Well, I guess we can safely say that AV Club is firmly taking a stand against the oppression of oligarchs
13:01 <@Dagmar> Their "review" of Mr. Robot isn't too far from jumping up and down and shoting "THIS SHOW SMELLS LIKE STINKY POO!  STINKY POO STINKY POO!"
13:01 <@Dagmar> Fuck those idiots.
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13:28 <@Evilpig> co-worker was having trouble sliding a server out so I said he just suffered an id ten t error.  he said "what's that? can I goole that?"
13:39 <@Evilpig> looking over the lunch specials this looked tasty and then I had to go "wait a minute here..."  https://www.dropbox.com/s/9fhowt45tkz19te/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-01%20at%201.38.46%20PM.png?dl=0
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13:56 <@Mirage> wow..this is a glowing review for a zombie movie: "if you want to watch something with zombies that looks, sounds and has better characters than this then you should watch someone play left 4 dead."
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14:50 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/svqjournalist/status/605440044476735489
14:50 < PigBot`> Title: Sergio Quintana on Twitter: "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence perform an "Exorcism" of #Facebook s Real Name policy as part of #MyNameIs effort. http://t.co/Axle4aHLjV" (at twitter.com)
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15:56 < [trip]> brimstone: aren’t you in ATL? I am too now!
15:56 < [trip]> And is PN still accepting papers for 2015?
15:56 <@Evilpig> [trip]: don't know
15:56 <@Evilpig> the organizers don't hang out in here anymore
15:56 < [trip]> that’s fucked
15:57 < _NSAKEY> [trip]: Nobody has said to stop sending papers.
15:57 <@brimstone> [trip]: did they finally kick you out of florida?
15:57 < [trip]> who the hell runs it now?
15:57 < [trip]> brimstone: i removed myself
15:57 <@brimstone> bentheme1: runs phreaknic now
15:57 <@brimstone> let's be honest
15:57 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: That's because the drama from last year is like Israelis vs Palestinians.
15:57 <@brimstone> they just announced the days, so send your paper now!
15:57 < [trip]> Jesus, more drama?!
15:57 <@brimstone> [trip]: coming to atl2600 friday?
15:57 < _NSAKEY> [trip]: I'm talking about last year's drama.
15:57 < [trip]> brimstone: didn’t know it was going on
15:57 < [trip]> just got here.
15:57 <@brimstone> it's so going on
15:57 <@brimstone> just in time!
15:57 < [trip]> brimstone: you have to help me integrate up here
15:58 < _NSAKEY> [trip]: Elonka is calling the shots now.
15:58 < [trip]> doing tech again. had a kid and decided being an attorney takes up more time than i wanted 
15:58 < [trip]> kid > legal
15:58 < [trip]> i don’t know any of these people
15:58 < _NSAKEY> She doesn't do IRC very often.
15:58 < [trip]> i assume they’re cool
15:58 < [trip]> wtf is with the drama? that shit needs to stop
15:58 < _NSAKEY> It pretty much has.
15:58 <@brimstone> Elonka is our wikipedia connection
15:58 < [trip]> the best part of the scene is the lack of drama. we get that from the “normal” people
15:58 <@brimstone> you know her
15:59  * [trip] lived next to wikipedia’s beggings when in law school
15:59 < [trip]> st pete++
15:59 < [trip]> brimstone: i do? excellent
15:59 < [trip]> she must be a good cat then
15:59 <@brimstone> [trip]: you should come to atl2600 and meet scoob
15:59 < [trip]> scoob, eh?
15:59 < [trip]> is summercon the conference up here? i need to get on this circuit
15:59 <@brimstone> yeah, he does a bunch of malware research
15:59 <@brimstone> no, summercon moved to nyc
15:59 < [trip]> i know shit up here. everytime i email billy hoffman i never hear back =(
15:59 < [trip]> wtf.
15:59 < [trip]> lol
15:59 <@brimstone> no cons currently in atl, save that one about dragons
16:00 < [trip]> ah yes dragoncon
16:00 < [trip]> brimstone: sounds like an opportunity =)
16:00 < [trip]> Sky still doing Outerz0ne?
16:00 < [trip]> He’s up north now too isn’t he?
16:00 <@brimstone> no, outerz0ne died year before last
16:00 <@brimstone> you have been out of it
16:00 <@brimstone> he's in DC i think now
16:01 < [trip]> Crazy
16:02 < [trip]> man, the scene collpased on my hiatus. Man goes to start a famiy and take on the tobacco industry for a few years, wins, returns to the fold, and boom shits gone
16:02 < [trip]> I’m guessing SDC died too then, eh?
16:02 < [trip]> Fuck.
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16:02 < [trip]> DerbyCon is still lit I’m guessing
16:02 <@brimstone> SDC happened last year, but i doubt it this year
16:03 <@brimstone> i think it was 6 guys around an mp3 player last year
16:03 < _NSAKEY> [trip]: They either sold out of DerbyCon tickets this year or are about to.
16:03 < Synx|hm> So, MS has killed WMC, what other options are there for cablecard users via network streamers
16:04 < [trip]> ouch
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16:04 < [trip]> Synx|hm: I used a homerun hd
16:05 < [trip]> I’ll ping irongeek, guessing CFP is over on DerbyCon then
16:05 < [trip]> Nope open until July 20, 2015.
16:05 < [trip]> Hmm.
16:06 <@brimstone> [trip]: where are you in town?
16:06 <@Evilpig> outside your window
16:06 < Synx|hm> [trip]: i have the prime, however the only software certified to decrypt cablecard protected channels is windows media center
16:06 <@brimstone> probably, there's a lot of people out there
16:06 <@brimstone> Evilpig: are you going to summercon this year?
16:06 < Synx|hm> im guessing xbox one might be able to view them too, but it does not DVR
16:06 <@Evilpig> negative
16:06 <@brimstone> i think one of the ml2⁸ers is going
16:06 <@Evilpig> I am doing jack shit this summer
16:07 <@brimstone> congrats!
16:07 <@Evilpig> I have several concert tickets already though
16:07 <@Evilpig> hell this week i'm going to see crobot, anthrax, volbeat and then on saturday rob zombie and whover he has opening
16:08 < [trip]> brimstone: I’m here now
16:08 < [trip]> how often does atl2600 meet?
16:08 <@Evilpig> found a beer garden on saturday that serves original sin cider and has a new view
16:08 <@brimstone> [trip]: first friday of every month, just like every other 2600, atl2600.org
16:33 < Synx|hm> [trip]: nm looks like silicondust had a kickstarter for a new DVR that will accomplish the missing WMC Windows 10 functionality
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16:52 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qi4yj8uokjt67mb/2015-06-01%2016.51.01.jpg?dl=0
16:55 <@klixa> you started tumblr oct 31,2013?
16:58 <@Evilpig> yup
16:58 <@Evilpig> actually oct 10
17:13 <@klixa> oct 10!=oct 31... :)
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23:02 < RangerZ> Dagmar: Evilpig thank god... Bravely Default 2 will come out in 2016
23:02 < RangerZ> not 'too soon'
23:02 < RangerZ> lol
23:22 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqi65at_p4k [Muslim Woman Denied Can Of Coke On Plane Because She Could Use It As A Weapon]
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