--- Log opened Mon May 04 00:00:35 2015
00:06 <@Dagmar> It's a place where people who are addicted to VC money can come and find people to exploit, from what I could tell
00:06 < RangerZ> nah
00:06 < RangerZ> that was a few weeks ago
00:07 < RangerZ> where you PAY 50$ to spend the weekend doing the same, and then give a business proposal 2min talk to some VCs
00:07 < RangerZ> most of them there were bloc.io code-academy operating under the name Nashville Software School
00:07 < RangerZ> or Vandy students
00:12 < RangerZ> Evilpig: ping
00:13 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: pong
00:16 < RangerZ> So I've been thinking about how to work comic sans into an assignment for the MOOC ... have it spell out "Fonties LOVE Comic Sans"
00:17 <@Dagmar> You weren't hearing the deranged conversations I was late Friday night
00:17 <@Dagmar> "I've got the ideas... I just need to find some good programmers who will write them for me!"
00:18 < RangerZ> .... hahaha
00:19 <@Dagmar> I got those last bugs killed off, by the way
00:19 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow I'm going to export the other four-million tiny little pngs and push the lot out for public release
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00:20 <@Dagmar> the setVisibility problem turned out to be a guard value elsewhere screwing things up
00:20 < RangerZ> ahh
00:20 < RangerZ> well thats good
00:20 < RangerZ> I finally started transitioning to gradle/android studio
00:20 <@Dagmar> The thing now runs as a foreground service and basically, works like it should everyehere.
00:21 < RangerZ> nice
00:21 <@Dagmar> At _least_ the system alert permission isn't one that yells at the user during install time to freak them out
00:21 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, it hasn't incurred a special dialog _yet-
00:21 <@Dagmar> Apparently it's required, even for TYPE_PHONE
00:22 < RangerZ> I got beacons working in Bluetooth LE , made a really nice fragment for controlling a service to get them from the BT LE chip, and a fragment to log the updates
00:23 < RangerZ> and https://github.com/lemberg/mappwidget/
00:23 < PigBot`> Title: lemberg/mappwidget · GitHub (at github.com)
00:24 < RangerZ> a nice library & tool for creating offline maps for apps
00:24 <@Dagmar> Cool
00:24 < RangerZ> I already got a proof of concept working
00:24 < RangerZ> pinch to zoom is the only feature I didn't get working yet
00:25 <@Dagmar> I haven't even touched non-tap gestures yet
00:25 < RangerZ> you should put in secret functions based on drawing characters over the entire screen in order D.A.G.M.A.R.
00:25 < RangerZ> lol
00:26 <@Dagmar> I think my time would be better spent adding annoying and distracting toast messages for people who've selected Resistance
00:27 <@Dagmar> Things like "Google Wallet data exfiltrated successfully."
00:27 <@Dagmar> It's cool how nothing logs where toast message came from
00:27 < RangerZ> or "Warning, FBI_VAN wifi has malformed packets, connect or connect"
00:27 < RangerZ> lol
00:28 < RangerZ> you can even pop up 'activities' like that, that people can't tell where they come from, with buttons
00:28 < RangerZ> a guy at vandy wrote an game that would pass through button presses
00:28 < RangerZ> so your game just had to have people 'press' to send money to you, etc
00:29 < RangerZ> or switch the phone into chinese
00:29 < RangerZ> hehe
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00:30 < RangerZ> they have since fixed that
00:30 <@Evilpig> who was asking about branching a github project the other day?  was it synx?
