--- Log opened Tue Apr 28 00:00:29 2015
00:00 < aestetix> lol
00:01 < aestetix> RangerZ: 1. I don't have a facebook account 2. why would I call you?
00:01 < RangerZ> who ever said you'd call me
00:04 <@Evilpig> aestetix: you'd call him for cyber sex.
00:04 <@Evilpig> we all would
00:04 < RangerZ> true...
00:04 < aestetix> http://only.wtf/480-pound-woman-dies-after-six-years-on-couch/
00:04 < PigBot> Title: 480-Pound Woman Dies After Six Years On Couch | Only WTF (at only.wtf)
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00:57 < RangerZ> http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/04/27/twitter-inc-earnings-preview-what-you-need-to-know.aspx
00:57 < PigBot> Title: Twitter Inc. Earnings Preview: What You Need to Know (TWTR) (at www.fool.com)
00:58 < RangerZ> so THATS how twitter makes money... putting in ads in 'twitter streams'
00:58 < RangerZ> I'd wondered
01:10 < RangerZ> aestetix: how you liking Bury, North West England ?
01:11 < RangerZ> http://wanksy.viralthread.com/artist-wanksy-uses-penises-to-help-clean-up-community/
01:11 < PigBot> Title: Wanksy Artist Uses Giant Penises To Force Council In To Action (at wanksy.viralthread.com)
01:16 < aestetix> hahaha
01:42 < aestetix> man
01:42 < aestetix> these riots are hard to watch
01:42 < aestetix> I speak as someone who has lived in Baltimore and in Ferguson
01:49 <@klixa> why the hell did you live in ferguson?
01:50 < aestetix> klixa: school
01:51 <@klixa> the curse of aestetix
01:51 <@klixa> everywhre you have lived is gonna have a riot
01:52 < aestetix> apparently
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02:33 < aestetix> wow there is a subreddit /r/analink
02:33 < aestetix> for asshole tattoos
02:37 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/342bjd/tattoo_artists_and_body_piercers_of_reddit_what/
02:37 < aestetix> "So he goes to disrobe and from his waist to his mid thigh he is covered in Disney tattoos. Like covered. Donald Duck, Micky mouse, Pluto, the whole gang."
02:37 < PigBot> Title: reddit.com: over 18? (at www.reddit.com)
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07:38 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:19 <@rattle> God damn, I had fun in SF during RSA..
08:20 <@Evilpig> rattle: as much fun as virgil is having in singapore?
08:21 <@rattle> Not sure, I haven't synced up with Virgil in awhile..  But I did hear he was out there.
08:21 <@rattle> There was hacker sailing!  Decius, myself, and another ex-ISS'er sailed a very large chunk of the bay in a nice 40'er..  That was nice.
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08:27 < aestetix> rattle: did you make the IDESG panel?
08:27 < aestetix> I emailed Decius with info about it
08:28 <@rattle> No, I wasn't able to.  Logistics were not in my favor.
08:28 < aestetix> oh well
08:29 <@rattle> I was doing pretty much constant meetings and "run-ins" over the course of the week, interspersed with meeting up with folks I haven't seen in like ten years.
08:29 <@rattle> It was a really great week.
08:30 <@rattle> I also wasn't cruising with a full conference pass, so that limited my ability to see most talks, which frankly I didn't care much about.
08:31  * aestetix nods
08:39 <@Evilpig> finished bates motel.  guess I should head down and check the computer room to make sure it's all straight
08:40 < dfused> do you smell smoke?
08:40 < aestetix> rattle: have you read The Gilded Age?
08:40 <@Evilpig> nah.  we have a tour group coming today and I need to make sure it's all straightened up
08:40 < dfused> oh...yeah thats diff
08:45 <@rattle> A very long time ago..
08:45 <@rattle> My next read (when I can find the time) is going to be Stevenson's new book.  I love his novels..
08:45 <@rattle> They posted the first 26 pages online, and I'm already addicted.
08:51 <@Evilpig> http://ubereats.co/eats/nyc
08:51 < PigBot> Title: UberEATS New York (at ubereats.co)
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13:35 < aestetix> oh man
13:35 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/344b3o/anyone_with_tattoos_and_the_watch_please_read/
13:35 < PigBot> Title: Anyone with tattoos and the watch please read. : apple (at www.reddit.com)
13:35 < aestetix> apple didn't test the awatch against tatoos
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13:59 <@Dagmar> wow
13:59 <@Dagmar> This gmae thread about dbus is pretty amusing
14:08 < RangerZ> ?
