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00:14 <@RangerZ> https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/47161605
00:14 <@RangerZ> AIX / Linux Engineer OPS-078Bridgestone - US-TN-Nashville
00:14 <@RangerZ> noticed it, if anyone is looking
00:15 <@RangerZ> min reqs:  Bachelors degree in technology-related discipline (e.g. BS Computer Science) or equivalent experience5+ years experience with AIX and Linux infrastructureStrong technical knowledge of AIX and Linux infrastructureStrong troubleshooting skills with AIX and Linux in a large corporate environment
00:18 <@RangerZ> also...
00:18 <@RangerZ> [Do you have a passion for mobile development? Do you have the desire and passion to meet the needs of your customers through Christ centered products?  If yes, LifeWay may be the place for you!]
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00:40 <@Dagmar> Euw
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00:46 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: how'd the interview go? or is it tomorrow?
00:46 <@Dagmar> Phone interview went great.  On-site interview is tomorrow
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00:47 <@RangerZ> good luck
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08:14 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: this cracks me up everytime now.   https://www.dropbox.com/s/zd3wp81su7yaz4o/2015-05-05%2008.14.26.jpg?dl=0
08:29 <@Evilpig> spell check fail or school failure?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3geaqw90ctgc01/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-05%20at%208.27.36%20AM.png?dl=0
08:42 <@oddball> oh for fuck's sake.  Apparently feminists have managed to drive Joss Whedon from Twitter because he dared to have Black Widow get captured in Age of Ultron.
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09:38 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I had a conversation with a coworker yesterday regarding his refusal to eat pork.
09:39 <@Evilpig> he claims that he won't eat any animal that eats its own poop.  so I asked him if he at chicken, fully knowing he eats chicken regularly.  he of course said he does and I said "having grown up with my grandparents farm I know for a fact chickens eat their own poop"
09:39 <@Evilpig> I'm either gonna get him to eat tasty pork or keep him from eating any meat.  heh
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09:39 <@Dolemite> Pretty much all animals eat their own poop or puke.
09:39 <@oddball> along with fucking everything else they can shove down their beaks.
09:40 <@Evilpig> I'll hit him with fish next
09:40 <@Evilpig> that all came about because i offered to bring him some of that batch of white beans I made
09:41 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ltal96dozg9dtd/2015-05-03%2019.58.08.jpg?dl=0
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10:04 <@Evilpig> can anyone quickly tell me what all starts with the "system message bus" under centos?rhel?sl?
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10:15 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Largely, holy wars
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10:27 <@Dagmar> The most delicious PDF you'll see today http://popehat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/LolNo.pdf
10:28 <@Dagmar> Man this whole thing is just hilarity distilled http://popehat.com/2015/05/04/prenda-law-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-appellate-argument/
10:28 < PigBot`> Title: Prenda Law And The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Appellate Argument | Popehat (at popehat.com)
10:28 <@Dagmar> Prenda is so fucked
10:34 < RangerZ1> yay?
10:34 < RangerZ1> lol
10:35 <@Dagmar> They're criminals, so yes... "yay" is a good thing
10:35 <@Dagmar> When you read up on what they were up to, your jaw will drop
10:36 < RangerZ1> ohh I know
10:36 < RangerZ1> I just meant "and this is bad how?"
10:36 < RangerZ1> yeah, and if they DO win... then we need to have a change in laws ASAP
10:36 <@Dagmar> They're going to get time in Big Man's Buttfuckin' Prison if they keep it up
10:36 < RangerZ1> b/c if you can run an extortion scheme like that and not be legally liable
10:36 < RangerZ1> fuck that
10:37 <@Dagmar> Up shit creek is where they are.  What they do now determines how many days of a powerboat going full throttle it will take to get them back out of it
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10:39 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: you are right _NSAKEY probably did make fun of you, but hey, what can you do...
10:39 < RangerZ1> lol
10:39 < RangerZ1> ehh, its probably not as amusing as I thought it was in my head when I thought it up... but 'ehh' I'm still waking up
10:40 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: but seriously... I am NOT happy with Android Studio
10:40 < RangerZ1> fucking takes FOREVER to build
10:40 < RangerZ1> 1min+ is BS compared to Eclipse
10:40 < _NSAKEY> This new box is so ugh.
