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00:26 <@Dagmar> Madison: One of the last places with a bar to have 'NO COLOREDS' stencil-sprayed on their front door.
00:26 <@Dagmar> No joke.  In my lifetime even..
00:28 < RangerZ> Dagmar: jesus... you're not kidding are you...
00:28 <@Dagmar> Nope
00:28 <@Dagmar> I saw it when I was about 6-7.  Had to ask my Dad what it meant
00:28 <@Dagmar> He was not amused
00:29 < RangerZ> did you know?
00:29 <@Dagmar> My parents literally moved away from the extended/nuclear familiy in Columbia to get away from that stuff
00:29 < RangerZ> like you were trolling
00:29 <@Dagmar> Dude, I was five or six
00:29 <@Dagmar> You generally have no idea people can be that dim when you're that age
00:29 < RangerZ> ohh bless your heart... you didn't know my aunt
00:29 <@Dagmar> Like, one summer when me and my brother were staying at grandma's in Columbia, the subject of swimming pools came up
00:29 < RangerZ> LOL
00:30 <@Dagmar> She told us the pool she'd normally take us to was closed, and we wouldn't want to go to the other one because "coloreds were in it"
00:30 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Was the pool closed due to AIDS?
00:30 <@Dagmar> We just sort of let that slide as something confusing adults say
00:31 <@Dagmar> All I could think was maybe the water was full of jeri-curl or something
00:31 <@Dagmar> So... when I say I am not a racist, I damn well mean it
00:32 <@Dagmar> I won't tolerate gibbering about passive racism, or "unconcious racism" or any of that bullshit being pointed in my direction because I wasn't raised that way and I will absolutely NOT tolerate that shit
00:32 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I think the pool was closed due to maintenance or something
00:33 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pools-closed
00:33 < PigBot`> Title: Pool's Closed | Know Your Meme (at knowyourmeme.com)
00:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah well... This was very much pre-internet
00:33 <@Dagmar> Fucking phones were crossbar, man
00:33 <@Dagmar> You know the phones with that round thing on the front that confuses you people?
00:33 <@Dagmar> Those.
00:33 < _NSAKEY> The rotary dial?
00:34 <@Dagmar> Yes.
00:34 <@Dagmar> Mechanical switches, incredibly crude mechanisms
00:34 < _NSAKEY> I know a guy who still has one of those at his business, that he keeps just for nostalgia's sake.
00:34 < _NSAKEY> I couldn't remember how to use it, even though my grandmother had a rotary phone in her house when I was a kid.
00:34 <@Dagmar> It's one of the examples I point to when I try to explain to people that _some_ things which they hold to be "true" are no longer anywhere near true just because of the advances in materials science
00:35 < _NSAKEY> In-band signaling was probably still a thing then, too.
00:35 < _NSAKEY> I've read that this area was one of the last to start taking security of the phone network seriously.
00:35 < _NSAKEY> By this area, I mean anything BellSouth touched.
00:37 <@Dagmar> Yes, I was almost out of high school before we got ESS here
00:38 <@Dagmar> The MCI dial-through used _five-digit codes_
00:41 < _NSAKEY> I've had to listen to so much random crying because Nashville finally has to do 10 digit dialing.
00:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I've no noticed since it's been optional for ages and everything in my contacts list has all the digits
00:42 <@Dagmar> like, I knew it was happening, but didn't give a damn
00:42 < _NSAKEY> Same here, and I've been in the habit of dialing all the digits since high school.
00:43 < _NSAKEY> It's just funny to hear these old people complain about it. My favorite answer is that Nashville was one of the last "real" markets to hold out with 7 digit dialing.
00:43 <@Dagmar> It took us awhile to run out of prefixes
00:45 < RangerZ> I remember my great grandfather telling me about when phone numbers were only 5 digits
00:46 < _NSAKEY> There are some rural parts of the state that had 5 digit dialing 20+ years ago.
00:46 < RangerZ> well "name" + 4 digits
00:46 < RangerZ> ours why SKY+ 4 digits to the house
00:46 < RangerZ> was*
01:05 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: This Pokemon RUmble World thing isn't bad
02:50 <@Dagmar> znf: Because you're binding the match to the / character, not the " one
03:37 < RangerZ> from the swingers' church article which I finally read... “The parties have been huge since all this has happened,” he said. “It’s been outstanding, standing-room only.” ...except those chained to the floor/wall (of course)
04:02 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
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09:53 <@Mirage> Evilpig: "The voices" was a fucked up movie.
