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00:42 <@RangerZ> Elonka is at GDC, isn't she?
00:42 <@oddball> yep, why?
00:43 <@RangerZ> tomorrow is meeting isn't it?
00:43 <@oddball> Ah... yeah... guess she won't be there.
00:43 <@oddball> Of course, many folks may skip out.
01:09 < _NSAKEY> ben left me with the impression that he's going no matter what.
01:10 < _NSAKEY> Are you guys going?
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02:01 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: I was planning on it, was planning on bringing people too
02:01 < RangerZ1> but we'll see about weather/roads, etc
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03:16 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob/status/570385729097998336
03:16 < PigBot`> Title: You had one job on Twitter: "What a time to be alive. http://t.co/OGy3H77Om3" (at twitter.com)
03:22 < RangerZ1> you ordered 2 didn't you?
03:22 < RangerZ1> for your TSA body fuilds and solids inspection ?
03:23 < RangerZ1> fluids
03:23 < RangerZ1> not like any of us would call the US marshals and tell them that you are carrying copies of the files edwards snowden leaked
03:23 < RangerZ1> and that you plan to give them to the german government
03:25 < RangerZ1> not like it would actually be taken creditably or anything, b/c its not like you have any direct personal ties with him.... or anything....
03:28 < aestetix> I have a bunch of files that Snowden leaked
03:28 < aestetix> but everyone else does too
03:29 < RangerZ1> yeah, but its still a crime to transport them across intl. boundries
03:29 < aestetix> lol
03:29 < RangerZ1> just like the fact that federal employees aren't allowed to acknowledge anything in the leaked files
03:29 < aestetix> man that is hilarious
03:30 < RangerZ1> b/c they are still classified (well that oens that are)
03:30 < RangerZ1> ones*
03:30 < aestetix> I have a few friends who are cleared that complain about that
03:30 < RangerZ1> last time I talked to my friend at a TLA she said that it was stupid too
03:31 < RangerZ1> b/c she couldn't even talk about 'the situation' at all b/c of her job
03:31 < aestetix> TLA?
03:31 < RangerZ1> three letter agency
03:31 < aestetix> ohhh
03:31 < aestetix> You mean she can't talk about it with anyone who isn't cleared?
03:32 < aestetix> I have always wondered how they have it set up
03:32 < aestetix> Is there just a big server like classified.nsa.gov
03:32 < aestetix> where you log in and can just see everything?
03:32 < RangerZ1> nope
03:32 < aestetix> I have been in cleared facilities but never actually seen any classified data
03:33 < RangerZ1> but the 3 million people in the US with clearance can all mark things AS classified
03:33 < RangerZ1> but only like a few thousand can de-classify things
03:33 < aestetix> IIRC there's usually a 40 year rule
03:33 < RangerZ1> nope
03:33 < RangerZ1> after the death of every person involved
03:34 < aestetix> That depends on the agency.
03:34 < RangerZ1> yeah, but thats what i've come to expect
03:34 <@Bahhumbug> Very much so.  If it's a matter of national security it doesn't matter if people are live, dead or zombies.
03:34 < RangerZ1> b/c honestly those are the more interesting records, lol
03:34 < RangerZ1> and if you write a report for you job, and you put 'classified' on it, you're not likely to written up for making your work look 'too important'
03:35 < aestetix> I don't remember the acronym but a lot of documents have a "date to be declassified" label on them
03:35 < RangerZ1> which is why so much is classified as "classified" when it doesn't need to be
03:35 < RangerZ1> aestetix: sure, just like HRC's emails
03:35 < aestetix> hahah
03:35 < RangerZ1> that she decided to give the government
03:35 < RangerZ1> fuck FOIA
03:35 < RangerZ1> :/
03:36 < RangerZ1> i fear that she's going to be our next president
03:36 <@Bahhumbug> I am already sick and tired of hearing about this.
03:36 < RangerZ1> neo-con
03:37 <@Bahhumbug> Clinton?  Neo-con?
03:37 < RangerZ1> b/c the republicans have already lost 2016
03:37 <@Bahhumbug> Sadly, they have not.