10:41 < RangerZ1> I need to see if it has a 'continuous' compilation feature or something
10:41 < _NSAKEY> Ubuntu does kernel updates all the time and wants to reboot.
10:41 <@Dagmar> Ther'es some weird shit going on under the hood
10:41 <@Dagmar> It's doing it's builds in two phases
10:41 <@Dagmar> ...and for some reason, you can occasionally get it to make _unclean builds_
10:42 <@Dagmar> I haven't nailed down precisely what causes it.  I just hit 'Clean Build' a lot
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12:09 < RangerZ> Dagmar: http://stackoverflow.com/a/27986406
12:09 < RangerZ> fucking hell... buried in IDEA
12:11 <@Dagmar> Not using that
12:11 < RangerZ> huh?
12:11 <@Dagmar> THe last thing I need is for it to repeatedly blow away the resources table while I'm editing shit
12:11 < RangerZ> you are though AS is IDEA
12:12 < RangerZ> ohh
12:12 < RangerZ> it only does it on saves
12:12 < RangerZ> not -while- editing
12:12 <@Dagmar> I'm not kidding when I say I have an ongoing problem with it generating "cooked" apks
12:12 <@Dagmar> There's two dead giveaways when it happens
12:12 <@Dagmar> One is the app doesn't work correctly (lol)
12:13 <@Dagmar> The other is that with widgets, during the phase where you're dragging the picked up widget from the listing to the home screen, you get some _wildly_ wrong thumbnail image which is literally a randomly selected _other_ image from your package
12:13 <@Dagmar> Some index is being built improperly or not being regenerated when it should
12:14 <@Dagmar> So for now i'm always, "Clean build, Rebuilt Project, Run"
12:14 <@Dagmar> s/Rebuilt/Rebuild/
12:14 <@Dagmar> A few times I've had to switch the build variant to get it to stop fucking up
12:14 <@Dagmar> I'm going to start slacking on the repeated cleaning tho
12:15 <@Dagmar> See if the bug has been fixed
12:16 < RangerZ> apparently intelleJ only allows IDE upgrades if you are a paid subscriber
12:16 < RangerZ> otherwise -all- upgrades are downloading a whole new IDE
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14:28 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iopcfR1vI5I HAHAHA
14:45 <@klixa> anyone in here know why a windows 8.1 mounted in ybuntu claims the user folder is empty? my guess is its a security issue...if so how can u bypass it
14:45 <@klixa> ubuntu*
14:51 < RangerZ> klixa: could be the user dir is encrypted ?
14:52 <@klixa> RangerZ: is there a way around that
14:52 < RangerZ> if it is... good luck... b/c you're boned then :/ AFAIK
14:52 < RangerZ> unless you extract the key and then decrypt it
14:53 <@klixa> i have a laptop that wont boot up (shows windows logo an then a sad face and shuts down again)...tried refreshing, saod drive was locked
14:53 <@klixa> so i either have to figure out how to unlock drive (whatever that means)...or copy data off druve and reformat
14:53 <@klixa> cant copy drive contents cause it claims theres no files in the user folders
14:54 < RangerZ> hmm
14:54 < RangerZ> _no_ files?
14:54 <@klixa> shos as empty
14:54 <@klixa> just the user folder
14:54 <@klixa> shows*
14:55 <@klixa> os x does the same thing , like if i try to look at another user account folder from my account, it says empty too...so i figure this is just somethig  that is done when you need a password
14:55 < RangerZ> hmm
14:56 < RangerZ> klixa: is this on a live disk?
