--- Log opened Fri May 29 00:00:02 2015
00:11 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoKkq685Hk HAHAHA
00:11 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: your bot sucks with grabbing YT titles, lol
00:13 < RangerZ1> but its a 3min video of Youtube's 10 year anniversary
00:13 < aestetix> way
00:13 < aestetix> youtube started in 2005?
00:13 < aestetix> I thought it was 2006 for some reason
00:13 < RangerZ1> yep
00:13 < RangerZ1> went 'big' in 06 IIRC
00:14 < RangerZ1> and 07? GOOG bought them?
00:19 < RangerZ1> and '13 google forced google+ on youtube and pretty much the comment section hasn't recovered since
00:19 < RangerZ1> it had a 'bad' comment system before
00:20 < RangerZ1> but now its worse than 4chan on a lot of channels
00:23 < aestetix> lol youtube has cmments?
00:32 < RangerZ1> yeah
00:32 < RangerZ1> they are really important for the algorithms
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00:33 < RangerZ1> but youtube ad revenue is ~ or < 50% what they were last year
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00:33 < RangerZ1> thats why all the big (top 500 or so~ish) ones are diverging and looking for other $ sources
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00:34 < RangerZ1> << I've been looking into it a lot b/c of thinking about how to make good videos for the MOOCs, etc
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00:34 < RangerZ1> ohh thanks EA, now I know I don't have to bother about caring about this game at all http://www.gamespot.com/articles/need-for-speed-will-require-an-online-connection/1100-6427672/
00:34 < PigBot`> Title: Need For Speed Will Require An Online Connection - GameSpot (at www.gamespot.com)
00:44 < aestetix> jesus
00:44 < aestetix> this sql query has been running for 3.5 hours
00:48 < RangerZ1> what was it... mysql put R directly into it?
00:48 < aestetix> put R?
00:48 < RangerZ1> R
00:48 < RangerZ1> the programming language for statistics
00:48 < aestetix> oh
00:48 < aestetix> no
00:49 < RangerZ1> which is the biggest success story of OSS
00:49 < aestetix> it's a select distinct, with a constraint, over 20 million rows
00:49 < RangerZ1> joining?
00:49 < RangerZ1> you might have been better off with a map/reduce then
00:51 < RangerZ1> because that could have been done in a few minutes with enough parallelism, lol
00:52  * aestetix shrugs
00:52 < aestetix> it's not urgent
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00:54 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What's the underlying hardware like?
00:55 < RangerZ1> a gateway computer from 2003
00:55 < RangerZ1> ;)
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00:56 < aestetix> hahahahaha
00:56 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/kevinrose/status/604135910322626560
00:57 < PigBot`> Title: Kevin Rose on Twitter: "@davemorin what does this mean for path investors? I think were in the dark here." (at twitter.com)
00:57 < aestetix> Apparnetly Path got achquired and didn't bother to tell their investors
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02:47 < RangerZ> Dagmar: you can now (as of today) include vector graphics in android
02:48 < RangerZ> no need to 'manually' create pngs for 'each' and every img size
02:48 < RangerZ> hehehehe
03:13 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ihSQ44WO0 kid in a candy store with some of the new features
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06:53 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: That was actually there for 5, but it did not work on earlier versions
06:54 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Now, if you're telling me that M has a compatibility layer so that vector drawables will work on versions prior to 5.0 without having to consult Build codes and provide your own engine for the drawables on prior verions, that's another matter
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09:28 <@Dagmar> Grrr... I'm about to switch off the "beta client" options in Steam.  Having it force a reboot on my desktop on a nightly basis is starting to really get on my nerves
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09:58 <@Dagmar> Hehehe hehehe hheh hehehe heh https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=902716139788168&fref=nf
09:58 < PigBot`> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
09:58 <@Dagmar> "Police Pull Over Batman on Lamborghini Batmobile"
09:59 <@Dagmar> The cops were pretty cool about it considering he didn't have a genuine licence plate on the car
10:00 <@Dagmar> Of course, it's not like there could be all that many Batman-modded Lamborghini's around
10:00 <@Dagmar> You issue an APB for _Batman_ this is _definitely_ the dude they're going to pull over
10:01 <@Dagmar> Dispatch: "All officers are instructed to be on the lookout for Batman."