00:30 <@Evilpig> https://github.com/posabsolute/jQuery-Validation-Engine#contribution
00:30 < PigBot`> Title: posabsolute/jQuery-Validation-Engine · GitHub (at github.com)
00:32 < RangerZ> forget that
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00:32 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obeWPk4HaI
00:32 < PigBot`> Title: Git Usage Tutorial - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:32 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xRq1hGs6iw
00:32 < PigBot`> Title: Git Installation Tutorial - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:33 < RangerZ> there you go
00:33 < RangerZ> on doug's account, but I made them
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00:34 <@Evilpig> those are the steps needed to branch and submit a pull.  i'll take text over a video any day of the week
00:34 <@Evilpig> unless we're talking porn.  in that case I want the video
00:38 < RangerZ> ohh don't lie, we all know you trolled through bash.org for fap material
00:40 < RangerZ> speaking of... notlarry material http://bash.org/?954760
00:40 < PigBot`> Title: QDB: Quote #954760 (at bash.org)
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00:43 <@Evilpig> I'm out.  night all
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01:43 < RangerZ> ok, I'm starting to love intelleJ IDEA
01:43 < RangerZ> code style option for 'force braces' after if/while, etc.
03:10 < aestetix> https://storify.com/weev/fun-with-twitter-ads-day-1
03:10 < PigBot`> Title: Fun with Twitter's ad console. (with images, tweets) · weev · Storify (at storify.com)
03:10 < aestetix> this is fucking hilarious
04:04 < RangerZ> aestetix: of course it is
04:04 < RangerZ> anything on twitter is funny, because the barrier to entry is so low, but people 'feel' like it is selective
04:05 < RangerZ> so they feel offended when asshats like weev show up
04:12 < aestetix> It's funny becayse they block weev, but then promoted tweets can't be blocked
04:12 < aestetix> so he targeted the people who blocked him
04:12 < aestetix> and twitter won't do anything because he's paying for it
04:12 < RangerZ> yep
04:12 < aestetix> keep in mind I don't agree with him, but I think i'ts fucking hilarious
04:12 < RangerZ> ohh Its so obviously trolling that I wouldn't even get upset
04:14 < aestetix> twitter DOES have a fitler though
04:14 < aestetix> he tried to make a tweet that was simply the word "nigger" and twitter won't let him do it
04:14 < aestetix> (for promoted)
04:32 < RangerZ> if 'you'(collective) have to swear to insult/enrage someone, you're failing trolling 101
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04:49 < aestetix> RangerZ: totally agreed
04:49 < RangerZ> so their system can't handle weev
04:50 < RangerZ> it just isn't designed to handle adversarial agents
04:53 < aestetix> Honestly, twitter should be like "if they are annoying, ignore them. if they are doing something illegal, let us know"
05:13 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: They seem to permanently suspend "annoying" people faster than the ones actually breaking laws.
05:13 < RangerZ> but that wouldn't be 'pro-active' enough
05:13 < _NSAKEY> Look at how long it took them to purge the ISIS accounts.
05:14 < RangerZ> only b/c ANON was listing them publicly
05:14 < _NSAKEY> Even then, they screwed up and suspended isis lovecruft for a few days, then unsuspended her without an explanation.
05:14 < RangerZ> twitter could have data-mined that shit themselves
05:15 < RangerZ> I'm just glad that the one guy who over-volt/amped a large capacitor at hackTN wasn't one of the vandy ISIS crew
05:15 < _NSAKEY> I stopped taking Anonymous seriously once the "collective" stopped using 4chan to ruin people and started using Twitter to organize e-protests.
05:15 < RangerZ> I could only imagine the wireline service headlines: "ISIS Members exploded IED in Nashville"
05:15 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha. No kidding.
05:18 < aestetix> by illegal
05:18 < aestetix> I mean if someone posts SSN or medical data or something
05:18 < aestetix> or yeah the ISIS beheadings that counts
05:18 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Exactly. Those people should get the banhammer.
05:19 < aestetix> Not someone saying "nigger"
05:19 < aestetix> I would rather someone say that word, than actually commit a crime against a black person
05:19 < RangerZ> how are ISIS beheadings illegal?