14:57 <@klixa> ubuntu is on a live disk
14:57 <@klixa> usb actually
14:57 <@klixa> does that make a difference
14:57 <@klixa> live vs installed
14:58 < RangerZ> no
14:58 < RangerZ> just curious if drive was split partition
14:59 <@klixa> it has 2 partitions
14:59 <@klixa> first partition is like 200mb, so systemt ype thing
14:59 < RangerZ> yeah
14:59 <@klixa> some system type thing*
14:59 < RangerZ> or windows 95
14:59 < RangerZ> ;)
14:59 <@klixa> haha
15:00 <@klixa> this has been such a pain cause everythign i try doesnt work
15:00 <@klixa> i keep coming up against obstacle after obstacle
15:00 < RangerZ> but seriously... I dunno, it should say "you don't have permission" or something like that when it runs into an 'encrypted' file
15:00 < RangerZ> file/dir*
15:00 <@klixa> ok
15:00 < RangerZ> but if it says 'empty' I dunno
15:00 < RangerZ> ls -la ?
15:00 <@klixa> i havent looked via terminal
15:01 < RangerZ> try that
15:01 <@klixa> ok
15:01 <@klixa> im gonna write that down, cause im not at theat other laptop atm
15:01 < RangerZ> see if it gives you errors/ swears at you in spanish or something
15:01 <@klixa> lol swears at you in spanish
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15:04 <@klixa> reading irectory; input /outpur area, 0
15:05 < RangerZ1> sorry back
15:05 < RangerZ1> huh?
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15:05 < RangerZ1> they are upgrading wireless here
15:06 <@klixa> it said ls: reading directory . : input/output error total 0
15:07 < RangerZ1> hmm...
15:07 < RangerZ1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1605384
15:07 < PigBot`> Title: [SOLVED] Input/output error when accesing a directory (at ubuntuforums.org)
15:09 < RangerZ1> yeah, thats an idea, try the win8.1 disk
15:09 < RangerZ1> and try to 'repair' the System software
15:09 <@klixa> i have tried all that already
15:10 <@klixa> i tried a refresh, told me drive was locked...and tried fixboot and other various stuff with bcdedit
15:10 < RangerZ1> ouch :/
15:10 <@klixa> or bcd something
15:10 < RangerZ1> I'm out of ideas then
15:10 < RangerZ1> sorry
15:10 < RangerZ1> maybe someone else has a great idea
15:10 < RangerZ1> could try to DD the data off of it
15:10 < RangerZ1> and see what that gets you
15:14 < RangerZ1> also, the financial report is (and I don't care if it is made by quickbooks) not oganized well IMHO , doesn't state starting balance/ending balance, etc
15:17 <@klixa> theres a video of a zillion things to try...guess that is my next step
15:34 <@oddball> Damn... nashville2600's financials just got posted.  Not very detailed but *very* damning.
15:36 < aestetix> link?
15:37 < aestetix> oddball: link? :p
15:37 <@oddball> link is to the Google drive.  Don't know if you have access to that.
15:37 <@oddball> http://tinyurl.com/mdffkxp
15:37 < PigBot`> Title: Financial (at tinyurl.com)
15:37 < aestetix> yep
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15:40 <@oddball> basically, even though PN raised the cost of admission last year, it brought in less money through registration than the year before (which was seriously down from the year before that), and the convention cost significantly more than previous costs... even though PN didn't provide food/drink.
15:40 < aestetix> ouch
15:40 < aestetix> how much was admission last year?
15:41 <@oddball> I'm trying to remember if it was $30 or $40 at the door.
15:41 < aestetix> wow
15:42 <@oddball> As a paying member of nashville2600, I didn't have to pay.
15:42 <@oddball> I believe it used to be $20.
15:42 < aestetix> The first year I went it was free :p
15:42 <@oddball> That's been... a while.
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18:16 < _NSAKEY> oddball: It was $40 at the door, $30 if you registered ahead of time.
18:19 <@oddball> ah, right.  Which I believe was up from the previous year.
18:20 <@Dagmar> Why are the Gross Profit entries wrong?
18:21 <@Dagmar> "Purchases - COS" is zero for 2014
18:21 <@Dagmar> Either way, ten grand for the hotel is insanely bad
18:22 <@Dagmar> Like holy shit
18:22 <@oddball> I'm guessing that's the category for swag/t-shirts... and there weren't any for this past year.
