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--- Day changed Sat Mar 07 2015
00:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but I won't go 'round laughing at stupid people in public.  It's considered rude.
00:00 <@Dagmar> Also, I am not sure I could make it from 5th to 2nd on Broadway without passing out
00:01 <@oddball> You ended up downtown?
00:01 <@Dagmar> Dude, I have 828 keys in my Ingress keyring for a reason
00:02 <@Dagmar> I go iteratively walking around downtown 2-4 times a month when it's earth-normal outside
00:02 <@_NSAKEY> Did you guys see this? https://people.torproject.org/~ioerror/skunkworks/forensics/valencia-tracking-device/
00:02 <@Dagmar> Some nights, when the weather has been dry enough, and it's warm enough, and you can stand at 4th and Broadway and all you can smell is beer and rednecks.
00:03 <@Dagmar> LOL
00:03 <@_NSAKEY> So true. The last time I was there on foot, there was an overpowering stench of beer and people.
00:03 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I would not be a bit surprised to find out it belongs to the NSA
00:04 <@oddball> I figured that tonight was not one of those nights, since you were heading down to Centenial
00:04 <@Dagmar> yeah it's a bit too damn cold for Downtown, but it would have been warmer than CP.
00:04 <@_NSAKEY> If I ever find something like that on my car, I'm taking it off and taping it to a greyhound bus.
00:05 <@_NSAKEY> Well, I guess since it's magnetic, no tape needed.
00:05 <@Dagmar> The _seven_ people who are basically the reason it stays an 8 farm most of the time were who showed up, so we finished redploying on just about everything
00:05 <@Dagmar> Throw it on a trucker's truck with a label that says "PASS IT ON"
00:06 <@_NSAKEY> Either could work.
00:06 <@Dagmar> oddball: I think I set a speed record on a glyph hack worth teasing the smurfs with
00:07 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I wonder if the cellphone company would be willing to divuldge the name of the account the SIM is registered to.
00:07 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: Probably not.
00:08 <@_NSAKEY> There's probably some note in the customer db that says "LAW ENFORCEMENT USE - DO NOT DIVULGE INFO."
00:09 <@Dagmar> I do not think "regular cops" typically have access to that kind of equipment
00:09 <@_NSAKEY> Federal level cops might.
00:09 <@Dagmar> It basically looks like it was _made_ by someone who knew what they were doing
00:09 <@_NSAKEY> More local outfits get stuff on loan or via grants.
00:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah, which means it's proably some operatives special toy
00:10 <@_NSAKEY> Another fun way to deal with it would be to put it on the vehicle of someone who would shoot at them for coming on their property.
00:11 <@_NSAKEY> Or, a politician's car.
00:12 <@_NSAKEY> That would probably be the funniest, actually.
00:13 <@oddball> Well, I'm supposed to be at a TKD testing that starts at 9am, so I'm going to hit the sack.
00:13 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking... _not after posting to the internet about it tho'_
00:14 <@Dagmar> This right here https://people.torproject.org/~ioerror/skunkworks/forensics/valencia-tracking-device/IMG_6382.JPG
00:15 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, it's definitely an interesting device. I'd love to know more about it.
00:16 <@Dagmar> Look closely at the chips
00:16 <@Dagmar> if this were a typical LEO device, they would not have a reason to epoxy over the identifiers on all those
00:16 <@_NSAKEY> I was about to say, looks like more epoxy.
00:17 <@_NSAKEY> They could always give the device to someone like that Dr. Decapitator guy.
00:17 <@_NSAKEY> He got paid to do some work with decapping chips from SNES carts a few years back, which lead to those chips finally being emulated correctly.
00:18 <@Dagmar> This thing says to me that whoever made it is determined to never have it traced back to them
00:18 <@_NSAKEY> Well, decapping and scanning.
00:18 <@_NSAKEY> Makes you wonder which intelligence agency was involved.
00:18 <@Dagmar> Precisely.
00:18 <@_NSAKEY> I agree that it probably isn't LEO.
00:18 <@_NSAKEY> They're not that paranoid.
00:19 <@Dagmar> You can buy stuff like that from Sparkfun now, but all those vendors stick their names on the board somewhere
00:20 <@Dagmar> The whole thing looks like it was made by hand except for the board, obviously
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00:22 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: You gotta see this https://people.torproject.org/~ioerror/skunkworks/forensics/valencia-tracking-device/
00:24 <@Dagmar> I would be *very* interested in seeing dumps from that
00:25 <@Dagmar> It looks like they _had_ a JTAG connector on it but fried it somehow
00:25 <@Dagmar> No nevermind that's not what that bit is
00:29 <@Dagmar> It's china.