05:19 < RangerZ> Saudi Arabia does them too
05:19 < RangerZ> just doesn't televise them
05:19 < aestetix> RangerZ: that gets complicated. potentially obscenity
05:20 < RangerZ> there are not obscenity laws in the US anymore
05:20 < RangerZ> except for public airwaves
05:20 < aestetix> tell that to the FCC :p
05:20 < aestetix> lol
05:20 < RangerZ> PUBLIC airwaves
05:20 < aestetix> right
05:20 < RangerZ> and the importation of porn
05:20 < aestetix> well
05:20 < RangerZ> only hustler/playboy is legal to import
05:20 < RangerZ> _by name_
05:21 < aestetix> child porn counts as obscenity, and its illegal
05:21 < RangerZ> nope
05:21 < RangerZ> child porn is NOT an obscenity
05:21 < RangerZ> thats a common misconeption
05:21 < aestetix> I am so tempted to topic that
05:21 < RangerZ> its a physical act of violence against the child it was done to
05:21 < _NSAKEY> Watch as that gets taken completely out of context one day.
05:21 < RangerZ> ehh, fuck'em
05:22 < RangerZ> the reason child porn is illegal is because the existence of the image re-harms the person in the future each time it is shown to them
05:22 < RangerZ> same as rape videos
05:23 < RangerZ> which is why drawn or written child porn is legal in the US
05:23 < RangerZ> because there is no 'real' victim
05:24 < aestetix> 'RangerZ: "child porn has no real victims"'
05:24 < RangerZ> umm...
05:24 < RangerZ> no
05:24 < RangerZ> and fuck you man
05:25 < aestetix> sigh
05:25 < RangerZ> don't quote shit that I didn't say, b/c asshats like crazypants will actually use that
05:25 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/595156754155077633
05:25 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "@sneakatdatavibe @jilliancyork Such as every Sidney Poitier film?" (at twitter.com)
05:25 < RangerZ> we KNOW she had a bot in here
05:26 < aestetix> I like jillian, but sometimes she takes it too far
05:26 < aestetix> that statement was just plain stupid
05:30 < RangerZ> aestetix: ... just ask if Selma Marchers were "provoking" the police
05:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: the other day I listened to her complain about weev being a troll, and twitter setting up an office in dubai (free speech issues), within the span of 10 minutes
05:32 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Is she saying that weev's speech needs to be limited, or just that she disagrees with his point of view?
05:34 < RangerZ> obviously that he needs to be limited
05:34 < RangerZ> THOUGH... it CAN BE logistically consistent
05:34 < RangerZ> in that UAE/etc are governments, and twitter is not
05:34 < RangerZ> but I doubt they thought about it that much
05:35 < _NSAKEY> Well, simply calling him a troll or an asshole doesn't strictly mean that his speech should be limited.
05:35 < _NSAKEY> He's exercising his speech rights, and so is she in that case.
05:35 < RangerZ> and if they did, they are stupid for thinking that twitter is 1) gov't 2) thinking that people should be silenced because YOU don't agree is a bad idea... b/c the "YOU" can change
05:36 < RangerZ> The Rush Limbaugh boycotts are a perfect example
05:36 < RangerZ> he's lost a LARGE chunk of his listeners b/c stations are dropping him , b/c they can't get sponsors
05:37 < RangerZ> BUT... thats a double-edged sword and we wouldn't want that done to vice president HRC when Bernie is elected ;)
05:37 < aestetix> you mean VP Rand when Ted Cruz is elected
05:38 < RangerZ> Ted is too smart to become president
05:38 < RangerZ> he doesn't want that job
05:38 < RangerZ> he only wants to be some billionaire's marketing budget this year for cutting some government spending so that they can spend it on things that make THAT billionaire richer
05:39 < RangerZ> if I was a billionaire, I'd just ask a politician to wear a nascar jumpsuit
05:39 < RangerZ> with my logo on it
05:39 < aestetix> you know
05:39 < RangerZ> no 'direct' communication obviously
05:39 < RangerZ> lol
05:39 < aestetix> Ted may be smart, but he does not put off a smart image
05:40 < RangerZ> yes he does, he just is a shill
05:40 < RangerZ> he's politically unsavy
05:40 < RangerZ> thats different from not being smart
05:40 < RangerZ> savvy*
05:40 < aestetix> you mean like doing a flibuster and running for president within the first few years of his freshman term as a senator?