18:22 <@Dagmar> Spending twice what's in the kitty on the hotel--or even risking it on the hotel--is something that shoudln't have been done
18:23 <@oddball> And oh! hey! registraion intake was down significantly.  I distinctly remember being told that we had similar attendance.
18:23 <@Dagmar> I suspect that Dru is going to be told "Put it in writing or we can't hear you" for awhile
18:24 <@Dagmar> Cuz I'm having a hard time identifying anything he told us that was actually true
18:24 <@oddball> Oh, this was told to me by Corydon.
18:24 <@Dagmar> Fuck up all you like, just don't hide it from us for pete's sake or we can't help
18:25 <@oddball> But that would require admitting failure.
18:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah well, we can't pull fat from fire if we're being told there's no fire
18:26 <@oddball> These financials are really fucking damning in my eyes.
18:26 <@Dagmar> Yes, they are
18:26 <@Dagmar> ...but mainly they're confirmation of things we already knew.
18:26 <@Dagmar> Dru was fucking up.
18:27 <@oddball> Yep
18:27 <@Dagmar> Now that we know this, we can't let him hide it _again_ this year
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18:27 < NSAKEY_> Dagmar: That's why Elonka's been pushing for things like limits on what board members can independently spend.
18:27 <@Dagmar> We're drafting a CFP at the next meeting and pushing it out right then
18:27 <@oddball> We've lost close to $10k over the past 2 years... I'm honestly not sure we can survive another year.
18:28 <@Dagmar> I meant to push for that Friday but didn't make it to the meeting
18:28 < NSAKEY_> Dagmar: What even goes into writing a CFP?
18:28 <@Dagmar> Letters.
18:28 <@Dagmar> Some punctuation.
18:28 < NSAKEY_> Haha. I'm all for this.
18:28 <@Dagmar> If we're feeling frisky, maybe even some grammar
18:28 < NSAKEY_> Oh shit, now we're getting fancy.
18:28 <@Dagmar> It doesn't have to be perfect, but it does need to be a 'thing'.
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18:29 <@oddball> CFP?
18:29 <@Dagmar> Basically it's just a public announcement that we're requesting people who want to do a talk or demonstration to tell us what they've got in mind.
18:29 <@Dagmar> Call For Papers
18:29 <@oddball> ah
18:29 <@Dagmar> or Call For Presentaions
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18:30 <@Dagmar> This month would have been good, but next month should still get us some confidence in the field that we're not dead
18:30 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Speaking of CFPs, are you going to submit anything regarding the flawed nature of the upcoming credit cards?
18:30 <@oddball> Hell, as far as I'm aware, we're still not solid on a hotel, much less a concrete date.
18:30 <@Dagmar> Still trying to decide if I want to chow down on that lion
18:30 <@Dagmar> It will certainly make some people very angry
18:30 < _NSAKEY> oddball: There was a short list that was mentioned at the meeting.
18:30 < _NSAKEY> Some of them even got named.
18:31 <@Dagmar> It will even more certianly involve hundreds of hours of careful research
18:31 <@oddball> I would think knowing *when* the con will be should be done before call for papers.
18:31 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'm under the impression that they want to nail that down at the next board meeting, which I believe is tomorrow.
18:31 <@Dagmar> We have a good idea it'll be near the end of October
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18:34 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Yeah... well... I'm pretty sure they've stated "we'll have that settled by next board meeting" before.
18:34 < _NSAKEY> Well, yeah.
18:35 < _NSAKEY> I'm just typing what I heard.
18:35 < _NSAKEY> I'll be back in a bit.
18:35 <@oddball> If they were still looking at more than one hotel as of Friday, I'd be surprised if they get things nailed down by tomorrow.  Just due to the amount of work/negotiation involved.
18:57 < _NSAKEY> I think they'll count themselves lucky if Dru signs off on the PN18 report and it isn't too insulting to anyone.
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19:20 <@RangerZ> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/chlamydia-outbreak-hits-texas-high-school-sex-ed/story?id=30798143
19:20 < PigBot`> Title: Chlamydia Outbreak Hits Texas High School With No Sex Ed - ABC News (at abcnews.go.com)
19:20 <@RangerZ> hehe
19:23 <@oddball> oops
19:41 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTSIIM-iPyU
19:41 <@RangerZ> PigBot`: wtf
19:41 < PigBot`> RangerZ: Error: "wtf" is not a valid command.