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10:40 < aestetix> http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/obama-has-waited-longer-for-cabinet-confirmations-than-any-other-recent-president/
10:40 < PigBot`> Title: Obama Has Waited Longer For Cabinet Confirmations Than Any Other Recent President | FiveThirtyEight (at fivethirtyeight.com)
10:40 < aestetix> thanks GOP
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11:16 < Synx|hm> wtf windows, my status bar moved from my main monitor to a side monitor even though screen settings show this one as my main
11:17 < Synx|hm> its fucking up launching cygwin terminals from the bar
11:17 < Synx|hm> anyways, who got their google fi invite requests in already :)
11:17 < Synx|hm> because i did
11:21 < aestetix> what exctly IS google fi
11:21 < aestetix> the video is useless
11:22 < RangerZ> its virgin mobile
11:22 < RangerZ> reseller of sprint cell phone service
11:23 < aestetix> how is that new or novel?
11:23 < RangerZ> no clue
11:23 < RangerZ> esp. since I _have_ virgin mobile, and pay 50$ after taxes for unlimited everything I care about and 1200 minutes/mo
11:24 <@sasquatc3> yea i dont get it either, compared to existing mvno's it only seems worth it if you actually need unlimited minutes/texts
11:24 <@sasquatc3> which most people dont and barely use their existing minutes
11:24 < Synx|hm> its the roaming that has me interested not that id really use it
11:24 < Synx|hm> its $20 for base unlimited text/calling
11:25 < Synx|hm> cheap international calling per normal google voice
11:25 < Synx|hm> and has some sort of possibly free international roaming too
11:25 < Synx|hm> now what im curious about is, how does it work with both t-mobile and sprint backbones using a gsm nexus 6?
11:25 < Synx|hm> how do you get on sprints cdma network?
11:25 < RangerZ> 4g
11:26 < RangerZ> sprint's 4g is compliant with tmobiles IIRC
11:26 < Synx|hm> so you only have access to sprints lte network not their 3g cdma network?
11:26 < RangerZ> OR it is dual SIM/dual antenna phone
11:26 < RangerZ> they are pretty common in Asia
11:26 < Synx|hm> google says "special sim card for dual carrier" however that does not help with a cdma radio
11:27 < RangerZ> dual radio isn't _that_ hard to do
11:27 < RangerZ> just most don't bother
11:27 < Synx|hm> so the question is then does the nexus 6 have a dual radio
11:27 < Synx|hm> because the phone is already out and its the only one you can at the moment use with Fi
11:28 < RangerZ> no clue
11:28 < Synx|hm> both sprint and t-mobile have 1.9Ghz bands according to fcc so i assume thats the lte networks?
11:28 < RangerZ> CDMA band class: 0/1/10
11:28 < RangerZ> WCDMA bands: 1/2/4/5/8
11:28 < RangerZ> LTE bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41
11:28 < RangerZ> CA DL bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29
11:29 < RangerZ> looks like it
11:29 < RangerZ> 41 is tmobile LTE IIRC
11:29 < Synx|hm> ahh well there you go
11:30 < Synx|hm> looks like there are two different nexus 6 btw, XT1103 targeted for North America, and XT1100 for world
11:31 <@opticron> as far as cdma goes, recent devices that have SIMs for LTE behave just the same as gsm devices. you can move the RUIM (CDMA SIM) to another phone and have service transfer just fine
11:31 <@opticron> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removable_User_Identity_Module
11:31 < PigBot`> Title: Removable User Identity Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
11:31 < RangerZ> first time in history the NA phones had MORE bands the phone would work with... lol
11:31 < RangerZ> (not really, but you get my point)
11:31 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: funny you mention that i just ready that note having thought it was the other way around lol
11:32 <@sasquatc3> i would think the nexus6 has dual radios
11:32 <@sasquatc3> i know my nexus 5 does
11:32 < aestetix> wow
11:32 < aestetix> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/no-job-pay-up-belarus-imposes-fines-for-being-unemployed/518581.html
