--- Log opened Fri May 22 00:00:55 2015
00:04 <@Dagmar> Well, he was definitely up to some questionable practices with that cigarette company
00:04 < RangerZ> like _even letting them be sold in the first place_
00:05 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I don't think the final turd has been dumped in the punch bowl yet.
00:06 <@Dagmar> Probably not
00:06 <@Dagmar> I don't think they would have announced anything if they weren't just convinced they could make one charge stick, but also that if they keep digging they'll find enough to drop more charges on him that they are at present merely suspicious about
00:07 < _NSAKEY> I hope they ruin him over the case where his cousin and a fellow deputy tied a guy down and pepper sprayed him...
00:07 < _NSAKEY> ... Then left him to sit there for over an hour.
00:09 <@Dagmar> This MAtthew Innman thing from Denver is pretty funny
00:10 <@Dagmar> It also explains a lot about Innman
00:11 < _NSAKEY> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2BMHIoAEwE
00:12 <@Dagmar> I think that should constitute a delony torture charge
00:13 <@Dagmar> s/delony/felony/
00:14 < _NSAKEY> The guy is suing in federal court, and he only wants $300,000.
00:14 < _NSAKEY> I'm pretty sure I would be demanding some ritual suicides.
00:15 <@Dagmar> You have to ask for something you think the judge can grant
00:15 <@Dagmar> Let's see how long it takes someone to notice the new loading messages I put into the local Enlightened Slack.
00:16 <@Dagmar> One of them is "Join the Resistance today!  DEFECTUM IS MIRABLE!"
00:16 <@Dagmar> s/IS/EST/
00:16 < _NSAKEY> True, but I still say the Romans had the right idea about that sort of thing.
00:16 < _NSAKEY> I get why we don't do it now, but there's a certain appeal to "Jam this sword through your stomach or we kill you anyway and then financially ruin your family."
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00:35 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: This one's just for you: http://gawker.com/jihad-me-at-hello-tinder-flirting-with-osama-bin-laden-1706038288
00:35 < PigBot`> Title: Jihad Me at Hello: Tinder Flirting With Osama bin Ladens Love Letters (at gawker.com)
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01:06 <@Dagmar> hehehe
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01:28 < RangerZ> https://imgur.com/gallery/Z3zZEAm
01:28 < PigBot`> Title: Julia Louis-Dreyfus on David Lettermans final episode - Imgur (at imgur.com)
01:28 < RangerZ> I didn't catch this live
01:28 < RangerZ> thats epic
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07:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:15 <@oddball> oh god! Netflix has Zombeavers!
10:17 < aestetix> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/21/uber-disability-laws-don-t-apply-to-us.html
10:17 < PigBot`> Title: Uber: Disability Laws Don’t Apply to Us - The Daily Beast (at www.thedailybeast.com)
10:18 <@Dolemite> oddball: Is that a good "oh god!" or a bad "oh god!" ???
10:18 <@oddball> I don't know... yet.
10:19  * oddball starts the "film"
10:19 <@Dagmar> Oh that's going to be LULSY when it gets in front of a judge
10:19 <@Dolemite> You'll have to let us know if it's even half as good as zombie nazis on flying sharks
10:22 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... Uber and Lyft keep trying to tell the powers that be that they're not cab companies... they just transport people from point a to point b in cars for money.
10:22 <@Evilpig> calling via wifi, good.  google hangouts ability to send sms via wifi, good.  hangouts ability to send mms via wifi, oops.
10:23 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: What did you end up going with?
10:23 <@Evilpig> they arent' a taxi, they're a car service
10:23 <@Evilpig> note 4
10:23 <@Evilpig> I played with several and this one ended up feeling better to me
10:23 <@Dolemite> You stick with Sprint or switch to T-Mobile?
10:24 <@Evilpig> stuck with sprint but I have 30 days
10:24 <@oddball> Evilpig: That's right... they're not a cab company.  They're just a company that happens to be exactly like a cab company.
10:24 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7j56vp9zmrlwu0t/Screenshot_2015-05-22-09-07-23.png?dl=0
10:24 <@Evilpig> they're an on demand car service
10:24 <@Evilpig> you can't just flag down an uber driver and get a ride like you can a cab
10:25 <@oddball> I... never thought I'd watch this movie legally.
