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00:22 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: yeah, because German law will catch him hard soon
00:25 < aestetix> oh wow
00:25 < aestetix> http://www.outandaboutnashville.com/story/shes-hot-nashville-rollergirl-erin-mccargar
00:33 < RangerZ> of course she's hot, look at her name, Celtic as hell
00:33 < RangerZ> lol
00:37 < RangerZ> thank god that they called their fucking stupidity out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkHJItvHxkE
00:37 < PigBot`> Title: Morning Joe Blames Rap Music For White Frat Boys Being Racist - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:37 <@Dagmar> Wow.
00:37 < aestetix> has anyone played Fez?
00:37 <@Dagmar> You'd think he'd know better than to even try an argument he can't win like that
00:37 < aestetix> That game looks cool
00:37 < aestetix> debating buying it
00:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix: ...and if they only know she has a dick.
00:38 < aestetix> huh?
00:38 <@oddball> RangerZ: I... wut?
00:38 <@Dagmar> aestetix: The rollergirls araticle
00:38 < aestetix> oh
00:38 <@Dagmar> As far as I know, Erin's still pre-op
00:38 < aestetix> I was like.... what doesthat have to do with Fez
00:38 <@Dagmar> Not like I care, but some people would freak out
00:39 < aestetix> ok so
00:39 <@oddball> Dagmar: Nope.  Pretty sure post-op.
00:39 < aestetix> have any of you played Fez?
00:39 <@Dagmar> oddball: Finally got it cut off then?  Cool
00:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I've seen it.  That's all I can really say about it
00:39 <@oddball> Yep.  Happened a couple years ago.
00:40 <@Dagmar> Next time I see her I'll ask her the one question I have
00:40 <@Dagmar> "Don't you miss peeing standing up?"
00:40 < aestetix> Dagmar: funnels
00:40 <@Dagmar> yeah but that still involves messy hardware
00:40 < aestetix> I will admit I'm curious what sex feels like for girls
00:40 < aestetix> But not curious enough for the chopping block
00:41 < aestetix> The thought of that scares me deeply, actually.
00:43 < aestetix> I guess that was TMI
00:44 <@oddball> Hey, at least we now know that there's something that you won't stick your penis into (a cigar cutter).
00:45 <@Dagmar> Adorabuhlness alert! http://i.imgur.com/fzSWzkD.gifv
00:45 < PigBot`> Title: You're going to jail Greg (at i.imgur.com)
00:46 <@oddball> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2015-03/9/18/enhanced/webdr03/enhanced-17450-1425941347-4.jpg
00:47 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: http://www.truefabrications.com/images/products/large/2266.jpg
00:47 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: ugh
00:47 < aestetix> and I normally like cigars
00:47 <@oddball> And naienko has informed me that we need this expansion for Smash Up: http://tinyurl.com/pmeow9o
00:57 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: So if you ever speak in person at PhreakNIC again and a bunch of us start playing with cigar cutters in the front row, you're going to choke?
00:58 < aestetix> haha
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04:06 < RangerZ1> so... people's thoughts... https://medium.com/@sailorhg/coding-like-a-girl-595b90791cce
04:06 < PigBot`> Title: Coding Like a Girl — Medium (at medium.com)
04:09 < aestetix> vagina
04:24 < RangerZ1> aestetix: you literally -are the problem- with a lot of links posted in here....
04:37 < aestetix> wht?
04:40 < RangerZ1> the link is about women developers, your comment just reeks of being a 'dude-bro-grammer'
04:40 < RangerZ1> lol
04:43 < aestetix> uh
04:44 < aestetix> I didn't see the link
04:44 < aestetix> was too busy catching up with the new twitter drama
04:46 < RangerZ1> thats your problem
04:46 < RangerZ1> trying to keep track of that
04:46 < RangerZ1> lol
04:47 < RangerZ1> twitter really does make the barrier to entry too easy
04:47 < aestetix> well actually the latest one is really big
04:47 < RangerZ1> ?
04:47 < RangerZ1> I said that before, but I'm really starting to think its not 'quite' wrong, just over-simplification
04:47 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/575674802142330881
04:47 < PigBot`> Title: WikiLeaks on Twitter: ".@Twitter says they will suspend @WikiLeaks account today unless we remove photo of this German conman/informer: https://t.co/sjwkPqBdos" (at twitter.com)
04:47 < aestetix> that is huge.
04:48 <@Bahhumbug> Only to people with nothing better to worry about.
04:48 < aestetix> Well no.
04:48 < aestetix> Up until now, the DMCA allows a service like twitter to take down an offending tweet.
04:48 < aestetix> In this case, they are talking about an entire account.
04:49 <@Bahhumbug> So what?
04:49 <@Bahhumbug> It's their platform, they can do what they want when they want.
04:49 <@Bahhumbug> Don't like it?  Don't use it.