10:01 <@Dagmar> Dispatch: "No, I'm serious."
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10:20 <@Dickie> How have they NEVER cornered the Batmobile in an alley or something?
10:21 <@Dagmar> Batman actually listens to his GPS and doesn't use an Apple phone
10:24 <@Dickie> But he leaves it
10:24 <@Dickie> He's chasing joker down into the sewer and the car's just sitting there, surrounded by cops.
10:24 <@Dickie> One of them slaps a boot on it
10:24 <@Dickie> Game over
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11:12 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So M is going to come with an appcompat library to handle vectordrawables on <5.0 platforms?
11:13 <@Dagmar> ...because when I looked into them before, getting a vectordrawable working on <5.0 required a third-party library called Mr. Vector
11:13 <@Dagmar> That was a show-stopper for me
11:26 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I think so
11:26 < RangerZ> I'll have to look into it
11:26 <@Dagmar> I was kind of surprised there wasn't already a compatability library
11:26 < RangerZ> some of the changes go back, but only 'so far'
11:27 < RangerZ> yeah, they are adding it in "support library" features, etc
11:36 < RangerZ> but I only listened to the youtube talks last night
11:37 < RangerZ> I didn't really pay 'super' attention
11:37 < RangerZ> will have to sit down and read through some docs carefully
11:37 < RangerZ> and/or just -try- it, lol
11:38 < RangerZ> also, the .svg files are compiled into the .png(s) at compile time
11:38 < RangerZ> not runtime
11:38 < RangerZ> for different resolutions
11:38 < RangerZ> so there is -some- possible issues, with how 'well' it makes the PNGs
11:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah I was digging around this morning about it all
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12:02 < aestetix> http://boingboing.net/2015/05/28/rickrolling-is-sexist-racist.html
12:02 < PigBot`> Title: Rickrolling is sexist, racist and often transphobic in context - Boing Boing (at boingboing.net)
12:10 <@Dagmar> WTF are they smoking
12:10 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, they're reporting based on someone's Tumblr tantrum
12:12 <@Dagmar> Looking at it, this has to be the most ham-handed Rickroll ever
12:12 <@Dagmar> From Tumblr: "I wish this were true. There.s a really good article about the problems inherent with rickrolling here."
12:12 <@Dagmar> The "article" is nothing but a rickroll.
12:12  * Dagmar throws his hands up
12:12 <@Evilpig> This is why we need a button
12:12 <@oddball> Dagmar: Thanks, I've now (hopefully) read the stupidist thing I'm going to read today.
12:13 <@Evilpig> press button, stupid explodes
12:13 <@Dagmar> Kickstarter.
12:13 <@Evilpig> yeah like we could ever get that one approved.
12:13 <@oddball> And also a wonderful example of why I stopped reading Boinboing a long time ago.
12:13 <@Dagmar> Good fuckin' god
12:14 <@Dagmar> I have to "tweak" my resume because apparently this hiring manager somehow came to the conclusion that I am "light" on IT security experience
12:14 <@oddball> If anything, rickrolling should be encouraged, since the type of folks that will do that are the types that would also use goat.se, etc.
12:14 <@Evilpig> did you list IT security on there specifically?
12:15 <@Evilpig> or did you call it like linux security?  or just general security?
12:15 <@oddball> or... maybe it's a meta-joke, since the link... yeah.  I'm going to go with meta-joke.
12:16  * oddball has been dealing with that stupid so long that he's having difficulty telling the difference.
12:18 <@Mirage> Anyone who uses networksolutions should check to see if they have had a ".info" domain added to their account and are now being billed for it.