14:10 <@Dagmar> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1930358/focus=1939166
14:10 < PigBot> Title: Gmane Loom (at thread.gmane.org)
14:10 <@Dagmar> Basically, it's coming back to haunt people that dbus was never really designed well in the first place and spends all day doing a bunch of malloc stuff
14:11 <@Dagmar> Some of the other stuff in the thread boggles my ind
14:12 <@Dagmar> ...although I don't know which is worse... that it took 4 seconds to pass 1,000 messages, or that someone spent some time cleaning it up and reduced that by 50%
14:12 <@Dagmar> What on earth could be the reason it's slower than crypt() operations, but isn't doing anything except tossing messages back and forth?
14:13 < RangerZ> personally I really like the binder framework from android thats been integrated into the kernel now
14:13 < RangerZ> but the problem with -really- using that.... is that you need an application manager
14:16 <@Dagmar> i'm kind of of the opinion that whoever it was talking about context switching causing this slowdown, was high
14:16 <@Dagmar> Context switching shouldn't add that much wasted time
14:17 < RangerZ> in general... yes... context switching IS one of the most expensive operations any computer does now a days
14:17 < RangerZ> but that needs to be taken into consideration... plus the fact that at MOST each process only gets 20ms in a row... then ... guess what... context switch, lol
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14:22 <@Dagmar> It's supposed to be tossing messages, not engaging in deep, philosophical analysis of their deeper meaning.
14:32 < RangerZ> hehe
14:48 <@Evilpig> just in case any of you were wondering.  "vesda systems might be able to detect a fart, but they don't care"
14:49 <@Evilpig> this from our facilities guy
14:49 <@Evilpig> however, if you light that same fart... it will notice
14:53 <@Dagmar> Oh holy crap the mischief I could get into with this http://imgur.com/gallery/TdxJqYE
14:53 < PigBot> Title: Autobots....roll out! - GIF on Imgur (at imgur.com)
14:54 <@Dagmar> Take a double-parked car and move it to the back of the parking lot
15:00 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I want one!
15:03 < _NSAKEY> I need that more than you guys.
15:07 <@Dagmar> I would also use it to swap vehicles of an identical make & model near each other
15:07 <@Dagmar> ...so let's not get any ideas that my usage would be all about some kind of justice
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15:38 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: yeah, but you already have big machines to do that
15:39 < RangerZ> plus people's driveways aren't going to be as flat/smooth as that parking garage, lol
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15:56 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That actually has its uses in parking garages.
15:57 < _NSAKEY> Some of them don't offer enough clearance.
15:57 < RangerZ> ahh
15:58 < RangerZ> I've actually seen a hand cranked version of this
15:59 < RangerZ> a guy made it to be able to park his car in a slot big enough to 'fit' his car, but NEVER park it, etc
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17:43 < RangerZ> jesus... you know... I hate when I look up a topic... and even Wikipedia is like "fuck you son, you don't get no help from us"
17:47 < RangerZ> when 7 of the top 9 google/youtube results are direct links to Doug's videos/PDFs...  (topic is half sync/half async) and wanted a "second point of view"  ...
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18:11 < RangerZ> Dagmar: "RWBY Hiatus Countdown:   As of today, April 28th, 2015, we are currently 100 days from the premiere of volume three of RWBY"
18:11 < RangerZ> :/
18:12 < RangerZ> firs time ever tumblr was useful http://rwbyhiatuscountdownblog.tumblr.com/
18:12 < PigBot> Title: RWBY HIATUS COUNTDOWN: 100 DAYS (at rwbyhiatuscountdownblog.tumblr.com)
18:12 < RangerZ> lol
18:14 <@opticron> sweet, I hadn't heard that a 3rd season was happening
18:16 <@oddball> huh... anyone heard of this issue before: Win8 machine where the mouse and keyboard will just stop responding for a couple seconds... and then be fine.