04:49 < RangerZ1> and DMCA doesn't set a 'maximum' limit on their reaction
04:49 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: the challenge with that is that a lot of people have an expectation of twitter/etc as a public place.
04:50 < RangerZ1> even mentioning DMCA at this point is doing yourself a disservice
04:50 < RangerZ1> it isn't
04:50 <@Bahhumbug> It's not public.
04:50 <@Bahhumbug> It's not protected.
04:50 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: that's not clear.
04:50 < RangerZ1> they can go fuck themselves
04:50 <@Bahhumbug> Deal with it and move on.
04:50 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yes it is
04:50 <@Bahhumbug> Yes it IS fucking clear.
04:50 < RangerZ1> TOS
04:50 <@Bahhumbug> It's a private platform.
04:50 < RangerZ1> have a lawyer read their TOS then
04:50 < aestetix> RangerZ1: if you're going to argue strict law, then violating a "real" names policy is a felony.
04:50 < RangerZ1> just because stupid people don't understand the internet
04:51 < RangerZ1> no
04:51 < aestetix> Yes.
04:51 < aestetix> CFAA makes violating a ToS a felony.
04:51 < RangerZ1> no
04:51 < aestetix> I hasn't been invoked before, but it is a possible interpretation of the law.
04:51  * Bahhumbug decides that pissing contests with nitwits is not worth his time
04:52 < RangerZ1> CFAA makes violating a ToS a felony when used to access material you wouldn't be able to otherwise
04:53 < aestetix> I don't have the energy to get into this right now, but it's not really clear.
04:53 < RangerZ1> aestetix: if an 'interpretation' of a law hasn't been invoked, then it is NOT 'the law'
04:53 < aestetix> The CFAA is super vague, which is why there are so many problems.
04:53 < RangerZ1> thats a different issue entirely than saying something is a 'fact'
04:53 < aestetix> Uh.
04:54 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: np
04:54 < aestetix> I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this right now.
04:54 < aestetix> Also
04:54  * aestetix hugs Bahhumbug 
04:54 < RangerZ1> god help you don't get put on the 'list' for "targetted air *assassin...I mean strikes*
04:54 < RangerZ1> because ex-pats are now lawful targets
04:55 < RangerZ1> just ask neo-cons
04:55 < RangerZ1> lol
04:57 < RangerZ1> wow, finally a voice of reason https://twitter.com/righteouscoder/status/575943653849374720
04:57 < PigBot`> Title: righteouscoder on Twitter: "[(at) people who use twitter and think it is a public space] Youre wrong, they can delete any account they want @ any time for any reason" (at twitter.com)
04:57 < RangerZ1> lol
04:58 < RangerZ1> I mean, I wouldn't log into my twitter for the first time this year to say that... or anything...
05:05 <@Bahhumbug> The planet would be a better place if twitter would just start spitting back 404s.
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08:04 <@CRasH180> morning all
08:06 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:40 < dfused> http://www.dailydot.com/politics/white-house-petition-treason-iran-tom-cotton/
08:40 < PigBot`> Title: White House petition to try 47 Republican senators for treason goes viral (at www.dailydot.com)
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08:48 < aestetix> http://www.itif.org/events/crypto-wars-20-how-should-us-balance-privacy-and-national-security
08:48 < PigBot`> Title: Crypto Wars 2.0: How Should The U.S. Balance Privacy and National Security? | The Information Technology & Innovation Foundation (at www.itif.org)
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09:06 < Synx|hm_> oh happy day
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09:13 < Synx|hm_> my stomach is killing me
09:13 < Synx|hm_> could not eat yesterday
09:23 <@Evilpig> I need this dell dude to shwo up with my part
09:23 <@Evilpig> fuckin' dell dispatched a technician despite me saying "just send the part"
09:25 < Synx|hm_> ha
09:33 < aestetix> this is fun
09:33 < aestetix> today I get to play "did we have 2 hours of downtime because we got hacked? game
09:33 < aestetix> subtitled "i hate php"
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09:36 <@Evilpig> i'm playing "can I break this"
09:36 < dfused> I'll bet that you can.
09:37 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4zded9rg9upjx9/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-12%20at%209.36.01%20AM.png?dl=0
09:39 < dfused> and yet I flip out when my boxes go over a load of 2.... you are constantly beating the hell out of your boxes...
09:39 < dfused> .... phrasing...
09:40 < dfused> time to go take my exam...
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09:41 <@Evilpig> running a burn in util
10:08 <@opticron> are we doing phrashing again?