10:25 <@Evilpig> I agree that the point is a technicality but it's there
10:26 <@oddball> So... they're a limo company.
10:26 <@Evilpig> car service
10:26 < aestetix> Nope
10:26 < aestetix> They are a technology company
10:27 <@oddball> and they've tried to dodge those regs as well.
10:27 < aestetix> They don't own any cars.
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10:36 <@oddball> So far, it's starting off like the typical 80's slasher flick.
10:36 <@oddball> complete with topless swimming hole scene.
10:37 <@Dolemite> It has to have a swimming hole.  That's obviously where the Zombeavers live.
10:42 <@oddball> And... there's the "I'm going to go investigate the strange noise by myself at night" scene.
10:43 <@Evilpig> don't forget the random redneck threatening teenagers with a shotgun, scene
10:46 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVuTmuFeWI&feature=youtu.be
10:50 <@oddball> Evilpig: oh, right
10:51 <@Evilpig> you can't have an 80s horror without the random scary dude threatening teenagers
10:52 <@oddball> and the almost shower scene.
10:54 <@oddball> aestetix: Wow... not something I would expect to have seen from the Huffington Post.
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11:27 <@oddball> "You've done this before, right?" "No ma'am, but I've seen it done on television many a time."
11:31 <@oddball> Flaming zombeaver!
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12:47 <@Evilpig> while this sucks, i'm glad at the same time.  
12:48 <@Evilpig> i've isolated the bad part in my new server
12:48 <@Evilpig> just a stick of bad ram
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13:03 < RangerZ> RMA?
13:04 < RangerZ> new/lifetime warrenty (RMA will require both/all sticks to be sent back
13:04 < RangerZ> which kinda sucks if thats all you have
13:05 <@Evilpig> I just emailed them about doing an advance replace because i'm in the first 30 days
13:05 <@Evilpig> using the argument of I can run the system off a single stick but I'm down if I have to send them both in for an RMA
13:14 <@oddball> heh... one of the gun bloggers I read dealing with the idea of black people owning guns: "Personally, I don't think black people should have a gun.  I think they should have three."
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13:53 <@Evilpig> well that was surprising..
13:54 <@Evilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs  <-- this song
13:54 <@Evilpig> and no probably nsfw
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15:05 <@Evilpig> oddball: weird al added a new date up here.  w00t!
15:05 <@Evilpig> and i've got nearly front row seats for it too
15:08 <@oddball> sweet
15:08 <@oddball> I'm going to see him tomorrow night
15:13 <@Evilpig> alright.  i'm off to the movies
15:13 <@Evilpig> later bitches
15:22 < RangerZ> it amazes me how people complain about not understanding something on an assignment when its covered in the videos before the assignment
15:23 < RangerZ> and say "ohh thanks, the videos were helpful" after being told to watch the _requried_ videos
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15:46 <@Dagmar> heh
15:47 <@Dagmar> Man... Joe Philly couldn't be catching more hell if he went on the Intel Report and ate a bagfull of live kittens
15:49 < RangerZ> ?
15:51 <@Dagmar> So... you know about the shard thing going on right now, right?
15:51 <@Dagmar> ...with Ingress?
15:52 <@Dagmar> Something like 41 total magic baubles on the playfield that jump from portal to portal along links every 12 hours
15:52 <@Dagmar> Each side has *one* portal they're supposed to round up as many as they can to.  At the moment, Enlightned in Los Angeles, and Resistance in Poland
15:52 <@Dagmar> Since this necessarily requires making links that run long distances, the people doing it are a little hardcore
15:53 <@Dagmar> The rest of us just engage in a little bribery to keep those fucking shards OUT of our cities
15:53 <@Dagmar> They're like the harbingers of chaos
15:54 <@Dagmar> Anyway, the Enlightened had been doing a good job of keeping one of the shards blocked from the direction the Res wantd to move it with a loong blocking link
15:54 <@Dagmar> One end of which was a "BGAN portal" (meaning inaccessible without a fuckin' satphone!) and the other end was one of those giant radio telescope antennas
15:55 <@Dagmar> The radio telescope antenna generally has tours, but not during _this_ season
15:55 <@Dagmar> So... Joe Philley decided that the portal was "seasonally inaccessible" and got it yanked from the game
15:56 <@Dagmar> ...and moments later threw two links to hold that lane open himself, and was followed by a half-dozen other smurfs.