11:32 < PigBot`> Title: No Job? Pay Up. Belarus Imposes Fines for Being Unemployed | News | The Moscow Times (at www.themoscowtimes.com)
11:32 < aestetix> if you read this article, they have the exact opposite issue the US has
11:33 < Synx|hm> only thing it doesnt have is carrier aggregation for sprints lte bands
11:33 < Synx|hm> but does have access to sprints 2.5Ghz "spark" network
11:35 < Synx|hm> anyways back to the point
11:35 < Synx|hm> i cant wait to tell sprint to fuck off so i can pay less to abuse their network
11:35 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: you can right now
11:35 < Synx|hm> and gain wifi and i assume VoLTE
11:35 < RangerZ> thats what virgin mobile is, lol
11:35 < RangerZ> but... it still uses their network, lol
11:36 <@sasquatc3> so which of these mvno's have good unlimited? right now ive been happy with ting since my 25-33$ bills, but i also watch my data usage, usually not much of an issue though
11:36 < Synx|hm> right right, just would rather jump off right to fi
11:36 < Synx|hm> i really need a new (or used) phone though my note ii is rather long in the tooth
11:37 < RangerZ> sasquatc3: virgin mobile has 1.5/2.5 GB/mo at 4g then rest of month it drops to 3G speeds(which is unlimited)
11:37 < RangerZ> which isn't 'bad' , compared to others
11:38 < Synx|hm> its not bad until you realize you'd have a better chance of getting data via telegraph then getting it over sprints 3g network
11:38 < Synx|hm> seriously when i drop to 3g its near useless
11:38 < Synx|hm> though im sure part of that is the 4g radio trying desperatly to get lock and timing out connections
11:38 < RangerZ> yep
11:38 < RangerZ> I just disable my 4g
11:38 < RangerZ> unless I am downtown
11:38 < Synx|hm> smart
11:39 < Synx|hm> curious at bridgestone last night fucking zero sprint service
11:39 < Synx|hm> was a depressing place to be for a chicago fan last night btw
11:39 < Synx|hm> what a disaster
11:39 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: where isn't a depressing place for chicago fans?
11:40 < Synx|hm> you kidding me, the hawks since 2009-2010 season have been on fire
11:40 < RangerZ> what is hawks?
11:40 < RangerZ> they rename the bulls?
11:40 < Synx|hm> blackhawks, nhl
11:40 < RangerZ> nhl = nihilism ?
11:40 < Synx|hm> preds have been great past two years however they have never made it past round 2 of playoffs
11:40 < RangerZ> ;) lol
11:40 < Synx|hm> ya thats is
11:41 < Synx|hm> my sarcasim meter is broken this morning, spent the morning at the ENT with the kid
11:41 < RangerZ> *shrugs* I just can't get into NHL
11:41 < Synx|hm> and yesterday on the couch with an allergic reaction to either drugs or possibly food
11:41 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: allergic to O2
11:41 < Synx|hm> not many in southern states can
11:42 < Synx|hm> allergic to what life has become in the world, slaving away for some other asshole
11:42 < Synx|hm> and paying taxes
11:42 < RangerZ> I grew up with 2 minor league teams in my home town
11:42 < Synx|hm> for a govt that is full of twats
11:42 < Synx|hm> not many, some but not many ;)
11:42 < Synx|hm> shreveport had a minor league team that the city was all behind until they left few years back
11:43 < Synx|hm> shreveport of all fucking cities loved hockey when the mudbugs where there
11:43 < RangerZ> then they consolidated into just the Phantoms http://www.youngstownphantoms.com/
11:43 < PigBot`> Title: Youngstown Phantoms Hockey - Youngstown Phantoms (at www.youngstownphantoms.com)
11:43 < RangerZ> which were (are?) one of the top minor league teams
11:43 < Synx|hm> i grew up playing pond hockey in chicago though so im a bit predisposed to it
11:43 < RangerZ> nvm... #1 in conf.
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> so i've been in the new job for a few days now
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> and it's been pretty busy
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> but exciting
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> they issued me some pretty cool shit
11:44 < Synx|hm> ShadowHntr: where at? are they hiring? and nashville?
