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00:47 < Synx|hm> so so tired
00:47 <@oddball> There's this thing... it's called a bed.
00:47 < Synx|hm> not when 4 hours of work begins now
01:05 < Synx|hm> convince me not to buy a bunch of ESP8266 modules to log temp in each of the rooms in my house
01:47 < Synx|hm> thanks... too late
01:47 < Synx|hm> :(
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:57 <@Evilpig> well fuck a duck.  I left my coke out in the truck
08:05 < dfused> fizzle fail!
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08:44 < aestetix> Evilpig: you should have brought a little bit in your wallet
08:48 < Synx|hm> holy shit im tired
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09:35 < Synx|hm> anybody know of a weather service with API that reports lux?
09:47 <@Evilpig> what are you looking for specifically?  how bright it is outside?
09:54 <@brimstone> isn't that a function of cloud cover?
09:54 <@brimstone> PARTLY LUX
09:54 <@brimstone> LUXY
10:02 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: yes
10:23 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna refer you to brimstone's suggestion of cloud cover.  I don't think anyone reports lux
10:24 <@brimstone> i guess smog level could affect lux as well
10:24 < Synx|hm> oh lol somehow i complete missed what he was saying
10:24 < Synx|hm> thanks brim
10:24 <@brimstone> i imagine this is for an elaborate sunglass selection system
10:24 <@brimstone> to have exactly the right pair available at the door when you want to leave
10:24 < Synx|hm> exactly
10:25 <@Evilpig> but what if some jackhole like Shadow404 is the one reporting and he keeps his weather shit up next to the house where it's in the shade?
10:25 <@Evilpig> you'd never leave the house with proper sunglasses.  
10:25 < Synx|hm> considering using illumination to determine when to have exterior lights on and how bright to set them
10:26 <@Evilpig> so... like using an actual sensor at your house instead would be just silly?
10:26 < Synx|hm> yup
10:26 < Synx|hm> haha considered that too, not sure i care enough to actually build something though that would survive elements
10:26 <@Evilpig> you'd want to base your light levels on someplace other than your house.  I see where you're going with this
10:26 < Synx|hm> more like, if there is a weather service that reports it cool, if not ehh fuck it
10:26 <@brimstone> aren't there turn key systems for this already?
10:27 < Synx|hm> i have not researched a ton obviously but turn key weather stations are fucking expensive
10:27 <@Evilpig> brimstone: leave your logic outside with the other rabble!
10:27 < Synx|hm> though i just ordered 6 ESP8266's so i could perhaps DIY one
10:27 <@brimstone> could you just use sunset/sunrise times?
10:28 < Synx|hm> yes thats my fallback
10:28 < Synx|hm> just was thinking it'd be cool to take it a step beyond and integrate illumination for stormy days or dark cloud cover days
10:29 <@brimstone> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Outdoor-Dark-Brown-Solar-LED-Walk-Light-6-Pack-RPS14P-N1-DB-W6/202104138
10:29 < PigBot> Title: Hampton Bay Outdoor Dark Brown Solar LED Walk Light (6-Pack)-RPS14P-N1-DB-W6 - The Home Depot (at www.homedepot.com)
10:30 < Synx|hm> this is for zigbee ge link lights controlled from a linux vm running openhab
10:30 <@Evilpig> a light level sensor shoudl be uber cheap and you wouldn't have to make it survive the elements, much 
10:30 <@Evilpig> It could live on the edge of window
10:31 < Synx|hm> true ill just look into that and use one of the esp boards i just purchased
10:33 <@Evilpig> there is one last option that you haven't considered
10:33 <@Evilpig> you're gonna need a ballgag, a large crate, and some dickie bait.
10:34 <@Evilpig> he can also do more than just turn on lights.  if you train him he can guard your house while you're away as well
10:34 < Synx|hm> haha great idea
10:35 < Synx|hm> https://www.adafruit.com/products/439
10:40 <@Evilpig> $6 is awful expensive.  pretty sure the dickie route will be more cost effective
10:44 <@brimstone> have you see the street price for dickie bait recently?
