--- Log opened Tue Mar 10 00:00:50 2015
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00:33 < RangerZ1> so who is buying their new 10k iWatch? lol
00:56 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGdZUR9LzdY ouch...
00:56 < PigBot`> Title: Suge Knight Runs Two People Over With His Truck (VERY Graphic Footage) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:56  * oddball pours himself teh QC sample of apple pie.
01:02 < RangerZ1> "QC"
01:02 < RangerZ1> "QC"
01:02 < RangerZ1> because that needs stated like that twice... lol
01:04 <@oddball> This batch is destined for a room party at MidSouthCon.  I must make sure that it's not poison.
01:05 <@oddball> I also need to remember not to drink the entire pint glass in 10 minutes. :p
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01:07 < RangerZ1> why?
01:07 < RangerZ1> go ahead and do that
01:07 < RangerZ1> and let me know how it goes
01:07 < RangerZ1> lol
01:07 <@oddball> It makes it difficult to get out of the chair.
01:07 <@oddball> I've done it before.
01:12 < RangerZ1> lol
01:23 < RangerZ1> http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/iran-foreign-minister-gives-gop-senators
01:24 < PigBot`> Title: Iran Foreign Minister Gives GOP Senators A Dose Of Reality Medicine | Crooks and Liars (at crooksandliars.com)
01:24 < RangerZ1> hahahaha
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01:58 <@SuMo_D> I am Spartan!
01:58 < dfused> I AM DFUSED!
01:59 <@SuMo_D> I moved to Spartanburg tonight
01:59 < dfused> grats?
02:02 <@SuMo_D> I hope so...
02:03 < dfused> well then, I wish you the best then
02:03 <@SuMo_D> but yeah, since I had cancer its been about 5 years since I lived on my own
02:03 <@SuMo_D> but we got a big grant to start our hackerspace here
02:03 <@SuMo_D> so....
02:03 <@SuMo_D> seemed like the time
02:03 < dfused> oh cool
02:03 <@SuMo_D> plus the hour commute was getting old
02:04 < dfused> to hell with wasting life hours driving for no good reason
02:05 <@SuMo_D> yeah, plus need to know the community I'm in if I'm going to figure out ways for us to engage it well
02:05 < dfused> ... sasy the guy currently re-watching archer season 5 instead of studying for his exam on TH
02:05 <@SuMo_D> :)
02:05 <@SuMo_D> it happens
02:05 <@SuMo_D> and archer is life enriching at times
02:05 < dfused> lol indeed
02:05 < dfused> so many good lines
02:08 < dfused> oh derp. I got a conf call in the mornign.  forgot aout it... guess I need to go pass out.  ...anywhichs.. congrats on teh new pad
02:11 <@SuMo_D> thx and night!
02:15 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2jgfhw/tifu_by_using_a_toilet_wrong_my_entire_life/
02:15 < PigBot`> Title: TIFU by using a toilet wrong my entire life. : tifu (at www.reddit.com)
02:18  * SuMo_D hugs aestetix
02:34 < aestetix> lol
02:39 < aestetix> you should give Bahhumbug a hug too
02:39 < aestetix> so he doesn't feel lonely and un-noticed
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07:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:59 < Synx|hm> somebody tell me a light weight android emulator for win32/64
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10:00 < Synx|hm> need to emulate single apps, like RSA soft token
10:07 <@Evilpig> there really isn't one
10:07 < Synx|hm> you used bluestacks?
10:07 <@Evilpig> tried it.  it worked for some stuff, not for others
10:07 < Synx|hm> i guess there is likely a RSA windows client too
10:08 < Synx|hm> i have so many soft token clients its driving me insane
10:08 <@Evilpig> i'm currently using genymotion on the mac to play witha  few things
10:09 <@Evilpig> i use duopush on my phone for all my two factor stuff now.
