--- Log opened Mon May 11 00:00:43 2015 01:40 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:11 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 03:11 < RangerZ1> https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/48913022 03:13 < RangerZ1> [ICQA Program DeveloperAmazon - US-TN-Murfreesboro • High School diploma or GED equivalent • Experience with Oracle - unix tools platform experience ] 03:13 < RangerZ1> so basically.... anyone in here 04:04 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:19 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywxjzujdczactkpc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:23 < aestetix> http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/29022915/tnt-academy-principal-under-fire-after-offensive-remarks 05:23 < PigBot`> Title: TNT Academy principal under fire after offensive remarks - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5 (at www.myfoxatlanta.com) 06:49 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx_Road 06:49 < PigBot`> Title: Zyzzyx Road - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 07:07 -!- rattle [~Rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:08 < RangerZ> now ISIS is telling us to use tunnels... geeze 08:09 < RangerZ> (well at least park our cars in the garage below the building... so that 'Institute for Space and Defense Electronics' can have a big meeting and have above ground parking 08:09 < RangerZ> lol 08:10 < RangerZ> I love seeing people's reactions to the two research inst. in the same building 08:10 < RangerZ> lol 08:15 <@Dolemite> https://www.reddit.com/r/Atlanta/comments/35gbja/someone_put_goatse_on_a_billboard_in_buckhead/?sort=confidence 08:15 < PigBot`> Title: reddit.com: over 18? (at www.reddit.com) 08:15 <@Dolemite> ermahgerd 08:15 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:22 < aestetix> https://imgur.com/5dWOEfv here is a ipicture of it 08:22 < PigBot`> Title: Someone put Goatse on a Billboard in Buckhead today - Imgur (at imgur.com) 08:29 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:06 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 09:07 < Synx|hm> Can somebody check the careers.asurion.com site and see if its up for me? 09:09 < Synx|hm> ive been getting timed out for weeks 09:19 <@Evilpig> http://careers.asurion.com/ 09:19 < PigBot`> Title: Jobs and careers at Asurion (at careers.asurion.com) 09:19 <@Evilpig> comes up fine for me 09:20 < Synx|hm> ya just tried from cell data, what the hell 09:20 < Synx|hm> dont see anything in my Snort logs 09:20 < Synx|hm> shrug 09:21 < Synx|hm> thanks! 09:23 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: is it pingable by chance? 09:24 <@Evilpig> PING careers.asurion.com (63.131.135.105) 56(84) bytes of data. 09:24 <@Evilpig> 64 bytes from 63.131.135.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=11.9 ms 09:24 <@Evilpig> --- careers.asurion.com ping statistics --- 09:24 <@Evilpig> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 16ms 09:24 <@Evilpig> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 11.915/11.915/11.915/0.000 ms 09:25 < Synx|hm> spanks 09:28 < Synx|hm> ack, nm found it in snort logs 09:28 < Synx|hm> (http_inspect) MULTIPLE ENCODINGS WITHIN JAVASCRIPT OBFUSCATED DATA 09:45 < aestetix> If a company extends a job offer to you, and then retracts it when you tell them about a medical condition, are they in the legal right? 09:46 <@oddball> In the US? I'd definitely talk to a lawyer. 09:47 < Synx|hm> yes you had better call saul 09:47 < Synx|hm> http://labor-employment-law.lawyers.com/job-hunting/promises-and-rescinded-job-offers.html 09:47 < aestetix> Note: this is a hypothetical 09:47 < aestetix> hahaha 09:47 < PigBot`> Title: Promises and Rescinded Job Offers (at labor-employment-law.lawyers.com) 09:47 < Synx|hm> however, US is employment at-will so my guess would be unless there was a contract its no foul though scummy 09:48 < aestetix> Synx|hm: no, that's a state level thing 09:48 < aestetix> That said, most states are at-will :/ 09:48 < Synx|hm> oh 09:49 < aestetix> oddball: I figure it's better to share the medical condition then, rather than agreeing and having it affect your work. 09:50 <@oddball> I know they can't offer a woman a job and then recend it when they learn she's pregnant. Don't know about, say, cancer. 09:51 < aestetix> I love how Americans have classed being pregnant as a medical condition 10:17 < Synx|hm> ear tubes who has experience? 