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03:07 < RangerZ> umm.... coursera.... don't offer me courses _where I have been staff_
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07:35 <@Dolemite> So apparently Skydog is getting married this weekend.
07:36 <@Dolemite> I guess his resolve of never getting married, again, has broken down
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07:56 < aestetix> Will that make his wife Skybitch?
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08:50 <@Dolemite> You should ask him that question.  In person.
09:01 < aestetix> ok so
09:04 < aestetix> fuck me
09:05 < aestetix> an hour of troubleshooting wasted
09:05 < aestetix> I kept tryin to figure out why every time I wanted to import a database dump to mysql, the database died
09:05 < aestetix> turned out the max_packet_size setting was not configured properly
09:11 < aestetix> It would be nice if mysql actually gave an error, instead of dying.
09:11 < aestetix> Nothing even in the error logs.
09:17 <@Evilpig> that's hilarious about skydick
09:17 < RangerZ> where is the fun i nthat?
09:18 <@Evilpig> someone do my dishes and bring me a pair of shorts before the house keeper gets her
09:18 <@Evilpig> here*
09:18 < RangerZ> "house keeper"
09:19 < RangerZ> professional dominatrix I bet
09:19 <@Evilpig> i'll take that bet
09:22 < aestetix> If you wanted to be mean you could post rumors that his new wife was born a man
09:45 < RangerZ> not really that mean
09:46 < RangerZ> besides, just saying that makes you an asshole, lol
09:52 < RangerZ> http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/desperate-residents-of-austin-completely-surrounded-by-texas
09:52 < PigBot`> Title: Desperate Residents of Austin Surrounded by Texas - The New Yorker (at www.newyorker.com)
09:52 < RangerZ> hahaha
09:52 < RangerZ> In recent days, Austin has made desperate requests for assistance to the U.S. military, which will be conducting exercises in Texas in July.
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10:11 <@oddball> "the military has denied aid under the premise of "you knew what you were getting into when you moved down there."
10:15 < RangerZ> you know who I feel the worst for
10:16 < RangerZ> those families that lived in mexico and then Texas took over their land
10:17 < RangerZ> and now texas is messing up their cattle grazing lands by putting alligator filled electric motes, fences and sniper turrets up along their southern property border
10:23 < RangerZ> http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-s-new-membership-service-will-bridge-3ds-/1100-6427193/ oddball Evilpig
10:23 < PigBot`> Title: Nintendos New Membership Service Will Bridge 3DS, PC, Smart Devices, NX With Single Login - GameSpot (at www.gamespot.com)
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10:30  * benthemeek checks his facebook
10:30 <@oddball> It's a trap!
10:31 <@benthemeek> I think SkyDog is at someone else's wedding with his gf. Not his own
10:31 <@benthemeek> At least that is how the initial evidence presents itself
10:32 <@oddball> He's at someone's wedding with the groom's gf?  I knew he was a jackass, but...
10:34 < aestetix> benthemeek: msg
10:39 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: Ah, gotcha.  This morning there weren't any comments on the picture he's tagged in to explain it. ;)
10:42 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  what is this?  http://concerts.livenation.com/event/00004E9CC2DB8EA6?c=EML_LN_626448&camefrom=EMLN_626448
10:42 < PigBot`> Title: Tickets | The Princess Bride: An Inconceivable Evening With Cary Elwes - Westbury NY at Live Nation Concerts (at concerts.livenation.com)
10:42 <@Evilpig> there we go.  kinda neat.  http://www.njpac.org/events/detail/the-princess-bride-an-inconceivable-evening-with-cary-elwes
10:42 < PigBot`> Title: New Jersey Performing Arts Center :: The Princess Bride NEW DATE (at www.njpac.org)
11:01 < aestetix> vagina
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11:18 <@benthemeek> _NSAKEY: did you see that you appear in the background on the pic here? http://www.nashville2600.org/
11:18 < PigBot`> Title: Nashville 2600 - Our Mission (at www.nashville2600.org)
11:19 < RangerZ> tower of sauron?
