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00:39 < RangerZ> Warcop: if servers maintained themselves.... half this channel would be unemployed ;)
00:51 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
00:51 < RangerZ> lol
00:51 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I just went through a bunch of crap to try and eliminate something that will never happen
00:51 <@Dagmar> It FINALLY occurs to me...
00:52 <@Dagmar> Two timers, one which is precise and non-repeating, one which is precise but it does reliably repeat
00:52 <@Dagmar> The loose timer happens around the 30-second mark generally.
00:52 <@Dagmar> HOWEVER, since when the precise timer event triggers, it re-sets the loose timer to the next minute forward... that one will never trigger
00:52 <@Dagmar> ...not unless the precise timer somehow failed
00:53 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll leave the code in there
00:53 <@Dagmar> It's _theoretically_ possible the phone could come out of a sleep state and deliver both intents out of order
00:54 <@Dagmar> I have this shit moving like Kwai Chang Caine now
00:54 <@Dagmar> I flattened the layouts, cleaned up the caching stuff... practically nothing freaking happens that doesn't absolutely need to
00:55 <@Dagmar> Oooh.  I found a useful state tho
00:56 <@Dagmar> Tap one widget (when you're insane and have two up) and it goes into septicycle mode with an update scheduled in three seconds
00:56 <@Dagmar> _All_ the widgets being updated at once, the second instance at least can tell it doesn't need to redraw now
00:58 <@oddball> sweet! http://news.yahoo.com/justices-police-cant-extend-traffic-stop-awaiting-drug-142805661.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
00:58 < PigBot`> Title: Justices: Police can't extend traffic stop awaiting drug dog (at news.yahoo.com)
01:01 <@Dagmar> Nice
01:03 < RangerZ> wow, thats actually really nice
01:03 < RangerZ> now... I wonder if TSA 'security' (theater) could be next ;)
01:10 < _NSAKEY> I don't see how checking for outstanding warrants has anything to do with the safe operation of a vehicle.
01:11 < RangerZ> easy
01:12 < RangerZ> they could be driving violation warrants
01:12 < RangerZ> because you don't have the -right- to drive a motor vehicle
01:12 < RangerZ> which is a big part of why I'm in favor of self-driving cars, that I generally don't mention
01:13 < _NSAKEY> Slippery slope.
01:13 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure it's the exact same process as running your license to make sure it's valid.
01:13 < RangerZ> it will help the poor a lot more than it will really help the rich
01:13 < _NSAKEY> The same case could be made that checking for drugs is to ensure that the motorist isn't getting high behind the wheel.
01:13 < RangerZ> because losing your license due to inability to pay fees is MUCH more common for poor (obviously)
01:14 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: that would be if you failed a sobriety test
01:14 < RangerZ> still no need for drug dogs
01:14 < _NSAKEY> In general, traffic stops are rarely about actual safety, and more about generating revenue.
01:14 <@oddball> I'm curious how this will apply to check points.
01:14 < _NSAKEY> Especially around here.
01:14 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Same.
01:15 < _NSAKEY> Since the checkpoints have the canine shills on-site, it probably won't matter much.
01:15 < RangerZ> oddball: easy, the dog can search your car while the cop is running your ID
01:15 <@oddball> Sadly, you're probably correct.
01:15 < _NSAKEY> Unless the cop walks up to the car with the dog during the initial interaction.
01:15 < RangerZ> but the dog can only search 'around' your car
01:15 < _NSAKEY> There's also that.
01:16 < _NSAKEY> Someone should make the case that they had to "wait" for the drug dog to walk up, and that's unreasonable.
01:16 < RangerZ> unless you twitch incorrectly, and give 'probable cause' to have your asshole searched( along with car)
01:16 <@oddball> "K-9 units: because fuck the 4th Amendment."
01:16 < RangerZ> just wait
01:17 < RangerZ> they are only a few years away from artificial smell sensors
01:17 < RangerZ> to the point where they could set them to 'pot', etc and just issue one to every cop
01:17 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I will laugh hard if someone uses one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Mace-Muzzle-Canine-Repellent-keychain/dp/B002IEI2HE
01:17 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: The ruling stated that the amount of time it took to get the dog to the scene was inmaterial.  Doesn't matter if it takes 4 hours or 4 seconds.
01:17 < _NSAKEY> ... And tries to hide behind castle doctrine.
01:18 <@oddball> heh
01:18 < _NSAKEY> "Smell this, Rover!"
01:18 < RangerZ> ....and gets shot...
01:18 < RangerZ> because thats assaulting a LEO
01:18 < _NSAKEY> Some company makes/sells a pepper spray for dogs that completely wears off after 15 minutes.
01:19 < RangerZ> and NO ONE is going to come to the rescue legally of someone who hurts a COP-DOG
01:19 <@oddball> Of course, I believe we're now in a state where attacking a police dog is viewed the same as attacking a police officer.  Never mind that a cop can shoot your dog because it wagged its tail in an aggresive manner.