00:30 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, someone trying to make it look like China
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01:56 <@RangerZ> http://higherperspective.com/2015/02/another-earth.html
01:56 < PigBot`> Title: Higher Perspective | Connect – Reveal – Transcend! Scientists Have Discovered Another Earth With Probable Life! - Higher PerspectiveHigher Perspective (at higherperspective.com)
01:57 <@RangerZ> not an onion article http://www.nasa.gov/ames/kepler/nasas-kepler-discovers-first-earth-size-planet-in-the-habitable-zone-of-another-star/
01:58 <@RangerZ> and.....
01:58 <@RangerZ> wow...
01:58 <@RangerZ> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/06/eric-holder-ferguson-police_n_6819898.html
01:58 < PigBot`> Title: Eric Holder Prepared To Dismantle Ferguson Police Department If 'Necessary' (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
01:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Eric Holder Prepared To Dismantle Ferguson Police Department If 'Necessary' (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
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02:39 <@SuMo_D> imma drunky durm drum blah yeah
02:39 <@SuMo_D> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCTies9khqo
02:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fear Factory Self Bias Resistor - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:39 < PigBot`> Title: Fear Factory Self Bias Resistor - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:40 <@SuMo_D> still amazinnnnn
02:40 <@SuMo_D> where are you virtual pals your not entertaining when you're awayZ!!!!!!!
03:03 < aestetix> https://i.imgur.com/7UaSawh.jpg
03:16 <@klixa> im sleeping on a stack of drywall in a house that is in the process of being remodeled...
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07:38 <@Shadow404> has anyone seen hot tub time machine 2?
08:20 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: yes
08:24 <@Shadow404> worth seeing?
08:24 <@Shadow404> i like the first one
08:29 <@Evilpig> i laughed my ass off
08:43 <@Shadow404> i might watch that after kingsmen then
08:43 <@Shadow404> i got a few free tickets
08:46 <@Evilpig> kingsmen was meh
08:50 < aestetix> something tells me ordering a copy of Mein Kempf via amazon and having it shipped to Berlin is not a good idea
09:20 <@Bahhumbug> Seems about par for something you'd do.
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12:35 <@Evilpig> fantastic... peons going to my counterpart for technical answers now.  at least she's continuing to give the wrong answers
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12:45 <@sasquatc4> anyone got recommendations for home routers these days, had this asus n66u for about a year now and now its getting flaky as hell, like once a day it just completely shuts down all wifi
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12:55 < dfused> I'm running a Linksys E3500 and it locks up every once ni awhile... but has been rather good other than that
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12:56 < dfused> "once in awhile" meaning ..I've had it around a year and its locked like 3-4 times
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13:00 <@sasquatc4> ahh, well thats not bad
13:01 <@Bahhumbug> Wow.  Those minutes read like they were written by a 12 year old.
13:01 <@Bahhumbug> Really folks.  Grammer?  It's NOT that difficult to get right when you engage your brain for a moment.
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13:01 <@sasquatc4> or grammar? ;)
13:02 <@Bahhumbug> FML
13:02 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, that :/
13:02 <@sasquatc4> hehe
13:02 < dfused> lol
13:02  * Bahhumbug goes to sit in the corner for a while
13:07 <@sasquatc4> hmm, was hopin to find a good AC router, but i cant find any damn reviews on reliability anywhere, thats really the only thing i care about
13:07 <@sasquatc4> i seem to go through routers like one every 1.5-2years and its getting aggravating, unless thats just how they are now
13:08 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: http://www.wagehourinsights.com/dunce%20cap%20iStock_000017020708XSmall.jpg
13:08 < dfused> yeah... everything is planned obselescence<sp>
13:09 < dfused> even business class stuff burns out faster than it used to
13:09 <@_NSAKEY> dfused: So true.
13:10 <@sasquatc4> the only other thing im hoping to find is a built in dyndns provider, since dyndns is now pay to play, the asus was nice since they have their own service and apparently netgear does too
13:10 <@sasquatc4> tryin to find out if the fancy linksys one does
13:10 <@_NSAKEY> I've got a WRT54G that is too slow to be useful these days, but it still works. I bought it in 2003 or so.
13:10 <@_NSAKEY> By contrast, I have some newer linksys router I bought in 2010. It has 2/4 dead ports now.
13:10 <@Bahhumbug> I've got a box of 'em.  Need 'em as replacements for cheap-ass clients.