10:08 <@opticron> -h
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10:12 <@benthemeek> I see loads like that quite often (like 300) here; unixware does this _AMAZING_ thing where when a printer isnt reachable it starts respawning lp instances at an insane rate
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10:17 <@Evilpig> i'm pretty sure i'm correct on this but i'm gonna ask anyway
10:17 <@Evilpig> L3 cache is processor only, right?  there is no motherboard L3 cache
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10:29 <@opticron> Evilpig, not that I've ever heard of
10:30 <@opticron> I think I've heard of some L4 cache being off-package
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11:07 <@Evilpig> dell isn't great on their error messages sometimes.  we have a message saying there was an error on the northbridge and when you drill down to it it says l3 cache error on processor X
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12:15 <@Evilpig> may god have mercy on our souls.  our systems group is auto-upgrading firmware during our intake process
12:17 < Synx|hm_> well hopefully that will overwrite whatever the NSA TAO group put on then during shipment
12:21 <@oddball> Well, shit.  Terry Pratchett died.
12:22 < Synx|hm_> saw that
12:23 <@oddball> Evilpig: Because nothing can go wrong with firmware updates for hardware that's in production!
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12:47 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: The @wikileaks thing went predictably enough.
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13:07 <@RangerZ> https://gamestop.droptilyoushop.com/ this is interesting
13:07 < PigBot`> Title: GameStop - Powered by Drop 'Til You Shop (at gamestop.droptilyoushop.com)
13:08 <@RangerZ> its all crap iPod/iPad crap, but ehh
13:11 < dfused> your crap
13:11 < dfused> =P
13:12 < dfused> ...hrm... you're
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13:22 < dfused> goddammit I hate sharepoint
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15:17 < Synx|hm_> any fcc net neautrality doc summaries
15:17 < Synx|hm_> i dont have time to parse 400 pages right now
15:19 < RangerZ1> its all good, but it could be better
15:19 < Synx|hm_> is anything going to change in 30(whatever) days with my comcast service?
15:20 < Synx|hm_> im in an active duspute with them again over my bill
15:20 < RangerZ1> dunno
15:20 < RangerZ1> I haven't seen anything about 'caps'
15:20 < RangerZ1> but that'll probably pop up at some point soon
15:20 < Synx|hm_> ya my thinking is providers now to go caps to fuck us all over
15:20 < RangerZ1> we didn't get 'last mile unbundling' which would have allowed 3rd party ISPs to buy access to customers... which would have been great... but would have been a legal foothold for ISPs to fight the changes.... so ehh
15:21 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm_: they already have
15:21 < RangerZ1> comcast has 200GB monthly cap everywhere except nashville where it is 300
15:21 < Synx|hm_> ya i was really hoping for public copper/fiber/coax
15:21 < RangerZ1> public exists though
15:21 < Synx|hm_> of phone coper
15:22 < RangerZ1> it WILL allow public fiber network installs, etc
15:22 < RangerZ1> also it'll speed google fiber up a LOT
15:22 < Synx|hm_> oh and im really glad they overturned the TN banned municiple internet, that was a fuckign scam of a law
15:22 < RangerZ1> by years
15:22 < RangerZ1> by allowing google to hang fiber on the pole
15:22 < Synx|hm_> ahh
15:22 < RangerZ1> instead of _have_ to dig it
15:22 < Synx|hm_> sweet
15:22 < Synx|hm_> i haven't seen the fiber trucks yet :(
15:22 < RangerZ1> wont for a year +
15:23 < RangerZ1> plus google knew this ruling was possible
15:23 < RangerZ1> so they were waiting for it
15:23 < RangerZ1> before making 'real' plans
15:23 < Synx|hm_> i know but comcast is sucking my soul
15:23 < dfused> says everyone
15:24 < RangerZ1> everywhere
15:24 < RangerZ1> always
15:24 < RangerZ1> lol
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15:28 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm_: I got an offer of 99$ for internet +HD cable
15:28 < RangerZ1> but I have to sign 2 year contract
15:28 < RangerZ1> lol
15:28 < Synx|hm_> ya fuck them
15:28 < RangerZ1> they are kinda desperate at this point
15:28 < RangerZ1> and seeing that Playstation Vue will have 80+ channels
15:29 < Synx|hm_> im on a $49 for 50mbit and basic hd cable (via cablecard) but they keep trying to up my monthly even though it was for 12 months
15:29 < Synx|hm_> no contract
15:29 < Synx|hm_> or $59 it might have been
15:29 <@oddball> RangerZ1: TDS?
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15:29 < RangerZ1> including TNT/NBC/SyFY and all their children channels... if it is a reasonable price, I might just go with that
15:29 < RangerZ1> TDS?
15:30 < RangerZ1> oddball: Comcast offered me that
15:30 <@oddball> OH really?  TDS just offered me the exact same deal.
15:30 <@oddball> Oh, sorry, also home phone service.
15:30 < RangerZ1> when I moved here I got that for a year
15:30 < RangerZ1> but their offering this time didn't even include that
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15:31 < Synx|hm_> whats TDS charge for gigabit?
15:31 < RangerZ1> first born, and left testicle
15:31 < Synx|hm_> and if telcos are public utilities why cant they be my provider instead of united.net
15:31 <@oddball> Naienko and I are thinking about switching to TDS.  We can get faster service for roughly what we're paying now, and Comcast's service has been the suck lately.