10:09 <@Evilpig> it integrates with their own service as well as google, etc
10:09 < Synx|hm> oh? ill have to look into that
10:09 < Synx|hm> neat
10:09 <@Evilpig> it might just be called duomobile or duosecurity.  definitely duo something
10:10 < Synx|hm> problem is i already have a soft rsa token on my phone for my internal company VPN, so i dont want to kill it with this new one
10:10 <@Evilpig> see if it will work with this other
10:10 <@Bahhumbug> +1000 duosecurity
10:10 <@Evilpig> at least cut your apps down
10:10 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ug03wyayk1rva2/2015-03-10%2014.10.09.png?dl=0
10:11 < Synx|hm> cool
10:11 <@Evilpig> when I add new shit to my phone I use the same code on my tablet immediately so the two are in theory synced
10:13 < Synx|hm> im a bit confused looking at this site, is this a new two-factor API service, or can this import existing external soft keys like RSA secureid?
10:13 <@Evilpig> both
10:13 < Synx|hm> k
10:13 < Synx|hm> i swear by my yubikey btw
10:13 < Synx|hm> ;)
10:14 <@Evilpig> they want to sell you their service but their client is nice and integrates with all kinds of shit
10:17 < Synx|hm> ahh
10:19 < Synx|hm> oh i put omnirom on my note ii last week, its like a new phone all over again
10:19 < Synx|hm> thank god because i thought i was going to have to buy something else
10:20 < Synx|hm> and now that i say that its crashing
10:21 <@Evilpig> you caused that crash by mentioning it
10:21 < Synx|hm> ya and i should also mention it feels as new as a phone can on sprints backbone
10:22 < Synx|hm> everything is responsive except for all the things that make it a useable phone/data device
10:31 < Synx|hm> why my plex no workie
10:38 <@_NSAKEY> Synx|hm: Do you like your yubikey? I was reading about those the other night, but didn't like the fact that they don't support larger RSA keys.
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10:48 < Synx|hm> _NSAKEY: i love em, have 3 one is NFC
10:48 < Synx|hm> _NSAKEY: i use them for static key, yubi-2factor api with lastpass, and GPG key storage
10:49 < Synx|hm> oh plex no workie because chrome no workie
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12:10 < aestetix> http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Calvin-Hobbes-Exhibition-Catalogue/dp/1449460364
12:16 <@CRasH180> Love Calvin and Hobbes. Bill Waterson is awesome
12:27 < aestetix> lol
12:28 < aestetix> https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2015/03/Brugh
12:28 < PigBot`> Title: [Today] Distributed and Digital Disaster Response | Berkman Center (at cyber.law.harvard.edu)
12:28 < aestetix> watching this talk
12:28 < aestetix> she said "shit" and said "excuse my language"
12:28 < aestetix> she should watch the talk I did where every other word was "fuck"
12:29 <@Bahhumbug> AKA: "This is how NOT to talk to a group of people at a prestigious university"
12:30 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: did you watch the talk I did?
12:30 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Seeing as how aestetix was probably raised by wolves, you shouldn't expect him to know any better.
12:32 <@oddball> aestetix: That's one advantage of speaking at PN?  No need to watch your language?
12:32 < aestetix> well I didn't say anything about butt play
12:34 <@Bahhumbug> Wolves would have eaten him as a pup.
12:34 <@Bahhumbug> Similar to human practices of drowning infirm and unwanted spawn in the nearest creek.
12:36 <@CRasH180> arf!
12:38 < aestetix> oddball: well I asked before I did the talk if there was anything i couldn't do
12:38 < aestetix> and they explicitly gave me permission to cuss
12:42 < aestetix> of course that might have been like the network allowing south park to say "shit" and then them keeping a counter of how many times they say it :p
12:44 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: sometimes they have medical professionals give talks about new practices in the field. If you tune in you could probably ask how to get the stick removed from your ass.
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12:53 <@Bahhumbug> If I'm ever in close proximity to you I will happily remove that stick from my ass and beat you to death with it, aestetix.
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13:27 <@CRasH180> That would be one nasty stick
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13:40 <@Bahhumbug> Consider the target.  Seems about right.
