--- Log opened Tue Mar 17 00:00:56 2015
00:17 <@Dagmar> Data that is ten years old is really, really useful
00:17 <@Dagmar> It's a terrible shame no more recent data was available
00:49 <@oddball> I loved Corydon's defense of the late payment at the last meeting "oh, we've always paid late."
00:53 <@Bahhumbug> That's what you want to hear from your organization's treasurer.
00:55 <@oddball> yep
00:55  * Bahhumbug wonders if he did that in his personal life as well.
00:55 <@Bahhumbug> Might explain a few things.
01:03 <@Dagmar> Clearly, technology is hard for these fucking hillbillies
01:03 <@Dagmar> http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/news/Police-Investigate-Suspicious-Device-Found-on-Vehicle-296514371.html
01:03 < PigBot`> Title: Police Investigate Suspicious Device Found On Vehicle - NewsChannel5.com (at www.jrn.com)
01:05 <@Dagmar> They want so _badly_ for it to be some kind of explosive
01:05 <@Dagmar> Idiots.
01:05 <@Dagmar> ...and it doesn't look very homemade to me
01:05 <@Dagmar> Not many home engineers bother to put a pair of fucking bar codes on their shit
01:06 <@Dagmar> I'm damn astonished they used a goddamn lantern battery tho
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01:48 < RangerZ> oddball: it wasn't anything super big, its just my cousin's work is fucked, if you call off any day of the week, you don't get tips for that week (as a waitress, but they pay min. wage otherwise) and they can do this because they make all customers/waitresses put tips into a giant tip jar that is distributed at the end of each week to all employees who didn't call off at ALL
01:50 < RangerZ> I've hated that system since I first found out about it like 13 years ago when I dated a girl who worked there
01:51 <@Dagmar> That's not legal in most states
01:55 < RangerZ> it is in ohio b/c they get min. wage otherwise
01:55 < RangerZ> ohio is a weird state legally, it has almost no protections for renters or employees, etc
01:56 < RangerZ> if you are in ohio and your bill states 'pay by due date or face possible eviction' and then the person wants to evict you and harm your credit rating... they can just _not accept_ payment
01:56 < RangerZ> and you're legally fucked
01:56 < RangerZ> rent bill*
01:56 <@Bahhumbug> Sounds like a real shithole.
01:57 < RangerZ> overall no, it just has some shitty stances, like how TN is going to force local cities to make their parks allow concealed carry of guns regardless of what 'local governments' want
01:58 < RangerZ> which apparently is going to be passed this session to allow the NRA people to invade the parks
01:58 < RangerZ> :/
01:58 < RangerZ> god I hope no squirrels look at them funny, lol
01:59 <@_NSAKEY> Hey guys, there's going to be a new OpenSSL version on the 19th.
01:59 <@_NSAKEY> http://marc.info/?l=openssl-announce&m=142653572011212&w=2
01:59 < PigBot`> Title: '[openssl-announce] Forthcoming OpenSSL releases' - MARC (at marc.info)
01:59 <@_NSAKEY> Definitely worth pointing out.
01:59 < RangerZ> ohh goodie... new vulns to be found
01:59 < RangerZ> lol
01:59 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, one of them is "high."
01:59 <@Bahhumbug> Just like the idiots coding it.
01:59 <@_NSAKEY> Hahahaha.
01:59 <@Bahhumbug> openssl is a fucking disaster.
02:00 <@_NSAKEY> Man, I hated heartbleed. Had to patch all but a couple of boxes I was running at the time.
02:00 <@_NSAKEY> A couple of them were running debian squeeze and so they weren't vuln. That was funny.
02:00 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQCo4KDlhe8 :/
02:00 < PigBot`> Title: Hackers Are Blackmailing PC Gamers With Ransomware - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:00 < RangerZ> b/c we need more shit like this for PR
02:00 <@Bahhumbug> I had to patch hundreds.  I was not impressed.
02:01 <@_NSAKEY> Plus rebooting and regenerating keys.
02:01 <@Bahhumbug> But then again, we had fasttrack'd updates so we had updates out before anyone else, including out upstream )
02:02 <@Bahhumbug> :)
02:02 <@_NSAKEY> Oh, being privileged must have been nice.
02:02 <@Bahhumbug> Christ... sed... why do you hate me so?
02:02 <@Bahhumbug> heartbleed wasn't embargoed.
02:02 < RangerZ> because you're a rat bastard.... just saying
02:02 < RangerZ> lol
02:03 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: I was under the impression that some big tech companies got access to patches before the announcement, like Google.
02:03 <@Bahhumbug> It's actually kind of amusing.  Red Hat is our upstream but we often gets updates out to our mirror network before RHT has content on their CDN.
02:03 <@Bahhumbug> I don't think it was embargoed.
02:03 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: but let me tell you... thats how I was with my compiler design course... writing finite state machines to parse regular expressions by hand... and crying why do they hate me so, lol
02:04 <@Bahhumbug> Google discovered heartbleed, so it stands to reason they would ensure they were patched before release.
02:04 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: they had developers working on the fix I believe , if that was the case, but the biggest embargoed fix lately was Xen
02:05 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, last... Wed?  Thu?
02:05 < RangerZ> again?
02:05 <@Bahhumbug> And about 6 weeks prior to that.
02:05 < RangerZ> jesus I just meant the previous time
02:05 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, there were a couple XSAs last week.
02:05 < RangerZ> I didn't even know it happened again
02:05 <@Bahhumbug> Not as critical as 6-7 weeks ago.
02:05 <@Bahhumbug> But still forced hypervisor kicks.
02:06 <@Bahhumbug> The whole "embargoed" approach is, to me, a failure.
02:06 <@Bahhumbug> The vendor-sec data leaks should have proved that to the world :/
02:06 < RangerZ> so a group at the lab is using an ancient version of XEN b/c they use a combo of two different approaches for collecting data from the system for monitoring
02:06 < RangerZ> and the main guy is about to get his PhD and graduate
02:07 < RangerZ> so he doesn't give a rats ass... just make it work, lol
02:07 < RangerZ> its all internal testing stuff, no it doesn't really matter
02:07 < RangerZ> but it doesn't stay up longer than 6hours....
02:07 < RangerZ> LOL
02:08 <@_NSAKEY> That's terrible.
02:08 < RangerZ> I can't wait for it to just be wiped and updated and a new measurement framework started, lol
02:09 < RangerZ> b/c we grab measurements at a faster rate and more accurately than xen gives by default, for better load balancing, etc. (which is his research) algorithms
02:10 <@Bahhumbug> As much as I dislike openvz these days... their kernels provide less latency, on average, than any pvm/hvm guest.
02:10 <@Bahhumbug> That being said I still wish it would diatf.
02:12 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: yeah, but his algorithms give an almost 20% improvement on resource scheduling over other state-of-the-art techniques
02:12 < RangerZ> and is applicable to containers, and any VM system
02:13 < RangerZ> so shitty situation he's dealing with, but good research
02:20 <@_NSAKEY> Do either of you guys have any use for running your own XMPP server?
02:26 < RangerZ> not today, but I think it'll become more important at some point, for friend chat, etc
02:28 < RangerZ> "Discussion of possible change of the monthly membership meeting location, as the venue may be being closed in the near future."
02:28 < RangerZ> well damn
02:28 < RangerZ> that kinda sucks
02:28 < RangerZ> JJs isn't a bad place
02:29 < RangerZ> but it can't survive with what i'm sure rents are going up to with high rises going in across the street, etc
02:30 <@_NSAKEY> Across the street?
02:30 <@_NSAKEY> No...
02:30 <@_NSAKEY> They're tearing Noshville down.
02:30 <@_NSAKEY> Unless I'm misremembering the layout, there's no street between the two.
02:31 < RangerZ> ohh i didn't know that
02:31 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah.
02:32 <@_NSAKEY> oddball and Dagmar talked about it in-channel a few days ago.
02:32 < RangerZ> I just meant that area is going to be going UP UP UP in rental prices
02:32 <@_NSAKEY> I brought it to the board's attention.