10:44 <@brimstone> like, in the last week?
10:45 <@Evilpig> easter was sunday so yeah it was inflated, but if you bought it on monday it was half price
10:45 <@brimstone> oh i didn't look monday
10:45 <@brimstone> eh, the price is still higher than when i filled up in january
10:49 <@opticron> I got gas for 2.09 yesterday at costco (hsv), other places have moved up though
10:50 <@opticron> wait, dickiebait isn't gas
10:51 <@brimstone> it's worse
11:02 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/rtqyggm4dyui27r/AACY0RD1E6-iqocRT5KRAxZha
11:02  * Evilpig nods
11:05 <@Dickie> Peeps are inexpensive right now
11:05 <@Dickie> I'm a sucker for peeps
11:07 < CRasH180> ugh, loathe peeps
11:07 < CRasH180> My Mom keeps giving my Son peeps for gifts even though we rarely give him sugar
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11:40 <@Evilpig> quality replacement dell parts right here
11:40 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/an0lhag7062a45h/DSC06939.JPG?dl=0
11:48 <@opticron> WAT
11:50 < CRasH180> was someone hungry?
11:54 <@Evilpig> someone was something
11:59 <@Dickie> I know that's right!
12:08  * aestetix hugs Bahhumbug 
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13:30 < dfused>  hurray \o/ got my bike back home
13:54 <@Mirage> I'm sure someone already posted this, but I was just catching up during lunch and feel the need.  http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-04-03
13:54 < PigBot> Title: Dick Comments On Alices Blog - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-04-03 | Dilbert by Scott Adams (at dilbert.com)
14:13 <@Mirage> wtf.. "12:34 [freenode] -SaslServ(SaslServ@services.)- <sasl> failed to login to Mirage_.  There have been 1443 failed login attempts since your last successful login.
14:15 < dfused> wasnt me.
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14:19 < aestetix> uh
14:19 < aestetix> someone just randomly twittered furry porn at me
14:22 <@Mirage> I would guess it's someone who knows you
14:23 < dfused> boom.
14:33 <@Evilpig> lol
14:34 <@Catonic> LOL
14:35 <@Catonic> I am shocked, I telyawhut
14:35 < dfused> hrm....white rum makes for a decent replacement for shochu. ... great for an american chuhi
14:43 < aestetix> Ok, philosophy question.
14:43 < aestetix> If you record empirical data, such as "I saw a cat" does that count as evidence?
14:44 <@Dagmar> I love powdered caffiene
14:45 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Have you been speaking English long?
14:45 < aestetix> lol
14:46 < aestetix> Basically, Aristotle gets a lot of shit because he made all these theories with no evidence.
14:46 < aestetix> However, if he used his senses to craft the reason he wrote, and the reason-conclusions are just misguided....
14:47 <@Dagmar> PHILOSOPHY IS NOT SCIENCE
14:47 <@Dagmar> SCIENCE IS NOT PHILOSOPHY
14:47 < aestetix> I didn't say anything about science.
14:48 < dfused> but couldnt philosophy be construed as the precursor to science?
14:48 < aestetix> That's precisely what philosophy is.
14:48 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence
14:48 < PigBot> Title: Empirical evidence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
14:49 < dfused> wikipedia is not fact. =P
14:49 < aestetix> My argument though is that evidence can be a precursor to rationalism.
14:50 < aestetix> You can draw conclusions based on the fact that you saw a cat.
14:51 < dfused> only if you can agree to the terms that perception is in fact reality... which these days... is not necessarily true
14:51 <@Dagmar> It *could* be a skin-walker just finishing up with a light snack.
14:51 <@Dagmar> You never can tell about these things.
14:51 <@rhia> perception is not in fact reality
14:51 < dfused> damn evil cats
14:53 <@Dagmar> Damn.   Update your macs, kids
14:53 < dfused> misdirection.