01:19 < _NSAKEY> That's what made that joke so much fun to make.
01:19 < RangerZ> its like the venn diagram of "things to NOT PISS OFF"
01:23 < _NSAKEY> Since we're talking about cops, did you guys hear about this? http://wkrn.com/2015/04/16/rutherford-county-mayor-speaks-out-about-controvery-surrounding-sheriff/
01:23 < PigBot`> Title: Rutherford County mayor speaks out about controversy surrounding sheriff | WKRN News 2 (at wkrn.com)
01:24 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foM9yca3qq8
01:24 < PigBot`> Title: Woman Recording Cop Activity Gets Cell Phone Aggressively Taken And Destroyed - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:26 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: That right there is why I have uStream and LiveStream installed on my phone
01:26 <@Dagmar> Good luck to anyone getting those off the servers before someone can get copies
01:28 < _NSAKEY> There's also the fact that technically, the video could probably still be recovered off the phone if someone was determined enough.
01:29 < _NSAKEY> "Someone said it, it must be true." This woman's hard-hitting commentary on modern news is perfect.
01:36 < RangerZ> yeah... she gives me all kinds of nerd boners... plus she's just really really pretty/smart/non-bible-thumper
03:14 < aestetix> so
03:14 < aestetix> the longer I'm in germany, the more I realize how fucking toxic the bay area is
03:15 < aestetix> I doubt places like nashville are anywhere near as bad
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09:16 < RangerZ> aestetix: http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/twitter-makes-tweaks-to-limit-abuse-and-abusers/ shit like this isn't going to help
09:16 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter Makes Tweaks To Limit Abuse And Abusers | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com)
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09:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: twitter is becoming increasingly stupid
09:33 < RangerZ> nah
09:33 < RangerZ> its just people who -read- twitter
09:33 < RangerZ> its a fine broadcast medium
09:33 < RangerZ> the problem is when people want to turn it into anything else, lol
09:39 < RangerZ> plus the over-sensitiveness of the people there in town when it comes to some issues
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11:53 < Synx|hm> who here knows anything about network processors, freescale c-5 chips?
11:54 < Synx|hm> they have not existed for a while and im curious if current server processing has gotten to the point that it can all be done in software using off the shelf nic's instead of requiring specific hardware like the c-5e
11:54 <@Evilpig> I know nothing...
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12:22 < aestetix> Evilpig: if we pooled money together, how much would it cost to bribe you to introduce a "bug" into tumblr's code that shut it down for a few days?
12:33 <@oddball> Since that would probably get him blackballed from a *lot* of places?  I'm guessing in the "I can retire" range.
12:34 <@Dagmar> Ten MEELION dollars
12:34 < aestetix> oddball: and open doors that hate tumblr :p
12:44 < RangerZ> aestetix: not enough doors would open, because honestly there aren't a lot of people who -hate- tumblr.... who are in any position to hire DC managers
12:44 < RangerZ> lol
12:45 <@oddball> There's that.
12:45 <@oddball> Also: even if you hated the company, would you really want to hire someone that intentionally sabotaged their last company to manage your shit?
12:46 < aestetix> Just make it look like a muslim coworker did it
12:48 < aestetix> or ware
13:16 < RangerZ> or aestetix
13:16 < aestetix> no
13:23 < ware_> hrm?
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13:34 < ware> ima VP now
13:34 < ware> suck it! :D
13:35 <@oddball> Clearly I chose wrong when I decided to be loyal to the company I was at instead of working where you were.
13:39 < ware> eh the last 2 places i was at were so-so
13:39 < ware> ICA just laid off 30 people and looks like they are going belly up
13:40 <@oddball> ah
13:41 < ware> last year went from 115 employees to 75 and said they were cutting the fat to positon for success the next year
13:42 < ware> then cut from 75 to 40 or so last week and moving teams around people getting new job descrtiptions with no contract renegotiations
13:42 <@oddball> "weee!"
13:42 < ware> going on call, different department/responsibilities all togeher
13:42 < ware> yeah just crazy stuff
13:42 < ware> but in both layoffs they never cut an upper manager
13:42 < ware> just the underlings
13:43 < ware> now most of the people i worked with are looking for new jobs
13:43 < ware> and i want management to come in one day and no one be there
13:43 < ware> just sitting on their thumbs thinking 'damn we dont know what the fuck we are doing'
13:44 <@oddball> heh
13:44 < ware> they are talking about 'retention packages' to provide 10k to people who will sign an agreement to stay for 1 year
13:44 < ware> like why the hell would you trust a company that has already proven to be mismanaged and not loyal?
13:44 < ware> get out
13:44 < ware> i wouldnt do it if it was 30k
13:44 < ware> or 100k
13:45 < ware> cant be trusted
13:45 < ware> anyway, fresh on the brain and easy to rant about
13:45 <@Dagmar> I want to strangle this guy
13:46 <@Dagmar> He keeps saying my widget is using "huge" amounts of battery.