02:32 < RangerZ> I've been ignoring channel and thinking that it is MOSTLY my desktop
02:32 < RangerZ> makes my bringing it up earlier this month more relevant , lol
02:32 <@_NSAKEY> Plus mentioned that you had brought up moving the meeting location at the last meeting.
02:33 <@_NSAKEY> https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/7/tower_planned_for_midtown_would_include_hotel_residences
02:33 < PigBot`> Title: Tower planned for Midtown would include hotel, residences | Nashville Post (at www.nashvillepost.com)
02:34 <@_NSAKEY> This is the cited Nashville Business Journal article: http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/real-estate/2015/03/planned-midtown-high-rise-could-grow-larger-with.html?page=all
02:34 < PigBot`> Title: Planned Midtown high-rise could grow larger with sale of coffee shop site - Nashville Business Journal (at www.bizjournals.com)
02:34 < RangerZ> ugh
02:34 < RangerZ> lol'
02:35 < RangerZ> so I guess I'll send off some emails tomorrow....
02:35 < RangerZ> been waiting for the new org to be founded first... but that'll take up to a month for approval, etc
02:35 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon recommended against Vandy because of the situation with security.
02:35 < RangerZ> thats nice
02:35 < RangerZ> I'm still going to ask and see what the situation is
02:36 <@_NSAKEY> The meetings were held on-campus before, and since they didn't have exterior access, someone had to stand by the door to let any latecomers in.
02:36 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, it can't hurt to ask.
02:36 < RangerZ> NOT asking other options is how we ended up with maxwell house, lol
02:36 <@_NSAKEY> Not like you're committing to anything by asking.
02:36 < RangerZ> that and 10 year old data apparently
02:36 < RangerZ> lol
02:36 < RangerZ> *read the backlog some*, lol
02:37 <@_NSAKEY> Oh, that was something else in the "report" that I forgot to mention.
02:37 < RangerZ> did he write it in crayon?
02:37 <@_NSAKEY> He had some list of requirements for space, etc. before seeking out hotels. Supposedly the maxwell house was the only option.
02:37 < RangerZ> b/c thats how its sounding
02:37 <@_NSAKEY> No, but he might as well have.
02:38 <@_NSAKEY> Crayon is better than writing it in feces, though.
02:38 < RangerZ> depends on the portrait of Jesus you are making, sometimes the browns don't come out quite right otherwise
02:38 < RangerZ> I'm sorry... lol, but sadly those portraits didn't -look- bad
02:38 < RangerZ> until you found out what it was drawn in, lol
02:39 < RangerZ> though... that spanish lady's fresco she drew with paint by numbers or w/e.... thats classic, lol
02:39 < RangerZ> -drew over-*
02:40 < RangerZ> also.... i hate march
02:40 <@_NSAKEY> I do remember it saying that he and Amber did the bulk of the research, and that Amber had a relative at the Maxwell House, apparently someone who handles sales for convention space.
02:40 < RangerZ> google thinks I at ALL care about NCAA sports
02:40 <@_NSAKEY> It's really a bunch of stuff you guys already knew he would say.
02:40 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: follow along with with me....  .....of course.....
02:40 < RangerZ> lol
02:41 <@_NSAKEY> I think the fact that the board pretty much wanted to flush it down the toilet and start over should be taken into consideration if it ever leaks out.
02:41 < RangerZ> I think it should be made public
02:41 < RangerZ> if he is willing to spout that nonsense, then he should have to live with it
02:42 <@_NSAKEY> I doubt it will unless someone it was sent to gets mad at Dru and leaks it.
02:42 <@_NSAKEY> You could always ask him for it and see what he says.
02:43 < RangerZ> ehh, either way
02:43 < RangerZ> night -i hope-
02:44 <@_NSAKEY> RangerZ: Bookmark or clone this: https://github.com/NSAKEY/paranoid-prosody
02:44 < PigBot`> Title: NSAKEY/paranoid-prosody · GitHub (at github.com)
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03:35 <@_NSAKEY> Oh, a new PhreakNIC template site: https://phreaknic.info
03:35 < PigBot`> Title: PHREAKNIC19 (at phreaknic.info)
03:35 <@_NSAKEY> Already checked for install.php and it doesn't exist.
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05:35 < aestetix> oh wow
05:35 < aestetix> that's awesome
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07:22 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2zb84a/failed_hijack_attempt_of_united_flight_out_of/
07:22 < PigBot`> Title: Failed hijack attempt of United flight out of Dulles : pics (at www.reddit.com)
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07:42 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:34 <@CRasH180> howdy
08:34 <@CRasH180> or, whatever
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08:38 < dfused> yar
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09:29 < Synx|hm_> somebody help me scout a location to move
09:29 < Synx|hm_> looking to purchase a house, not in the ghetto, really really want a yard with trees
09:29 < dfused> i hear belize is nice
09:30 < Synx|hm_> in nashville
09:30 <@CRasH180> Over near me is a good area. Very old community.
09:30 < dfused> you're no fun
09:30 < Synx|hm_> ha
09:30 < Synx|hm_> CRasH180: where you at?
09:30 < Synx|hm_> im in antioch/cane ridge right now
09:30 <@CRasH180> South Nashville, not in Antioch
09:30 < Synx|hm_> haha
09:31 <@CRasH180> I live in the Tusculum area on Nolensville Pk/Rd
09:31 < Synx|hm_> i dont get it, the lake is there why is that part of antioch such a shit hole?
09:31 <@CRasH180> Not just the lake
09:31 < Synx|hm_> CRasH180: north or south of old hickory?
09:31 <@CRasH180> North by about a mile
09:32 < Synx|hm_> CRasH180: i like that area problem is soon as you cross the county line BOOM HOLY FUCK you had better make millions
09:32 <@CRasH180> I live one mile between Old Hickory Blvd and Nolensville Pk
09:32 <@CRasH180> No, no
09:32 <@CRasH180> My property takes were less than $900 last year
09:32 < Synx|hm_> CRasH180: im off cane ridge, bell 24 exit
09:33 <@CRasH180> Understood. I know that area
09:33 < Synx|hm_> love the rolling hills, would kill to have a farm house out here, cant stand the fucking idiot drivers on cane ridge
09:33 <@CRasH180> Yeah
09:33 < Synx|hm_> every morning i have to blair my horn 3 or 4 times for stupid fucks to get out of the middle of the road coming the other direction
09:34 < Synx|hm_> i blasted a guy in a truck this morning with 120db horns and he damn near swerved off the road as he passed me
09:34 <@CRasH180> lol, that is not just there. It is everywhere people are driving stupidly
09:34 < Synx|hm_> true ha
09:34 <@CRasH180> On the last trip to Illinois, I could tell you some stories of people doing some very, very stupid things
09:38 < Synx|hm_> hows mt juliet
09:39 < Synx|hm_> if the fucking zillow map would update based upon where you look that would be great
09:39 < Synx|hm_> ugh
09:40 <@CRasH180> Look up Fairlane Dr
09:40 <@CRasH180> And the houses in the surrounding portions of the community
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09:42 <@CRasH180> Oh, they call the area, "Fairlane Park"
09:45 < Synx|hm_> not much for sale in that area, must be doing well
09:45 < Synx|hm_> i really need to take a look at forclosures
09:46 <@CRasH180> Across the street from my house there was a house auction last week that sold for $70,000
09:46 <@CRasH180> It would probably take another 30K to restore it to what it should be
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09:46 < Synx|hm_> was going to ask somebody about that, whats the diff between an auction and foreclosure?
09:46 < Synx|hm_> is that a shortsale?