12:18 <@Evilpig> they tried to sell me a .xyz domain
12:19 <@Evilpig> actually they "gave" it to me and I refused to renew it
12:20 <@Dagmar> I don't even know how someone can look over my resume and decide I'm "light" on that
12:20 <@Dagmar> It's not like we even _had_ an effective security team at Vandy
12:21 <@Evilpig> hiring managers are often dullars that are looking for specific keywords without having any understanding as to their meaning
12:21 <@Mirage> Yeah, they gave me the .info for 1yr for free and claimed it would just go away after that unless I selected it for autorenew.
12:21 <@Evilpig> and then they flagged it for autorenew... they're dicks like that
12:22 <@Evilpig> I had to call and get a refund for something similar they did to me
12:22 <@Mirage> Needless to say they had a "glitch", so I got charged for renewal, premium dns, web protect, and protected registration
12:22 <@Mirage> yeah, I just got off the phone with them, that's why i figured i'd mention it in channel
12:40 < aestetix> Dagmar: hahahah
12:40 < aestetix> I had assumed the boingboing post *was* a rickroll.
12:41 <@Dagmar> It basically _is_ just a rickroll.
12:42 < aestetix> re: security experience, maybe if you send her an email from her email address, she'll rethink that.
12:42 < aestetix> port 25 ftw
12:42 <@Dagmar> Screw it.
12:43 <@Dagmar> I'm going to tell the recruiter that this is almost certainly just an impasse
12:43 <@Dagmar> If this place isn't looking for someone like me at the rate they're offering, all they're going to wind up hiring is a professional liar.
12:44 <@Dagmar> The word "security" is in my resume like ninteen damn times
12:46 < aestetix> Dagmar: do you know what company it is?
12:47 < aestetix> maybe you can do a pentest of their site and email them their password :p
12:47 <@Dagmar> Noooo
12:47 <@Dagmar> Lots and lots of no
12:48 <@Dagmar> I'm not blowing a day doing a penetration assessment for someone who is already jerking me around when they're more likely to threaten to arrest me than they are to hire me
12:49 < aestetix> well if you find someting good, you can make a buck selling it to china
12:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's another thing I'm never, ever going to do.
12:50 <@Dagmar> Selling exploits to assholes?  No thanks.
12:55 <@Dagmar> Remember, there's a seven-figure price tag on my integrity
12:56 <@Dagmar> If I land another decent job, it's just going to get another digit or three
13:15 < aestetix> my god
13:15 < aestetix> we requested that rackspce do stuff in a screen session so we could review their work
13:15 < aestetix> "We wouldn't be able to do a screen session while we are working on it because there is no guarantee I will be able to finish the process in one screen session or have to step away for a moment."
13:16 < aestetix> This is from a technical engineer.
13:16 < aestetix> Someone who has the ability to log into servers and delete things.
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13:17 < aestetix> Dagmar: so maybe you can get a job at rackspace :p
13:40 < RangerZ> that article is funny... b/c GOOGLE just rickrolled over 1.5m people
13:40 < RangerZ> as has the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade
13:59 <@oddball> Oh hey! A Facebook friend just invited me to a "don't save the fairgrounds" group.
13:59 <@oddball> Yeah... no.
14:00 <@oddball> Let's see... there's races there on a regular basis, and there's something taking up at least a couple of the buildings every weekend.  And that's with the current conditions of those buildings.
14:04 < RangerZ> huh?
14:04 < RangerZ> "don't Save?
14:05 <@Evilpig> the city has been trying to reclaim that land for a while
14:05 <@Evilpig> but they really do have shit there all the time
14:05 < RangerZ> ahh
14:06 <@Evilpig> you can't really build much else there because of the flood status
14:06 < RangerZ> is that why they named it "TN State Fairgrounds" ?
14:06 <@Evilpig> and let's be real, the bulk of that land is hte parking lot which can't be used for anything else
14:06 < RangerZ> yeah it can
14:06 <@oddball> Well, they named it that because... uh... it was built to hold the TN State Fair.