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14:17 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzmWdu83tU HAHA apparently its illegal to negotiate with foreign nations like the GOP senators did
14:17 < PigBot`> Title: 47 Republican Senators May Have Broken the Law By Sending a Shockingly Stupid Letter to Iran - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:18 < dfused> nothign at all will happen.
14:19 <@oddball> pfft.  Senators don't go to jail.  Laws are for us little people.
14:19 < dfused> yup
14:19 < RangerZ1> sadly, but yeah
14:20 <@oddball> By the way, anyone want a color laser printer?  I've got one that I need to get rid of.  Works just fine, I just replaced it with an inkjet all-in-one that's faster and has a scanner.
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14:27 <@CRasH180> oddball: What model is it?
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14:28 <@oddball> 2605dn
14:28 <@oddball> Good printer, just fucking heavy and slow.
14:28 <@CRasH180> Ah, that is a nice one
14:29 <@CRasH180> Yeah, I know. I had to move a whole lot of those printers around when doing a floor plan redesign when working for a real estate office.
14:29 <@CRasH180> Heavy, but good printers. Have an all-in-one ink jet, but who the hell wants to pay for that ink jet refill expense
14:30 <@Evilpig> that's been my complaint.  I print a few times a year at most, generally
14:30 <@Evilpig> it's rare enough that I would be buying new non-dried up ink everytime I went to print
14:31 <@Bahhumbug> I still have to print from time to time as some clients demand paper invoices :/
14:31 <@CRasH180> We print a good deal at our house. Finding tons of stuff online for my Son
14:31 <@Bahhumbug> If it wasn't for invoices I would have taken my printers outside and used them for target practice.  With explosives.
14:32 <@CRasH180> damn, a toner set is $300 for this beast
14:32 <@Evilpig> I think that's about what mine runs for toner.
14:32 <@Evilpig> In the past I only ever ran it out printing phreaknic shit
14:33 <@CRasH180> I have a Samsung b/w laser printer and use it about once or twice a week
14:34 <@Bahhumbug> I've managed to reduce all printing here to invoices and coupons / rebate forms / etc.  Other than that, nadda.
14:34  * Bahhumbug absolutely despises printers, print queues, queue management, etc.
14:34 <@Evilpig> mine is occasionaly tickets for concerts if they don't do mobile tickets
14:34 <@oddball> CRasH180: Eh, inkjets aren't actually bad these days... if you get a higher end printer.
14:34 <@Bahhumbug> They've been the bane of my existance since the early 80s.
14:35 < RangerZ1> CRasH180: I have a color one, and used it about once ever 2 weeks or so, and the -starter- toner set has lasted me almost 1.5 years for black and almost 4 years for color (I don't print much color)
14:35 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic  <-- printer there
14:35 <@CRasH180> Ah, much better than I remember.
14:35 <@oddball> Yeah... the toner set for this HP laserjet is expensive up front, but it lasts for fucking ever.
14:36 < RangerZ1> but I mainly printed off homework assignments or journal papers from it, so mostly just text
14:37 <@oddball> CRasH180: Oh yeah... inkjets used to be horrible on a cost per page basis, and still are if you're using one of those $50 home end Canons... but if you spend $300-$400 and up on one, you're seeing the same price per page as a similarly priced laser.
14:38 <@CRasH180> ahh, that is the rub. Pay more now or later essentially
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14:40 <@oddball> right
14:40 < RangerZ1> the thing with laser printers is that they release really fine particulate matter when printing, so best to it near a window/etc
14:40 <@oddball> you mean you don't like breathing in plastic?
14:41 <@CRasH180> I saw several videos where people hooked up there ink jet printers to big tanks of ink and hooked to the printer via tubes.