05:40 < RangerZ> running part worked for obama
05:41 < RangerZ> but yes... the filibuster stunt he pulled was fucking stupid
05:41 < RangerZ> pissed off the REPUBLICANS more than democrats
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08:26 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I figured you'd be pleased with the IntelliJ stuff in AS
08:36 < aestetix> ok techcrunch is too painful to read today
08:48 <@Evilpig> http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/04/carly-fiorina-touts-hp-experience-in-her-bid-for-presidency/
08:48 < PigBot`> Title: Carly Fiorina Touts HP Experience In Her Bid For President | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com)
08:48 <@Evilpig> WHA?!
08:49 <@Dagmar> heheh
08:49 <@Evilpig> are you kidding me?  her experience at HP?  you mean killing the mobile division of HP?!
08:49 <@Evilpig> running palm into the ground as part of that experience
09:01 <@oddball> Maybe her angle is that she's learned from the many mistakes she made there?
09:01 <@Dagmar> Well, by that standard we should be re-electing Dubya
09:02 <@Dagmar> With the number of fuck-ups under his belt, he'd be the most qualified President ever.
09:05 < aestetix> I think Bush's qualification was that he is a "good listener"
09:37 <@Dagmar> Looking at this picture of my brother, I see why his coworkers were kinda freaked out by me
09:37 <@Dagmar> He's like 60% grey now
09:37 <@Dagmar> _Three years younger than me_
09:37 <@Dagmar> lol
10:00 <@oddball> Tell us the truth.  It's the virgin blood, isn't it?
10:00 <@Dagmar> That or the evil.
10:01 <@Dagmar> Phon interview today at 2pm
10:01 <@Dagmar> It should be interesting
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10:03 <@oddball> cool
10:08 <@Dagmar> So, when was the last time you too Naienko for a walk around Bicentennial Mall?
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10:24 <@oddball> It's been... a while.
10:24 <@oddball> But she's sort of gotten into Ingress, so we should probably head down there at some point.  Why?
10:31 < RangerZ> Dagmar: break a le..... good lu..... hell either of those is cursed/could end up with someone else hurt....
10:32 < RangerZ> "have a nice call"
10:40 < RangerZ> oddball: lets hope yoru shwartz has been strong lately, helping you to remember your wedding anniversary ;)
10:40 <@oddball> That is part of why we got married on this day. :)
10:40 <@oddball> (no... seriously... we are that geeky)
10:47 < RangerZ> lol
10:48 < RangerZ> so... Prophet Mohammad art contest in TX
10:48 < RangerZ> first of all.... I'm upset
10:48 < RangerZ> that .... I didn't think of that....
10:49 <@oddball> heh
10:49 < RangerZ> secondly... a guy shoots it up
10:49 < RangerZ> shooting 2, possibly killing 2
10:49 < RangerZ> ok yeah... 2 killed :/
10:50 <@oddball> The story that I saw was 3 shot.  A security gaurd in the leg, and 2 shooters.. killed by security.
10:51 < RangerZ> ahh ok
10:51 <@oddball> http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-shooting-20150503-story.html#page=2
10:51 < PigBot`> Title: Outside Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas, guard is shot and 2 gunmen killed - LA Times (at www.latimes.com)
10:51 < RangerZ> link on fox news on my google news
10:52 < RangerZ> and I was smart enough to not link it
10:52 < RangerZ> either way... 2 people ARE dead...
10:52 < RangerZ> and i'd rather them be alive and sent to prison for life
10:52 <@oddball> Now... by all reports, the 2 shooters intended to shoot the place up and rack up the kills.  Fortunately, they were put down before that happened.
10:53 < RangerZ> b/c if 2 asshats were willing to do this... I'm curious as to who else they know would be
10:53 <@oddball> Not me.  They thoughts folks deserved to die for scribbling something on some paper.  Time to put them down like you would a rabid dog.