15:56 <@Dagmar> Basically, Joe Philley, the community manager who is assumedly supposed to stay relatively impartial, _cheated like a mofo_
15:57 <@Dagmar> There has been *no* precedent for "seasonally unavailable" portals
15:57 <@Dagmar> Plus, since that was a major anchor portal a bunch of ENL had farmed up keys for, they're kinda pissed that those keys went *poof* when the portal was removed
15:58 <@Dagmar> ...and literally _everyone_ is pissed off about the sudden and very advantageous rule change
15:59 <@Dagmar> Most of the players know of a half dozen portals that fit that criteria, including some that are only accessible to employees of a company (UPS) and some that are only accessible to military personell.
15:59 <@Dagmar> Niantic's stance on it has _always_ been that if *anyone* can reach it at *any* time, and it's not (literally) a private residential area, it's a _good portal_
16:00 <@Dagmar> People on both sides are just plain furious with Joe at the moment LOL
16:00 <@Dagmar> (especially since that was a heavily ENL-controlled area, so even after cheating the ENL snatched the portal again and zergrushed the shard to LA)
16:00 <@Dagmar> er snatched the shard again
16:03 <@oddball> I don't suppose there's a chance that that will cause a rules change getting rid of those other portals?
16:03 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAH
16:03 <@oddball> I know... I'm silly.
16:03 <@Dagmar> Niantic is so underwater right now with that stuff
16:04 <@Dagmar> They actually took the portal submission feature out of the latest client
16:04 <@oddball> We've had this discussion before.  The folks that work at Niantic clearly have never encountered gamers.
16:04 <@Dagmar> It's been obvious they've been reducing the submission queue sizes with an RNG for a couple of months
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...and now THIS.  LOL
16:04 <@Dagmar> I'm not even kidding about the RNG
16:05 <@oddball> ha
16:05 <@Dagmar> The response I've gotten to edits/removal requests have been utterly random, with a heavy helping of 'NOPE'
16:05 <@oddball> So they've decided "fuck it, no new portals?"  Sucks for the folks going after that badge.
16:06 <@Dagmar> I think they're going to start using a G+ community to call for votes on new portal acceptance, since that's been more or less working with edit/removal appeals
16:06 <@Dagmar> ...but clearly they underestimated what the Seer badge would do
16:06 <@Dagmar> If you have 100 agents in one city, and they all attempt to submit 300 portals (because 250 gets you Seer)... that's 30,000 submissions
16:06 <@Dagmar> We figure they're looking at a backlog of slightly over a million submissions
16:07 <@Dagmar> ...and they've only got like 20-30 people working for them
16:07 <@oddball> Yeah
16:08 <@oddball> Of course, the flood of new portal requests should have been obvious when they set the number that high.
16:08 <@oddball> And the number of "my cat pooped here" new portal requests.
16:08 <@Dagmar> ...and the _lack of penalty_ or _redress_ for people submitting bullshit portals
16:09 <@Dagmar> A whole lot of factors are coming back to haunt Niantic right now
16:11 <@oddball> The answer would have been fairly obvious to me.  drastically lower the number of portals for the badge, and require time in between submissions... say, 1 a month or your previous request is no longer in queue, which ever time is longer.
16:11 <@oddball> Of course, at this point, they're stuck because of the folks that got the badge under the old rules bitching.
16:13 <@oddball> The time delay would mean no need to actively penalize the player, since another month or so of time without their shiny is a built in punishment.  Add on top of that, that rule would also keep the queue fairly low.
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16:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah they told people in December that Dec 31st was the last day submissions of portals would count towards the Seer badge
16:14 <@Dagmar> That didn't help
16:14 <@Dagmar> hehe
16:17 <@oddball> I love KnifeHQ commercials.  Also, I may need this knife... for reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e29RiBUvTxw
16:36 <@Dagmar> "So you woke up stupid this morning?"  lOOOOOL
16:45 <@sasquatc3> uggh, you know your architecture is horrible when it takes 10 words to name a function, i dont know how people work in that area of code
16:53 < RangerZ> sasquatc3: ?
17:01 < RangerZ> http://loremflickr.com/800/800/cats
17:01 < RangerZ> it will randomly pic an image H/W/TAG
17:02 <@oddball> Dagmar: I was thinking you'd enjoy that video.