09:46 <@CRasH180> I am not sure
09:47 < Synx|hm_> wife keeps wanting to look at new homes, and i dont want a new home, never mind the added cost, i want someone with a bit more land and dont mind having to reno a bit
09:48 <@CRasH180> They had Bob Parks auctioneers out in front of the house on that icy, wintery day, can I get 69K?, can I get 69K? going once, going twice,
09:48 <@CRasH180> Always wanted to attend one of those, but never thought it would come right to my doorstep, well, the neighbors door step
09:49 < Synx|hm_> lol
09:49 < Synx|hm_> wonder if you can get bank loans for that sort of thing
09:49 < Synx|hm_> we should totally try it, save so much money
09:50 < Synx|hm_> and shit live in it a while rennovate it a bit and rent it boom
09:50 <@CRasH180> Probably, as long as you have the collateral to back up the house
09:52 < Synx|hm_> i really want enough land to raise chickens and maybe an alpaca
09:52 < Synx|hm_> wife is a city girl though and will have none of it
09:53 < dfused> natural eggs make store eggs taste like shit
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09:53 <@CRasH180> http://www.zillow.com/homes/Fairlane-Park-Nashville-TN-37211_rb/
09:53 < PigBot`> Title: Real Estate - 1 Homes For Sale | Zillow (at www.zillow.com)
09:56 < Synx|hm_> know anything about the schools?
10:06 < Synx|hm_> i made a badass wideband fracteral antenna
10:06 < Synx|hm_> it doesn't work worth a shit, have better luck sticking my finger into the antenna connector on my scanner
10:06 < Synx|hm_> lol
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10:14 <@CRasH180> I do not know a lot about the schools
10:14 <@CRasH180> The elementary and middle schools are within walking distance
10:14 <@Evilpig> you werne't required to notify them upon your moving in?
10:14 < dfused> lmao
10:14 <@CRasH180> ROFL
10:15 < Synx|hm_> ha
10:15 <@CRasH180> Seriously, it is an old community and the homes have about 1/8 to 1/6 of an acre of land. Some have more, some less.
10:17 < Synx|hm_> ya ill check it out for sure
10:17 < Synx|hm_> thanks for the heads up!!
10:17 < Synx|hm_> maybe we can be neighboors
10:17 < Synx|hm_> i only sunbathe in the nude during a few of the summer months
10:17 < Synx|hm_> usually in the front yard though so you dont have to worry during cookouts
10:17 <@Dagmar> yay me I have broken EditText
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10:18 < Synx|hm_> CRasH180: whats ISPs round there? any fiber?
10:19 <@CRasH180> Comcast and AT&T U-verse
10:19 < Synx|hm_> FML
10:19 <@CRasH180> Netzero :P
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10:21 <@Evilpig> is netzero still around?
10:21 <@CRasH180> I have U-verse and it works good. Max speed I can get it 18mbps, but it works well for me.
10:21 < Synx|hm_> i work from home
10:21 <@CRasH180> So do I
10:21 < Synx|hm_> in IT/Telecom
10:21 < Synx|hm_> oh cool what do you do?
10:21 <@CRasH180> ServiceNow System Administrator/Developer
10:21 <@Evilpig> masturbate, alot
10:22 <@CRasH180> Yep, with the wife and kid in the other room too. I am one sick bastard
10:49 <@benthemeek> Bahhumbug: On the dru report topic and transparency. It isn't that we aren't being transparent, anyone who came to the meeting could of read it; It is that we are not putting our approval on a rant that doesn't really deal with the root causes of what went wrong
10:50 <@benthemeek> There are no secrets that anyone is trying to cover up
10:51 <@Evilpig> you're covering up the fact that dru is a raving loon
10:51 <@Evilpig> coworker just told me this.  I had to lol.  'so i ate some "pizza" on friday at HQ, didnt bother to read any descriptions, got a slice that had a grey topping, didnt know what it was but figured it was either sausage or mushroom... bit into it and after a wtf moment, asked what the heck i was eating, found out it was pear topping'
10:51 <@Dolemite> No, I think it's starting to become clear to even the most blind people
10:52 <@Evilpig> we get emails daily about what's for lunch in NY and we frequently bust on the weird choices they have,  he got it first hand
10:52 <@benthemeek> On the lateness of the payment, Elonka has been added to the account so that we can insure that it doesn't fall on one person to remember to pay. We are all very embrassed that things have been paid late for a few years
10:52 <@Dolemite> s/insure/ensure
10:52 <@benthemeek> yes
10:53 <@Evilpig> when I was putting shit out for that I had all the bills sent to a group address so shit didn't get paid late
10:53 <@benthemeek> Ty, I know I suck at teh spelling and teh grammer
10:53 <@Evilpig> I was on tilghman's ass quickly about any bill that came in
10:53 < dfused> phrasing
10:53 <@benthemeek> Well we are going with that practice again
10:54 <@benthemeek> It hurts the org's reputation to pay stuff late
10:55 <@benthemeek> RangerZ: On moving the meeting location, elonka suggested a couple of places but the important note was this isn't happening anytime soon. We might have to be thinking about it by the Fall but we have time
10:55 < RangerZ> benthemeek: not quite true
10:55 <@Dolemite> Public Libraries will usually let you use their space if you give them enough notice
10:55 < RangerZ> the developer MIGHT just buy out and start demolition ASAP too
10:56 <@benthemeek> there is also a community center that lets you meet for free if you schedule a couple months in advance
10:56 < RangerZ> b/c they might want 'grandfathered' for new building requirments/regulations
10:56 < RangerZ> so we need to prepare quickly
10:56 < RangerZ> because nashville has been thinking about putting MORE noise ordinances, etc in place
10:56 < RangerZ> b/c people are starting to get pissed at pre 7am blasting and jack hammering downtown... etc
10:57 < RangerZ> lol
10:57 < RangerZ> b/c NOW people with money are living there, lol
10:57 <@benthemeek> Well if it was bulldozed tomorrow, we would pick a spot and it would circulate around the lists and here. I don't think its that big a deal
10:58 < RangerZ> well, NOW, that officers actually come to IRC and talk, not so much
10:59 <@benthemeek> but maybe I dont know enough about finding places to meet. Elonka meets somewhere with her Gamedev group that she says is a good option but loud
10:59 < RangerZ> but before it might have had a really big impact
10:59 <@Dolemite> Hickory Hollow Mall Food Court!
10:59 <@CRasH180> lol
10:59 <@benthemeek> lol.
10:59 < RangerZ> I was thinking notlarry's office
10:59 <@CRasH180> The cookie store with the broken cookie bags
10:59 < RangerZ> "don't worry, you don't have to come to the meetings, we'll bring the meetings to you"
10:59 < RangerZ> lol
10:59 <@benthemeek> Oh elonka told me last night she cant arrange her plans for friday so she cant come to geeknic
10:59 <@benthemeek> she was rather disappointed
11:00 <@Dolemite> Well that sucks
11:00 <@benthemeek> I dont know if she has ever been to Gatlinburg I should of asked
11:00 <@Evilpig> blame that on me too
11:00 <@Dolemite> Now that she's a Tennesseean, she needs to experience all of the glory that is Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg
11:00 <@benthemeek> On you?
11:00 <@Dolemite> Everything is Evilpig's fault!
11:00 <@Evilpig> of course it is.
11:00 <@Evilpig> always my fault
11:00 <@Evilpig> pretty sure i cause cancer too
11:01 < RangerZ> Even Obama is like "Thanks Evilpig"
11:01 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: I think she wanted to come specificlly because you and Dolemite are going to be there
11:01 <@Dolemite> +1 RangerZ
11:01 <@Evilpig> I totally got that motherfucker elected, twice
11:01 <@benthemeek> PhreakNIC as one happy family again
11:01 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: She can always show up Saturday
11:02 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: feel free to tell her I said my bed is still empty
11:02 <@benthemeek> LOL
11:02 <@benthemeek> I will do that
11:02 <@Evilpig> ugh...  automation can be so nice...
11:03 <@benthemeek> I think all of us have that question in our minds as just what would it take to get Wilpig and Dolemite to come back to Phreaknic ;)
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11:03 <@benthemeek> But sharing a bed is probaly too far across ethical boundaries
11:06 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: I already told you my terms.  and really you aren't even a part of them.  next time I see dru, I get to kick him in the nuts.  
11:06 <@Evilpig> it's 100% personal and has to happen
11:11 <@benthemeek> In case any of you missed it I put up a sort of skeletal phreaknic site last night
11:12 <@benthemeek> Something I noticed though that I am not sure as to why is that phreaknic.org doesnt redirect right
11:12 <@benthemeek> phreaknic.info works as it should
11:12 <@benthemeek> My guess is it might have something to do with the SSL?