10:17 < Synx|hm> have to make a decision in the next hour or so 10:20 <@oddball> Cronic ear infections? 10:21 < aestetix> getting the dick extracted? 10:21 <@oddball> ...that might cause an ear infection. 10:22 < Synx|hm> child has had 3 ear infections in 2 months, and is not allergic to some antibiotic 10:22 < Synx|hm> err is NOW allergic 10:22 <@oddball> ouch 10:22 <@oddball> I've known a few folks that had them when they were little. 10:23 < Synx|hm> he is fine for the past two weeks 10:23 < Synx|hm> however in 2 weeks we are flying with him to mexico and im terrified 10:24 <@oddball> One was a cousin that I grew up with. The only downside that I can remember is that she didn't learn to swim underwater until the tubes came out. 10:24 <@oddball> ah, tough decision. 10:34 < aestetix> Synx|hm: mexico? is it because of costs? 10:41 < Synx|hm> cancun 10:41 < Synx|hm> just because 10:42 <@Evilpig> damnit Synx|hm. I was just thinking about going to cancun myself 10:42 <@Evilpig> now you're telling me it will be infested with children? 10:42 < aestetix> Evilpig: selling some of your tumblr stock for fun and profit? 10:43 <@Evilpig> aestetix: I was thinking kidneys and all profit, no fun 10:46 <@Evilpig> this is a thing... http://www.royalpalmsshuffle.com/ 10:46 < PigBot`> Title: Royal Palms Shuffleboard Club (at www.royalpalmsshuffle.com) 10:48 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 10:58 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 10:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 11:00 <@Dagmar> Good example of why URLs should be scrutinized carefully before you name your business 11:07 <@Dagmar> Ohhh man 11:07 <@Dagmar> http://www.scrippsmedia.com/newschannel5/news/apartmentdeath-303253711.html 11:07 < PigBot`> Title: Woman's Death In Nashville Apartment Ruled A Homicide - NewsChannel5.com (at www.scrippsmedia.com) 11:07 <@Dagmar> "They did not say how exactly the woman died, but did say the cause was obvious." <-- chopped into pieces 11:07 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:07 <@Dagmar> "Officials would not get specific about the details of their investigation, but did say the body was in a condition they were calling 'suspicious trauma'." <-- again, chopped into pieces 11:08 <@Dagmar> "Investigators removed several bags of evidence from the apartment. Whatever was in those bags led them to believe the woman.s death was a result of foul play." <-- the woman 11:10 * oddball reads the story and slips a holstered gun onto his waist before going out. 11:14 <@Dagmar> hehe 12:02 <@Dagmar> I'm about to pull the drone out 12:03 <@Dagmar> THere's a helicopter circling somewhat low over here and it's not a police helicopter 12:03 <@Dagmar> This is rather annoying because it's been going on for 15 minutes now 12:03 <@Dagmar> Perhaps they should circle over the freaking woods, rather than the restdential area 12:14 < aestetix> fucking cat poop 12:55 <@benthemeek> some not so wise person opened a "invoice123.zip" this morning here... Now I have at least 2 dozen infections and more happening all the time 12:56 <@benthemeek> none of the virus scanners see it as bad 12:56 <@benthemeek> PITA 13:00 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: Time to shut down the network? 13:09 <@Evilpig> Dagmar, oddball: http://www.votealisonhendrix.com/ 13:09 < PigBot`> Title: Vote Alison Hendrix (at www.votealisonhendrix.com) 13:09 <@Evilpig> I know you two both watch orphan black 13:11 < aestetix> ahhahaha 13:11 < aestetix> that is awesome 13:35 <@Dagmar> Kinda not surprised 13:36 <@Dagmar> I do think it's funny tho 13:37 <@Dagmar> I also think that actress shoulld win some kind of award, even if it's merely for incredible endurance 13:50 < aestetix> wow Marc Andreeson basically just came out as a Nazi. 13:51 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/597816210185523200 13:51 < PigBot`> Title: Kevin Marks on Twitter: "“we’re not funding Mother Teresa. We’re funding imperial, will-to-power people who want to crush their competition.” @pmarca #autoGodwin" (at twitter.com) 13:53 < aestetix> That sounds to me like raw Nazi philosophy 14:09 <@Dagmar> No. 14:09 <@Dagmar> They're finally realizing that Twitter is not being used for what they intended 14:09 <@Dagmar> It is _regularly_ gamed by every PR firm and political action group imaginable 14:26 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:26 -!