17:02 <@oddball> For those that haven't seen it: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/man-holds-would-be-carjacker-gunpoint-until-police/nmL4Z/
17:02 < PigBot`> Title: Man holds suspected carjacker at gunpoint until police arrive | www.wsbtv.com (at www.wsbtv.com)
17:04 <@oddball> Also: black man holding white man at gun point... and the cops fail to shoot the black man.
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17:10 < RangerZ> http://www.housingwire.com/articles/33974-usps-now-one-step-closer-to-providing-financial-services
17:10 < RangerZ> man thats great news
17:11 < RangerZ> I'd fucking _LOVE_ to switch to USPS for banking
17:11 < RangerZ> an ATM at every post office nation wide, no withdrawal fees, a bank in every county nation wide, etc.
17:12 < RangerZ> when I found out the USPS  _stopped_ being a bank in the ... early 80s?/late 70s? I was a little pissed
17:13 < RangerZ> 1967*
17:32 <@Dagmar> oddball: You don't have to tell me it's not a race issue
17:41 < RangerZ> jesus... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/05/22/fact-check-clinton-secret-email-accounts/27802431/
17:41 < PigBot`> Title: Fact check: Clinton's 'secret' email accounts (at www.usatoday.com)
17:41 < RangerZ> fucking right wing outrage-media + people not knowing how email and email clients work
17:41 < RangerZ> PLUS the fact that she had to _print_ her emails to turn them in, not just hand over a HDD
17:42 < RangerZ> its like a cluster-fuck of stupidity
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17:51 < RangerZ> 272 .... "Synced open tabs are tabs that are currently open and configured to be synced in one of your synced Chrome browsers."
17:51 < RangerZ> wtf... I don't have _that_ many open tabs right now...
17:51 < RangerZ> I have 5
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18:12 <@sasquatc3> RangerZ, sry only an hour later, someone at work sent out an email about some issue with a function, the function name had 9 abbreviations of shit in it
18:12 <@sasquatc3> and it took 1 parameter, whose structure name had another 6 abbreviations in it
18:12 <@sasquatc3> i dont know how that team gets anything done
18:13 < RangerZ> lol
18:14 < RangerZ> thats the one really nice thing about java
18:15 < RangerZ> if you organize your package names nicely, you don't have that problem and at most 3 levels of names you ever have to deal with
18:15 < RangerZ> usually only 'current' +1
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18:49 < aestetix> fucking drunk germans singing outside my window
18:49 < aestetix> I guess it's better than ghetto fighting
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21:17 < RangerZ> http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/05/22/dungeon-travelers-2-ps-vita-trailer-details-basic-classes-mature-esrb-rating-explained/
21:17 < PigBot`> Title: Dungeon Travelers 2 PS Vita Trailer Details the Basic Classes, Mature ESRB Rating Explained (at www.playstationlifestyle.net)
21:17 < RangerZ> hahaha.... the ERSB rating for this game is probably the best "review" they could get for this niche genre
21:17 < RangerZ> lol
21:28 <@Dagmar> Is that the "erotic dungeon crawler" someone got drunk enough to think was a good idea?
21:28 < RangerZ> hey... they are going to make more money than either of us
21:28 < RangerZ> so don't mock them
21:28 < RangerZ> lol
21:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: two qquestions
21:33 < aestetix> 1. why was Rand Paul's thing only a partial filibuster
21:33 < aestetix> 2. why are they saying that Paul can block the vote on patriot?
21:34 < RangerZ> 1) he only spoke during time set aside for trade discussion already
21:34 < RangerZ> he didn't -actually- do anything meaningful
21:34 < aestetix> ahhhh
21:35 < RangerZ> 2) no clue
21:35 < aestetix> so when does the patriot act renewal come up for a vote?
21:35 < RangerZ> before june 1st
21:35 < RangerZ> it dies at 12:00
21:35 < RangerZ> well 0:00
21:35 < aestetix> so he basically did that to suck all the time away for other things, so that they would not have time to discuss the patriot act?
21:36 < RangerZ> nope
21:36 < RangerZ> it didn't impact anything
21:36 < RangerZ> just means less _debate_ on other topics
21:36 < RangerZ> what he CAN do now... who knows
21:36 < aestetix> so I guess he might actually filibuster when it is time to discuss it?