14:54 <@Dagmar> No, apparently there's a backdoor to root built right into OSx
14:54 <@Dagmar> ...and if you don't have a mac, here's some fapping materials for lunch http://www.eecs.umich.edu/eecs/about/articles/2015/Worlds-Smallest-Computer-Michigan-Micro-Mote.html
14:54 < PigBot> Title: Michigan Micro Mote - World's Smallest Computer (at www.eecs.umich.edu)
14:55 < dfused> aaaaaand yes... perception is just as much reality as our memory is fact.... so why the hell do we allow testimony?
14:55 <@Dagmar> That shit's practically the size of *glitter*
14:57 <@rhia> noooo, perception is a view which can change, reality doesn't change just because you want it to
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14:57 < aestetix> Dagmar: this? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204659
14:57 < PigBot> Title: About the security content of OS X Yosemite v10.10.3 and Security Update 2015-004 - Apple Support (at support.apple.com)
14:59 <@Dagmar> Actually I read it from https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/hidden-backdoor-api-to-root-privileges-in-apple-os-x/ but it appears to be talking about the same thing
14:59 < PigBot> Title: Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X | (at truesecdev.wordpress.com)
15:00 < aestetix> "Apple has now released OS X 10.10.3 where the issue is resolved. OS X 10.9.x and older remain vulnerable, since Apple decided not to patch these versions. We recommend that all users upgrade to 10.10.3."
15:00 < aestetix> I love how Apple just decided not to patch the versions.
15:01 < dfused> seems legit
15:01 <@Dagmar> Well, of course.
15:01 <@opticron> ehhh, google did it recently too with chrome/browser
15:01 <@Dagmar> They fucked up hugely by doing it that binary that way in the first place
15:02 < aestetix> So they force you to upgrade to a system that has more bloat.... which in turn forces you to buy new hardware
15:03 <@rhia> aestetix, are you trying to say that Apple has a pushy marketing plan? Noooooo
15:03 <@Dagmar> opticron: Except chrome's normal stance is "upgrades will happen, and there's no stopping them"
15:03 <@Dagmar> Like, when was the last time Chrome even *bothered* to say "Chrome 38 is now available!  You shoudl restart your browser!"
15:04 <@Dagmar> They just swap out the components as you go
15:04 <@Dagmar> If you read the truesecdev write-up, you see the main problem is that Apple was doing something they shoudln't ahev been doing in the first place
15:05 <@Dagmar> ...which means it's probably a fuckup that was enshrined in some middle manager's personal list of accomplishments
15:08 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/savagejen/status/586243789288824833
15:08 < PigBot> Title: Jen Savage on Twitter: "Heres what Apples latest security update did to my Mac. Bravo, good job. I see you tested that well. http://t.co/6E0DteOo43" (at twitter.com)
15:23 < Synx|hm> holy fuck
15:23 < Synx|hm> http://hackaday.com/2015/04/07/build-a-phased-array-radar-in-your-garage-that-sees-through-walls/
15:23 < PigBot> Title: Build a Phased-Array Radar in Your Garage that Sees Through Walls | Hackaday (at hackaday.com)
15:24 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:24 <@Dagmar> Nifty stuff, that
15:24 < Synx|hm> im not sure how i feel about that
15:24 <@Dagmar> Look at it this way
15:24 < Synx|hm> that guy fucks up on the power and he could do some serious damage to people around him
15:24 <@Dagmar> ...at least now you're aware _it's possible_
15:24 < Synx|hm> as in their pink fleshy parts
15:25 <@Dagmar> Well, assuming lightning doesn't strike it, it's fine
15:25 < Synx|hm> i mean output power
15:26 < aestetix> http://www.salon.com/2015/04/08/robert_reich_the_rich_have_bought_americas_silence_partner/
15:26 < PigBot> Title: Robert Reich: The rich have bought Americas silence - Salon.com (at www.salon.com)
15:27 <@Dagmar> They're making the things with some components that would explode before you could get enough power through them to do serious damage
15:27 < Synx|hm> ahh, and they seem highly smart on it, good news is thats way outside the scope of your tinker
15:28 <@Dagmar> Yes
15:28 <@Dagmar> If they were able to do this by say, repurposing magnetrons from microwave ovens purchased at a junk shop, _then_ we'd have a serious risk factor
15:28 <@Dagmar> THOSE could facilitate an Epic Fuck Up.
