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00:25 <@Dagmar> AMG Reddit is overloaded
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02:50 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg58d8opQKA
03:07 < RangerZ> "you mean Atlanta?"
03:07 < RangerZ> lol
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07:42 < aestetix> https://re-publica.de/session/nsa-are-not-stasi-godwin-mass-surveillance
07:42 < PigBot`> Title: The NSA are not the Stasi: Godwin for mass surveillance | re:publica (at re-publica.de)
08:45 <@Evilpig> fuckers!
08:45 <@Evilpig> they killed off felicia day on supernatural
08:45 <@opticron> noooooooo spoilers
09:14 <@oddball> damnit Evilpig
09:21 <@Evilpig> that's what I get for assuming you people watched it last night
09:21 <@oddball> We have these things called lives. :p
09:22 <@Evilpig> bullshit
09:32 < aestetix> fwiw I have never seen that show
09:32 < aestetix> so your comment made no sense to me :p
09:36 <@Evilpig> company notice...
09:36 <@Evilpig> Hey all-
09:36 <@Evilpig> We're working on the plumbing for the roof bar today (so many bars here now!) which means the plumbers will need access to the 10W restrooms for the morning and will be closed.  They should be open again after lunch.
09:36 <@Evilpig> Please seek toilet refuge elsewhere this morning!
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10:17 < aestetix> ask if Joe the Plumber will be there
10:17 < aestetix> you could get tax advice too
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10:45 < RangerZ> I really hope 10w means "the entire building"
10:46 < RangerZ> "get your ass down to the local 7/11 to pee....and the mcD's to #2(because no one is stupid enough to sit on 7/11's toilet seats)"
10:46 < RangerZ> lol
10:48 <@Evilpig> 10w  means the west side of the 10th floor
10:48 <@Evilpig> there's 10w and 10e
10:49 < RangerZ> i figured it was something like that
10:49 < RangerZ> but still, was an amusing thought
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12:31 <@oddball> "going to a concert isn't a form of recreation, therefor we should be able to ban guns in parks."  The twisted logic! It burns! http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/06/gun-bans-aimed-nashville-memphis-parks-despite-law/26956709/
12:31 < PigBot`> Title: Gun bans aimed for some Nashville, Memphis parks despite law (at www.tennessean.com)
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12:45 <@Dagmar> The world is losing it's mind
12:45 <@Dagmar> Texas is apparently about to be the next state to legalize weed for any purpose... for _religious_ reasons
12:46 <@Dagmar> ...and they're not talking about Rastafarianism
12:46 <@oddball> They won't if the Fed declares martial law and takes them over first!
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12:50 <@klixa> i find it weird that more and more places are beocming anti cigarettes but pro pot
12:50 <@oddball> Well, pretty sure you can't light up a joint in a restaurant that has banned smoking. :p
12:54 <@sasquatc4> yea, they had to put signs up around here at places people can smoke
12:54 <@sasquatc4> like the smoking areas in casinos, have signs that say no pot smoking
12:55 <@Dagmar> What was amusing was being at the medical marijuana clinic's open house, and having to go outside to smoke a cigarette
12:55 <@Dagmar> Bongs, pipes, and hookahs all over the place inside
12:56 <@Dagmar> We had to go outside to actually _sober up_
12:59 <@oddball> heh
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13:00 <@oddball> I'm highly tempted to go down to City Hall with a rolled up newspaper and bop some folks on the nose and tell them "no" over the link I posted.
13:00 <@oddball> The logic used in that article is truly breath taking.
13:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: Well, at least we know the cops in Centennial Park are perfectly fine with guns
13:01 <@oddball> Oh?
13:02 <@oddball> Did I miss something in the past week or two?
13:02 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Systemdelete (one of the Ingress players) knows several of them, because his job is basically... umm... a "donated organ courier"
13:02 <@Dagmar> They've told him several times they'd rather have him carrying his gun over leaving it locked in the car
13:03 <@oddball> Ah... you're talking about person thoughts.  Yeah... most beat cops are friendly to the idea of normal folks carrying.
13:04 <@oddball> They tend to prefer folks to conceal... but that's more due to open carry possibly causing more paperwork for them as people freak out and call in fake "man with gun" reports.
13:05 <@Dagmar> It's also handy that he talks to them because it's made communicating with the cops easier
13:05 <@oddball> Oh... and the lovely folks at Mom's Demanding Action are instructing people to dial 911 and essentially SWAT folks carrying.