10:53 < RangerZ> nah, I think death is too easy of a punishment
10:54 < RangerZ> which is why I'm not in favor of the death penalty in any case
10:54 < RangerZ> just put everyone into general population
10:54 < _NSAKEY> These shooters always have big aspirations, but most of them end up with a low kill count.
10:55 < _NSAKEY> One of the only ones in recent memory to be a "success" (As measured by body count) is that Breivik guy.
10:55 < _NSAKEY> The Columbine kids, for example, wanted to rack up hundreds of dead bodies, but their pipe bombs never went off.
10:56 < RangerZ> ohh fuck... the group doing the art contest was some extremist racist group not someone being funny... so these shooters play RIGHT into their idea that there are "no moderate Muslims", etc
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10:56 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: easier: the batman movie shooter
10:57 < RangerZ> literally in a shooting gallery , I'm just glad the death toll wasn't higher
10:57 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Or Elliott Rodger. He wanted to kill a bunch of women, and his victims were mostly men.
10:57 <@oddball> And as someone in another channel pointed out, the cops/security stopped these two asshats before they could make the body count to count as a "mass shooting."
10:58 < RangerZ> oddball: obviously thats better than them NOT , my point is just that I wish they could have been stopped without killing them (goal, obviously not possible a lot of time with shooters)
10:59 <@oddball> Oh, yeah.  I agree.  It's the problem that people tend to look at mass shootings and ask what could have been done without looking at incidents like this.
11:01 < RangerZ> the ONLY reason this was this way, is that police knew where someone might target
11:01 <@oddball> true
11:01 < RangerZ> and had law enforcement at the event
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11:01 < RangerZ> if this was an elementary school with only 1 guard , and not a group of police
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11:03 < RangerZ> http://news.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-for-raspberry-pi-2-download-78052/
11:03 < PigBot`> Title: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2 now available for download (at news.thewindowsclub.com)
11:04 <@oddball> It's a trap!
11:04 < RangerZ> I could see this actually being useful for .net based servers
11:04 < RangerZ> so .net IoT 'stuff'
11:04 < RangerZ> because MSFT is tired of most c# running on linux
11:04 < RangerZ> b/c of MONO
11:04 < RangerZ> lol
11:05 <@oddball> yep
11:06 < RangerZ> to the point that we write c# with a limited subset of library possible so that it compiles for mono
11:06 <@oddball> I'm guessing that MS did this because they see the Raberry Pi platform as a threat.  It might cause Linux to become more mainstream.  Same thing happened with netbooks.
11:06 < RangerZ> yep
11:06 < RangerZ> and honestly netbooks are what -really- drove linux into the mainstream
11:07 <@oddball> Which probably means that it will sort of work on the Pi, and people will decide that the Pi sucks, not that Windows has a bunch of bloat.
11:07 < RangerZ> nah its probably going to run great
11:07 < RangerZ> b/c it is headless
11:07 < RangerZ> no UI
11:07 < RangerZ> just windows kernel
11:08 <@oddball> ah
11:09 < RangerZ> so I'm "betting" it will work as a legit simple IoT OS/platform
11:09 < RangerZ> otherwise it would have been better to just NOT publish it
11:09 < RangerZ> just ignore it and say "windows is for REAL devices"
11:09 < RangerZ> no matter what anyone else says
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11:12 <@oddball> For fuck's sake.  There's times to protest cop on citizen violence (Baltimore seems to be a good example), and then there's this.  A vigil being held for a girl that was shot simply because she shot first. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/family-holds-vigil-victim-officer-involved-shootin/nk7wN/
11:12 < PigBot`> Title: Family holds vigil for woman killed in officer-involved shooting | www.wsbtv.com (at www.wsbtv.com)
11:13 <@oddball> Dear mother of the girl: I'm sorry for your loss, but that's what she fucking gets.  Shoot at someone that's armed, expect to recieve returning fire.
11:16 < _NSAKEY> My only question regarding that story: How did she slip the handcuffs?
11:17 <@oddball> My guess is that the cops failed to put the handcuffs on tight enough.