15:32 < RangerZ1> oddball: just don't sign longer than a 1yr contract
15:32 < RangerZ1> because google fiber shit might roll out fast
15:32 <@oddball> I think the only thing that the 2year contract would get me is the free installation.
15:32 < RangerZ1> and they will have deals _all the time_ when that starts
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16:08 <@_NSAKEY> Synx|hm_: I think TDS charges around $100 a month for gigabit. You might want to check their website.
16:11 <@oddball> yep.  $100 for gigabit, but you have to have the TV service to get their internet, and their cheapest TV service is $50.
16:13 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, it's all about the bundling.
16:13 < Synx|hm_> what a fucking scam
16:13 <@_NSAKEY> I get their 50 Mbit plan, and my real speeds are 3-4 MB/s.
16:13 <@_NSAKEY> I hit 5 once recently. That was kind of cool.
16:13 < Synx|hm_> holy shit
16:14 <@benthemeek> Elonka: My laptop is getting lines across the screen. Started a couple days ago with horizontal white lines in the top left corner, and today a vertical green line appeared as well...
16:14 <@benthemeek> When I plug in external monitors, everything works fine externally.
16:14 <@_NSAKEY> benthemeek: Wrong channel?
16:14 <@benthemeek> any opinions?
16:14 <@benthemeek> No this was elonka asking me so I am asking you all
16:14 <@_NSAKEY> Oh, I thought you were asking her for advice.
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16:15 <@_NSAKEY> Sounds like a clear-cut case of the screen going bad. Someone who is comfortable working on laptops would probably ebay a screen assembly for that model and put it in themselves.
16:16 <@_NSAKEY> I have a friend who can probably dissemble and repair a lot of Dell laptops blindfolded, but I don't know if he does that kind of work anymore.
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16:17 <@benthemeek> Speak of the devil..
16:17 < Elonka> Great welcome, can we change the room topic?
16:17 <@benthemeek> s/devil/extreemly nice person/
16:18 -!- _NSAKEY changed the topic of #se2600 to: Geeknic :: March 20-22, 2015 http://geeknic.info | < Elonka> Great welcome, can we change the room topic?
16:18 < Elonka> Heh.
16:18 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Ah, suck.  I was thinking that I had heard good things about TDS.
16:19 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: They quote their speeds in Mb/s like everyone else, but I just converted to numbers we all actually use.
16:19 <@_NSAKEY> Because dividing by 8 is stupid.
16:19 < Elonka> Thanks.  So, any thoughts about my laptop issue?  Is this going to get really bad really fast, or should I just live with it, or order a new display assembly, or just the LCD part?
16:19 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: Is that 5mb/s out of their network or internal?  If it's internal you should start demanding blood.
16:19 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: benthemeek pasted your question, and it made me realize that I misplaced my book about this very subject.
16:19 < Elonka> I could see buying a new display assembly for $100, but if it's not the problem, that would suck.
16:20 <@oddball> benthemeek: Yeah... sounds like either a loose connection or screen going bad.
16:20 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: That 5MB/s is between me and a box in Germany.
16:20 <@benthemeek> I would vote let live for a little while to see if ti gets worse
16:20 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, that doesn't count :)
16:20 <@benthemeek> i was thinking maybe the ribbon cable but I dont know
16:20 < Elonka> Good point, I've been lugging the laptop through a bunch of airports lately.
16:21 < Elonka> If all it needs is the cable to be reseated, that would be easiest.  :)
16:21 <@_NSAKEY> benthemeek: Don't you normally order the entire assembly as a unit, including the new ribbon cable?
16:21 <@Evilpig> well holy balls, who's impersonating elonka?
16:21 < Elonka> I could get just the LCD for $50, or entire display assembly (laptop lid) for $100.
16:21 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: How comfortable are you with opening your laptop up? Most OEMs have disassemnly guides.
16:21 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig brings up a fair point.
16:22 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: How do you think she should auth herself? Twitter?
16:22 < Elonka> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UX7QIXLKWA
16:22 -!- Bahhumbug changed the topic of #se2600 to: Geeknic :: March 20-22, 2015 http://geeknic.info | < Elonka> Great welcome, can we change the room topic? | RIP Terry Pratchett
16:22 < PigBot`> Title: Dell Inspiron 15R (5520 / 7520) LCD Display Assembly Replacement Video Tutorial - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:22 <@Evilpig> for those in the know i'm not fired.
16:22 <@Bahhumbug> Yay?
16:22 <@Evilpig> and I still have yet to get that pesky lawsuit that i've been waiting for
16:23 <@benthemeek> Elonka: I just also spoke to a couple hardware guys downstairs here that repair our laptops and they said the same thing
16:23 <@Bahhumbug> Do I want to ask why that was a concern?
16:23 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: What did you to that would have put your employment status at risk?