14:06 < RangerZ> build parking underneath office buildings
14:06 < RangerZ> lol
14:07 < RangerZ> which is probably what someone wants to do
14:07 <@Evilpig> build underground parking on a flood plane?  
14:07 < RangerZ> and they just aren't saying publicly yet
14:07 < RangerZ> no
14:07 < RangerZ> above ground
14:07 <@oddball> And before our good mayor decided to try to sell it to his developer cronies, the state gave the city money to maintain the place.
14:08 < RangerZ> just start the office building on 3rd~4th floor
14:08 <@oddball> Now that money goes directly to the private entity that actually runs the fair.
14:08 <@Evilpig> and with the ground status in that area ?  you'd trust there to not be limestone underneath that would eventually swallow the entire building?
14:08 < RangerZ> Evilpig: what _I_ trust isn't the matter
14:09 < RangerZ> its what VC are willing to gamble money on, that counts
14:09 <@oddball> And now you have to pay $5 for parking if you want to go to anything at the fairgrounds (that money goes directly to the upkeep of the fairgrounds).
14:09 <@Mirage> http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/22/asia/chinajoy-cleavage-crackdown
14:09 < PigBot`> Title: China cracks down on cleavage at cosplay convention - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
14:10 <@Evilpig> http://cvento.co/bFA9
14:11 <@oddball> I'm actually kind of surprised that anyone is still trying to push this, since the referendum to get rid of it failed horribly a couple years ago.
14:11 <@oddball> Of course, I still see some folks trying to push AMP, so...
14:11 <@Evilpig> Mirage: coworker just asked "who's job is it to wield the ruler?"
14:12 <@Mirage> nice
14:12 <@oddball> heh... someone responded to him with this picture: http://tinyurl.com/oshueev (NSFW?  I guess?)
14:16 <@oddball> Oh... and a primary reason this guy wants to get rid of the fair grounds is to get rid of red necks.  Ummmm... you realize you're in Nashville, right?
14:17 <@Mirage> Evilpig: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/travel/manhattanhenge-sun-new-york-feat
14:17 < PigBot`> Title: New Yorkers primed for 'Manhattanhenge' - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
14:21 <@Evilpig> Mirage: oddly enough I am aware of this 
14:21 <@Evilpig> learned about it on one of those conspiracy theory shows. lol
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14:24 <@Evilpig> http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-america-unearthed-s03e10-egyptian-secrets-of-nyc
14:24 < PigBot`> Title: Review of America Unearthed S03E10 "Egyptian Secrets of NYC" - Jason Colavito (at www.jasoncolavito.com)
14:27 <@oddball> It's a big deal.  It's the only time New Yorkers get to see the sun.  The rest of the time, the buildings block it out. :p
14:31 < RangerZ> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-29/u-s-takes-cuba-off-terror-list-paving-the-way-for-normal-ties
14:31 < PigBot`> Title: U.S. Takes Cuba off Terror List, Paving Way for Normal Ties - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com)
14:31 < RangerZ> THAT is big
14:31 < RangerZ> we'll all be vacationing in cuba soon
14:31 < RangerZ> lol
14:31 < RangerZ> and anyone with major medical bills will be going there for surgery (surprisingly some of the best doctors in the world)
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15:39 < RangerZ> https://twitter.com/righteouscoder/status/604371356587855873 lol
15:39 < PigBot`> Title: righteouscoder on Twitter: "@NeedforSpeed @DeanRheims Thanks for saying you dont want my $, even @Ubisoft has learned with AC Syndicate that M.P. is NOT what ppl want" (at twitter.com)
15:40 < RangerZ> b/c NFS is "online only"
15:40 < RangerZ> to "provide better narrative experience" "with you and your friends"
15:46 < RangerZ> uhhhohhh
15:48 < RangerZ> apparently i started a mini rant (so far) from the offical NFS account saying that just b/c you need a 'constant online connection' doesn't mean there isn't a single player built in as well
15:49 <@sasquatc3> yea nfs rivals has an offline single player mode, but it also doesnt require a constant internet connection
15:50 <@sasquatc3> but thats the point, its fears that having a constant connection as a requirement just means planned obsolence for when they shut down the servers, at least for me
15:50 < RangerZ> i don't even care about -that- as much
15:50 < RangerZ> MMOs have that too
15:51 < RangerZ> I worry about the fact that the -game design- will suffer
15:51 < RangerZ> along with story
15:51 < RangerZ> NFS Most Wanted is STILL a good game, b/c it had a story, etc
15:52 < RangerZ> Ubisoft has got to be sitting there like "hahahahaha"
15:52 < RangerZ> "man when even WE learn our lesson"
15:52 < RangerZ> b/c AC Syndicate will have _NO_ multiplayer at all, no 'companion app'
15:52 < RangerZ> etc
15:52 < RangerZ> lol
16:06 < RangerZ> hehe... "@NeedforSpeed Yes,I'd like to know how a game w/ "single player" requires "constant online connection". weather effects via TCP?"