11:12 <@benthemeek> If any of you has a clue and doesnt mind sharing let me know
11:13 <@Evilpig> or it has to do with someone didn't set up the redirects right
11:13 <@Dolemite> Category: Piracy/Copyright Concerns
11:13 <@Dolemite> URL: http://phreaknic.org/
11:13 < PigBot`> Title: Site not found � DreamHost (at phreaknic.org)
11:13 <@Dolemite> That's what I get :)
11:13 <@Dolemite> Stupid ass proxy
11:15 <@benthemeek> heh, this video from geeknic was just suggested to me by youtube as I looking through phreaknic videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3yGJsyRGoM
11:15 < PigBot`> Title: Dolemite drinking from the waterfall - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:17 <@Dolemite> That was a near death experience, benthemeek
11:17 <@Dolemite> I was nearly dead by the time we reached it
11:18 <@Evilpig> the website does says a geek deathmarch
11:18 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to grab some lunch.  No way am I suffering through the crapeteria today.
11:19 <@Dolemite> Well if it's not pouring down raining, this year's hike is more akin to last time when we went to Laurel Falls
11:19 <@Dolemite> bbl
11:29 <@benthemeek> Is it bad practice to redirect instead of mirroring?
11:29 <@Evilpig> no
11:29 <@Evilpig> if you look at the old redirect I had in place...
11:29 <@benthemeek> The redirect seems to be the smart thing
11:29 <@benthemeek> I think it will actually work with our cert
11:29 <@benthemeek> the mirror breaks it though
11:29 <@benthemeek> Is my guess
11:32 <@Evilpig> the ssl cert is tied to a specific domain.  ie www.phreaknic.info not phreaknic.info not phreaknic.net, wwww.phreaknic.org, etc
11:33 <@Evilpig> if you're gonna use that damn thing then you have to have shit pointed right
11:34 <@benthemeek> Yeah, I didn't set it up and am trying to figure out how to get it right so that phreaknic.net, phreaknic.org actually start working
11:35 <@Evilpig> step 1: don't let idiots in there
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11:35 <@Evilpig> step 2: kick previous idiots in the nuts
11:35 <@benthemeek> I may fall into one of those two categories
11:35 <@Evilpig> ugh.  post code 0x41 stuck on pci initialization
11:36 <@oddball> Evilpig: Hey, at least the site hasn't eaten itself yet.  That's progress in my book.
11:36 <@Evilpig> then in your case.  step 3: find someone willing to fix it that isn't an idiot
11:37 <@benthemeek> I am trying two different solutions right now. We will see if it makes a difference when the panel updates in 10 min
11:38 <@benthemeek> Evilpig is there any possible way to scrap phreaknic 8's site?
11:38 <@benthemeek> it feels like the collection is incomplete
11:39 <@benthemeek> or is that just totally blown away with no hope of getting it back
11:39 <@Evilpig> it was scrapped, that's the problem
11:39 <@Evilpig> fuck.. I had to rebuild the first three...
11:40 <@benthemeek> I really wanted to get the picture you used for the ghost
11:40 <@benthemeek> I totally stole all the html from your 14 site i think
11:40 <@Evilpig> what ghost?
11:40 <@benthemeek> but I couldnt get the ghost to stay to the left
11:40 <@benthemeek> the history page you made for 14
11:40 <@Evilpig> bah.  alright all the pci risers removed, no raid, no nics... still stuck at trying to init the pci.
11:41 <@benthemeek> I ripped it off but couldn't get the spacing right. Needed to dig more into your CSS
11:41 <@benthemeek> bad MB
11:41 <@Evilpig> http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn14/
11:41 < PigBot`> Title: PhreakNIC14 - Tried as an Adult (at archive.phreaknic.info)
11:41 <@Evilpig> there's no ghost...
11:41 <@Evilpig> are you smoking crack?
11:41 < aestetix> question
11:42 <@benthemeek> http://archive.phreaknic.info/pn16/history
11:42 < PigBot`> Title: Phreaknic16 :: History (at archive.phreaknic.info)
11:42 < aestetix> does anyone have the image of the shirt I made for PN7?
11:42 < aestetix> I lost it :/
11:42 <@Evilpig> aestetix: yes
11:42 <@Evilpig> it's in the archives
11:42 < aestetix> oh wow really?
11:42 < aestetix> where
11:42 <@Evilpig> http://archive.phreaknic.info/history/shirts/pn07-back.png
11:43 < aestetix> that's not the one I made
11:43 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: I still have the original photoshop of that
11:43 <@Evilpig> that's the only one I had
11:43 < aestetix> :/
11:43 <@Evilpig> ARGGGGGG!!!!!
11:43 <@Evilpig> I hate replacing R720 motherboards
11:45 <@benthemeek> I was trying to get the layout to match yours on the current history page but I gave up after a little while. It wasn't the image as much and making the "leftbox" "rightbox"
11:45 <@benthemeek> My whole experience with CSS started with making the nashville2600 site though so I am still learning
11:53 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: We're not covering up the fact that dru is a raving loon. I will readily state that he is.
11:55 <@_NSAKEY> At this point, the only thing I think I've held back on is retyping some of his personal attacks from memory.
11:55 <@_NSAKEY> Otherwise, I've typed out the substance of what's in it.
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12:02 < Synx|hm_> i need a fucking direct number to mgmr or higher at comcast billing
12:03 < Synx|hm_> they will not return my calls, answering my official complaints or fix my fucking bill
12:03 <@_NSAKEY> Synx|hm_: Regarding your chats earlier, have you looked at La Vergne?
12:04 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm_: good luck on that.  call the general number about now actually
12:04 <@Evilpig> and you shoudl get someone
12:05 < Synx|hm_> a little not much though, wife already things cane ridge/antioch is far out side city but i could probably convince her
12:10 < Synx|hm_> lol the IVR hung up on me
12:10 < Synx|hm_> holy shit
12:11 < Synx|hm_> the last person who called me about my nashville franchise comission complaint and i yelled at and said not to call back until they fixed my bill
12:11 < Synx|hm_> actually credited my account $130
12:11 < Synx|hm_> score
12:12 < Synx|hm_> oh nm no they didn't
12:12 < Synx|hm_> fuckers
12:13 < RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/no-secret-instructions-from-obama-to-fcc-wheeler-tells-congress/
12:13 < PigBot`> Title: “No secret instructions” from Obama to FCC, Wheeler tells Congress | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
12:13 <@CRasH180> I like where I live. It is about ten to twenty minutes from everything
12:13 < RangerZ> fuck that story
12:13 < RangerZ> I WANT obama to have told wheeler to stop being a dick
12:13 < RangerZ> lol
12:18 < NexusL> lol
12:21 < aestetix> today is fired
12:21 < aestetix> what an awful day so far
12:22 < Synx|hm_> ok i got a person and now im back in the transfer out loop
12:22 < Synx|hm_> god i fucking hate this company
12:29 <@Evilpig> they hate you too
12:32 < RangerZ> Dear Mr FuckFace Synx|hm_ , our Valued Comcast Customer
12:32 < RangerZ> thats how his next bill will arive
12:32 < RangerZ> lol
12:32 < Synx|hm_> lol
12:32 < Synx|hm_> this poor woman, she sounds so depressed with her job probably gets yelled at all day long
12:33 < Synx|hm_> i did my best to be nice but stern
12:33 < RangerZ> being allowed to drink at a call center job helps
12:33 < RangerZ> especially when you aren't given scripts and are told "just help them get online"
12:34 <@SuMo_D> I've had a few and still have a few friends that work at call centers...
12:35 <@SuMo_D> not fun, but at least it pays
12:35 <@benthemeek> http://web.archive.org/web/20040607213834/http://www.phreaknic.info/index.php
12:35 < PigBot`> Title: PhreakNIC 8 - Nashville, TN (at web.archive.org)
12:36 < aestetix> heh
12:36 < aestetix> "As per tradition since PhreakNIC 6, there will be some sort of souvenir swag given out to the first 300 paid attendees."