18:22 < RangerZ> oddball: yeah, could be a lot of little 'fuck you' issues, from driver, to.... driver... , to software, to HDD bottleneck (supposedly)
18:22 < RangerZ> I had that issue on win 7 for a while
18:23 < _NSAKEY> That's what you get for using windows.
18:23 <@oddball> bah... that's kind of what I was thinking.
18:23 < aestetix> what is RWBY
18:23 < RangerZ> and thats the results I came up with, basically I solved my issue by rebuilding my machine, and it went away (because before that I couldn't figure it out, and the rebuild came at a great time)
18:23 < RangerZ> RWBY is an american machinama-anime
18:24 <@oddball> By the way, apparently Win8 has an option to sutomatically turn off USB ports "to conserve power."  Turning that feature off helped, but my buddy said that the issue is still happening.
18:24 < RangerZ> it uses 3D poly characters to make an animated series
18:24 < RangerZ> its a good series, with good combat, good characters, and a good sense of humor/timing
18:25 < RangerZ> oddball: check all drivers
18:25 < RangerZ> after that... reformat
18:25 <@oddball> Of course, the guy also said "awesome! you've done a hell of a lot better than my buddy that maintains Crey equipment!" :)
18:25 < RangerZ> and 'try again'
18:25 < RangerZ> lol
18:25 <@oddball> Yeah.. next step is probably "ok, i'm going to nuke the drivers"
18:26 <@oddball> ah.... step 2 in Windows troubleshooting... "re-install" (step 1 is "reboot")
18:26 < RangerZ> hehe
18:26 < _NSAKEY> oddball: At what point do you put a few rounds through it, like that guy who made the news recently?
18:26 < RangerZ> also... tonight is NashFP (Functional Programming) if anyone is interested
18:26 < RangerZ> starts at 6pm,
18:27 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: he's too poor for that shit
18:27 < RangerZ> we all are
18:27 <@oddball> I'll leave that up to him... his actual job is the photographer for gun ads.
18:27 <@oddball> Dude has an obscene amount of guns since he often gets guns he likes as part of his payment.
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18:37 <@Dagmar> Damn Maverick walked riiiight into this one
18:37 < _NSAKEY> Does anyone here have experience debugging apparmor profiles?
18:37 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Turn on verbose complaining
18:38 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Is this verbose enough? https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher/issues/177
18:38 < PigBot> Title: /usr/bin/env: error while loading shared libraries: cannot apply additional memory protection after relocation: Permission denied · Issue #177 · micahflee/torbrowser-launcher · GitHub (at github.com)
18:38 < _NSAKEY> I figured out that it was an AppArmor problem pretty quickly, but can't find much about the "c" masks.
18:38 <@opticron> oddball, yeah...test the hdd, I've seen failing drives manifest that way
18:38 < _NSAKEY> I imagine it's a matter of putting a "w" on one line somewhere.
18:39 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: This comes up enough there is almost certainly a fix for it
18:39 <@Dagmar> So... Maverick's reasoning is this: "error while loading shared libraries: cannot
18:39 <@Dagmar> blah no wait
18:39 <@Dagmar> "This constant crap about an unarmed person being shot is just that - crap. Nowhere does it state that you can only shoot someone if they're also armed with a firearm. It's really quite simple... If they're in a position to take your life (or even potentially take your life), all bets are off. What is so difficult to understand about that?"
18:39 <@oddball> opticron: oof... really?  This is a pretty new rig, but I'll check that.
18:40 <@Dagmar> My response is that this is a perfectly valid justification for bystanders to shoot said cop.
18:41 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: What's funny is that someone in a forum thread I found uses your hacker inside logo as an avatar.
18:41 <@Dagmar> It was an image that needed to happen, so of course it's spread far & wide in this many years
18:43 <@oddball> Dagmar: It *can* be valid to shoot an unarmed person, if it's reasonable to believe that you were in immediate threat of death/grevious bodily harm, and that's normal citizen.  Cops tend to have further leeway.
18:43 <@oddball> Say... if the guy was bashing your head against the sidewalk.
18:43 <@oddball> This shit in Baltimore, on the other hand?  Yeah... no.
18:44 <@Dagmar> Well, if a cop just killed someone unarmed trying to run away, and you're standing there unarmed, who's to say you aren't next/
18:44 <@Dagmar> That Mav posts this tells me he probably doesn't know how the dude in Baltimore actually died
18:44 <@oddball> Right.  That example doesn't fit the "immediate threat" condition.