19:41 <@RangerZ> [New Indiana Jones Sequel Confirmed - IGN News]
19:42 <@RangerZ> not that it will be soon just a "we'll milk this cow later"
19:43 <@oddball> Well... Harrison Ford ain't dead yet!
19:44 <@oddball> Speaking of which... I'm trying to remember if I have a copy of the Young Indy series.
19:45 <@RangerZ> which honestly... I really liked at the time
19:46 <@RangerZ> no clue if it was b/c I was 7 or if it was really good
19:47 <@oddball> Nope.  Costco sold box sets a couple years ago.  I got one for my dad.  Went back later to get one for me, and they were gone.  We watched a couple episodes after I gave them to him.  They were good.
19:52 < _NSAKEY> oddball: This is why BitTorrent exists.
19:52 <@oddball> That's why I'm checking to see if I have a copy. :p
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19:59 < _NSAKEY> Speaking of which, the seedbox I've had for almost 3 years is about to be toast. The company's going out of business.
20:00 < _NSAKEY> I should probably start looking into alternatives for... Um... Downloading linux ISOs.
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21:20 < RangerZ> HAHAHAHA Republicans might cut off their debate entry via "how much money you have raised"
21:20 < RangerZ> now... does that count super pacs?
21:21 < RangerZ> b/c jeb bush has outsourced polling/phone banks/and a lot of other 'election' things to his super pac
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23:45 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm not sure that's even remotely legal
23:45 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: There are strict rules against direct collaboration with pacs
23:47 < RangerZ> Dagmar: hahahah
23:47 < RangerZ> ohh you meant "legal"
23:47 < RangerZ> ohh sure
23:48 < RangerZ> but there is nothing that prevents the GOP from counting superpac money when making up its own rules for cutoff in the debates
23:48 < RangerZ> even superpac $
23:48 < RangerZ> but they won't
23:48 < RangerZ> HOWEVER that COULD hurt jeb bush, b/c his campaign has almost no money
23:48 < RangerZ> "almost no" <= compared to his super pac
23:49 < RangerZ> still multi multi millions
23:51 <@Dagmar> I think we should demand he take a drug test
23:53 < RangerZ> I'd rather an 8th grade science test
23:53 <@Dagmar> That would be hilarious
23:53 < RangerZ> hell, most of us would fuck shit up too, but thats b/c these standardized tests are designed to be tricky
23:54 <@Dagmar> I don't recall them even being moderately hard
23:54 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: There's an age joke somewhere in response to what you just said.
23:54 < RangerZ> somewhere? its all over the damn place
23:54 <@Dagmar> My senior year I _slept_ through some of my physics class because it just wasn't even remotely tricky
23:54 < _NSAKEY> He's talking about the tests themselves.
23:55 < _NSAKEY> They do make those tricky on purpose.
23:55 < _NSAKEY> You should see people flunking out at the DVM because they don't understand the questions.
23:55 < RangerZ> Dagmar: yeah, I'm talking about the -test- not the 'material'
23:55 <@Dagmar> The instructor quickly learned to stop trying to suprise me with questions by waking me up, too
23:55 <@Dagmar> Ranger
23:55 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I should be given a 5% handicap just for things being in scantron format
23:55 <@Dagmar> They can _try_ and be tricky all they like
23:56 < RangerZ> The tests they have now just don't make sense... google "talking pumpkin question" lol
23:56 < RangerZ> an short story about a talking pumpkin, racing a hare, the hare wins the race, then eats the pumpkin
23:56 < RangerZ> wtf
23:56 < RangerZ> LOL
23:57 <@Dagmar> It doesn't come up for me
23:57 < _NSAKEY> s/pumpkin/pineapple/
23:57 <@Dagmar> OKay that one actually came up at the bottom of the first page for 'talking pumpkin test question'.
23:57 <@Dagmar> Yay googels
23:57 < RangerZ> ohh ok
23:59 <@Dagmar> c, and b
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