12:37 <@SuMo_D> swaaaaaaag
12:38 < Synx|hm_> $130 in data cap charges
12:38 < Synx|hm_> in feb
12:38 < Synx|hm_> lol
12:38 < RangerZ> unfortunately no 'data cap' BS in the new FFC rules
12:38 < RangerZ> THAT needs to be fixed
12:38 <@Evilpig> no shit
12:38 < RangerZ> AFAIK
12:39 <@oddball> Eh... the data cap pisses me off, but I'm ok with it being legal... as long as they're clear and up front about it.  Of course... they're not, but...
12:40 < RangerZ> http://www.wsmv.com/story/28537737/swastikas-spray-painted-on-jewish-fraternitys-house-at-vanderbilt
12:40 < PigBot`> Title: Swastikas spray-painted on Jewish fraternity house at Vandy - WSMV Channel 4 (at www.wsmv.com)
12:40 < RangerZ> oddball: fuck that
12:40 < RangerZ> if I'm paying for 'speed'
12:40 < RangerZ> then told "well you can't use that speed more than 2 hours a month"
12:40 < RangerZ> I'm not REALLY getting that speed to use as I wish
12:41 <@oddball> I don't see it any different than the old model of long distance phone service.
12:41 <@Evilpig> oddball: and then they moved to free long distance
12:41 < RangerZ> I'm sorry you sight is so bad
12:41 < RangerZ> ;)
12:41 <@Evilpig> they're trying to go back in time
12:42 <@Dolemite> Heh, what a meta experience.  I used Google Wallet NFC to pay for my lunch today - first time using it.  It's funded by an American Express, but then presents itself as Master Card.  Just imagine how many transaction fees are wrapped up in that crap.
12:42 < RangerZ> 0.50$
12:42 < RangerZ> because CC fees are capped by the FTC
12:43 < RangerZ> at $0.25 per transaction
12:43 <@oddball> Again, not saying that I *like* it, just that I'm ok with it being *legal*
12:43 <@Dolemite> RangerZ: No, CC fees are a percentage of the overall amount.  It's the minimum fee that was regulated to not be overboard.
12:45 < RangerZ> I meant the 'fee' part, which is what goes to MC , VISA, etc, not the % part that goes to the 'bank' behind them
12:45 < RangerZ> but *shrugs* I haven't looked into it in a long time, it might have changed or I might be slightly off base, either way... yeah... thats a weird experience
12:46 < RangerZ> google wallet vs apple pay, etc is going to be an 'issue' soon I fear
12:46 <@Dolemite> It's 21 cents + 0.05%
12:46 <@Dolemite> Google Wallet is simply MasterCard PayPass
12:47 < RangerZ> also... no talk of jewish frats with swastikas in them ?
12:47 < RangerZ> thats kinda surprising
12:47 < RangerZ> lol, figured aestetix would comment
12:47 <@Dolemite> I don't see it being an issue, anyway.  Apple Pay is the Visa version, Google Wallet is the MasterCard version.
12:47 < RangerZ> him and his german-wanna-be-blood now, lol
12:48 <@Dolemite> Of course, /. had an article earlier today about how much fraud is starting to show up in Apple Pay because they made it so easy for the geriatrics to set it up.
12:50 < RangerZ> I'll see your /. and raise you a :/
12:50 < RangerZ> lol
12:50 <@Dolemite> Invalid regular expression
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12:55 < aestetix> heh
12:55 < aestetix> I'm pretty sure the email I just got at "penis@aestetix.com" is spam
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13:00 <@Dolemite> Why, because you don't have one?
13:02 < RangerZ> Dolemite: thats not nice
13:03 < RangerZ> Trans-people will take that as an insult being compared to aestetix
13:04 < RangerZ> http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150316/civic-center/2-nypd-officers-who-edited-wikipedia-posts-face-no-punishment-sources-say
13:04 < PigBot`> Title: 2 NYPD Officers Who Edited Wikipedia Pages Face Slap on Wrist - Civic Center - DNAinfo.com New York (at www.dnainfo.com)
13:05 < RangerZ> "damn it Johnson, we told you to not get caught"
13:37 < aestetix> oh great
13:38 < aestetix> I just got stoned and I have a meeting in 2 hours
13:47 <@Dagmar> YOU'RE GOING TO DIE
13:47 <@Dagmar> EVERYONE WILL KNOW
13:48 < dfused> we've already alerted the authorities
13:48 < aestetix> Dagmar: don't feed the paranoia
13:49 <@oddball> So... I shouldn't mention the fact that your boss' face is melting into a nasty alien creature?
13:49 < dfused> hah
13:49 <@oddball> and now it's going to eat your face.
13:50 < dfused> and the letters on the marker board are starting to dance to some oingo boingo music
13:50 <@Dagmar> oddball: Only if you want to demonstrate a complete unfamiliarity with drugs
13:50 < aestetix> hahaha
13:50 < aestetix> Yep, the world is moving in frames
13:50 <@Dagmar> By the way, 'Monsters: Dark Continent' is worthy of it's low rating
13:50 <@Dagmar> It's dull
13:50 <@oddball> Dagmar: but... but... that's what the government sponsored anti-drugs videos told me!  Are you telling me that the government would lie to me?
13:51 < aestetix> dfused: the markers don't dance, but they are chatting lightly at me
13:51 <@oddball> you sure they're not conspiring against you?
13:52 <@Dagmar> ...it's somewhat impressive that they achieve "dull" considering that the setup is that there are somehow now giant six-story monsters sort of wandering around stepping on people
13:54 <@oddball> heh
13:54 <@Dagmar> I'm not even sure they're stepping on people
13:54 < aestetix> man this is strong
13:54 <@Dagmar> Mainly they seem to like gumming radio tower lights and fondling stray television sets
13:55 <@oddball> Well, they did manage to make big budget Transformers movies where the giant effing robots were supporting cast in their own damn movie.
13:55 <@Dagmar> THis is true
13:56 < dfused> i hate pine trees
13:56 <@Dolemite> burninate them!
13:57 < dfused> must burn all pine trees!!!!
13:57 < dfused> DIE DIE DIE
13:57 <@Dagmar> Fuck
13:57 < dfused> damn dripping tar all over everything... cant hold up to bad weather.... f'ing pollen all over everything... just worthless
13:58 <@Dagmar> I've been sitting here trying to figure out how to do activity<->fragment communication and it finally hit me...
13:58 <@Dagmar> Otehrclass.method();
13:58 <@Dagmar> *derp*
13:58 <@Dagmar> There's fuck-all stopping me from just calling the parent activity methods normally
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14:08 < Synx|hm> http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2015/02/nbj-announces-2015-best-places-to-work-finalists.html
14:08 < PigBot`> Title: NBJ announces 2015 Best Places to Work finalists - Nashville Business Journal (at www.bizjournals.com)
14:13 <@Dolemite> Yay!  Saturday forecast now shows sunny with a high of 61F.  Should be great hiking weather.
14:24 <@oddball> nice
14:27 < Synx|hm> sweet
14:28 <@Evilpig> westgate just called me about free water park tickets or a $75 gift cert
14:30 <@Evilpig> bah!  she called me back trying to sell me time shares
14:31 <@oddball> yep... that's the real business of that place.
14:35 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5z8az4lebfwkxl9/Photo%20Mar%2013%2C%202%2043%2037%20PM.jpg?dl=0
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14:43 < RangerZ> Evilpig: did you ever get served legal notice from crazypants at work?
14:44 < RangerZ> or did tumblr's lawyers laugh at it so hard that they didn't even bothr { << I'm guessing thats how they spell it ;) } to give it to you? lol
14:46 <@Dolemite> so for those who have never gone through the process
14:47 <@Dolemite> Any civil complaint wouldn't have gone through Tumblr, it would have gone directy to Evilpig
14:47 <@Dolemite> However, for maximum pain-in-the-ass factor, you could list his work address for the process server
14:48 <@Dolemite> s/directy/directly
14:48 <@Dolemite> Now a letter, on the other hand, could easily be sent to any and all parties via US Mail or courier
14:48 <@Dolemite> That would most definitely be laughed off by all involved
14:48 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: it would come to me directly and it would be intercepted by security
14:49 <@Evilpig> I have received nothing and I won't because crazy is what crazypants does
14:52 < RangerZ> I wasn't being serious at all, lol
14:52 < RangerZ> i knew she'd never send anythin
14:52 < RangerZ> g*
14:53 <@Dolemite> I, on the other hand, received a box of cat poop from somebody in New Jersey.  Any clue who that would have been?