13:46 <@Dagmar> That's just not fuckin' possible
13:47 <@Dagmar> i mean, if he *wants* huge, I can make the thing try to update ten times a second
13:47 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps a hundred times a second.
14:20 <@oddball> Not everyone has a car battery attached to their phone. :p
14:22 <@Dagmar> That's not it
14:22 <@Dagmar> These widgets are *not* doing a lot of work
14:22 <@Dagmar> They restack about 10 pretty small pixmaps when they update
14:22 <@Dagmar> No rescaling, no fancy positioning
14:23 <@Dagmar> It's utilization is right in there with the NFC service
14:24 <@Dagmar> Three of them together use about 80% more power than the touchwiz digital clock
14:24 <@Dagmar> ...and frankly I'm starting to question why that thing is even using that much power
14:24 <@Dagmar> The user in question has an idiotic "battery manager" application trying to shut the widget down when "not in use"
14:25 <@Dagmar> ...which causes the entire thing to be forcibly evicted from memory
14:25 <@Dagmar> ...and results in the classes being revivified the very nect update.
14:25 <@oddball> ah... one of those folks that obsess over that shit.
14:25 <@Dagmar> THAT will fucking use some power
14:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah the startup cost of the class is much more than what little it does every update
14:25 <@oddball> I bet he yells at folks that set their phones to vibrate because it uses too much power.
14:25 <@Dagmar> I have no idea
14:26 <@Dagmar> I just know I've been using GSam to try and figure out how much CPU time is being used and the answer is certainly "Not fuckin' much"
14:26 <@Evilpig> that's some bullshit right there
14:26 <@Dagmar> 20s of CPU time over the course of _days_
14:26 <@Evilpig> I've had my phone on vibrate for the last three days and it uses the same juice
14:26 <@Dagmar> Stock digital clock has used 13s.
14:27 <@oddball> Evilpig: Yeah, but that's because no one calls you. :p
14:27 <@Evilpig> my phone goes off a fuckton during the day
14:27 <@Evilpig> thank you very much.  :P
14:27 <@Evilpig> corporate types LOVE email and adding you to lists of shit that you don't give a fuck about
14:27 <@Evilpig> speaking of.  I have a lunch to get to
14:28 <@Dagmar> What I should do is put in a check for that bullshit
14:29 <@Dagmar> Like, despite what the garbage collector is supposed to be doing, all my instance values stick around between updates
14:29 <@Dagmar> It's just not enough memory or important enough to be reaped
14:29 <@Dagmar> ...but I'll bet it gets reaped all the time when there's a jackass battery "helper" forcing it out
14:30 <@Dagmar> I could detect that, and then start spamming the user with Toast messages saying "STOP THAT."
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16:16 < Synx|hm> fucking ubuntu new-release-check is killing an esx VM thats sitting on a spining data store
16:17 < RangerZ> sucks to be Synx|hm
16:17 < RangerZ> lol
16:17 < Synx|hm> sucks to be using a spinning data store
16:18 < Synx|hm> everything else is on SSDs
16:18 < Synx|hm> im considering migrating it real time to ssd
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19:00 < aestetix> Synx|hm: depends on how big the data store is
19:00 < aestetix> but in general yes
19:57 <@Evilpig> http://www.twitch.tv/theattack
19:57 < PigBot`> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv)
20:00 < aestetix> Evilpig: so if I were able to give you a local root exploit and made it look like it came from ware you could take down tumblr for a day or two right?
20:00 < aestetix> or maybe block IP addresses of idiot SJWs :p
20:01 <@Evilpig> I like my job, and no
20:01 < aestetix> oh come on
20:02 <@Evilpig> you couldn't get to anything for an exploit to tack teh site down anyhow
20:02 <@Evilpig> it's very well insultated.  you certainly can't DoS it either, that 50Gb DDoS last week proved it didn't even slow the site down
20:03 < aestetix> maybe you could set things up so that certain IP addresses see goatse instead of tumblr
20:05 < aestetix> Or you could throttle traffic to 28.8 speeds and claim that the ISP is fucking you over
20:05 < aestetix> or it's a political act for net neutrality
20:05 < aestetix> SJWs get hurt, a good cause gets publicity, and everyone wins
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20:19 < _NSAKEY> I'd be all for Evilpig defacing select tumblrs and framing you for it, aestetix.
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20:31 < aestetix> lol
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22:01 < _NSAKEY> The world needs GNAA Tumblr Worm 2: Electic Bugaloo by aestetix.
22:05 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: On a serious note, PM inbound.
22:47 < aestetix> sigh
22:47 < aestetix> is there a way to search for webex recordings?
22:47 < aestetix> on the website
22:49 < aestetix> maybe what I want isn't up yet :/
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