03:37 <@Bahhumbug> If they can get a viable candidate they will likely take the White House.
03:37 < RangerZ1> it'll be bush
03:37 < RangerZ1> he's doing like his brother did
03:37 <@Bahhumbug> I'll see that and raise you a No Fucking Way
03:37 < RangerZ1> and out-fundraising them all
03:38 < RangerZ1> he's making 4~5million a-day
03:38 <@Bahhumbug> Irrelevant.
03:38 < RangerZ1> i wish
03:38 <@Bahhumbug> How much did whatshisface spend against Obama?
03:38 <@Bahhumbug> And lost.
03:38 < RangerZ1> who said anything about the general election
03:39 < RangerZ1> i'm talking about the primaries
03:39 <@Bahhumbug> Meh.
03:39 < RangerZ1> he'll win the primaries , easily
03:39 < RangerZ1> the rest of the clown car is just that
03:39 < RangerZ1> been upgraded to clown-limo
03:39 <@Bahhumbug> YOu are free to think what you want but if you honestly think that, no matter HOW stupid the American Sheep are, that they will ever re-elect another Bush you're just plain nuts.
03:40 <@Bahhumbug> And no, he won't carry the EC vote, either.
03:40 <@Bahhumbug> But, it's pretty irrelevant.  He won't get out of the primaries.
03:40 <@Bahhumbug> He's tainted.
03:41 < RangerZ1> I tend to agree with you
03:41 < RangerZ1> but we're not talking about real americans, we're talking about republican primary voters
03:41 <@Bahhumbug> And don't discount everyone else - Rubio will pull the Cuban and likely other Hispanic voters.
03:41 <@Bahhumbug> Christie still hasn't ruled out running, has he?
03:42 < RangerZ1> if he's not in jail, lol
03:42 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
03:42 < RangerZ1> but these people are stupid...they think obama is a socialist marxist anti-colonial
03:42 < RangerZ1> b/c its not like our founding fathers were 'anti-colonial' or anything... :/
03:43 < RangerZ1> I mean... I agree with you, jeb is tarnished, but out of the republicans, he has the 'best' shot of winning the primaries
03:43 < RangerZ1> b/c he has the money
03:44 < RangerZ1> and thats really all that matters in our oligarchy :/
03:44 <@Bahhumbug> Of course they're stupid, their Republicunts.
03:44 <@Bahhumbug> I don't see it happening.
03:45 < RangerZ1> plus the republicans are shortening their primary season and limiting debates, etc
03:47 < RangerZ1> I'm actually happy that romney isn't running again
03:48 < RangerZ1> b/c he would have had a shot
03:48 < RangerZ1> but sadly, other than clinton, the democratic side is about the same
03:48 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not counting him out.
03:49 < RangerZ1> warren , or sharrod brown are about the only two I see who could possibly win against her
03:50 < RangerZ1> and sharrod brown's wife would kill him if he tried, LOL
03:53 <@Bahhumbug> I don't see Clinton as a viable candidate.  Again, tainted.  Bill did her no favors.
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03:54 <@Bahhumbug> But who knows.
03:54 <@Bahhumbug> The American political landscape is nuts.
03:55 <@Bahhumbug> I need to be up and out of here in 4 hours so I'm gonna go smoke myself to sleep.  G'nite.
03:55  * Bahhumbug &
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07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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10:04 <@benthemeek> As far as tonight's meeting I dont think I am going to make it there
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10:05 <@benthemeek> Elonka is still at her conference from what I understand, the weather is crap and I have two girls celebrating their birthdays tonight
10:05 <@benthemeek> I think Tilghman is going to go and make sure the amendment is read again
10:06 <@benthemeek> other than that I dont think any other officers are planning to attend
10:15 < dasunt> So since I see a political discussion in the history, I will mention that I have come to a conclusion.
10:16 < dasunt> I had assumed that George Wallace was more or less considered an historical example of a bigot trying to stop the tide of human progress.
10:16 < dasunt> But I'm beginning to think that in Alabama, he's more or less considered someone who fought the good fight.