14:55 <@Dolemite> Wow, we're now at the point where I'm getting phone calls for someone who left here over 5 years ago
14:56 < aestetix> Dolemite: Bahhumbug gets mad a lot. He might have been crazy enough to send it.
14:56 <@Dolemite> I figured 4 years was as far as I could stretch the marketing list calls
14:57 <@CRasH180> Is there such a service that sends cat poop via mail, FedEx, UPS, etc?
14:57 <@Dolemite> Evilpig will be happy to box some up for you
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14:57 < aestetix> You mean like the glitter service?
14:58 <@Dolemite> Cat poop bomb
14:58 <@CRasH180> yeah, but I do not want to shower poop on the person that opens the package
14:59 <@oddball> http://www.poopsenders.com/
14:59 < PigBot`> Title: poopsenders - the ULTIMATE gag gift - SWEET revenge at its finest (at www.poopsenders.com)
14:59 <@CRasH180> perfect!
14:59 < aestetix> this is making this high gigglesome
14:59 <@CRasH180> Just what everyone want's for Christmas
14:59 <@oddball> Doesn't look like cat is an option from them.  Just cow, elephant, and gorilla.
15:00 < aestetix> god that is awful
15:00 <@oddball> Damn... the options ar 1 quart or 1 gallon.
15:00 < aestetix> the picture of the elephant pooping on the front page
15:00 <@CRasH180> If you can imagine how bad cat poop smells, imagine one of those animals
15:00 <@CRasH180> dead carcus poop
15:01 <@oddball> heh... apparently they also have mirror site "shitsenders.com"
15:01 <@Dolemite> Or this
15:01 <@Dolemite> http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/someone-did-a-shit-so-bad-a-british-airways-flight-had-to-turn-around-and-land-475
15:01 <@oddball> CRasH180: Having 5 cats, I know exactly how bad cat poop smells.
15:02 <@Dolemite> Invite that person over for a house party at your enemy's place
15:02 <@oddball> Of course, chances are by the time it gets anywhere, it will have dried out.
15:02 <@CRasH180> My Sister had 5 cats.
15:02 < aestetix> oddball: "just add water"
15:02 <@CRasH180> bag it, vacuum seal it, and rehydrate upon arrival
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15:03 -!- aestetix was kicked from #se2600 by Bahhumbug [In real life you'd get punched in the throat, writhe around on the ground and quite likely die from the blow. In IRC this will have to suffice.]
15:04 <@Dolemite> What now?
15:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!~aestetix@*.2600.com] by Bahhumbug
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15:04 <@Bahhumbug> His mother didn't swallow.  That's what.
15:04 < aestetix> What did I miss while I was gone?
15:04  * aestetix hugs Bahhumbug 
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15:04 -!- aestetix was kicked from #se2600 by Bahhumbug [In real life you'd get punched in the throat, writhe around on the ground and quite likely die from the blow. In IRC this will have to suffice.]
15:05  * Dagmar loads the hate-blaster and points it at Facebook
15:05 <@brimstone> whole lot of hate in that guy
15:05 <@Dagmar> I just got the stupid "we're not sure it's an authentic name" thing from Tinder's FB login
15:06 <@Dagmar> ...and FB, true to form, appears to have fucked up their site templates
15:06 <@Bahhumbug> Oh come now.  FB never fucks up.
15:08 <@oddball> So... I chopped about 8" of Naienko's hair yesterday. It now only comes down to her knees.
15:08 <@Bahhumbug> Wow.  Seriously?
15:08 <@Bahhumbug> Most women don't want to deal with the hassles of hair that long.  Nice to see someone still is willing to put up with it.
15:08 <@oddball> yup
15:09 <@Bahhumbug> The more I think about it, the more awesome I think that is.  +1 to Naienko.
15:09 <@oddball> She tells me that there's a point where there's really not that much extra hassle to deal with more hair.
15:10 <@oddball> Although, she was getting to the stage where she was in danger of stepping on it.
15:11 <@oddball> and she gets mad at me when I laugh at her for sitting on her hair.
15:11  * NexusL pounds head into desk......."i hate Miva Ecommerce
15:11 <@oddball> Oh, I'm being informed that she *did* stand on her hair yesterday... which prompted the chopping.
15:12 <@Bahhumbug> Ouch.
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15:20 <@Dagmar> Now I see why people wind up with a million browser tabs open
15:20 <@Dagmar> Android docs.
15:22 < RangerZ> +1
15:23 < RangerZ> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/world/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-elections-arabs.html
15:23 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I found a BUG!
15:23 <@Dagmar> ...or course it was at 5am so I might have just been out of my gourd.
15:23 < RangerZ> this is like the GOP saying (on the record) releasing a Youtube video "we might lose because the blacks are voting... hurry!!!!"
15:25 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I blew hours trying to work out how to pass data back and forth between the fragment and the main activity
15:25 <@Dagmar> ...then I realized, none of this needs to be bidirectional.
15:26 <@Dagmar> I was probably hastening the heat-death of the universe calling other Activities
15:27 < RangerZ> Dagmar: its easy
15:27 <@Dagmar> I think I might just stick with doing that
15:27 < RangerZ> you make an interface
15:27 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Does it *get* me anything *usefuL*?
15:27 < RangerZ> and then have the base activity implement the interface
15:27 < RangerZ> eys
15:27 < RangerZ> yes*
15:27 < RangerZ> but... it depends on 'what' you want to do
15:27 <@Dagmar> Like, I thought at first if I used a fragment, it would pop up and only cover part of hte display
15:27 <@Dagmar> I am literally just popping up dialog input boxes
15:27 < RangerZ> if you use 2 fragments, then yes
15:28 < RangerZ> you can have different layouts for different screen sizes/orientations/etc
15:28 < RangerZ> and then just have the fragment(s) that will 'fit' on the screen the user has, start up
15:28 <@Dagmar> I see now that if I want that I will have to get slightly fancy with the main activity's layout and turn it into a framelayout with fragments stacking atop one another
15:28 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: The dialogs are very, very simple.
15:28 < RangerZ> yeah
15:29 <@Dagmar> The most complex one just has about ten elements to pick from.
15:29 < RangerZ> but 'just' using dialogs is kinda overkill, if you aren't using other fragments
15:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah, fragments would only let me have a slightly flashier visual
15:30 <@Dagmar> At the worst, someone will be three dialogs deep, and then they'll be back at the main activity again
15:30 < RangerZ> it would let you make your fragments more logically into 'parts' that each fulfill a smaller part of the overall UI
15:30 < RangerZ> and then you can just pick/choose which ones to use in the layouts
15:30 <@Dagmar> The settings page has four buttons.  One takes a short string, one takes a URL, and the other two are basically enum values with a very small selection
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15:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah yeah I know the docs just gush about reusing interface bits
15:31 <@Dagmar> ...but none of this is reuseable
15:31 <@Dagmar> I stopped short of imeplementing a Button class override, since basically anything can be a button
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15:32 < RangerZ> aestetix: did you learn not to be a prick?
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15:32 <@Bahhumbug> Nope.
15:32 <@Bahhumbug> He's a little too stupid to be able to learn.
15:32 <@Dagmar> ....and frankly, this project is running face-first into what I don't like about Java.
15:32 <@Dagmar> It's crap for complex data structures
15:33 <@Bahhumbug> This implies there are elements to the language you like?
15:33 <@Dagmar> It has nice IDEs?
15:33 < RangerZ> what do you mean? java is actually one of the easiest languages to deal with complex data structures
15:33 <@Dagmar> I have a 48-long set of enumerate things for the inventory bits
15:33 <@Dagmar> er enumerated
15:34 < RangerZ> ok?