11:19 <@benthemeek> heh
11:21 <@benthemeek> Decided to take a shot of what would probaly be our last J&Js meeting
11:21 <@benthemeek> almost all of us paid 14 for parking. It was insane
11:21 < RangerZ> suckers
11:21 <@Evilpig> ^
11:21 < RangerZ> should pay 40$/mo for parking
11:21 < RangerZ> and be done with parking
11:22 < RangerZ> lol
11:22 <@benthemeek> Master, teach thy student the ways of nashville parking
11:23 <@benthemeek> If NLUG starts being a pay thing I am going to have something out
11:23 <@benthemeek> to figure*
11:23 <@benthemeek> Those were the only times I would go to Nashville a month
11:26 < RangerZ> Vandy parking
11:26 < RangerZ> there is a lot less than 2min walk from JJs
11:26 <@benthemeek> rumor is the East garage is about to start charging
11:27 <@Evilpig> is noshville charging now too?
11:28 < aestetix> where is Bahhumbug
11:28 <@Evilpig> you ran him off
11:28 <@oddball> Evilpig: The parking lot behind them is.
11:28 < aestetix> aww
11:31 <@Evilpig> can someone try to hit my plex please?
11:31 <@Evilpig> I just turned on the new shit and making sure everything is functioning
11:35 <@oddball> Watching Black Lagoon now off of your box.
11:35 <@Evilpig> excellent.  thx oddball
11:35 <@Evilpig> I just hit it with transformers and it spun right up as well
11:35 <@Evilpig> top - 18:09:35 up 1 day, 14:13,  1 user,  load average: 1.57, 0.51, 0.42
11:35 <@Evilpig> soooooo much better
11:35 <@oddball> I need to remember to come back to that.  Rewatching Leverage at the moment.
11:36 <@Evilpig> i'll think about moving plexwatch over.  it was nice to get stats from
11:36 <@oddball> cool
11:37 <@Evilpig> or i'll just leave it where it is and repoint the ip like an intelligent person. 
11:37 <@oddball> heh
11:38 <@Evilpig> w00t!  all that's left to do is down this later and move it to the server cart onto the battery backup
11:45 <@Evilpig> lol
11:45 <@Evilpig> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/fashion/the-met-gala-a-red-carpet-review.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=mini-moth&region=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below
11:46 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: I still maintain that we should have done something like this for the J&J's picture: http://i2.cdnds.net/14/46/618x347/street-fighter.jpg
11:46 <@Evilpig> so... that picture.  the awkward scruffy white dude on the right?  yeah.. that's our CEO david karp
11:47 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: If you want the eye of sauron, you should go to Lipscomb.
11:47 < _NSAKEY> I literally followed a guy who looked like Gandalf with a top hat through the campus to the business center where bsides was held.
11:48 < _NSAKEY> This was along the route: https://twitter.com/_NSAKEY/status/586937306851835905
11:48 < PigBot`> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "I feel like the eye of sauron is the only thing missing. Here there be orcs. http://t.co/PR5TDxRMtd" (at twitter.com)
11:48 < RangerZ> 'want' and 'recognize' are two different things
11:50 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: what were you watching the other day when I messaged you?
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13:20 < aestetix> Does it make sense for someone to hire you because you have more experience than them, and then get upset because you do things differently than them?
13:20 < aestetix> (doing them differently because of experience)
13:37 <@Dagmar> Fuck me
13:37 <@Dagmar> So earlier this week I had an interview where they showed me part of an init script and asked me to tell them what it does
13:38 <@Dagmar> I completely forget about some of the things I write.  I should have just pulled out the Minecraft init script and said "I think this should assuage your fears about whether or not I know what I'm doing."
13:38 <@oddball> aestetix: Makes sense? no.  Common? yes.
13:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Get inside their head so you know why they made their design decisions, and then politely explain to them why your decisions happened differently and how you believe your method is optimal.
13:40 <@Dagmar> THat stuff is on the border where science meets art.  Of course there's going to be different apporoaches to problem solving..