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> no not in Nashville
11:44 < RangerZ> you'll chuckle that the San Fran 49ers are one of the sponsors of the Youngstown hockey team
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> Ashburn, Virginia
11:44 <@ShadowHntr> a web hosting firm called BlackMesh
11:45 <@ShadowHntr> they are hiring, and they'll pay for relocation
11:45 < Synx|hm> cant move :(
11:45 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.blackmesh.com/career
11:45 < Synx|hm> tied to a radius around shitty louisiana
11:45 < PigBot`> Title: Our Culture | Blackmesh (at www.blackmesh.com)
11:45 < Synx|hm> but ill check it out
11:45 < Synx|hm> you have any remote employees
11:45 <@ShadowHntr> it's just outside Washington DC
11:45 <@ShadowHntr> a couple, but some work out of Las Vegas
11:47 < Synx|hm> opticron: i keep a career tab open that i check often for digium, i realize i was really not a great fit for that QA role was just so excited to get my resume infront of somebody at digium i figured it was worth a shot ;)
11:51 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: really?
11:53 <@opticron> :)
11:55 < aestetix> well
11:55 < aestetix> I just got an email from the guy who created GPG saying that a government issued ID is NOT a requirement for key signing parties
11:56 < RangerZ> but how will you be able to prove your real name?
11:56 < RangerZ> *troll face* ;)
12:06 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: He'll show up with his ridiculous hat and John Lennon sunglasses, and point them to the Harvard video.
12:07 < _NSAKEY> Nobody would be goofy enough to copy his look.
12:08 < RangerZ> the only good thing about the US drone warfare era being so far gone... is that aestetix can be declared as giving material support to an enemy of the state (Snowden) and taken out by a person in Utah with a joystick
12:08 < RangerZ> lol
12:09 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You may want to invest in one of these: http://www.dronesurvivalguide.org/
12:09 < PigBot`> Title: Drone Survival Guide (at www.dronesurvivalguide.org)
12:10 < _NSAKEY> I wonder how the US laws against pointing lasers at aircraft would play if you replace "aircraft" with "drone."
12:11 < Synx|hm> i hope the same because if you miss the drone you could still hit somebody else
12:11 < _NSAKEY> Since aestetix is no longer here, that question is kind of academic.
12:12 < Synx|hm> we've been lazed a few times in my unit nothing to mess around with
12:12 < aestetix> lol
12:12 < Synx|hm> people should be prosucuted to the full extent of the law for wielding lasers no matter if in the air or on the ground
12:12 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Have you been invited to any camover sessions yet?
12:13 < aestetix> what is camover?
12:13 < _NSAKEY> Germans destroying CCTVs.
12:13 < aestetix> ohhh I heard about that
12:13 < _NSAKEY> It started to become a thing a few years back.
12:13 < aestetix> I have not inquired
12:14 < _NSAKEY> I'll be around later.
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12:29 < Synx|hm> so i fit a ESP8266 (ESP-01) board inside of a usb wall charger including 5v to 3.3v regulator and a temp/humidity sensor on the outside
12:29 < Synx|hm> its been running for 3 days now making RESTful posts every 60sec
12:29 < Synx|hm> need to see its power usage
12:30 <@Evilpig> never thought about using a transparent background on my terminal sessions before.  kinda nice
12:31 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wukti6y8g5w4kww/Screen%20Shot%202015-04-24%20at%209.31.20%20AM.png?dl=0
12:32 < Synx|hm> fancy
12:32 < Synx|hm> i just switched my term to high transparent, not sure how i feel
12:32 <@Evilpig> I saw a screenshot from someone's terminal at work and I see that as being useful for shit at times
12:33 <@Evilpig> now I can see slack in the background but still see my terminals
12:33 <@Evilpig> guess I shoudl get a shower and arrange for a late checkout
12:34 < Synx|hm> i do like it for syslogs etc in the background
12:37 < Synx|hm> i picked up the new logitech mx master this week, im really digging the auto scroll feature
12:37 -!- Evilpig changed the topic of #se2600 to: Butts butts butts and that thing over there
12:37 < Synx|hm> scroll with enough force (adjustable) and the wheel unlocks and free spins, gently place your finger back on it and it locks back into ratchet scrolling
12:38 < Synx|hm> what im not crazy about are the two thumb buttons and the lower thumb pad "gesture" button
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12:55 <@Evilpig> alright.  really getting a shower and getting the fuck outta here now
12:55 <@Evilpig> later bitches
13:02 < aestetix> wait
13:02 < aestetix> there's something besides butts?
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13:04 < aestetix> so, python seems to be needlessly strict. is there such a thing as obfuscated python?