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11:18 < _NSAKEY> I get that they were waiting for a female cop to do a search, and so didn't catch the gun.
11:18 < _NSAKEY> But it seems like the only question they should be asking is how she slipped the cuffs.
11:21 <@oddball> My only thought is that I think I've read that it's not uncommon for cops to not slap the cuffs on women tight enough due to fear of hurting them/women tending to have smaller wrists/hands.
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11:22 < _NSAKEY> You're probably right.
11:23 < _NSAKEY> If her first instinct was to pull on them after slipping the cuffs, she probably doesn't have enough forethought to own handcuff keys.
11:23 <@oddball> Of course, she also apparently had a couple car theft charges on her record, so she might have had a key on her.
11:23 <@oddball> It's not like those are hard to come by.
11:24 < _NSAKEY> ... And they caught her in a stolen car.
11:24 <@oddball> But she was the sweetest of all angels according to friends and family.
11:25 < _NSAKEY> I imagine there will be some lecturing and policy over the proper way to handle these situations, but none of that will involve when to use deadly force because those cops were so far in the right that it isn't funny.
11:25 < _NSAKEY> *policy changing
11:26 <@oddball> Honestly, I'd be happy to see the Atlanta PD respond with "gee... maybe she shouldn't have shot at a cop."
11:26 <@oddball> Actually, I take that back.  They do need to figure out what happened with the cuffs.
11:27 <@oddball> 'cause she could have actually shot the cops.
11:28 < _NSAKEY> Exactly.
11:28 < _NSAKEY> That's just a safety issue for them.
11:28 <@oddball> yep
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12:46 <@Evilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSkDGa9Ei4U
12:46 < PigBot`> Title: Munchkin Cat Pops Water Balloons - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:13 < aestetix> fucking .arf files
13:13 < aestetix> before I waste an hour, is there a good .arf to .mp3 converter?
13:14 < aestetix> .arf is the file you get from webex recordings
13:15 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah, I think audacity does it, 1 min
13:16 < RangerZ> nope, nvm
13:16 < RangerZ> guess not
13:18 < aestetix> ugh
13:18 < aestetix> vlc can't even play it
13:23 < _NSAKEY> Leave it to you to find a format that VLC can't handle.
13:29 < RangerZ> http://www.webex.com/play-webex-recording.html
13:29 < PigBot`> Title: WebEx Player: Watch, share, and edit WebEx recordings. (at www.webex.com)
13:29 < RangerZ> there you go
13:29 < RangerZ> found a player ;)
13:29 < RangerZ> because.... "The free WebEx ARF Player will also convert ARF files to Windows Media Player'sWMV files or Flash SWF files. "
13:29 < RangerZ> hehe
13:30 < aestetix> ....
13:30 < RangerZ> I LOVE being a troll/helpful at the -exact- same time
13:30 < RangerZ> hehe
13:33 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Take today's example as an interactive lesson in trolling.
13:38 < RangerZ> the saddest part is that its the -right- answer
13:39 < RangerZ> but its so stupid that no one would think of it, lol
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13:58 < aestetix> ugh
13:58 < aestetix> I think that conversion is only available for windows :/
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14:30 < aestetix> haha
14:30 < aestetix> http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/05/04/weev-been-trolled-again/
14:38 < aestetix> https://vimeo.com/28466163
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16:29 <@RangerZ> https://www.facebook.com/groups/111306538969611/permalink/677527369014189/
16:29 < PigBot`> Title: Welcome to Facebook (at www.facebook.com)
16:29 <@RangerZ> house 48k
16:30 <@RangerZ> looks smallish, but nicer
16:30 <@RangerZ> aestetix: HAHAHAHA
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19:10 <@Evilpig> shitdicked ups driver didn't even try
19:11 <@Evilpig> fucker put a notice for me and one for my downstairs neighbor on the door outside and left
19:11 <@Evilpig> they were in there as well
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21:00 < RangerZ1> HAHAHA
21:01 < RangerZ1> Berney Sanders's brother is running for parliment in UK in the green party,
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