16:09 < RangerZ> also... I had to change my email settings on twitter to NOT notify me -anytime.... anything- happens with my account...
16:09 < RangerZ> I barely use the damn thing <100 tweets
16:10 < RangerZ> and I got like 20 emails all of a sudden, lol
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16:57 <@sasquatc3> hmm, http://www.cardinalpeak.com/ , wonder if they're any good
16:57 < PigBot`> Title: Embedded Contract Engineering, Video & Audio, Internet of Things | Cardinal Peak (at www.cardinalpeak.com)
16:58 < RangerZ> http://www.cardinalpeak.com/about-us/clients/ I'd think so
16:58 < PigBot`> Title: Engineering Clients, Contract Engineering Client Projects | Cardinal Peak (at www.cardinalpeak.com)
16:58 <@sasquatc3> well their internal HR just sent me an email, but theres no salary info out there on them except for 1 senior UI developer
16:59 < RangerZ> yeah I hate that about most jobs out there
16:59 < RangerZ> I got a head hunter sending me a 125k java dev position in nashville
17:00 <@sasquatc3> yea, and the one posted salary isnt really any higher than what i make here
17:00 < RangerZ> actually showing the pay was kinda surprising
17:00 < RangerZ> 125k is ~100k more than what I make...
17:01 < RangerZ> so it was a bit tempting...
17:01 < RangerZ> lol
17:01 < RangerZ> I told my advisor "yeah, I couldn't work last night, b/c I felt kinda knifed in the back, not having that money"
17:01 < RangerZ> lol
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18:01 < RangerZ> yeah... fuck that nonsense
18:01 < RangerZ> I didn't realize it was going to be an ~50min drive to Elonka's from my place
18:02 < RangerZ> no wonder they want the fucking meetings down in bumm fucked egypt franklin too
18:47 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I was the only person who opposed moving the meetings to cool springs.
18:48 < _NSAKEY> I would have been more open to corrupting the juvenile delinquents at the Opry Mills Day Care.
18:50 < _NSAKEY> As it stands, Cool Springs has a Jonathan's, and their pizza is god tier.
18:50 < _NSAKEY> That's the up side to me.
18:50 < _NSAKEY> I'm planning on abstaining from the fast food in the food court.
19:29 < aestetix> heh
19:29 < aestetix> it is quite ironic that someone has asked me to sign their pgp key, literally hours before I am going to give a talk on why I do not sign pgp keys :p
19:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You should tell them, "Give me a few hours, I have to do this talk which you should totally check out."
19:39 < RangerZ> aestetix: did you do it?
19:39 < aestetix> oh wow, someoen is more paranoid than me
19:39 < aestetix> http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/tarpon-springs-neighbors-baffled-by-house-trees-covered-in-aluminum-foil/2231578
19:39 < PigBot`> Title: Tarpon Springs neighbors baffled by house, trees covered in aluminum foil | Tampa Bay Times (at www.tampabay.com)
19:39 < aestetix> RangerZ: no, absolutely not
19:40 < RangerZ> ohh I would have, just to use him as a an example, lol
19:40 < RangerZ> but nothing says you have to sign it with the SAME key
19:40 < RangerZ> that you use for other stuff
19:40 < aestetix> hmm
19:40 < aestetix> maybe I will do that just for lolz
19:41 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You should sign it with a key this Chinese kid sent me.