16:23 <@Evilpig> nope
16:23 < Elonka> I could probably follow that video to disassemble/reassemble, most looks pretty straightforward, though a couple places with getting cables to re-seat might be tricky (or require hands about an order of magnitude smaller than mine).
16:23 <@Bahhumbug> Ok then.
16:23 <@oddball> Evilpig: Did Crazy Pants try to get you fired?
16:24 <@oddball> Yeah... laptops tend to have tiny little fiddly bits.
16:24 < Elonka> Sorry to hear about Pratchett.  :(
16:24 <@benthemeek> Our guy here usually winds up replacing the screen but every now and then its a cable issue.
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> I would absolutely love if crazy whatever would try to get me fired.
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> She'd have to talk to ... me ... about firing ... me.
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> That would be an epic conversation.
16:25 <@oddball> Elonka: Yeah... a know a number of folks that have shed serious tears over him passing.
16:25 < Elonka> Maybe we can take a look at my laptop after the board meeting on Sunday.
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: My wife's going to be a wreck over his death.
16:27 <@oddball> Oh, I seriously debated whether to tell Naienko about it or not.
16:27 <@oddball> Figured she be pissed if I didn't.
16:27 < Elonka> We should drink a toast to him this weekend...  Anyone else coming to the Tennessee Game Days event in Franklin? http://tngamedays.com/
16:27 < PigBot`> Title: Tennessee Game Days - Home (at tngamedays.com)
16:27 <@Bahhumbug> I would tend to think so, yes.
16:27 < Elonka> I like that bot.  :)
16:28 <@oddball> Elonka: We're trying to decide if we can swing it or not.  We're already obligated to going to MidSouthCon next weekend.
16:28 < Elonka> I've been craving a game of Outpost.
16:31 <@oddball> Don't think I've played that one.
16:31 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: As for your problem, I'm inclined to think the screen is dying since it works fine with an external monitor. Maybe you'll get lucky and it will just be a loose cable.
16:32 < Elonka> Takes a few hours, especially with new players. Resource-management space factory game.
16:32 <@oddball> cool
16:32 < Elonka> NSAKEY: Thanks.
16:33 < Elonka> I'm also craving a game of Kingsburg and Stone Age.  Plus Catan is always good, but when I'm in a room full of gamers, I like to take advantage of it and go for something a little more esoteric.  :)
16:34 < Elonka> At GDC I played "Monster Builder" and "Galactic Trucker", both were good.  The first one especially so for kids.
16:34 <@oddball> cool
16:35 < Elonka> Sorry, it was "Monster Factory".
16:35 <@oddball> Damnit... that reminds me... I need to figure out if I'm supposed to be somewhere Sunday, or if I can come to the board meeting.
16:35 < Elonka> You are more than welcome.  :)
16:36 <@oddball> I'll be honest, I'm more interested in the gaming afterwards than the official business. :p
16:36 <@oddball> Well, I'm interested in the results of some of the official business, but I'm guessing I'll have to clamp my mouth shut through some of it.
16:37 < Elonka> Heh, it's more likely you'll have to pinch yourself to stay awake.  Most of it is pretty dry stuff.
16:38 < Elonka> What we really need right now is someone who knows Quickbooks Online, to get the financial reports cleaned up.  The data's entered, but we need some serious recategorization, and I'm not sure how to do some of it.
16:38 < Elonka> If anyone here a QBO guru?
16:38 < Elonka> s/If/Is/
16:39 <@Bahhumbug> You might be better off with a general audit of the accounts by a financial auditor to ensure all your ducks are in a row moving forward and clean up whatever is needed to be cleaned in the account ledger.
16:39 <@Bahhumbug> Then it's just a matter of making your ledger match what the auditor recommends.
16:40 < Elonka> Agreed, though I'd like to get things at least into an amateur state of organization before presenting it to a professional, so we don't have to pay them for as many hours to fix our n00b mistakes.
16:40 <@oddball> Oh... I'm not sure you heard my reason for not running for a seat on the board.
16:40  * Bahhumbug nods
16:41 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: Is there a timeline on when Dru's PhreakNIC 18 report is ready for mass consumption?
16:41 < Elonka> I have an accountant friend on FB who knows QBO, I may just pay her $30/hour to give me some remedial QBO help.
16:41 <@_NSAKEY> I asked about it and the t-shirt invoice repotr at last week's meeting.
16:41 <@_NSAKEY> *report
16:41 < Elonka> NSAKEY: We've received the report, and will be reviewing it at the meeting this weekend.
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16:42 < Elonka> I thought the t-shirt stuff was resolved?  We identified the problem (it didn't get paid) and ways to avoid it in the future (group email address).  It's been paid now at this point, or were there other questions?
16:43 <@RangerZ> as far as I know, no
16:43 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: I was under the impression that there was supposed to be an actual report about it.
16:43 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: how dare you expect dru to write more than one report per 3mo time period
16:43 < Elonka> I think that was a mixup in the minutes maybe?  The main thing we wanted the report on was the Maxwell SNAFU.