- Dickie [~Dickie@unaffiliated/dickie] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:26 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@unaffiliated/frsilent] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: CLansy 14:26 -!- frsilent_ [~frsilent@198.91.88.88] has joined #se2600 14:27 -!- Dickie [~Dickie@unaffiliated/dickie] has joined #se2600 14:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dickie] by ChanServ 14:27 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CLansy 14:35 -!- frsilent_ is now known as frsilent 14:36 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@198.91.88.88] has quit [Changing host] 14:36 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@unaffiliated/frsilent] has joined #se2600 14:37 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 14:38 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 15:17 <@Dagmar> This is kinda weird 15:17 <@Dagmar> Watching Supernatural, and the two leads are hanging out in an old church 15:17 <@Dagmar> Same church that featured prominently in The Walking Dead 15:18 <@Dagmar> The third person in the scenes: Lauren Cohan, also from THe Walking dead 15:19 < RangerZ> just wait for the cast of Fuller House to show up 15:19 < RangerZ> With lovable Uncle Jessie and all 15:19 < RangerZ> lol 16:09 <@Evilpig> hahahah they have cold showers in the NY office right now 16:09 <@Evilpig> some might say that's appropriate 16:17 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:42 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:1:8940:78:f873:3eb9:f4c1:17e4] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:44 < RangerZ> I would just like to have _showers_ at my work 16:45 < RangerZ> would make it nice to go riding my bike the ~30min to work ... and NOT form puddles at my desk when I get there... 16:47 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:12 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: you can get up from your desk to goto the bathroom. you don't have to make puddles at your desk 17:13 <@Evilpig> if your manager isn't giving you appropriate breaks to use the facilities you should speak to your HR rep 17:14 < RangerZ> ohh thats obviously not the problem, they gave us empty plastic milk jugs for our 3 minute facilities break each day 17:14 <@Evilpig> god I hope you don't need a #2. if that's the case you must be eating a ton of white castle and taco hell 17:15 < RangerZ> nope, indian curry 17:16 < RangerZ> actually tried some recently 17:16 < RangerZ> the 'most mild' they had 17:16 < RangerZ> still too spicy for me, lol 17:16 < RangerZ> and... it just didn't have a good flavor... :/ 17:17 < RangerZ> it wasn't that it was too -hot-, just that it was a lot of spices together that I didn't think made a good flavor 17:35 <@Dagmar> Asians have different taste buds 17:53 < aestetix> Ok RangerZ mr economics 17:53 < aestetix> Can you explain to me why you have to pay to get your credit score? 17:55 <@Dagmar> Because you've apparently forgotten that you can have that report sent for free a couple times a year 17:55 < aestetix> Does the report include the score? 17:56 <@Dagmar> As far as I know, yes 17:56 < aestetix> example 17:56 < aestetix> https://www.annualcreditreport.com 17:56 < PigBot`> Title: Annual Credit Report.com - Home Page (at www.annualcreditreport.com) 17:56 < aestetix> click on request 17:56 < aestetix> "Your free annual credit report does not include credit scores" 17:57 <@brimstone> correct 17:57 <@brimstone> it is just a report ABOUT your cred 17:57 <@brimstone> credit 17:57 <@Dagmar> Contact the big three directly. 17:57 <@Dagmar> Anyway, the "score" is fucking worthless 17:57 < aestetix> Dagmar: they make you pay 17:57 <@Dagmar> It's not an indicator of credit-worthiness, it's an indicator of _profitability_ to a lender 17:57 <@brimstone> seems like most people believe the score is worth something though 17:58 <@Dagmar> That's becuase they foolishly believe that system is there to help them 17:58 <@brimstone> most people being apartments in this case 17:58 <@brimstone> if not others 17:58 <@Dagmar> ...because normally it would be a big federal issue to keep detailed financial records on every man, woman, and child in existence 17:59 <@Dagmar> Oh they're not looking at the score either 17:59 < aestetix> I really wish someone would log in and delete all the records they have. 17:59 <@brimstone> t-mobile looks at the score 17:59 <@Dagmar> They're looking to see what your existing liability is 17:59 < aestetix> Why does t-mobile need that shit? 17:59 <@brimstone> they sent me a letter with my score once 17:59 <@brimstone> the whole credit system is all messed up 17:59 <@Dagmar> When you sign a lease you're signing a finance obligation 17:59 <@Dagmar> You are, in effect, taking out a loan 18:08 < _NSAKEY> I agree with aestetix. They should rm -rf everything. 