21:38 < RangerZ> thats wasting time too
21:38 < RangerZ> best to fillabuster when when time is -about to end-
21:39 < RangerZ> ohh it gets better
21:40 < RangerZ> fox news and cnn released their rules for the 2016 republican debates
21:40 < RangerZ> the -only- woman right now wouldn't even make it onto the stage on fox
21:40 < aestetix> there's a female GOP running?
21:40 < RangerZ> ex HP ceo carly ....whatever her last name is...
21:40 < aestetix> oh god
21:40 < RangerZ> and she would only be a '2nd night' debater on cnn
21:41 < RangerZ> since cnn will have 10 on first night, and 'rest' on 2nd night
21:41 < RangerZ> Carly Fiorina 
22:01 <@Dagmar> "Tell us why after running a large and successful company until it became a failing, also-ran company, you think we should allow you anywhere near the nation's economy."
22:02 < aestetix> That didn't stop Mitt Romney
22:03 <@Dagmar> Hollyfield is a *pussy*
22:03 <@Dagmar> A real American would have realized what good he could have done for the country with one full-force punch.
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23:00 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIq9f3kW1cA
23:00 < RangerZ> olbermann about that fight
23:00 < RangerZ> pretty funny
23:04 <@Dagmar> LOL
23:04 <@Dagmar> "A network for DOGS... on their PHONES..."
23:06 < _NSAKEY> The mobile internet: Where everyone knows you're a dog.
23:10 <@Dagmar> So apparently TdR is writing for Olbermann now
23:11 < aestetix> so
23:12 < aestetix> is bash sort quicksort? or another algorithm?
23:14 < RangerZ> TdR?
23:14 <@Dagmar> Theo de Raadt
23:14 < aestetix> so we can expect Olberman to be spewing profanity?
23:14 < RangerZ> nah he already did that
23:14 < RangerZ> but only off cameras
23:15 < RangerZ> lol
23:15 < RangerZ> but when you get 20$ million/yr for switching from MSNBC to Current
23:15 < aestetix> I'm running sort on a dataset that's about 150 megs and wondering if I will regret it
23:15 < RangerZ> -which- sort?
23:15 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Are you running it on a 86?
23:16 < aestetix> bash
23:16 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: yes
23:16 < RangerZ> -which- sort?
23:16 < _NSAKEY> *386
23:16 < _NSAKEY> 150 megs should go pretty quickly, unless you're using old or underpowered hardware.
23:16 < aestetix> sort (GNU coreutils) 5.93
23:17 < RangerZ> b/c any -decent- sort is MUCH faster than you would think
23:17 < RangerZ> especially merge sort
23:17 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Hardware?
23:17 < aestetix> 2 ghs intel core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ram
23:18 < _NSAKEY> should have prefaced with the "time" command.
23:18 < aestetix> yeah...
23:18 < aestetix> I'm piping awk into sort too
23:19 < aestetix> oh cool looks like it's almost done
23:19 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, not a surprise
23:19 < _NSAKEY> 150 megs isn't much.
23:19 < aestetix> and its done
23:19 < RangerZ> yes, it uses merge sort
23:20 < RangerZ> thats probably the best implementation possible for a default
23:20 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You should try sorting multi-gigabyte plaintext password dumps next.
23:20 < RangerZ> easiest to understand and not-F it up
23:20 < aestetix> that's why I was asking qbo
23:20 < aestetix> quicksort is slow as shit
23:20 < RangerZ> no it isn't
23:21 < aestetix> well
23:21 < aestetix> its not bubble sort
23:21 < RangerZ> quicksort is slowed down by cache hit/misses
23:21 < RangerZ> as all sorts are
23:22 < RangerZ> but its easy to make a 'worst case' for quick sort (reverse ordering IIRC)
23:22 < aestetix> well
23:22 < aestetix> it also depends on whether the dataset is presorted at all
23:23 < RangerZ> quick sort's biggest issue is its complexity which leads to less optimizations
23:23 < RangerZ> a merge/bucket hybrid approach is easy to 'combine'
23:23 < RangerZ> not so much with quick
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23:40 <@Catonic> aestetix: vagina
23:58 < aestetix> lol
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