10:17  * dasunt waits for someone in Alabama to confirm/deny this.
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10:27 < RangerZ1> dasunt: the current Alibamy Chief of the Supreme Court +Supreme Court ... confirmed this for you a while ago
10:28 < RangerZ1> when he refused to remove the statute of the 10 commandments and was kicked out of his position b/c of it, and then got re-elected... and now is blocking any marriages to stop gay marriages
10:30 < dasunt> It's almost impressive how Alabama can ignore how the winds of change are blowing.
10:35 < RangerZ1> part of me wishes we could just let TX and Alabama do what they want
10:35 < RangerZ1> just let them be an example of what getting no federal dollars does to you
10:36 < RangerZ1> b/c republican states generally are the biggest _recipients_ of federal money
10:36 < RangerZ1> b/c no one wants to live there, that they move to the coasts/big cities
10:37 < RangerZ1> its not like anyone would actually -choose- to live in the south
10:37 < RangerZ1> everyone is just stuck here b/c of some reason or another
10:37 < RangerZ1> lol
10:42 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: That doesn't explain all the people who left California for Texas.
10:43 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: They left to colonize Texas... and now live in a colony called "Austin." :p
10:44 < _NSAKEY> Some of those people also came here.
10:45 < _NSAKEY> I know of a woman in the real estate business in Smyrna who got hooked up with some realtors in California somehow.
10:45 < _NSAKEY> Some doctor would sell their house in California through a realtor, then use that money to buy 4 houses through her.
10:45 < _NSAKEY> Their plan was to live in 1, and rent the other 3 out.
10:45 <@oddball> Because "holy shit, the real estate is cheap as hell here!"
10:46 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it's like they had no idea concerning the lack of services and things to do compared to wherever they came from, or the general cultural backwardsness.
10:46 <@oddball> oh "and they have multi-story buildings?  I did not know that!" (actual comment I've heard from SoCal visitor)
10:47 < _NSAKEY> My grandparents came here in the early 70s, when most of what's now Nashville's suburbs = country roads and farm land/swamp/woods.
10:47 < _NSAKEY> They previously lived in San Diego.
10:47 < _NSAKEY> "Culture shock" was the term my grandmother used.
10:47 <@oddball> Hell, you could say that from the late 80's/early 90's.
10:48 < _NSAKEY> Well, yeah. But it was even worse in the 70s.
10:48 <@oddball> I remember when they built the Cool Springs mall, and everyone's reaction was "way the fuck out there?!"
10:48 < _NSAKEY> The air force pulled the plug on the base and the future of the area was uncertain.
10:48 < _NSAKEY> Hahaha.
10:48 <@Dagmar> Well, if your'e a spoiled rich person in Brentwood the location is great
10:49 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar is correct.
10:49 <@oddball> Hell, there was a cow farm on Abbott Martin just up the hill from the comercial area of Green Hills through the 80's.
10:50 < _NSAKEY> I can remember what's now Sam Ridley Pkwy just being a dinky road through a field.
10:50 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... Brentwood was just starting to be the place for new money.
10:50 < _NSAKEY> My grandmother tended to go up Murfreesboro Rd to go to the Hickory Hollow Mall, because there was more scenery. Hahaha.
10:51 < _NSAKEY> That was before Hickory Hollow became a candidate for carpet bombing.
10:52 <@oddball> I actually lived in Hickory Hollow when it went to shit.
10:53 < _NSAKEY> If you lived in Smyrna/La Vergne back then and wanted to do anything, the answer involved Murfreesboro (Which didn't have much going on either) or Hickory Hollow.
10:54 <@oddball> Actually, I've been thinking.  What Hickory Hollow needs is the right infulx of immigrants.  The Nolensville road area started to slip in the same direction, and then the Kurds moved in.  Gangs have nothing compared to a dictator that's actively trying to kill you for intimdation.
11:08 < _NSAKEY> Nolensville Road is weird, just because all these random immigrant groups from all over the world decided to concentrate there, while mostly ignoring other parts of town.
11:09 < _NSAKEY> For example, the Kurds.