13:05 <@Dagmar> They have undercovers in Centennial all the time, and we drive them a little batty at times
13:06 <@Dagmar> It's hard to tell us from the dumb-ass gangsters trying to establish a presence there
13:06 <@oddball> Always good to have the cops look at [group that mundanes think is shifty] and say "oh, we know those guys.  They're fine."
13:06 <@Dagmar> ...and they don't seem to like it that I can spot them a mile away
13:06 <@oddball> heh
13:07 <@Dagmar> My attitude is "You are trying to passively observe someone who is clinically paranoid.  I'm not only going to notice them the moment they're there, I'm going to manouver in ways designed to force them to expose themselves out of simple habit.
13:07 <@oddball> Yeah... there's that.
13:07 <@Dagmar> They're not fans of my "appearing out of nowhere" act, either.  Hehe
13:07 <@oddball> Remember to smile and wave!
13:07 <@Dagmar> I do.
13:08 <@Dagmar> That's when I magically appear rather near them
13:08 <@oddball> heh
13:08 <@Dagmar> There's not a lot of lights in Centennial Park
13:08 <@Dagmar> I'd have to wear a neon sign to be easily visible there
13:08 <@Dagmar> I am (as they have noticed) careful to do this discretely so that they're the only ones who see me doing it
13:09 <@Dagmar> I don't want to blow their cover
13:09 <@Dagmar> I just nod my head to them, say "sup" and disappear back into the shadows
13:09 <@oddball> I may do some Ingress stuff with Critch's mom this weekend.  I have to go over there to pick up a spare key and to find out where the cat food is.  She and Critch are going out of town, and I'm feeding that cats.
13:10 <@Dagmar> Padabelle will give you a run for your money, man
13:10 <@oddball> heh... nice
13:10 <@oddball> Oh... I'm fully expecting her to help me, not the other way around.
13:11 <@Dagmar> Anyway, before I knew these guys were undercover I just avoided them completely, which wasn't helping matters
13:11 <@Dagmar> They'd try to watch me, and I'd just _disappear_
13:11 <@Dagmar> Over and over again.
13:11 <@oddball> After all, I'm still the asshole that has the founder's badge and is level 5. :p
13:11 <@Dagmar> Lately I've been out there in the evenings more regularly than most of the park rangers
13:12 <@Dagmar> Ingress is doing 1.5x AP now, and you even get AP for glyph hacking
13:12 <@oddball> Yeah... I should get off my ass and actually play.
13:13 <@Dagmar> I have made 3/4 of the AP necessary to go from 7 to 8 from glyph hacking _alone_.
13:13 <@oddball> Went to the event Padabelle organized a couple weeks ago.  It was fun.
13:13 <@oddball> Oh, and apparently Naienko has started playing around her dad's place and around her current job.
13:13 <@Dagmar> I need one more gold badge and 3mil AP for level 13
13:14 <@Dagmar> That's likely to happen before the anomaly in the latter part of June so long as people don't start stealing my techniques
13:15 <@oddball> Unfortunately, they dropped the anomaly on the same weekend as Hypericon.  So I won't be there.
13:15 <@Dagmar> I don't smash farms.  Too much expenditure.  I *do* however, like to go down Charlotte, up Broadway, and back down Church, firing bursters as I go when the area is mostly blue
13:15 <@oddball> heh
13:15 <@Dagmar> 600-800 resonators destroyed for the small price of about 50 bursters
13:20 <@Dagmar> Never underestimate the power of a L8 burster fired with a +18% damage/range modifier
13:21 <@Dagmar> It also makes the IITC player tracker go nuts
13:22 <@Dagmar> The flood of nearly random resonator destruction messages and it don't get along.  It looks like I'm the most exuberant spoofer ever.  ;)
13:42 <@Evilpig> btw Dagmar have you had a visit from me via spotpass yet for pokemon rumble world?
13:45 <@Dagmar> yes.  You were even the store manager yesterday
13:54 <@Evilpig> worst part of this game is the pokemon management aspect
13:55 <@Dagmar> I'v bought 330 slots
13:55 <@Evilpig> that's what i'm up too as well
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13:58 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uexj9ewm7vd1lvu/2015-05-07%2013.57.27.jpg?dl=0
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15:50 <@oddball> Ok... I believe Corydon has officially failed at understanding financials.  Apparently the idea of the city having funds specifically earmarked for park services is a forgiegn concept to him.
15:52 < aestetix> ok so
15:52 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Fun script I just wrote for doing work across multiple hosts (customer doesn't allow us to use public keys or any other non-interactive login method)
15:52 < aestetix> most of you believe in a work/life balance right?