13:11 <@_NSAKEY> I still have both, but don't use either. TDS mandates that all comrades must use their supplied router if you have their TV service.
13:11 <@Bahhumbug> I have a l2/l3 router (Foundry FWS648G) here, 48 ports of gigE goodness.  Overkill for most people, however, but it's a helluva nice toy.
13:12 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: I had a cisco catalyst 4000-series switch with 240 ports until a few months ago.
13:12  * Bahhumbug nods
13:12 <@_NSAKEY> Never used the damn thing, since it was super loud and I didn't have an uplink module anyway.
13:12 <@Bahhumbug> That's even more overkill.
13:13 <@_NSAKEY> I gave it to a friend, who recycled it.
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Recycled?  As in, scrap recycle?
13:13 <@_NSAKEY> I, in turn, had gotten it for free from a guy who got it as part of an upgrade job at some financial institution.
13:13 <@_NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Yeah, I guess.
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> That's... such a fucking waste...
13:13 <@_NSAKEY> He said that it worked, but he just didn't feel like fucking with it and putting it on ebay.
13:14 <@_NSAKEY> Plus, he said there were unpatched vulns.
13:14 <@_NSAKEY> Personally, I just wanted the damn thing out of my floor.
13:15  * Bahhumbug nods
13:52 <@sasquatc4> uggh, yay taxes filed, at least it dropped from owing 8-900 down to 600, i guess thanks for having a shitty health insurance....
13:53 <@Evilpig> I owe the fed $175 and getting back 700 from jersey
13:55 <@sasquatc4> well its good and bad, last year i got a couple hundred, but this year my stock options doubled what they were worth from last year, so thats why i got hit, so ill take the tax hit for getting that much more back
13:55 < dfused> thats only cause jersey has to bribe you to stay
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14:41 <@sasquatc4> yarggh, thought i finally found which router, only to see that on the EA linksys line for some stupid ass reason they limit dyndns to the 2 providers that charge, unlike the wrt series which also allows no-ip
14:41 <@sasquatc4> son of a bitch
14:43 <@Bahhumbug> Or you could replace the firmward with dd-wrt or similar.
14:43 < RangerZ1> sasquatc4: mmy netgear isn't bad
14:43 < RangerZ1> my* even
14:43 <@sasquatc4> yea i had been lookin at the R7000
14:43 < RangerZ1> I have the wndr3700
14:44 <@sasquatc4> initially i was ready to go with the wrt that was the latest, but its basically been deprecated by one of their 'smart' line, which has a stupid ass interface
14:44 < RangerZ1> it does what I need and has dyndns and no-ip
14:44 < RangerZ1> from stock firmware
14:45 <@sasquatc4> well i was lookin at goin for an AC router since my dongle supports, figured if im replacin a router may as well go all out, and i saw the netgears have no-ip but also have their own server with mynetgear.com ip
14:46 < RangerZ1> lets be real here
14:46 < RangerZ1> your dongle is lucky to get b
14:46 < RangerZ1> ;)
14:47 < dfused> giggity
14:47 <@sasquatc4> nah, i got 105mbit comcast now and i get 125 regularly on it with speed tests
14:47 <@sasquatc4> and with steam downloads
14:48 < RangerZ1> just buy some 100ft cat5 from monoprice
14:48 < RangerZ1> and run it out one window across your balcony and in your balcony door
14:49 <@sasquatc4> heh, yea ive thought about it, i do already run 100ft runs to send hdmi from upstairs to downstairs
14:49 < RangerZ1> and then into your living room
14:49 < RangerZ1> ....not that i'd know anything about that.... or anything....
14:49 < RangerZ1> lol
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15:33 < RangerZ1> HDMI is going to lose hard here soon if they don't get their shit in gear
15:33 < RangerZ1> USB is going to have 100w power, and DisplayPort 1.2a and 1.3 are already MUCH better video standards
15:37 <@Dagmar> wat
15:37 < dfused> no, watt
15:37 < dfused> 100 of them
15:37 <@Dagmar> No, I don't think USb is going to be carrying 20A anytime soon
15:38 <@Dagmar> Somethign tells me people won't like it when they plug a hair dryer into their USB port and their _lights go out_
15:38 < RangerZ1> 20v 5amp I thought
15:38 <@Dagmar> USB is 5v.
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16:25 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Ah, but does DisplayPort have DRM built into the fucking cable?
16:25 <@oddball> The movie studios love that about HDMI for DVD/blueray players.