18:08 < _NSAKEY> And I do mean EVERYTHING. 18:12 < aestetix> I'm having another "fuck the united states" moment 18:14 < aestetix> Apparnetly my credit is shit because I've never had a credit card 18:16 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:18 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@12.178.8.2] has joined #se2600 18:19 <@Dagmar> You do not represent a profit to credit agencies, therefore your credit score is zero 18:20 <@Dagmar> You ara however, richer than about 60% of the US being that you have no debt 18:20 <@Dagmar> That simply being _not underwater_ puts one above the 50% line in the US is a pretty terrible thing 18:22 <@Dagmar> It represents rather solidly that corporations, not US citizens, control the majority of the wealth in this country 18:22 <@rhia> but hey, at least the banking CEO's are still rolling in money! 18:22 <@Dagmar> It's a shame wooden stakes don't work on corporations as well as they do the other kind of vampires 18:23 <@rhia> but, but, aren't corporations people? wooden stakes can kill plain old people, too, not just vampires, right? 18:24 <@Dagmar> Corporations do not have a soul. 18:24 <@Dagmar> Corporations can never die. 18:24 <@rhia> but, but, Corporations are People, too! Mitt Romney told us so! 18:24 <@Dagmar> Corporations may elect to bury themselves underground for years on end, only to be resurrected at a future point in time by their most devout adherents. 18:24 <@Dagmar> Corporations are _vampires_. 18:25 <@rhia> Carly made a damned fine effort at trying to kill HP 18:25 <@Dagmar> eheh 18:26 <@Dagmar> We need her to take on the GOP next 18:29 < aestetix> Dagmar: I actually do have debt, but it's 100% in the form of student loans. 18:29 <@Dagmar> So basically, you're now an indentured servant to an immortal undead 18:30 < aestetix> Well one of the nice things about Germany, is that they don't recognize American credit 18:30 <@Dagmar> That's okay. The lender will wait 18:30 < aestetix> heh 18:42 < _NSAKEY> That's true. 18:43 < _NSAKEY> And you can never, ever get out from under student loan debt. 18:43 < _NSAKEY> You can't even file bankruptcy on it. 18:44 <@Dagmar> It's a permanent obligation, not really any different than an indentured servitude agreement. 18:44 <@Dagmar> The only way to end it is to pay it off, or die. 18:44 < aestetix> But yeah. I have never had a credit card, and I only have student loans. 18:44 <@Evilpig> damnit. need to get the radiator in the white truck flushed. dude at the oil place said it had dirt in it. which I totally believe since I've had the truck nearly 10 years and I don't recall it ever being flushed 18:44 < aestetix> Apparently in American logic, thta means I'm fucked 18:45 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: So when are you going to renounce your citizenship? 18:48 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: it's actually kind of expensive to do that. 18:48 < aestetix> And that would mean I could never come back. 18:49 < _NSAKEY> But... No American taxes... Ever again. 18:53 < aestetix> Jesus the japanese are fucked up 18:53 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMVm0fCX6LE&feature=youtu.be 18:57 <@Evilpig> MAN! primus is completing their chocolate factory tour and they're having a special date in vegas with clutch. 19:07 -!- v4mp [~v4mp@unaffiliated/v4mp] has joined #se2600 19:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 20:03 -!- _Catonic_ [~catonic@adsl-98-83-122-145.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:03 -!- Catonic__ [~catonic@adsl-98-83-125-48.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16 < RangerZ> aestetix: because your "credit score" is NOT a legal requirement, it is a (set of 3) private companies who keep track of your credit 20:17 < RangerZ> because it is a private company, they can do whatever they want. 20:17 < RangerZ> unless you WANT the government to track your credit history too? 20:17 < aestetix> RangerZ: that's like asking "should I stick my dick in your mouth or your ass" 20:18 <@Evilpig> one then the next? 20:19 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So, if I started collecting detailed financial informaiton on my neighbors, how would htat be viuewed? 