15:34 <@Dagmar> In perl, it would be stupidly easy... $ref->{busters}->{l8} = 3.  Expand as necessary.  Done.
15:35 < RangerZ> just give your enum some methods
15:35 <@Dagmar> It's simple, it's readable, and it doesn't require me to instantate some things one way, and other things another
15:35 < RangerZ> I do that all the time
15:36 < RangerZ> hold on
15:36 <@Dagmar> Every single bit of it appears to be about 3-5x more complex in Java
15:37 <@Dagmar> The only good thing about it is that if I want my output to look _exactly_ like it does on the game clientt screen, I have to walk all the possible items one at a time
15:38 <@Dagmar> Oh.. the bug!  If you change the background on a layout, it loses it's padding settings
15:38 < RangerZ> http://pastebin.com/m4mkjjjs
15:38 < PigBot`> Title: [Java] public enum Each { /** the contract, only one **/ CONTRACT("contract"), /* - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
15:40 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Absolutely none of that kind of thing is necessary in perl
15:40 < RangerZ> so?
15:41 <@Dagmar> I don't think just because the computer is meant to read it, that you should have to go so deeply into complex ritual forms of speech
15:41 < RangerZ> I don't see the issue, you just write a simple :  public String getString() {                return val;        } and you call it from the enum you have, and it gets you the string version
15:41 < RangerZ> you can put multiple variables in each enum too
15:42 <@Dagmar> So how does that replace using a hash of hashes?
15:42 < RangerZ> String keyString = KEY.getString()
15:42 < RangerZ> ;
15:42 <@Dagmar> I had to enumerate the item types because the client shows them in a very particular order
15:42 < RangerZ> gets you the string
15:43 < RangerZ> you can make them ints
15:43 < RangerZ> whatever
15:43 <@Dagmar> And.the.Resulting().query.is().impossibly(new long);
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15:43 < RangerZ> getValue is brute force, but simple, and allows you to go {string} -> enum
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15:45 < RangerZ> you would declare your enum as:  private Bit(int val){ this.value = val;} and then above declare BIT_ONE(1); if you want integers
15:45 < RangerZ> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/javaOO/enum.html the Planet example shows using two variables
15:45 < PigBot`> Title: Enum Types (The Java Tutorials > Learning the Java Language > Classes and Objects) (at docs.oracle.com)
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15:47 <@oddball> Dagmar: Finally got hit by Facebook's "real name" bullshit?
15:51 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:52 <@Dagmar> Eventually they're going to realize there's way more reporting done out of malice than there is anything else
15:52 <@oddball> pfft that would require admitting that they were wrong.
15:53 <@oddball> Remember that this is the site that suspended Michael Z Williamson for the correct use of the word "chigger."
15:54 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I know
15:54 <@Bahhumbug> I think they are going to continue to not care and do whatever they want, whether it offends people or not.
15:54 <@Dagmar> I'll bet it was one of those idiot republicans
15:55 < RangerZ> just photoshop a fucking TN DL
15:56 < RangerZ> they look like a joke anyways, so its not like FB could tell
15:57 <@Bahhumbug> I'm curious... what makes you say they look like a joke?
15:57 <@Evilpig> I've been reporting this asshole i'm friends with for weeks and they won't do shit about his fake name.  Michael Farnette.  Farnette is so fucking fake, it's obvious
15:57 <@Dagmar> I have freaking PGP keys older than most of their employees
15:58 <@Dagmar> At the end of the day, what they decide is what they decide, but if they want to cancel my account, I'm giving them a black eye for it.
15:59 <@oddball> Evilpig: I know right?  Nobody actually has the last name "Farnette."
15:59 <@oddball> (there's actually only 4 "Farnettes" currently on the planet.
16:01 <@Evilpig> oddball: so what you're _really_ saying is we can stop that problem right now and nobody would really notice
16:01 <@oddball> I'm pretty damned sure that I'm better armed and better trained than you are, piggy.
16:02  * Evilpig stares at oddball 
16:03 <@CRasH180> oink?!
16:03 <@Evilpig> shhh i'm being itimidating
16:03 <@CRasH180> oink?! oink?!
16:04 <@oddball> oh... sorry.  Thought you had gas.
16:04 <@Evilpig> i'm having a lively debate with another dept and I really want to end this with "you caused the problem motherfucker, now fucking fix it"
16:04 <@oddball> heh
16:06 <@Evilpig> we had several switches with uplinks using SFP's and a few not using them because they had no need.  the switches weren't fully populated
16:06 <@Evilpig> so one of them got the brilliant idea to make them all the same.  the last four physical ports would now be uplink and CDUs
16:06 <@Evilpig> fine...
16:06 <@Evilpig> whatever...
16:07 < aestetix> ok less stoned now
16:07 <@Evilpig> well now our OOB server management just fucking dies randomly on the sfp's and their answer is... "we just found there's a bug with the oob and the switch ports"
16:07 <@Evilpig> good... so you know the problem, you caused the problem in the first place, now FUCKING FIX IT
16:08 < aestetix> whats OOB?
16:08 < aestetix> order of business?
16:08 < dfused> wow.....
16:09 < RangerZ> out of band is my guess
16:10 <@Evilpig> out of band.  idrac, ilo, ipmi, call it what you wnat
16:10 < RangerZ> which is really surprising b/c OOB auth is a 'big deal' for identity authentication
16:12 <@CRasH180> oink?
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16:20 <@Evilpig> email from recruiter...  "Position : Linux Admin"  ... items required... "Resume in MS word: "
16:22 < RangerZ> lets be honest, that DOES make sense
16:22 < RangerZ> b/c HR is using windows
16:23 <@frosty> Eeewww windows!
16:24 <@Bahhumbug> It's industry standard.  I don't know of a placement firm that does not have that requirement.
16:24 <@Bahhumbug> And s/ms word/standard .doc format/
16:26 <@frosty> Word.
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16:29 < aestetix> I hate anything in .doc that's intended to be edited
16:29 < aestetix> pdf is much better
16:29 < RangerZ> you forgot English already?
16:29 < RangerZ> that isn't* intended
16:30 < RangerZ> lol
16:31 < aestetix> lol
16:31 <@CRasH180> That was meant to be edited
16:34 < RangerZ> CRasH180: I had to fucking go DL MS WORD to edit the file for the chapter we were writing , b/c my advisor was using the comments feature, and it was crashing libreoffice everytime I tried to save an update
16:34 < RangerZ> this weekend I'm thinking of seeing if I can replicate it, and submit a bug :/
16:35 <@CRasH180> I would
16:35 < RangerZ> both on linux and windows
16:36 < RangerZ> so it was a fundamental issue
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16:36 <@CRasH180> Geez
16:39 < aestetix> if only there were a good annotation tool we could use
16:39 < aestetix> hypothes.is
16:41 <@CRasH180> That is a good hypothes.is
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16:45 < RangerZ> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478396,00.asp
16:45 < PigBot`> Title: Microsoft Ditching Internet Explorer for 'Project Spartan' | News & Opinion | PCMag.com (at www.pcmag.com)
16:47 <@Evilpig> is that a skin for chrome?
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16:51 < RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_browser_rendering_engine apparently not
16:51 < PigBot`> Title: Spartan browser rendering engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:52 < aestetix> oh god
16:52 < aestetix> MT @LadyCartoonist Saying “women who use power tools are hot” enrages me. Can we just say “people who use power tools are hot”?
16:52 < aestetix> twitter you are awful
16:52 <@Evilpig> no we can't.  because a fat dude on a jackhammer does nothing in my pants
16:53 <@Evilpig> a busty bimbo working a dremel, fuck yeah
16:53 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5bYDhZBFLA
16:53 < PigBot`> Title: Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Official Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:53 < RangerZ> nope... no guys
16:55 < RangerZ> aestetix: that should be your reply
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17:00 < aestetix> Ok so....
17:00 < aestetix> Liberal means government should do more, and conservative means government should do less, right?
17:01 < RangerZ> do you mean historically?