16:40 <@Bahhumbug> Was HDCP cracked?
16:40 <@Bahhumbug> Wasn't, even
16:41 <@oddball> Probably
16:42 <@oddball> Still, it's there.
16:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah but for $200 or less you can buy a dongle that basically does the HDCP handshake and passes the HDMI video out the other end
16:44 <@oddball> It bothers me that for me to legally watch a movie at home, I have to buy a blueray (which has a DRM and a licensing fee) play it in an approved player (licensing fee) through an approved cable (licensing fee) and on an approved monitor/TV (licensing fee).
16:45 <@Dagmar> i'm going to say point blank that I buy more CDs than I do DVDs _because_ there are very few CDs that try and dick with my ability to listen to them
16:46 <@Dagmar> I have had a problem with all of two CDs which used that deranged "let's put noise into the checksum bits" nonsense
16:47 <@Dagmar> ...and one CD artwork which triggered anti-counterfiet mechanisms for _currency_
16:47 <@oddball> And the reason why there weren't more is because Philips stepped up and said "it's our standard, stop that bullshit."
16:47 <@oddball> Wait... what about the artwork?
16:50 <@Dagmar> Lords of Acid 'Greatest Tits' has a weird fractally thing on it
16:50 <@Dagmar> Drop it on a most flatbed scanners and ask it to scan at a resolution of greater than 300dpi and the scanner will object.
16:52 <@oddball> huh
16:52 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/media.jpg
16:53 <@Dagmar> I really need to add that one to Discogs
16:53 <@Dagmar> frankly I'm suprised I have a CD which wasn't already listed there
16:57 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: is it because it can't join the pieces logically?  add something else to the scanner for it to align with
17:16 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_Power_Delivery
17:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: USB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:16 < PigBot`> Title: USB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:16 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: it is 20v 5amp
17:22 <@Dagmar> evilpig: Nope.  You see where the moire's intersect?  Those areas are killing it.
17:22 <@Dagmar> I can cover them up and it'll scan at whatever resolution I tell it
17:23 <@Dagmar> ...and I've no idea what you mean by "join the pieces".  It's a flatbed scanner.  Everything gets scanned from one end to the other
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19:21 <@Evilpig> lol.  http://xkcd.com/1495/  so much truth
19:21 < PigBot`> Title: xkcd: Hard Reboot (at xkcd.com)
19:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: xkcd: Hard Reboot (at xkcd.com)
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19:27 < dfused> lol...damn
19:27 < dfused> I think I'd rather setup a cron so at least it'll reboot nicely
19:28 <@Evilpig> and if it was say... an access point instead of a server?
19:29 < dfused> meh...then we'll just power cycle it
19:30 <@Evilpig> guess I better put some clothes on before the indian delivery dude shows up
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20:35 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IweoGHEeP-g HAHAHA
20:36 < PigBot`> Title: Govt Uses Bunnies To Fight Against Marijuana Legalization - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Gov't Uses Bunnies To Fight Against Marijuana Legalization - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:40 <@Evilpig> good lord.  my entire facebook news feed is all MSU Racers and Wildcats comments
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> GateKeeper, part
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21:26 < RangerZ1> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2893767/pc-gamers-wont-pay-to-play-xbox-live-games-online-and-console-owners-are-furious.html
21:26 < PigBot`> Title: PC gamers won't pay to play Xbox Live games online, and console owners are FURIOUS | PCWorld (at www.pcworld.com)
21:26 < RangerZ1> hehehehe... thats funny
21:26 < RangerZ1> I hadn't heard/thought about this...
21:27 < RangerZ1> but if xbox gold is free on the PC... then xbox-players who have to pay 60$/yr are getting boned
21:27 < RangerZ1> but charging a fee to play online games on windows would kill MSFT studios/windows store
21:28 <@oddball> You could have just stopped at "xbox owners are getting boned." :p
21:51 <@_NSAKEY> Anyone who makes themselves beholden to microsoft has a tendency to get boned. This is nothing new.
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21:55 <@oddball> I remember looking at xbox gold and thinking "wait, I get to pay for the privledge of having my ears blasted with homophobic slurs from 14 year old boys that never see the sun... ummmm.... yay?"
21:59 <@_NSAKEY> "You too can relive Middle School in the comfort of your own home, and marvel at the creavity of 'kids these days' as they question your sexuality and ethnicity!" - Microsoft sales pitch for Xbox Live.
21:59 <@oddball> yep
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22:32 <@northrup> _NSAKEY: anyone who would make themselves beholden to Microsoft is a fool
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