18:45 <@Dagmar> It's also apparently a _pattern_ in Baltimore
18:45 <@oddball> but... but... It's just a couple bad apples!
18:45 <@Dagmar> I saw a list of four other rather recent incidents of the same thing going down
18:46 <@oddball> lalalalala! bad apples! lalalalalalala!
18:46  * oddball is so glad that he lives in a town with a police cheif that doesn't take shit from those under him.
18:47 <@Dagmar> Hear hear
18:47 <@Dagmar> I like our guy, and I like our cops
18:48 <@Dagmar> They can be a bit nosy at times, but that's about the worst I have to say about 'em
18:49 <@oddball> Had a couple of them called to my house the Thursday before the NRA convention.  They seemed like nice guys.  Were polite and pleasent to my buddy that was grabbing something from his car in front of my house while carrying when they showed up.
18:50 <@Dagmar> What?  They didn't just assume he was about to go on a multi-state killing spree?
18:50 <@oddball> (couple gun bloggers got into town before 7am, parked in front of my house and decided to nap in the car instead of wake me.  Pretty sure a concerned parent called that in when the bus picked up their kids for school)
18:51 <@oddball> Of course, it probably helped that my buddy didn't start screaming "am I being detained?!"
18:52 <@oddball> Instead, I believe the initial statement was "I bet you want to see some ID."
18:52 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Hahahaha. The only time I ever did that was at some dump of an apartment complex in Madison, and that guy was just a rent-a-cop who was pretending to be with Metro.
18:52 <@oddball> ah... rent-a-cops.
18:52 < _NSAKEY> That guy wasn't happy when I told him that until he showed me a metro badge, he could go fuck himself re: seeing my ID.
18:52 < _NSAKEY> He kept pushing the cop angle, so I grabbed my phone and was like, "Let's just get some real cops out here and verify your status."
18:53 < _NSAKEY> Would you believe he started to act like he was going to go for his gun?
18:53 <@oddball> Oh, I believe it.
18:53 <@oddball> They have a nasty tendency to forget that they're not real boys.
18:54 <@Dagmar> Well, I wouldn't say that, but they definitely have a tendency to overstate/overstep their authority.
18:54 < _NSAKEY> I made it clear to him that I wouldn't have any moral problems 1) Taking his gun off of him, 2) Shooting both him and the maintenance guy who were trying to hold me up, and 3) Calling metro and telling them that they both tried to kidnap me.
18:55 <@Dagmar> Less messy to have him arrested for impersonating a police officer.
18:55 < _NSAKEY> He didn't want to play that game, so he backed off.
18:55 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Irrelevant, since he could pull his gun out a lot faster than my phone could make the call.
18:55 < _NSAKEY> Nevermind having a cop car show up.
18:56 <@Dagmar> Stuff like this is why the moment someone approaches me, I start recording
18:56 < _NSAKEY> He was a little shrimpy guy too, and clearly unsure of himself.
18:56 <@oddball> That whole "when seconds count, they're just minutes away" thing.
18:56 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Yup. I reasoned that it would have been easier to wrestle with him for his gun, stab him somewhere in the process, then take it from him and finish the job.
18:56 < _NSAKEY> But he didn't want to play.
18:57 < _NSAKEY> If he had been a real cop, I would have coughed up an ID right away because of the stop and identify laws.
18:57 <@oddball> yep
18:57 < _NSAKEY> But some rent-a-cop with a notepad? Hahaha, no.
18:58 < _NSAKEY> That guy was so comical too. He even had a bulletproof vest on.
18:58 <@oddball> I'm trying to remember if I have to notify a cop that I'm carrying in this state.  I do just out of politeness, but...
18:58 < _NSAKEY> I can't imagine being that scared all the time.
18:58 <@Dagmar> Inglewood?
18:59 < _NSAKEY> oddball: As I understand it, you give them your carry permit instead of driver's license, right?
18:59 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: It was actually Madison, I believe. It's been about 5 years, so it might have been Inglewood.
18:59 <@oddball> Nope.  You have to have both on you if you're driving and carrying.
18:59 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I meant like if you're just out walking on the street or something.