15:52 <@Mirage> http://pastebin.com/y68VyjC8
15:52 < PigBot`> Title: [Perl] file_scp_exec.pl - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
15:53 < aestetix> Like, you shouldn't work nonstop for months/years?
15:53 <@Dagmar> FTP transport?  Yuck
15:53 <@Mirage> aestetix: what do you mean?  I don't understand/
15:53 <@Mirage> Dagmar: It's required by the scp stuff for doing password login
15:54 <@oddball> aestetix: Yes.  Which is why we don't work for startups.
15:54 <@Mirage> Dagmar: w/o it (supposedly) the Net::SCP module will only work with public keys
15:54 <@Mirage> Although I will admit, I didn't try it w/o it after reading that.   I had a bitch of a time getting the SCP part to work properly
15:55 < aestetix> oddball: I will be improving my situation on that end soon.
15:58 <@Mirage> Dagmar: yeah...Net::FTP doesn't appear to actually be needed.  Either the example I looked at when I finally figured out how to get it working was out of date and Net::SCP has the functionality built-in now, or it was just wrong in requiring Net::FTP
15:58 <@Dagmar> I think perhaps the latter
15:59 <@Mirage> I wonder if Net::FTP and Net::SCP would both be required for sftp vs scp
16:02 < RangerZ> Mirage: most likely yes, b/c it'd implement the same as 'socket' where you 'implement' what kind of socket you want SSL or not, etc... and then store it into a 'socket' variable (aka, the Strategy pattern)
16:02 < RangerZ> OR... if they hate you...
16:02 < RangerZ> you have to replace it everywhere
16:03 < RangerZ> ohh nvm
16:03 < RangerZ> I thought you were talking about C#
16:03 < RangerZ> not perl
16:03 < RangerZ> lol
16:03 < RangerZ> perl absolutely hates you
16:04 <@Mirage> Either way...I was just able to upload, run, and generate a CSV report on the RHEL "Leap Second" Detector for ~1300 hosts in less than 5 minutes.   I call that a win
16:05 < RangerZ> yeah
16:05 <@Mirage> And I wrote it to take inputs instead of hardcoding everything, so it's reuseable for whatever we have to do.
16:10 < RangerZ> also... proxy pattern... perhaps instead of strategy, but you got my point
16:11 < RangerZ> same 'idea' just different outward appearance
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18:02 < aestetix> Isn't C# basically java with a touch of microsoft?
18:02 < aestetix> I remember the syntax looks really similar
18:04 < RangerZ> essentially, they are both "3rd gen" languages
18:04 < RangerZ> but the history really goes c -> c++ -> java -> c#
18:05 < RangerZ> each improves upon 'weaknesses' of the previous
18:05 < RangerZ> such as java having garbage collection (c# does too, since it is a VM'd language too)
18:07 < RangerZ> c# didn't have legacy issues to deal with so it was able to implement a lot of things java8/9/10 (9~10 are under planning) had to wait a long time to implement
18:10 < aestetix> aaaaand another facebook name suspension
19:07 < RangerZ> for you?
19:07 < RangerZ> just photoshop an ID
19:07 < RangerZ> and just email it to them
19:07 < RangerZ> lol
19:07 < RangerZ> you're out of the country
19:08 < RangerZ> and you need to be caught breaking the computer fraud and abuse act
19:08 < RangerZ> lol
19:08 < RangerZ> "unauthorized access to the network by pretending you were a real person with emotions" etc ;)
19:16 <@klixa> hey, how does someone ban all nicks that start with XYZ for example
19:23 < aestetix> no
19:23 < aestetix> I don't use facebook :p
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20:47 < aestetix> http://www.upout.com/blog/san-francisco-3/san-francisco-rents-hit-record-high-again-last-month-its-only-getting-worse
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21:42 < RangerZ> soma = 43,800.00
21:42 < RangerZ> but ....
21:43 < RangerZ> 150,000$ * 0.35 = 52,500$
21:44 < RangerZ> so... for people making 150$k thats actually not a 'bad' rate
21:44 < RangerZ> only 29.2%
21:45 < RangerZ> I pay a higher % than that
21:46 < RangerZ> by 0.08%... but still ;)
21:46 < RangerZ> when put into THAT perspective... than it makes perfect sense
21:47 < RangerZ> just don't be super successful
21:48 < RangerZ> San Francisco county Median Income from 2009-2013 was $75,604
21:52 < RangerZ> so yeah....
21:52 < RangerZ> 'normal people' can't afford that
21:52 < RangerZ> you know... FOOD... cloths... etc... kinda cost money too :/
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