20:19 <@Evilpig> creepy 20:20 < RangerZ> Dagmar: legal 20:20 < RangerZ> as long as the info is public 20:22 < RangerZ> there was actually a company doing that in 2008~2009, and figuring out who was going to go bankrupt in a neighborhood, and then offering to pay off their mortgage (by buying it from the bank for pennies on the dollar, and then owning the house) 20:22 <@Dagmar> So, if all that information is public, why is it htat credit reports are restricted to companies who require permission, and the subject twice a year? 20:22 <@Dagmar> That information _isn't_ public 20:22 <@Dagmar> It would generally be considered _stalking_. 20:22 < RangerZ> it worked_really_ well, but when the news caught wind of it... they had to stop b/c of public pressure b/c people thought it was creepy 20:23 < RangerZ> Dagmar: so? US business law _requires_ companies be creepy if it means they can make more money 20:23 < RangerZ> LOL 20:24 < RangerZ> also, I'm pretty sure it is NOT illegal to have someone's credit score without having their permission, it IS illegal to fake their signature to try and get the credit company to give it to you 20:24 < RangerZ> but _possession_ itself is legal AFAIK 20:25 < RangerZ> splitting legal hairs here... but its technically correct, the best kind of correct 20:25 < RangerZ> LOL 20:26 < RangerZ> b/c some companies are requiring applicants give the company permission to check their credit history, as a stipulation for hiring 20:26 < RangerZ> which is BS IMHO 20:26 < RangerZ> but 'legal' 20:27 <@Dagmar> THey're also _required_ to inform the applicant if they change their stance on hiring as a result of that information 20:27 < RangerZ> just like how in ohio, its legal to not hire/fire people who smoke 20:28 < RangerZ> john deere gave all its employees 1yr to quit 20:28 < RangerZ> then you'd be laid off 20:32 <@Evilpig> just got some spam and this was the entire body of the message 20:32 <@Evilpig> mage.jpg"> 20:43 < aestetix> wait 20:44 < aestetix> why would you not hire someone who has a bad credit score 20:44 < aestetix> wouldn't thye need to get a job so they can actually pay their debts? 20:45 <@Evilpig> some people have shit credit because they are irresponsible 20:45 < aestetix> isn't that what references from past jobs are for? 20:45 < RangerZ> aestetix: better question: 20:46 < RangerZ> if you CAN legally do it, why not? there is such a bounty of people applying for the same jobs b/c we have such under-employment in the US.. 20:47 < aestetix> well I guess it won't make the ex-cons feel quite as discriminated against 20:47 < aestetix> or pregnant women 20:47 < aestetix> or black people 20:47 < aestetix> or anarchival 20:48 <@brimstone> or aestetix 20:48 <@brimstone> or brimstone 20:50 * Evilpig shuns brimstone 20:50 * aestetix fires brimstone 20:51 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Mainly, what they want isn't bad credit. It's "good" credit. It's someone who has a debt liability that they take seriously enough that they will work *extra* hard not to lose their job for 20:51 <@Dagmar> Basically, they want an employee they can hold the possibility of bankruptcy and foreclosure over. 20:51 <@Dagmar> ...which is why it's _entirely_ illegal for them to discriminate against someone with "bad" credit without telling them why. 21:13 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:27 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:37 <@Evilpig> ebay and facebook team up to creep me out. https://www.dropbox.com/s/arn8po7165smd22/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-11%20at%209.36.25%20PM.png?dl=0 21:53 <@Evilpig> anyone awake and familiar with snmpv3 that i can pick your brain? 22:56 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@12.178.8.2] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:59 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:14 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:39 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-WupVggrHU 23:39 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-WupVggrHU 23:40 < RangerZ> (wondered if PigBot didn't like HTTPS) lol 23:59 < RangerZ> Dagmar: something odd just happened... I got an android project to work 100% the way It should 23:59 < RangerZ> lol --- Log closed Tue May 12 00:00:44 2015