13:14 <@brimstone> pyc files?
13:28 < RangerZ> aestetix: WTF are you talking about python being strict?
13:29 < RangerZ> I would pay good money for non-duck/quack typing in python
13:29 < RangerZ> lol
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14:09 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dp1r4aKfeg there ya go
14:09 < PigBot`> Title: Raspberry Pi TOR/VPN Router - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:09 < RangerZ> lol
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16:03 < ware> anyone able to get me a file from cisco.com?
16:03 < ware> http://goo.gl/0f2Ye8 csc6.6.1125.0.bin
16:03 < PigBot`> Title: Cisco Systems (at goo.gl)
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17:55 <@brimstone> ftp://remote.xdf.net/csc6.6.1125.0.bin ?
18:01 < RangerZ> brimstone: wtf? lol
18:03 <@brimstone> RangerZ: lol wtf?
18:03 < RangerZ> your link
18:03 <@brimstone> oh, you were out for the ask
18:03 < RangerZ> ohh ok
18:03 < RangerZ> I was just like "um... what is this for?"
18:10 < ware> brimstone: ty
18:14 < ware> http://mewbies.com/acute_terminal_fun_telnet_public_servers_watch_star_wars_play_games_etc.htm
18:14 < PigBot`> Title: Fun On The Terminal - Telnet Star Wars, Games, Etc. (at mewbies.com)
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19:21 < _NSAKEY> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2BMHIoAEwE
19:21 < PigBot`> Title: Jail Inmate Pepper Sprayed While Fully Secured in Restraint Chair - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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20:36 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQwlfXdDDYA
20:36 < PigBot`> Title: Old Guy Putting Michigans Open Carry Gun Laws To The Test - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:39 < aestetix> I actually think that guy was in the right.
20:57 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha. This is beautiful so far.
20:57 < _NSAKEY> Not even 30 seconds in.
20:59 < _NSAKEY> Oh, so he can open carry as long as he never crosses any streets?
21:01 < _NSAKEY> Hahaha, this cop is soft.
21:06 < _NSAKEY> You can tell the cop absolutely hates the fact that the guy is in the right about carrying the rifle.
21:13 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/16/the-way-one-open-carry-advocate-acted-when-cops-confronted-him-had-them-vowing-to-go-to-the-supreme-court-on-this-baby/
21:13 < PigBot`> Title: The Way One Open-Carry Advocate Acted When Cops Confronted Him Had Them Vowing to Go to the U.S. Supreme [Court] on This Baby | Video | TheBlaze.com (at www.theblaze.com)
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22:07 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: yep, that was hilarious
22:07 < aestetix> the guy had the gun on his shoulder, pointed into the sky. it was not a threat
22:10 < aestetix> But yeah the 2nd amendment is behind that guy 100%
22:10 < _NSAKEY> It wasn't surprising when the gun turned out to not be loaded.
22:16 < aestetix> another reason I hated the bay area: everyone there opposes gun rights
22:18 < aestetix> How do you overextend your constitutional rights?
22:18 < aestetix> what does that mean
22:19 <@opticron> quit being a freedom glutton
22:19 <@opticron> sheesh
22:19 < aestetix> haha
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22:26 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Have you seen this? http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/baaad-attitude-prank-messaging-friends-and-enemies-with-goatattack-com/
22:26 < PigBot`> Title: [Updated] Baaad attitude: Prank-messaging friends (and enemies) with Goatattack.com | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
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23:13 <@Evilpig> did y'all talk about this yet?  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3050168/Revenge-dish-best-served-WET-Scorned-woman-dumps-lying-lover-s-entire-Apple-collection-bath-sent-pictures-prove-it.html
23:13 < PigBot`> Title: Japanese woman dumps lying lover's entire Apple collection in the bath | Daily Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
23:15 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Soo... Pokemon Rumble World.  Of the six "Adventurers" I've seen so far, it makes me feel like I've just walked into the women's restroom or something
23:15 <@Dagmar> Every damn one of them has been Japanese
23:16 <@Dagmar> I find them in the instances and a speech bubble of pure chickenscratch appears
23:17 <@Evilpig> I haven't even touched rumble world myself
23:18 <@Evilpig> I need a faster server.  waiting on it to transcode something from tonight to a smaller format so it will fit on my tablet
23:56 < _NSAKEY> What are you using now, Evilpig?
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