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13:54 < aestetix> God.
13:56 < aestetix> Dagmar: yep
13:59 < aestetix> I have been getting yelled at a lot lately, even though I remain calm and polite.
14:00 < aestetix> I suspect they have other stuff going on and are projecting.
14:00 <@Dagmar> Are these people native German speakers?
14:00 < aestetix> Nope. Americans.
14:00 <@Dagmar> They might not be "yelling" as much as it sounds like
14:00 < aestetix> (it's my remote gig)
14:00 <@Dagmar> Ah well
14:01 < aestetix> Americans suck at handling stress, and work too many hours.
14:02 < aestetix> Everything I do has a reason behind it. It might not be a reason you like, but there is a reason nonetheless :)
14:02 <@oddball> yep
14:02 <@Dagmar> Please explain Metro's "game night traffic managment"
14:04 <@oddball> Oh, the whole "we're going to close off streets to try to funnel traffic out of downtown when the game ends?"
14:04 < aestetix> http://mashable.com/2014/04/30/programming-sucks/
14:04 < PigBot`> Title: Programming Isn't Manual Labor, But It Still Sucks (at mashable.com)
14:04 <@oddball> It's pretty convenient if you're one of the attendees of the game.  I can see it being a pain in the ass if you're downtown for other reasons.
14:04 <@Dagmar> "OUt" of downtown?
14:05 <@Dagmar> Oh I wish they did that
14:05 <@Dagmar> Get anywhere near the stadium and you get routed _through_ the stadium parking lot
14:05 <@oddball> That's what happened last couple times I was at a hockey game
14:05 <@Dagmar> You can't drive down Broadway and go past it... you get blocked and redirected.
14:06 <@Dagmar> I learned very quickly that If I wanted to get to the Rutledge in less time than it takes to park at the stadium and walk the rest of the way, that I needed to circle around Downtown and get off the interstate somewhere on the north side of it all and work my way back towards 4th
14:07 <@oddball> ah
14:07 <@Dagmar> The only way out of the parking lot, hilariously, is _back onto the goddamn interstate_
14:07 <@Dagmar> They won't let you take a left out of there to go back towards 4th
14:07 <@oddball> Oh, I saw that Voltaire is playing Sunday night.  I'd go, but I'm guessing I'm going to be too tired after going to the ren faire with Naienko's mom.
14:09 <@Dagmar> Not to be judgemental but the rennies are the reason I won't be going to goth stuff tonight
14:10 <@Dagmar> If they want to give me looks because I show up in black and they think I'm "in the wrong kind of costume" then the same fucking thing applies to them showing up to goth night in something that merely has some lace on it
14:10 <@oddball> I... must have missed something.
14:11  * aestetix sighs
14:11 < aestetix> Why are people so angry? Why do they take things personally.
14:11  * aestetix shrugs
14:12 <@Dagmar> oddball: Every year when Renfest is in town, they flood the goth nite events
14:13 <@Dagmar> So in addition to our few overweight and poorly-dressed goths, we get a bunch of sweaty people wearing body-type inappropriate battered velvet thift shop nonsense
14:14 <@Dagmar> It's not an opportunity for "fancy dress".  It's an opportunity for "fancy GOTHIC dress"
14:14 <@Dagmar> Just because it has a bustier component doesn't mean it's gothic
14:15 <@Dagmar> Also my personal un-favorite...  just because some velvet is crushed velvet doesn't mean all velvet is
14:15 <@Dagmar> If the dress you're wearing wasn't "crushed velvet" when it was sewn, then it's current state is more appropriately referred to as "ruined", or at least "unforgiveably wrinkled"
14:16 <@Dagmar> Yes, I am a bit of a fashion snob when it comes to goth stuff
14:17 <@Mirage> ^s/when it comes to goth stuff//g
14:24 <@Dagmar> "Hygiene" issues aside, we're all aware they spent all day in the hot sun wearing a bunch of thick velvet
14:24 <@Dagmar> The smell isn't strong enough to be unforgiveably offensive.