19:41 < _NSAKEY> If you want a random key that isn't yours.
19:41 < RangerZ> aestetix: actually, thats the real "secret" to PGP , you just need a different key per person you want to authenticate
19:41 < _NSAKEY> Or put the e-mail address for the key as something like, "director@nsa.gov."
19:41 < RangerZ> problem is.... keychains DO NOT like that ;)
19:41 < _NSAKEY> When you gen a new one.
19:42 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Do you collect other people's private keys as a habit?
19:42 < RangerZ> nope... I got a better one... support@broadbandhospitality.com
19:42 < _NSAKEY> The aforementioned Chinese kid got PGP wrong and sent me his private key.
19:42 < RangerZ> it will result in the email being sent to every employee of the company
19:42 < RangerZ> lol
19:42 < _NSAKEY> Then he wanted me to send him my "symmetric secret language" in return.
19:43 < _NSAKEY> I added his key to my keyring just for laughs and told him to nuke it.
19:43 < RangerZ> so out of curiosity, are there good solutions for keyrings now?
19:43 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: that happens a *lot*
19:44 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I just tell people to use OTR and STFU.
19:44 < aestetix> RangerZ: nothing that I know of ready for production
19:44 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I don't even understand HOW it happens.
19:44 < RangerZ> I only use SSH keys myself right now, and I just have a folder of them I keep
19:44 < _NSAKEY> Thunderbird + Enigmail makes that hard.
19:44 < _NSAKEY> Like, it's practically idiot-proof.
19:44 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: a lot of it is actually a reverse trap
19:44 < _NSAKEY> This guy was using an android phone to do PGP though, so I don't know.
19:45 < RangerZ> trying to get you to use a key (that they already have too)
19:45 < _NSAKEY> I try to avoid doing anything involving PGP.
19:45 < RangerZ> not sure 'why' they would want that with PGP
19:45 < RangerZ> but 'ehh'
19:45 < _NSAKEY> If e-mail has to be used, I'd prefer to use PGP over plain e-mail.
19:46 < _NSAKEY> But I'd rather move to something with forward secrecy and that's easier on the end users.
19:46 < RangerZ> I know a girl in NSA and CIA and I purposely do NOT talk to either of them about this kinda stuff
19:46 < aestetix> is she hot?
19:46 < RangerZ> actually yes, to both of them
19:46 < RangerZ> lol
19:46 < aestetix> nice
19:46 < _NSAKEY> I gave up on trying to get him to use PGP correctly and got him to use XMPP + OTR.
19:46 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I think aestetix wants a honey trap for Christmas.
19:47 < RangerZ> fuck that, if anyone is getting a honey trap out of them, I am
19:47 < RangerZ> lol
19:48 < _NSAKEY> You know you're just making their job easy by not using TLS, right?
19:48 < RangerZ> for what?
19:48 < _NSAKEY> Everything.
19:49 < RangerZ> -this- chat? ha... I don't care
19:49 < _NSAKEY> I'm of the opinion that plaintext and its supporters all need to die in a fire.
19:49 < _NSAKEY> IRC channels should be +z by default, etc.
19:49 < RangerZ> I'm not a 'supporter' , but I believe that it should be 'automatic' and not require any extra effort by me or anyone else
19:49 < RangerZ> b/c otherwise it won't get used
19:50 < RangerZ> thats kinda why I asked about keyring
19:50 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it should be as simple as possible.
19:50 < _NSAKEY> That's also why I'm all for OTR.
19:50 < RangerZ> I actually ran into that problem on android V8
19:50 < _NSAKEY> Aside from key fingerprint verification, OTR doesn't require a lot of effort.
19:50 < _NSAKEY> And that can be handled anywhere that's out of band.