14:41 <@CRasH180> To save money on ink jet prices
14:41 < RangerZ1> that used to work ,before they made the printer heads crappy-by-design
14:42 < RangerZ1> to cut down on 'refilling' , and other stuff like that
14:42 <@CRasH180> ahh
14:42 < RangerZ1> b/c the print head is -in- the ink cartridge on those
14:43 <@oddball> Yeah... that's also not the case in higher end inkjets.
14:44 < RangerZ1> but if you buy an inkjet, its generally not a 'higher end' one ;)
14:45 < RangerZ1> only the crazies in this room would buy a 3D printer, and then equip it with ink
14:45 < RangerZ1> lol
14:47 <@CRasH180> heh
14:47 <@CRasH180> true
14:49 < RangerZ1> which... apparently would be a step up for nintendo, some of their amiibo figures are -hand panted-
14:49 < RangerZ1> I'm not sure which ones
14:50 < RangerZ1> but still... thats one hell of a bottleneck
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14:52 < RangerZ1> but thats what you get... when you design character models for 'cool looking poses' for Super Smash Bros... but not for real figures, lol
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14:57 <@oddball> Maybe that's the explanation for those couple extremely limit run figures in the first series.
14:59 < RangerZ1> nope
14:59 < RangerZ1> nintendo didn't expect them to be popular
14:59 < RangerZ1> plus they had shipping issues due to the strikes and issues on the west coast
15:00 < RangerZ1> games can be flown , but New 3DS and amiibo are too bulky/heavy (3ds) to be flown, so they have to arrive on ship
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15:02 < RangerZ1> god... amazon.fr is like a gold mine for leaks... they leaked Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD Remaster on PC
15:02 <@oddball> RangerZ1: I remember reading that there were a couple of the set that were extremely rare compared to the others.
15:03 < RangerZ1> oddball: there are, like Marth, but a lot of that is because of stupidity on nintendo's decision making side... more than anything else
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15:03 < RangerZ1> making shulk a Gamestop exclusive character, making rosolina target exclusive, etc
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15:05 <@oddball> Didn't know about the exculsives.  I hate those.
15:06 < RangerZ1> yeah, I've started listening to IGN's Nintendo podcast
15:06 < RangerZ1> and they talk alot about it
15:09 < RangerZ1> but apparently the figures are 'too big' for japan, b/c they are used to collecting much smaller gatchapon sized figures
15:09 < RangerZ1> so they aren't rare at all there, and is why they are thinking of making them 'cards'
15:09 < RangerZ1> b/c when you're nintendo... EVERYTHING goes back to cards, lol
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15:24 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMi6nt6bsQQ hehe
15:24 < PigBot`> Title: Dark Leviathan: The Failure of Silk Road’s Libertarian Utopia (w/ Henry Farrell) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:26 < RangerZ1> hiring a hitman kinda hurts that "don't mess with others" motif , lol
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15:37 < aestetix> and hillary just dug herself a hole
15:37 < RangerZ1> HRC?
15:37 < RangerZ1> what now?
15:37 < RangerZ1> the emails again
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15:52 < aestetix> http://www.c-span.org/video/?324777-1/hillary-clinton-news-conference
15:52 < PigBot`> Title: Hillary Clinton News Conference | Video | C-SPAN.org (at www.c-span.org)
16:04 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Damn shame that everyone will have forgotten in a week or two.
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16:16 < aestetix> I just watched.
16:16 < aestetix> I'm pretty sure that "leak" was engineered.
16:25 < RangerZ1> oddball: the thing is, what she did wasn't illegal
16:25 < RangerZ1> just 'wtf'-y as all hell
16:25 < RangerZ1> not until -this- fall, was it required to keep them on gov't computers
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps the republicunts could focus on something that matters?
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> Like a jobs bill, perhaps?
16:27 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, wait.  Sorry.  My bad.  They need to try to repeal the healthcare act.  Again.  For the 70th time.
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16:41 < aestetix> right
16:41 < aestetix> I'm guessing Hillary had someone leak this to get it out of the way.