14:24 <@Dagmar> It's a matter of _goths do not spend all day in the sun._
14:27 <@oddball> Yeah... you'd think that they'd take their chance to get out of the outfits that they stood outside in all day.
14:28 <@Dagmar> It's the flagrant evidence of non-gothness that's a bigger problem than the level of accoutrement disrepair
14:30 <@rattle> Dagmar: You were never to what we referred to as "dead girls night" in NYC, were you..
14:30 <@Dagmar> Nope
14:30 <@rattle> This is sad.
14:30 <@Dagmar> Sounds interesting tho
14:36 <@rattle> If you want goth scene, it's sorta the mecca you face.  Albion/Batcave@Downtime.  ~200 30th St, NYC.  Every Saturday, 11pm-4am.  Been in existence longer than I remember..
14:36 <@Dagmar> You had me at "Batcave"
14:37  * rattle waves his cape across his front.
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15:30 <@Mirage> It always makes me cringe when I see this in software install documentation "Note: turn off your firewall using iptables -F command."
15:35 <@Dagmar> ugh
15:51 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  tuned into the allteam meeting and I see baseball caps showing hte new logo.  wonder if this means i'll be getting a new hat soon
15:57 < aestetix> Ask for underwear with the logo on it
15:57 < aestetix> Mirage: does -F mean force?
15:57 < aestetix> oh jesus
15:57 < aestetix> flush
15:58 < aestetix> that's terrible
16:17 <@Mirage> aestetix: hence the cringing
16:34 <@Dagmar> Decisions, decisions
16:34 <@Dagmar> so, I've got three widgets, each with essentially a nine-digit display
16:35 <@Dagmar> Becuase I would rather things work, the views used by the displays of the widgets all have different IDs
16:35 <@Dagmar> All three widgets use the same logic to determine what to display, based on a very small number of ints
16:36 <@Dagmar> Can't decide if it's even worth it to break them out into their own class
16:38 <@Dagmar> I'd have to pass an array of ints representing the digit Ids, as well as a reference to the view...
16:38 <@Dagmar> Hrmm
16:44 <@Dagmar> Well, I know this much.  I'm not copypastaing this shit a second tie
16:44 <@Dagmar> er time
16:44 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckmyh29nkvtr9sl/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-08%20at%204.37.57%20PM.png?dl=0
16:46 <@Dagmar> Looks like static void renderPracticaltime(RemoteViews views, long relevantTime, int[] displayFields, int[] digits, int label_hour, int label_minute, int label_second, int colon) it is
16:47 <@Dagmar> Three classes doing the same shit is probably one more than I need to justify the jump
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17:12 <@RangerZ> ok... I gotta admit... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998052 this is pretty clever
17:12 < PigBot`> Title: StarTech S25SLOTR 2.5in SATA Removable Hard Drive Bay for PC Expansion Slot - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com)
17:14 <@Dagmar> "50,000+ insertion ratin'"
17:14 <@eryc> that's a lot of penetration
17:15 <@eryc> i mean
17:15 <@eryc> that's a lot of penetrati'n
17:15 <@Dagmar> penetratin'
17:15 <@Dagmar> We knew you grew up here.  Don't pretend you don't know hot to type with a southern accent.
17:16 <@eryc> i can blend
17:16 <@eryc> i can be a slackjawed yocal when i need to
17:16 <@Evilpig> seems like a neat way to hide a drive
17:16 <@Dagmar> y-o-k-e-l
17:16 <@eryc> *yokel
17:17 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: You mean as opposed to just squirreling it away inside the drive enclosure?  ;)
17:17 <@Dagmar> I wasn't _trying_ to hide those drives
17:17 <@Evilpig> i'm giving them credit.  hiding a drive in a pci slot is rather engenius
17:17 <@Evilpig> not particularly useful, but creative
17:18 <@Evilpig> if it was a drawing from a kid i'd hang it on the fridge 
17:18 <@Dagmar> Actually in this case I think it's a good idea because it means you can have hot-swappable drives in your case without them being in the front of your rack mount stuff or needing to have a slot there at all
17:18 <@RangerZ> even on a home PC, gives you the ability to swap drives if needed to transfer VERY large files, etc
17:19 <@RangerZ> you know... something about the bandwidth of a stationwagon driving down the road, etc.