19:50 < RangerZ> I wrote an encrypted "channel" for our middleware... but couldn't figure out how in the F.... to get keys to rotate/well... etc
19:52 < RangerZ> esp. for android v8, b/c v9 is when they added all the native support for keystores, etc, that ..."did something"... I forget offhand... but it was required for FIPS-140-2 , lol
19:59 < aestetix> ok so
19:59 < aestetix> I might not be up to date, but I think this is not how you're supposed to use pgp
20:00 < aestetix> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=rpasia%40wesleyan.edu&op=index
20:00 < RangerZ> is that new keys each day?
20:01 < RangerZ> thats actually not a 'bad' idea if you have a master signer cert... sorta making yourseelf a CA
20:01 < RangerZ> was sorta what I was alluding to
20:01 < aestetix> if that were the case then the keyid bitlength would be consistent
20:02 < RangerZ> no reason for that
20:02 < RangerZ> only bump it up when you feel like you need to
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22:13 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: What gets me is that some of them were explicitly revoked
22:13 <@Dagmar> _some_ of them
22:14 < RangerZ> nice
22:14 < RangerZ> didn't even notice
22:14 < RangerZ> but I didn't really look deep into it
22:14 <@Dagmar> Can someone explain to me why I just got a "Sorry, we are experiencing technical issues" message from COMCAST when visiting Slashdot?
22:15 < RangerZ> nope
22:15 < RangerZ> not me
22:15 <@Dagmar> IF I can reach imgur I'm about to post it
22:15 < RangerZ> its obviously their lvl 4 inspection malf. ;)
22:15 <@Dagmar> They shouldn't be fucking with my traffic to Slashdot
22:18 <@Dagmar> I can't get to Comcast's site either
22:18 < RangerZ> check your DNS
22:18 < RangerZ> see if thats it
22:18 <@Dagmar> I have reached 90% of my monthly data usage allowance apparently.
22:19 <@Dagmar> ...and Comcast can't math becaus ei'm at 165Gb
22:21 < RangerZ> "We're sorry, we can't load your equipment right now."
22:21 < RangerZ> does that mean they aren't counting my bits?
22:21 <@Dagmar> They're idiots
22:21 <@Dagmar> COmplete idiots
22:22 < RangerZ> b/c I'm pretty sure my mom watching netflix for like 5hrs a day....
22:22 < RangerZ> probably put me over the limit
22:22 <@Dagmar> I haven't gone over 200Gb in the last year and they are claiming I am at 271Gb
22:22 < RangerZ> lol
22:24 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I'm sitting over here with my beautiful TDS connection, with zero bandwidth caps and the ability to run my own server without any ISP drama.
22:24 < RangerZ> hahaha... its literally only 10$ to get 50 channels of cable tv and 15$ to get 140 channels
22:25 < RangerZ> still not worth it
22:31 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Getting a offshore VPS and torrenting what you want is always a better value.
22:31 < RangerZ> thats not even it, I don't even do that
22:31 < _NSAKEY> I had a VPS from a Hetzner reseller for years that got excellent speeds, but they went out of business.
22:32 < _NSAKEY> It was $5 a month.
22:32 < RangerZ> I just don't care for most american TV anymore
22:32 < _NSAKEY> For a few dollars more, I could have done Netflix, but then I'd still be chained to what they felt like offering.
22:32 < RangerZ> I would like to watch some soccer game every once in a while
22:33 < RangerZ> and the news
22:33 < RangerZ> but 'ehh'
22:35 < _NSAKEY> You can get rabbit ears for the news, and get better picture quality. (Not even trolling. Try it some time.)
22:35 < _NSAKEY> As for soccer games, don't know what to tell you there.
22:36 < RangerZ> I didn't mean local news
22:36 < RangerZ> yeah, I know
22:36 < RangerZ> I meant cable "news"
22:36 < RangerZ> but honestly thats not really worth it most of the time now, unless you want to know 'whats popular' (which has its merits, but still)
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