16:47 < Synx|hm> where the fuck did the day go
16:52 <@Dickie> I had it, apparently
16:52  * Dickie stares at the clock
16:53 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Something has to be illegal from me to be outraged about it?
16:53 <@oddball> I'll remember that and fart on your sandwich after the next 2600 meeting.  That's not illegal.
17:16 < RangerZ1> oddball: that would be use of mustard gas, which is outlawed via international treaty
17:16 < RangerZ1> so that -would- be illegal
17:16 < RangerZ1> lol
17:16 <@oddball> heh
17:17 < RangerZ1> no, i'm more outraged that the law wasn't that until 2014
17:17 < RangerZ1> b/c the senate had email in the ... oh 90s...
17:19 < RangerZ1> hell SMTP is older than _I_ am
17:19 < RangerZ1> lol
17:22 <@oddball> Yeah... there is that.
17:24 <@Bahhumbug> The majority of Senators were not using email as a method of corresponding with their constituents in the 90s.  Hell, there are some that don't even use it _today_.
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17:26 < RangerZ1> so Descent is getting a remake, and its from a bunch of the devs from Star Citizen
17:26 < RangerZ1> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/descendentstudios/descent-underground
17:26 < PigBot`> Title: Descent: Underground by Descendent Studios Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
17:29 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Engineering leaks is what the Obama administration does whenever it wants to make itself look better somehow.
17:30 <@_NSAKEY> Just look at the Stuxnet attribution if you want an example.
17:33 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: Yep... apparently including at least one that's on the Senate's technology commitee.
17:36 <@Bahhumbug> Depressing, isn't it?
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17:42 < aestetix> hmm
17:42 < aestetix> http://www.cjr.org/analysis/hillary_clinton_press_relationship.php
17:42 < PigBot`> Title: How Hillary Clinton made journalists' lives difficult today - Columbia Journalism Review (at www.cjr.org)
17:45 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Are you surprised?
17:46 < dfused> 6.6 earthquake in columbia
17:46 < aestetix> Not at all.
17:46 < aestetix> Also, this gives them a reason for her to be in the news cycle.
17:48 <@_NSAKEY> I wrote her off back in 2008, with no chance of redeeming herself.
17:48 <@_NSAKEY> Same with Obama and McCain.
17:54 < aestetix> wow
17:54 < aestetix> http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/hillary-clinton-a-pay-phone-candidate-in-an-iphone-world-20150310
17:54 < PigBot`> Title: Hillary Clinton: A Pay Phone Candidate in an iPhone World - NationalJournal.com (at www.nationaljournal.com)
17:54 < aestetix> What a headline.
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> Hard to have pictures and other shit stolen from a pay phone.
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> Just sayin'
17:58 < aestetix> Well, this is a very interesting situation.
17:58 < aestetix> There are two copies of every email you send.
17:59 < aestetix> The copy in your sent-box, and the copy in the recipient's inbox.
17:59 < aestetix> So even if she deleted all her emails, they can get them from everyone she emailed to.
18:01 <@Bahhumbug> Yes.  Because it's a sure thing that all those people kept her messages.
18:01 < aestetix> I imagine they did if they were using government email accounts.
18:01 < aestetix> And if they didn't, that raises questions about them too.
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19:17 < aestetix> lol
19:17 < aestetix> http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/ClintonEmail.pdf
19:25 <@_NSAKEY> Wow, she really loves hammering home the fact that e-mailing .govs meant that her e-mails were captured for public records purposes...
19:25 <@_NSAKEY> ... Nevermind the fact that she created an unholy clusterfuck for anyone attempting to FOIA her e-mails.
19:28 < aestetix> I also love the fact that she printed out her emails and physically mailed them to the state department
19:28 < aestetix> Which means they will have to manually scan in all that paper. It's a brilliant delay tactic.
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19:39 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: The only way we're going to know for sure is if another Snowden abuses NSA access to drop her spools, or if someone who hacked the mailserver box does the same.