18:59 < _NSAKEY> If driving, it would make sense to have both, even if you're not carrying.
19:00 <@oddball> Oh.  Yeah.  If the cop asks for it, you have to provide the carry permit.
19:00 < _NSAKEY> Just because that sounds like one of those things that would put a cop at ease.
19:00 < _NSAKEY> Even if you're just all, "I'm not carrying at the moment, but here's my carry permit."
19:00 <@oddball> Well, the cop's computer will tell him immediately if you've got a carry permit if he runs your tags or license.
19:01 <@Dagmar> Z can't help but think if the guy were less aggressive he probably wouldn't as often wind up in the types of situations that make him think he needs a vest
19:01 <@Dagmar> ...but Inglewood.
19:01 < _NSAKEY> oddball: But not disclosing would be the time you got some antsy cop who freaks out over not immediately disclosing something like that.
19:01 <@oddball> I forgot to say anything when I got stopped for a busted headlight.  The cop asked if I was carrying (I wasn't), and that was it.
19:01 < _NSAKEY> I got stopped in La Vergne one time for speeding. First ticket ever.
19:02 < _NSAKEY> I thought I was being efficient by reaching in the glovebox to have my insurance paperwork ready for the guy... Nope.
19:02 <@oddball> Right, but I can't remember if it's just a good idea or the law in this state.  Some states it is, some states it's not.
19:02 < _NSAKEY> That added another 15 minutes to my stop's time, because he called for backup.
19:02 < _NSAKEY> This same chickenshit got kicked off the force less than a year later for making the news.
19:02 <@Dagmar> Heh.  You'd think I was underwater judging by the way I move until the cop is sufficiently relaxed
19:03 <@oddball> And then you have Ohio, where apparently it's not the law, but it's apparently reasonable for a cop to freak the fuck out and tell you that he should shoot you in the face on principle if you don't mention it immediately.
19:03 < _NSAKEY> When he made the news, it came out that he liked to do things like handcuff suspects and point shotguns at them, while taunting them to do something about it.
19:04 <@oddball> Oh, yeah... if you get pulled over, it's really best to just sit there with your hands at 10 and 2 until told otherwise.
19:04 < _NSAKEY> I had to be 20 or so at the time.
19:04 <@Dagmar> It's 9 and 3 now
19:05 < _NSAKEY> But once he realized that I did not, in fact, reach for a grenade launcher, he decided to give me some tips if I ever got stopped again.
19:05 <@Dagmar> At 10 and 2 if the airbags go off, apparently you'll be eating your own knuckles
19:05 <@oddball> "in plain view"
19:05 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar is right.
19:05 < _NSAKEY> That's a new thing, as of a few years ago.
19:05 <@oddball> right.  I think I heard about that.
19:05 < _NSAKEY> As I recall, 8 and 4 work as well.
19:06 <@oddball> yep.
19:06 < _NSAKEY> I've gotten stopped since then, and prefer 11 and 1. Then they can't cry about not being able to see my hands.
19:06 <@Dagmar> I still can't believe i'm going to have to replace a tire because of pothole damage
19:06 < _NSAKEY> To be clear, I only prefer 11 and 1 while stopped by a cop.
19:06 <@Dagmar> Personally I prefer 3 and "one arm resting on the windowsill with a cigarette"
19:08 < _NSAKEY> I just looked at the time, and realized I haven't eaten since this morning. No wonder I've got a headache.
19:08 < _NSAKEY> I thought it was just from staring at these apparmor profiles for too long.
19:08 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: and with a head like that, of course it's gonna hurt
19:08 <@Dagmar> I recognize that feeling
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19:44 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Did you see my bsides talk video, or are you just tossing out random insults for its own sake?
19:47 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I keep seeing references to a gcc patch to facilitate RELRO (read-only protection after relocation)
19:47 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: torbrowser-launcher worked just fine until today's update to 4.5.
19:48 <@Dagmar> So check it's deb file and see what changed between builds
19:49 < _NSAKEY> The package itself hasn't changed.
19:49 < _NSAKEY> It's just a wrapper to run TBB, and it auto-updates and verifies the signature.
19:49 <@Dagmar> Well then you don't have a problem if the package didn't change
19:49 <@Dagmar> _Something_ changed
19:49 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, in TBB.