17:01 < RangerZ> no
17:02 < RangerZ> liberal -> people should be allowed to form their own government, conservative -> there should be a king
17:03 < RangerZ> now a days liberal -> a big gov't should do progressive things that help everyone, conservative -> a big gov't should do regressive things that hurt everyone that isn't super rich
17:03 < RangerZ> ;)
17:09 < RangerZ> republicans want government small enough to fit into your doctor's office and bedroom
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17:52 < RangerZ> well... if your MFing webpage puts 21 ghostry trackers on it... I guess I'll just have to look at the source code to find the video I wanted to watch
17:52 < RangerZ> http://cdn.phoenix.intergi.com/1000771/videos/3434600/video-sd.mp4
17:57 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Go read about Whigs and Tories some time.
18:04 < RangerZ> seeing if netanyahu won re-election in Isreal will be interesting
18:05 < RangerZ> he came out today and said he refused to allow a palestinian state
18:07 < RangerZ> it will literally be south africa and its apartheid again here soon, b/c of the growing Palestinian population that isreal refuses to grant citizenship or give them their own state :/
18:08 < dfused> they should go get their own country
18:08 < RangerZ> they should
18:08 < RangerZ> I suggest alabama
18:08 < RangerZ> but thats just me
18:08 < RangerZ> the people are bit more racist than the middle east
18:08 < RangerZ> but 'ehh'
18:09 < RangerZ> the good w/ the bad
18:09 < dfused> sierra leon needs an overhaul... they could pick there
18:09 <@Bahhumbug> They kinda sorta had their own country up until the 50s.
18:09 <@Bahhumbug> (Emphasis on kinda sorta)
18:10 < dfused> yeah but we fixed that stupid crap... took care of them reaaal good
18:11 <@Bahhumbug> By creating the State of Israel and giving them the land of their enemies since the dawn of recorded history.
18:11 <@Bahhumbug> Yep, that's bound to work out well.
18:11 < RangerZ> doesn't matter, time will solve this
18:11 < RangerZ> it'll be Palestine by 2050 anyways
18:12 < dfused> well duh... I mean, we always end up having to go into other countries and fixing eveything for them... it all works out in the end....never backlashes or nuthi
18:12 < dfused> n
18:12 < RangerZ> in all but name, lol
18:12 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: No, it won't.
18:12 < RangerZ> isreal doesn't have a high enough birth rate
18:12 < dfused> MURICA FUCK YEAH!
18:12 <@Bahhumbug> They also have zero problems with slaughtering their enemies.
18:12 < RangerZ> it'll be 50%+ palestinian in what... 2035?
18:13 < dfused> next on teh list is venezuela...we gotta go int there and fix them too
18:13 <@Bahhumbug> Much of that is actually mixed Israeli / Palenstinian blood.
18:14 < RangerZ> Personally, just give it to the UN, the entire area
18:14 < RangerZ> and just let them be 'citizens of earth'
18:14 < RangerZ> lol
18:14 < dfused> DOOP
18:15 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah.  That'll end well.
18:15 <@Bahhumbug> The UN being the impotent body that it is and all.
18:15 < RangerZ> who said it would end well?
18:15 < RangerZ> not I
18:16 <@Bahhumbug> Well, you did just advocate for it.  And you're smart enough to realize that it would go from bad to epicly worse.
18:17 < dfused> yeah but why do we keep postponing the enevitable
18:17 < dfused> its like... might as well vote hillary into office.  dammit if we're gonna blow it all up, GO WITH A BANG not with a whimper
18:18 < RangerZ> hilary is the best repbulican that can get elected
18:18 < dfused> lol
18:19 < RangerZ> sorry  did I accidentally say the truth there?
18:19 < dfused> doooo iiiiit
18:19 < RangerZ> fuck... thats why I'll probably never be a politician
18:19 < RangerZ> I say the truth too easily
18:19 < dfused> and I'm too damn connected to reality
18:19 < RangerZ> "yes, that dress does make you look fat Evilpig"
18:22 < dfused> ugh... I gotta buckle down and finish studying.... but this damn migraine is killing me. mebbe I'll take a nap
18:24 < RangerZ> what you studying now?
18:24 < RangerZ> MCSE?
18:25 < dfused> ccna security
18:27 < RangerZ> haha, sure, good luck on the A+ cert test
18:27 < RangerZ> ;)
18:29 < dfused> heh
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18:41 < RangerZ> http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Cyberpunk-Sale-Goes-Live-70728.html b/c apparently Steam wants all of oddball's money
18:52 < RangerZ> http://store.steampowered.com/app/70100/ I thought the thumbnail of this said Sid Meier's
18:52 < PigBot`> Title: Save 80% on Hacker Evolution on Steam (at store.steampowered.com)
18:53 < RangerZ> really only saw the " 's " on the top line, stupid glare :/
18:58 <@_NSAKEY> http://wkrn.com/2015/03/17/medical-marijuana-bill-with-republican-sponsor-likely-to-emerge/
18:58 < PigBot`> Title: Medical marijuana bill with Republican sponsor likely to emerge | WKRN News 2 (at wkrn.com)
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19:40 <@Shadow404> _NSAKEY: they legalized thc oil in GA for medical purposes
19:40 <@Shadow404> im really suprised how quickly these bills are passing
19:41 <@Shadow404> hell, D.C. took me by complete surpise
19:41 <@Bahhumbug> Oddly enough I didn't find DC surprising.
19:42 <@Evilpig> once you had places like Colorada go legal and the world didn't implode the rest of the country will follow eventually
19:42 <@Bahhumbug> The fact that the republicunts aren't able to do anything about it, however, is amusing.
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20:28 < aestetix> Should I give the channel a basket of flowers or a bucket of shit?
20:28 < aestetix> oh god
20:28 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/577987887779569664
20:28 < PigBot`> Title: jay, wyrd sister on Twitter: "dont you ever trust an ally who wants you to tone down your anger. that anger is valid. that anger is your RIGHT." (at twitter.com)
20:37 < aestetix> can someone please tell me how a prescription drug can be $30/month with insurance, and $600/month without?
20:37 < aestetix> and that's for the generic
20:40 <@Evilpig> cause your insurance company negotiated a fuck you rate
20:41 < aestetix> a fuck you rate?
20:42 <@Evilpig> if you want a real deep dicking from them take zyrtec d for a decade then have it go off prescription.  it goes from $30 a month for a thirty day supply to $25 for a 12 day supply
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21:05 <@Evilpig> oddball: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weiner/the-gentlemans-single-use-monocle?ref=video
21:05 < PigBot`> Title: The Gentleman's Single-Use Monocle by Zachary Weiner Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
21:05 <@Evilpig> this is the perfect thing to take to cons
21:22 <@RangerZ> https://instagram.com/p/0WbAH8ybAF/
21:22 < PigBot`> Title: Linus Sebastian on Instagram: “Dropped by the new Linus Media Group HQ. spraying the inside of the warehouse is well underway!!!” (at instagram.com)
21:22 <@RangerZ> is the text in the comments fucked up for everyone?
21:25 <@Bahhumbug> This is the only comment that's odd for me: http://i.imgur.com/78kKPrq.png
21:26 <@Evilpig> I only see one fucked up comment and it looks intentional
21:30 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
21:31 <@Evilpig> I need to make out an invoice and all my templates are on the computer that's off
21:32 <@Evilpig> where did i stash that network power on script
21:32 <@Evilpig> heh.  there it is.  "wakepig"
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22:19 < aestetix> penis
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23:11 <@SuMo_D> blarg
23:12 <@oddball> yep.  Going to hell: http://tygenco.tumblr.com/post/113929216434/fat-cat-pet-door
23:12 < PigBot`> Title: Snark, smarts, and uncommon sense - That is not a cat, that is a pony keg with legs. (at tygenco.tumblr.com)
23:13 <@SuMo_D> oh poor thing
23:14 <@oddball> Tell me you didn't laugh, and I'll call you a liar.
23:15 <@SuMo_D> you'll never know hahaha
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23:58  * CRasH180 says in the voice of a really pissed off cat, "I swear I could wear that cat door last week!"
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