11:09 <@oddball> Also: the ethiopians down the road from the kurds?
11:09 < _NSAKEY> I always wondered why they and others went to specifically chose Nolensville Road.
11:10 < _NSAKEY> s/went to//
11:10 < _NSAKEY> I'm still waking up.
11:11 <@oddball> Not nearly as odd as a few years ago when it seemed like Gatlinburg had been completely taken over by eastern europeans.
11:12 < _NSAKEY> Ok, you've got me there.
11:12 <@oddball> I kept trying to figure out a way to ask "how the hell did you wind up here?" and sounding honestly curious rather than a hateful pigfucker.
11:14 <@Dagmar> You guys must be unfamiiliar with West Nashville then
11:14 <@Dagmar> ...because about 80% or better of the asians in Nashville live there
11:15 <@oddball> yep
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11:15 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, West Nashville is just on the way to McKay's for me...
11:15 < _NSAKEY> ... Which I stopped going to as often after I got a kindle and started actually using Project Gutenberg.
11:16 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Are you going to the meeting?
11:16 <@oddball> Wondering if anyone is actually going to show up?
11:16 <@Dagmar> Yea
11:17 <@Dagmar> If we dont' go, there's no telling who Amber will accuse of something
11:17 < _NSAKEY> I know you said your car is well suited for this kind of weather.
11:17 <@oddball> heh
11:17 < _NSAKEY> If ben is correct and no officers go, then Amber won't be there either.
11:17 <@Dagmar> That reminds me that I need to Twitter another image of a random crate in WoW
11:17 <@oddball> If people are actually going to be there, I might head down as well.
11:17 < _NSAKEY> I'm 100% not going.
11:18 <@oddball> I'll probably dust off the car in a bit and head to the liquor store anyways.
11:21 <@oddball> And... Stormlight is wanting to go outside again.  Apparently her first trip out in the snow and 12 degrees wasn't enough.
11:22 < _NSAKEY> My lab was like that last night. She couldn't get enough of the snow.
11:23 <@oddball> Oh... this cat is not particularly happy with the cold, but starts to get cabin fever rather quickly.
11:23 < dasunt> Was Nolensville Road traditionally an immigrant community?
11:24 < _NSAKEY> My other dog didn't seem to care, except he doesn't even like taking a dump on wet grass, much less snow.
11:24 <@oddball> It's traditionally been a poor/working class area.
11:24 < RangerZ1> dasunt: since the native americans were forced to leave, then yes
11:24 < RangerZ1> lol
11:25 <@oddball> Oh, here's something that will warm your heart RangerZ1: apparently there's multiple states that are actually making progress on passing "constitutional carry." :p
11:26 < _NSAKEY> Speaking of politics, this is my recent contribution to political dicourse: https://twitter.com/_NSAKEY/status/573608792753045504
11:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "@MarshaBlackburn Did Iraq's former Information Minister help you on these quotes? http://t.co/ZjEZFR3EYE Your lying styles are a lot alike." (at twitter.com)
11:26 < PigBot`> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "@MarshaBlackburn Did Iraqs former Information Minister help you on these quotes? http://t.co/ZjEZFR3EYE Your lying styles are a lot alike." (at twitter.com)
11:26 < PigBot`> Title: Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality | Ars Technica (at t.co)
11:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality | Ars Technica (at t.co)
11:26 < _NSAKEY> #shotsfired
11:27 <@oddball> Oh... the "internet freedom" act.
11:27 <@oddball> Sadly, I know a few folks that are otherwise intelligent people that have bought into that one.
11:27 <@Dagmar> Fuck that woman
11:27 <@Dagmar> It would be wrong, but I want to set her on fire for that level of lying
11:27 <@oddball> I don't understand why "we should treat internet connections like phone lines" is that hard to understand.
11:28 < RangerZ1> b/c the -idea- of phone lines -now- is 'socialist'
11:29 < RangerZ1> (thats actually kinda true, in that they are a 'public good' hence the name "public utility"
11:29 < RangerZ1> that you pay for
11:29 < RangerZ1> these people do NOT want america past 1850
11:30 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: There was a guy who ran for the state rep seat here back in 2004. Oscar Gardner. He's dead now.