19:49 < _NSAKEY> Which is distinct from the package in this case.
19:49 < _NSAKEY> It's an odd set of circumstances.
19:49 <@Dagmar> My guess that maybe the new binary wasn't buildt with the gcc flags
19:50 < _NSAKEY> I isolated it down to one apparmor profile complaining.
19:53 < _NSAKEY> There are something like 4 profiles that come with torbrowser-launcher, and I set all to enforce and disabled/re-enabled one at a time until I found the one that's causing the immediate problem.
19:54 <@Dagmar> This partiuclar issue is either very poorly documented or I'm not getting very lucky in finding people discussing it
19:55 < _NSAKEY> The update happened today.
19:55 < _NSAKEY> I looked at the next oldest ticket on that github and thought it was related, but it looks like it isn't.
19:55 < _NSAKEY> I didn't see anything in the profile that stood out, regarding the dir paths.
19:56 <@Dagmar> i'm not very certain if apparmor should be _trying_ that
19:57 <@Dagmar> It looks like the gcc relro patches already cover it
19:57 < _NSAKEY> What it's confining is basically a glorified startup script.
19:58 < _NSAKEY> For people who enjoy running "aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d./*" it's a problem, but for others... Not so much.
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20:17  * aestetix rants about python
20:17  * frosty_ rants about infoblox
20:21 <@Dagmar> Yeah!  Infoblox is evil!
20:21 <@Dagmar> Someone needs to sit down and divide cleanly the things which will be handled automatically, and the things which will require itemized attention
20:22 <@Dagmar> ...because when I last used it, if you created a child zone, and then deleted it, you'd wind up with ns pointers you couldn't remove from the parent zone.
20:22 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure how that's _supposed_ to happen, but being unable to delete those pointers is pretty evil
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21:14 <@Evilpig> Dagmar, oddball: operators at vandy just told me that ed's last day was today.
21:22 <@oddball> That's sad
21:22 <@oddball> Although... good for him for flying the coop finally.
21:22 <@northrup> Wait... I was at his going away party today
21:24 <@northrup> Nice cake, glad to see he's flying the coop after 41 years
21:24 <@Dagmar> Damn if I'd have known I'd have shown up to see him off
21:25 <@oddball> Yeah... me too.
21:25 <@northrup> Evilpig: So you didn't get to go to his party?
21:26 <@Evilpig> northrup: do you secretly own a machine capable of quantum entanglement that can traverse a couple hundred miles?
21:27 <@northrup> Heh... I wish I did... that or had a better memory to remember that you were no where close!
21:27 <@Evilpig> hehe
21:27 <@Evilpig> I was leading a tour today
21:28 <@Evilpig> our facilities liason took the tour group to see the switchgear room and frankly i'm shocked that he did and I was ready to piss myself the entire time we were in there
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21:28 <@northrup> Nice! Please tell me it's something sexy like Arista switches....
21:29 <@Evilpig> there's just something about equipment with lables like 3000A and "minimum safe distance 96 inches" that tends to make me say .... "OH HELLLLL NO"
21:29 <@northrup> oh, POWER switching room
21:30 <@Evilpig> it was neat seeing that the solar plant on the roof was cranking out 2MW today
21:31 <@northrup> Whoa, how many pannels are there to crank out 2MW?
21:31 <@Evilpig> also learned that the facility has an agreement with con edison that if they call and request we get off the grid we do
21:31 <@Evilpig> they said the area up there is the size of an aircraft carrier and has a maximum generation potential of 2.5MW
21:31 <@northrup> That was always the fun part about Vandy in the summer... Nashville Electric "We need you off the grid, it's being too taxed right now"
21:32 <@Evilpig> total capacity for the facility that i'm in is 32MW so yeah... it's big
21:33 <@Evilpig> you can kind of get a sense for the size of it in this picture.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/iygrcldi5hy1h9g/2015-04-28%2011.56.44.jpg?dl=0
21:34 <@northrup> That's niiiice
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22:26  * RangerZ rants about frosty_  and Dagmar ranting 
22:26 < RangerZ> ;)
23:20 < aestetix> holy shit
23:21 < aestetix> I live 15 minutes away from the Berlin  Wall
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