17:19 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking about instances where local node storage would/could be useful, but doesn't require RAID 5 or similar
17:19 <@Dagmar> Like if you needed to add local cache storage to something
17:20 <@RangerZ> or you are going to be using it for pulling files off HDDs
17:20 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps a place to dump long-running profiling data or trace operations
17:20 <@RangerZ> and condensing/etc to a NAS
17:21 <@RangerZ> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998184&cm_re=syba_hdd_bay_5.25%22-_-17-998-184-_-Product this is nice too fits in 5.25" bays, does 2.5" and 3.5" (insert jokes here, etc)
17:21 < PigBot`> Title: 5.25 Dual Bay Mobile Rack for both 2.5 and 3.25 SATA HDD, Plus 2 USB 3.0 Ports - Newegg.ca (at www.newegg.ca)
17:21 <@RangerZ> they get a gold star for just 'features in a limited space'
17:21 <@RangerZ> lol
17:21 <@Dagmar> ...or hell, just a place to have the OS drive in the back so someone can't accidentally yank it by mistake trying to hot swap the spanned storage in the front
17:22 <@RangerZ> ^hadn't thought about it... but makes sense....
17:22 <@Dagmar> If you find one that converts SDcards or microSD cards to IDE/PATA let me know
17:22 <@RangerZ> you want the one on my desk?
17:22 <@RangerZ> let me look to make sure
17:23 <@Dagmar> I've seen some chinese models that did it with varying degrees of functionality.  Some that would take paired cards and stripe storage, span it, or present a master/slave configuration depending on jumpers
17:24 <@RangerZ> yeah I have one I got from geeks.com WAYYYY back in the day that I never used
17:24 <@Dagmar> Being that I have a service firewall whose primary power consumption is the spinning 5200RPM disk (7200 RPM almost categorically produces too much heat in that space) I'm hoping one will cross my paths
17:24 <@Dagmar> er path
17:25 <@Dagmar> I should really just look into replacing the thing entirely since I'm apparently not ever going to sit down and coerce the ATI (nerd)RAGE Pro chipset into doing something
17:25 <@Dagmar> The video chipset is so stupid that it doesn't even have DDC/EDID information
17:26 <@Dagmar> Has no idea what modes it's even caaable of until you tell it.
17:26 <@Dagmar> er capable
17:26 <@RangerZ> huh... interesting
17:26 <@Dagmar> I tried to pull those tables to see... all zeros.  _By design_
17:26 <@RangerZ> I guess this is internal USB2 powered
17:26 <@RangerZ> but it comes with a PATA cable...
17:26 <@Dagmar> In about _four goddamn days_ of digging around, I could go find the stuff necessary to inject the information manually, but fuck it
17:27 <@Dagmar> It's too much trouble on a platform that maxes out at 512Mb RAM
17:28 <@RangerZ> lol... yeah
17:28 <@RangerZ> hell a RaPi has more now
17:28 <@RangerZ> 1gb -_-
17:28 <@Dagmar> Next time I'll just drill some holes and VESA-mount a cheap monitor onto the side of a damn micro-ATX case
17:28 < aestetix> http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2015/05/07/a-new-record-for-s-f-rents-3458-a-month/
17:28 < PigBot`> Title: A new record for S.F. rents: $3,458 a month - On The Block (at blog.sfgate.com)
17:29 < aestetix> god damn
17:30 <@RangerZ> what surprises me is that no one has built a skyrise
17:30 <@RangerZ> i'm sure its b/c of zoning/etc
17:30 <@RangerZ> but a MASSIVE building with 1000s of units would actually help the situation
17:30 <@Dagmar> It is.