15:29 < Synx|hm> indeed
15:29 < Synx|hm> i cant turn on the radar in the jet unless we are significantly far awar from people and things with fuses or fuel
15:30 < Synx|hm> what freaks me out though is i sit right behind it (old school rotator) and it doesn't blank when it spins, only thing between me and it is radar absorbing foam or so im told
15:31 <@Dagmar> Well, get you some tinfoil underpants
15:37 < Synx|hm> ha this is smart https://hackaday.io/project/1569-nsa-away
15:37 < PigBot> Title: NSA Away Hackaday.io (at hackaday.io)
15:39 <@Catonic> lol
15:39 <@Catonic> oh, yeah, those are easy
15:39 < Synx|hm> damn it the weather is so good this weekend
15:39 <@Catonic> look for the microwaves that say "inverter" on them. hint: they are pulsed RADAR
15:39 < aestetix> vagina
15:40 <@Catonic> all you have to do is adjust the PRF and the pulse length and you've got a RADAR
15:40 < Synx|hm> but silicon valley starts and so does game of throns
15:40 < Synx|hm> thrones
15:40 <@Catonic> there a very old article in 73 Magazine, IIRC, where they talk about using a CW or FM radar
15:40 <@Catonic> *there is
15:42 <@Catonic> holy shit, that's not the two-antennas version. That's serious. Those are _broadband_ antennas, like 1GHz to 24 GHz
15:43 < Synx|hm> oh shit preds seeded back to 2 so may be hawks-preds round 1
15:43 < Synx|hm> ZOMG
15:43 <@Catonic> Ahahahahahhaha
15:43 < Synx|hm> FUCK
15:43 <@Catonic> been fucking with this ATA... look down... "Huh, new LED lit." -- says VOIP
15:43 < Synx|hm> i dont have tickets
15:43 <@Catonic> pick up handset... dialtone
15:43 < Synx|hm> Catonic: what ATA? i have an old linksys pap2 that i hacked off vonage that i use with asterisk
15:44 < Synx|hm> modified the settings to make it ring a rotary phone through house wiring was so happy with myself
16:02 <@Evilpig> fuuuuuuuu
16:02 <@Evilpig> http://cpanayides.tumblr.com/post/115942960648/load-1k
16:02 < PigBot> Title: Load >1k Won't the 'splodey hurt? (at cpanayides.tumblr.com)
16:22 < Synx|hm> im not going to lie i have no f'ing clue what tumblr is
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16:34 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: let me introduce you to aestetix's tumblr.  http://aestetix.tumblr.com    if you worked from someplace that wasn't home you'd be promptly fired.
16:35 < PigBot> Title: Aestetix (at aestetix.tumblr.com)
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16:40 <@Dagmar> Funnery.
16:40 <@Dagmar> It looks like that expired Google cert is having an affext
16:40 <@Dagmar> ugh.  Need more caffiene
16:40 <@Dagmar> I nearly just lit my 3DS stylus
16:47 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: InnoMedia MTA6328-2Re
16:48 <@Catonic> I saw a mention on reddit, found one on eBay for $9.99 free shipping.
16:48 < Synx|hm> cool
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19:14 <@Dagmar> 26 objects selected.
19:15 <@Dagmar> Blue slider accidentally clicked to near 100%.
19:15 <@Dagmar> fuuuu-uuuuu-
19:15 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll go take a shower
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22:40 <@sasquatc4> nice
22:40 <@sasquatc4> http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/04/09/2213212/ten-us-senators-seek-investigation-into-the-replacement-of-us-tech-workers
22:40 < PigBot> Title: Ten US Senators Seek Investigation Into the Replacement of US Tech Workers - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
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