16:43 <@_NSAKEY> I don't have any further questions about it, but I could have sworn one of the board meeting minutes e-mails said that there would also be a report about the t-shirt thing.
16:44 < Elonka> You're right, but I think that was just a typo in the minutes.  We should get that cleaned up.
16:44  * Elonka makes a note.
16:44 <@oddball> Yeah... I think the first board meeting's minutes said that there would be a report on it.
16:44 < Elonka> Yup, it did.
16:44 <@_NSAKEY> Fair enough. It was explained to my satisfaction already, and it wasn't that complex to begin with.
16:45 <@_NSAKEY> Regarding the Maxwell House, do you remember that copy of the proposal I handed you at the Feb meeting?
16:46  * Elonka thinks.
16:46 <@oddball> And there was the issue that the guy telling us that it was resolved last meeting was one of the guys that told us that it had been paid when Evilpig was getting pestered about it.
16:46 < Elonka> I remember papers, but I don't remember what they said.
16:46 <@Bahhumbug> Wait a minute.  This must stop right this minute.  You can not be talking about this type of thing in this channel.  He Whom Must Be Obeyed (or something) Ordered It.
16:46 <@oddball> heh
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16:47 <@Evilpig> heh
16:47 <@Evilpig> fuck!
16:47 <@_NSAKEY> Does anyone have a link to the Nashville 2600 google drive?
16:47 <@Elonka> Regarding the t-shirts, there was definite confusion about the invoice. Some thought it was paid, but in actuality it had NOT been paid.  Since then, it has been paid.
16:47 <@Bahhumbug> That being said....  it's nice to see it.
16:47  * Evilpig repeats "NEVER FART IN THE HOT AISLE"
16:47 <@RangerZ> I thought you said COLD AISLE earlier this week
16:47 <@oddball> Evilpig: I thought it was "never fart in the cold aisle."
16:47 <@RangerZ> hehe
16:47 <@Evilpig> always fart in the cold aisle
16:48 <@Evilpig> more airflow, lower temps.  not a problem
16:48 <@oddball> Elonka: Ah... ok.  So it was a "shit happens" incident and has truly been resolved.
16:48 <@Evilpig> hot aisle... just think the equator with high humidity and then someone steps on a duck
16:48 <@Bahhumbug> An already dead duck.
16:49 <@Elonka> Oddball: Add "And someone was lazy about paying the invoice", and yes.
16:49 <@Bahhumbug> Days dead.
16:49 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_9KJUhBP8CBfmNZbDFHS2RkeGlVS3daLXFwTFFPQ1BQbE5zNDNfcUpWN0U1VUtJU1VnWE0&usp=sharing&tid=0B_9KJUhBP8CBY1Jfb1hGa3hFZnM
16:49 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: iirc bit.ly/SE2600
16:49 < PigBot`> Title: Hotel Information (at drive.google.com)
16:49 <@_NSAKEY> The "PhreakNIC Proposal" PDF is the digital version of what I handed you.
16:49 <@Elonka> I have personally gone through every single check written over the last three years...  There's one other that was written but hasn't been cashed yet (to the Center for Nonprofit Management).  We still have to chase that one down, but I think everything else is resolved.
16:50 <@Bahhumbug> Why is her name on anything?
16:50 <@_NSAKEY> The only portion of the proposal that's relevant to what I want to ask is who it is addressed to.
16:50 <@_NSAKEY> The proposal is addressed to Amber, but when I asked her about it at the meeting, she freaked out.
16:50 <@_NSAKEY> She claimed that she never saw the contract or the proposal.
16:50  * Elonka is reading.
16:50 <@_NSAKEY> Given that it was addressed to her... That seems hard to believe.
16:51 <@RangerZ> she was Dru's -right hand- during the summer
16:51 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, well... I've got $5 that says her name's not "Amber", too.  She's a habitual liar.
16:51 <@Bahhumbug> And on that note I need to go beat some builds into submission.
16:51  * Bahhumbug &
16:51 <@_NSAKEY> I don't personally care about her name being on it, since NLUG was deeply involved and she's NLUG's VP. Others in the channel would disagree, of course.
16:51 <@RangerZ> Bahhumbug: no, we already know her previous name, from when she was in school
16:52 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I just think its stupid her claiming ignorance of it, thats all
16:52 <@_NSAKEY> But why would she lie about that? Is the Maxwell House fiasco a bigger mess than anyone realizes?
16:52 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: we covered that yesterday.  remember there is online crazypants and IRL crazypants.  the two are unaware of what the other is doing
16:52 <@RangerZ> her name being there just cements one of the issues we faced last year
16:52 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Making a point :)  And stop highlighting me - must work :(
16:52 <@Elonka> PN20?
16:52 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: It's probably supposed to mean PN18.
16:52 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: that's a sucker's bet that was previous discussed as well
16:52 <@_NSAKEY> But my point is that it's plainly addressed to Amber, yet she denies ever having seen it.