17:30 <@Dagmar> Everywhere zoned for that is too expensive to develop
17:30 <@Dagmar> I saw an article about it some time ago
17:31 <@Dagmar> They've painted themselves into a pretty corner over there
17:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: and earthquakes
17:31 <@Dagmar> :)
17:31 <@RangerZ> not as big an issue as you'd think
17:31 <@Evilpig> skyrise and earthquakes... oh yeah
17:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: it is when you consider liability
17:31 <@RangerZ> we have tech to survive 8.0s
17:31 <@Dagmar> Wait until you live somewhere with regular earthquakes and say that
17:31 <@Evilpig> we do but it's expensive
17:32 < aestetix> and yeah
17:32 < aestetix> I would not want to be on the 50th floor when an earthquake hits
17:32 <@RangerZ> liability, whats that... thats something 'poor' people have to deal with
17:32 <@RangerZ> haven't you been paying attention to recent (and past) US history?
17:32 <@Dagmar> People would set themselves if a 5.0 landed nearby
17:32 <@RangerZ> lol
17:32 <@RangerZ> on fire?
17:32 <@RangerZ> hehe
17:32 <@RangerZ> or shit*
17:33 <@Dagmar> sorry, _wet_ themselves
17:33 <@RangerZ> ahh
17:33 <@Dagmar> Also keep in mind that a building has to flex to survive
17:34 <@Dagmar> It doesn't sound like much near the ground, but 40 stories up that means your ass might be getting flung around by a foot or two
17:34 <@Dagmar> For an _occasional_ earthquake, that's probably fine
17:34 <@RangerZ> ohh I'm aware, but 20 stories or even 10
17:34 <@Dagmar> SF has the fuckers monthly
17:35 <@RangerZ> or do like fucking japan
17:35 <@RangerZ> buy dirt and FILL IN THE SEA
17:35 <@RangerZ> lol
17:35 <@Dagmar> What?  Just take it as a natural reduction of the citizenry?
17:35 <@Dagmar> Most of that's gomi
17:35 <@Dagmar> There's nowhere to buy that much dirt from
17:35 <@Dagmar> er gomi being trash, basically
17:36 <@RangerZ> yes they do
17:36 <@RangerZ> its called NJ
17:36 <@RangerZ> ;)
17:36 < aestetix> I would not mind if an earthquake hit san francisco
17:36 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Oh wait you were in Oakland
17:37 <@Dagmar> 3's happen weekly
17:37 <@Dagmar> No one even fuckin' cares
17:37 <@Dagmar> It's about on par with a large truck going past your house
17:37 <@Dagmar> ...which happens anyway so why bother getting excited about it
18:07 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: 512 is the max? How old is it?
18:08 < _NSAKEY> That + "ATI Rage" sounds like you're dealing with some 90s hardware.
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18:36 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: don't insult Dagmar's college graduation gifts like that
18:37 < RangerZ1> just because my earliest memory (thta I can date) is watching on TV the fall of the berlin wall....
19:06 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCSy7tpUME
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21:03 < aestetix> http://members.goatse.cx/
21:03 < PigBot`> Title: Goatse Apps (at members.goatse.cx)
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22:00 <@Dagmar> $5 says the lawyer in the video isn't wearing pants.
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22:37 < RangerZ> ok, I'm pretty sure the nic on my motherboard is shit
23:40 <@Dagmar> Well, for a chance of pace, any idea WTF Android Studio is trying to tell me when it puts an '@' sign in the left hand margin of the edit windows?
23:40 <@Dagmar> Seems kinda random
23:42 <@Dagmar> If the NIC is RealTek, there's about a 40% chance it's crap
23:42 <@Dagmar> Some of their chipset are fine... Others should be burned out with a laser.
23:42 <@Dagmar> I literally have two almost identical methods defined.  One has an @, the other doesn't.
23:43 <@Dagmar> They're both being called by an outside class, so that's not what it's trying to tell me
23:45  * Dagmar shrugs
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