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20:49 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: isn't that the key to making sure you never get hit with FOIA and the like?  put all your shit out in public but not in a single spot for anyone to demand access to
20:56 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: A specially crafted FOIA could net it all, at least from the State Department.
20:56 <@_NSAKEY> Still, she pulled a real dick move by giving her e-mails over as paper, as aestetix pointed out.
20:57 <@Evilpig> easter egg hunt, motherfucker...
20:57 <@Evilpig> that's not a dick move, that's fuckin' hilarious
20:57 <@_NSAKEY> There's exactly 0 reasons for that except to be as evil as humanly possible.
20:58 <@Evilpig> document fed scanner, a dash of OCR... good as new
20:58 <@_NSAKEY> That's not the point.
20:58 <@_NSAKEY> That also takes time, and OCR isn't perfect.
20:58 <@Evilpig> the point was to kill trees, right?
20:58 <@Evilpig> ...and make every tech person in the world LOL at once.
20:59 <@_NSAKEY> ... And make everyone who has ever done FOIA hope she gets struck down by a hunk of solid waste from a plane passing overhead.
20:59 <@_NSAKEY> s/FOIA/FOIA requests
21:00 <@Evilpig> what are they hoping to get out of her email?
21:01 <@_NSAKEY> Some of the Republicans are hoping for a smoking gun related to Benghazi.
21:01 <@_NSAKEY> But obviously, if she controlled her mail spools, that isn't going to happen.
21:01 <@Dagmar> Actually, I suspect their complaints have two bases
21:02 <@Dagmar> 1. By complaining her emails aren't available, they hope to imply she's hiding something (and are counting on no one following up or even attempting to see it through).  They want a "guilty" verdict in tne court of public opinion.
21:02 <@Evilpig> I'll agree to that point
21:02 <@Dagmar> 2. They're pissed as hell that during the press conference about her email, she instead chose to fire back at them over their deplorable conduct with Iran.
21:02 <@_NSAKEY> One thing is for sure though: She will never get to utter the word "transparency" at any campaign function without being pilloried by the press.
21:03 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Did you laugh as hard as I did about the Republicans breaking the law regarding Iran?
21:03 <@Evilpig> sure she will,  assuming she turned everything over.  they won't be able to prove she didn't either though.
21:03 <@Dagmar> So of course they're going to do their level best to distract anyone from talking about how they engaged in some illegal, unethical, and most importantly _legally actionable_ behaviour
21:03 <@Dagmar> For my part, I intend to use that event to highlight the fact that there are multiple sets of laws in this country
21:03 <@Dagmar> ...and elected politicians are effectively beholden to _none_ of them.
21:04 <@Evilpig> case of "do as I say, not as I do" ?
21:04 <@Dagmar> I'll bet $10 right now that precisely no republicans will be jailed because of that
21:04 <@Evilpig> they make the laws for others to follow
21:04 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
21:04 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: I'd side with you on that bet.
21:04 <@Evilpig> that's a pretty safe bet
21:05 <@_NSAKEY> I've sided with you on seemingly less safe wagers in the past.
21:06 <@Evilpig> why the hell did I grab a napkin to gobble up a girl scout cookie?
21:06 <@Dagmar> Maybe you're still hoping they won't be bite-sized
21:06 <@Evilpig> that's a better answer than I could come up with
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22:39 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vU incase anyone is curious
22:39 < PigBot`> Title: Marvels Daredevil - Official Trailer - Netflix [HD] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:39 < RangerZ1> comes to netflix april 10th
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23:39 < RangerZ> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10103238501618824&set=a.665159937224.2287816.23300984&type=1&theater people will enjoy this
23:39 < PigBot`> Title: Timeline Photos (at www.facebook.com)
23:39 < RangerZ> apple's new mobile workstation, including the ports and wires that apple.com doesn't include
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23:57 < RangerZ> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6bff9b5b67/office-space-w-michael-bolton lol
23:57 < PigBot`> Title: Office Space with Michael Bolton from Funny Or Die, Ben S... (at www.funnyordie.com)
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