16:53 <@Elonka> Yeah, I saw correspondence from the hotel where they even misspelled their own name.  ;)
16:53 <@_NSAKEY> It makes me wonder just how many layers there are to the Maxwell House onion.
16:53 <@RangerZ> but they didn't just 'make up' the name 'amber'
16:53 <@Elonka> Okay, I've read it, this looks right in terms of the contract terms that were agreed to.
16:54 <@Elonka> It's very possible that Amber was part of the discussions.  It's also possible that she never saw this contract.  I don't see the two as mutually exclusive (inclusive?)
16:54 <@_NSAKEY> See, we've been told that this proposal was so old as to not be relevant.
16:54 <@_NSAKEY> In fact, I was practically told that at the last meeting.
16:54 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: stop trying to make sense of their tomfoolery
16:54 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: Her body language suggested that she didn't expect the question and lied on the spot.
16:55 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: not worth even 'caring' about her and her 'maybe' lies
16:55 <@RangerZ> just accept the fact that she'll say whatever she wants whenever she wants to
16:55 <@RangerZ> lol
16:55 <@Elonka> Remind me to cross my arms when I want to freak you out.  ;)
16:55 < dfused> hah
16:56 <@RangerZ> Elonka: you scare us all without having to do that ;)
16:56 <@_NSAKEY> It was more about her tone of voice than anything else.
16:56 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: only when you have something to hide. :p
16:56 <@Evilpig> I'm not scared.  :P
16:57 <@oddball> Helps to have over a thousand miles in the way?
16:57 <@Evilpig> oh please
16:57 <@RangerZ> nah, he's going to hide behind Chris Christie
16:57 <@_NSAKEY> 1000 miles + a place nobody in their right mind would want to visit.
16:57 <@RangerZ> big meat shield
16:57 <@Evilpig> if I was still down there half the bullshit of last year wouldn't have happened
16:57 <@Evilpig> the lies about me would have been countered immediately upon their telling
17:02 <@Evilpig> having successfully killed the channel again, i'm going the fuck home.  later.
17:02  * Elonka is reading Terry Pratchett quotes.
17:03 -!- Elonka changed the topic of #se2600 to: Geeknic :: March 20-22, 2015 http://geeknic.info | "Anyway, just because you're sworn enemies doesn't mean you can't be friends, does it?"  RIP Terry Pratchett
17:27 <@Elonka> General announcement, I'm hiring...  Especially looking for someone with either strong Javascript, or both java/ObjC skills.
17:30 <@RangerZ> sounds like someone is doing mobile games ;)
17:30 <@Elonka> Mebbe.  ;)
17:30 <@Elonka> Strong Appcelerator Titanium skills would also get attention.
17:31 <@Elonka> http://www.blackgategames.com/#!careers/c21nl
17:31 <@RangerZ> how about my own customer appcelerator that has 0 overhead?
17:31 < PigBot`> Title: blackgategames (at www.blackgategames.com)
17:31 <@RangerZ> lol
17:31 <@RangerZ> not that I'm looking for a job, lol
17:32 <@RangerZ> but one of the major parts of the infrastructure I've written includes an app generator, lol
17:42 <@Elonka> Gawd I hate Wix.
17:49 <@Elonka> Any other questions for me before I head out?  Ask Me Anything.  ;)
17:50 <@Elonka> Oh, and anyone want Trello access?  (our "to do" taskboard).  Though I always caution, if you have access, you run the risk that some tasks will be assigned to you.  ;)
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18:14 <@Dolemite> Elonka: You are an impostor.  We were told that the 'real' Elonka wouldn't ever be in this IRC channel.
18:15 <@Elonka> And was the person who told you that, real?  ;)
18:15 <@Elonka> Ah, the web of trust.  ;)
18:16 <@Elonka> BTW, Scott, do you or anyone else have copies of insurance forms from past PhreakNICs?
18:16 <@Elonka> I'm trying to fill out forms for nonprofit insurance, and the length of the forms is rather mind-boggling.  :/
18:17 <@Dolemite> Elonka: It was benthemeek, if I recall correctly
18:17 <@Dolemite> Corydon was the only one who had dealt with the insurance
18:23 <@Evilpig> that isn't scott, that's clearly dolemite
18:24  * Elonka needs a clipboard checklist to keep names straight.
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18:39 < RangerZ1> http://sourcefed.com/serial-pooper-at-large-in-akron-ohio/
18:39 < PigBot`> Title: Serial Pooper At Large In Akron, Ohio | SourceFed (at sourcefed.com)
18:39 < RangerZ1> ugh..... ohio....
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18:39 < RangerZ1> at least it isn't FL
18:40 <@Evilpig> haha.  serial pooper
18:42 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: you're just lucky it isn't NJ
18:45 < RangerZ1> http://www.firaxis.com/?/games/single/sid-meiers-starships#about-1 so it is for ipad too
18:45 < PigBot`> Title: Firaxis Games (at www.firaxis.com)
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18:54 <@_NSAKEY> http://serverfault.com/questions/293217/our-security-auditor-is-an-idiot-how-do-i-give-him-the-information-he-wants
18:54 < PigBot`> Title: pci dss - Our security auditor is an idiot. How do I give him the information he wants? - Server Fault (at serverfault.com)
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19:34 <@benthemeek> elonka: I think you told me once that you dont hang out in IRC. I am pleasantly surprised to see you here
19:43 <@_NSAKEY> benthemeek: She said that at the Feb meeting.
19:45 < aestetix> wait
19:45 < aestetix> I thought Elonka didn't use IRC
19:45 <@Elonka> I don't.  ;)
19:45 <@benthemeek> It really is her I can assure you. I was chatting with her on google+ when she came here ;)
19:45 <@Elonka> I had to ask which server this was on, heh.
19:46 <@benthemeek> I am off to a meeting. Night all
19:48 < aestetix> Elonka: sorry I missed you last week. I hope you had a good time though.
19:49 <@Elonka> Likewise....
19:49 <@Elonka> The visit to Glen Miranker's Enigma machines was amazing, sorry you missed it.
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19:53 <@Elonka> If I register my name here, will it stick?  Or time out after 30 days?
19:56 <@_NSAKEY> Elonka: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations
19:57 < PigBot`> Title: freenode: frequently-asked questions (at freenode.net)
19:58 <@Elonka> 10 weeks, hmm.
19:59 <@Elonka> Well, I'll give it a try.  Worst that happens is it times out.
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20:03 <@Evilpig> Elonka: did you ask the googles where it was? http://se2600.org/ircstats/
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20:04 <@Dolemite> Elonka: Are you coming to Gatlinburg next weekend?
20:04 <@Elonka> For gaming?  Thinking about it but not sure.  Got a lot going on with the new studio.
20:04 <@Dolemite> Gaming + Socialization + Eating
20:05 <@Dolemite> But yeah, I can certainly understand the lot going on
20:05 <@Elonka> Evilpig: How do I add a userpic?
20:05 <@Dolemite> Elonka: You email it to him
20:06 <@Dolemite> Otherwise he searches the PN photo archives for the least flattering to use
20:06 <@Elonka> Heh.
20:07 <@Elonka> Does it have to be in a certain format?  Or can I just link to a webpic like this one? http://elonka.com/media/2006-code1.jpg
20:07 <@Evilpig> just tell me to add it
20:07 <@Dolemite> He'll crop it
20:08 <@Evilpig> or I just grab one randomly and add it against your will
20:08 <@Elonka> Kind of moot, I doubt I'll ever be on the hi-score list.  ;)
20:08 <@Evilpig> i'll add it in a bit.  trying the new sid meyers game
20:08 <@Evilpig> there's a daily stats too
20:09 <@Elonka> Heh, I like the "Big numbers" section.
20:10 <@Elonka> And I guess I'll get the needle to twitch on the "gender" section, LOL!
20:16 <@Dolemite> What new Sid Meiers game?
20:16 <@Dolemite> Is it as much of a turd as Civilization: Beyond Earth?
20:19 <@Elonka> BTW, these are the nominees and winners at the GDC awards from last week:  http://www.gamechoiceawards.com/winners/index.html
20:19 < PigBot`> Title: Game Developers Choice Awards (at www.gamechoiceawards.com)
20:19 <@Elonka> Anyone with a smartphone, if you haven't played Monument Valley, go get it.  :)
20:32 <@Elonka> Okay, heading out for realz...   (wave!)
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20:35 <@Bahhumbug> Be nice to see her as a regular fixture in this channel.
20:36 < dfused> yar
20:39 <@Dagmar> Ther'es a new Sid Meiers game?
20:40 <@Dagmar> Okay.  It's called "Starships" apparently
20:52 <@Evilpig> daaaaaaaaaaaaamn  look at that car...  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-carradine-crash-revenge-nerds-780988?facebook_20150312
20:52 < PigBot`> Title: Robert Carradine Crash: Revenge of the Nerds Actor Injured in Horrific Head-On Collision - Hollywood Reporter (at www.hollywoodreporter.com)
21:15 <@Dagmar> Dayum
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21:37 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lewis-and-rob-evans/2015/mar/11/woman-suing-police-over-relationship-with-undercover-spy-finds-tracking-device-in-her-car-reports
21:37 < PigBot`> Title: Woman suing police over relationship with undercover spy finds tracking device in her car - reports | UK news | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com)
21:38 <@_NSAKEY> I actually remember the 2011 story that's referenced.
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21:54 <@RangerZ> man, i'd sue the UK gov't over that too if I were Dagmar, them trying to setup him and crazypants... thats cruel and unusual punishment
21:54 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: thats what you meant by that link, right? lol
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