11:30 < _NSAKEY> One of his official campaign mailers back then said that he wanted to bring Tennessee back to the conservative values it hasn't held since Reconstruction.
11:30 < _NSAKEY> Meaning, when the Democrats took power.
11:31 < _NSAKEY> Except he specifically said he wanted to return Tennessee to the values it held 140 years ago.
11:31 < RangerZ1> "meaning" since we outlawed slavery
11:31 < _NSAKEY> No, we were part of the Confederacy then.
11:31 < _NSAKEY> 2004 - 140 = 1864.
11:31 < RangerZ1> "we" = the union
11:32 < _NSAKEY> No, we = the state of Tennessee.
11:32 < RangerZ1> "we" = the united states
11:32 < RangerZ1> lol
11:32 < RangerZ1> outlawed slavey
11:32 < RangerZ1> slavery*
11:32 < RangerZ1> other than financial (via student loans)
11:32 < _NSAKEY> I trolled the people outside my polling place at the time.
11:32 < _NSAKEY> The supporters for the democrat candidate ate it up.
11:32 < _NSAKEY> The republicans... Not so much.
11:33 < RangerZ1> lol
11:33 < _NSAKEY> They didn't like being asked if Oscar Gardner was telling us he wanted to secede from the Union again.
11:33 < _NSAKEY> I told them I couldn't see myself voting for a guy who wanted to get office long enough to break us away from the United States.
11:35 < dasunt> Why not?
11:37 < RangerZ1> he's not from Alabama
11:37 < dasunt> Isn't there an entire political party (maybe two) that's more or less based on people voting against their self interests?
11:37 < RangerZ1> GOP
11:37 < RangerZ1> lol
11:38 < dasunt> Dems probably qualify as well, it's just that the GOP has taken everything to 11 lately, so I can't recall how the Democrats are being stupid.
11:38 < RangerZ1> the thing is the republican party has become the party of 'issues'
11:38 < RangerZ1> religion, etc
11:38 < dasunt> But they are idiotic issues.
11:38 < RangerZ1> so economics/everything else fall by the wayside
11:39 < RangerZ1> I thought that was obvious when I listed religion ;)
11:39 < dasunt> Well, there is their fight against the ACA.  Which seems to sell well to the voters.
11:40 < RangerZ1> the saddest part is...
11:40 < dasunt> "I want to repeal the law that prevents insurance companies from pricing you out of the market if you have a pre-existing condition."  "Lets vote for this guy!"
11:40 < RangerZ1> i would be a 1950s/60s liberal republcian .... if those still existed
11:41 < dasunt> Younger republicans look like they may cause a party realignment.  Just look at the support for marriage equality amoung that group.
11:41 < RangerZ1> nah
11:41 <@Dickie> You're underestimating the young republicans you can't see
11:41 < RangerZ1> look at the support for gay rights among the top donors, thats whats more important
11:41 <@Dickie> The ones that are identical to their parents
11:42 < dasunt> Top donors will die off within 20 years or so.
11:42 < RangerZ1> new walton heirs will emerge
11:42 <@Dickie> as long as there are legions of voting nitwits, they will be pandered to
11:42 < RangerZ1> let alone koch, etc
11:48 <@Evilpig> Chappie or Unfinished Business ?
11:52 <@benthemeek> chappie
11:52 <@benthemeek> science fiction is always the best choice :D
11:53 <@benthemeek> Just to clarify its not that the officers/board are skipping tonight because they don't want to share or anything, the weather is the main concern
11:54 <@Evilpig> vince vaughn though
11:54 <@benthemeek> But tilghman is going like I said
11:55 <@Dagmar> All main roads are clear now
11:56 <@Dagmar> Everywhere that was brined yesterday seems to have actually _dried_ now
11:57 <@benthemeek> the square in murfreesboro still has a good sheet of ice to my surprise
11:57 <@benthemeek> 840 is just ruts in some places
11:57 <@benthemeek> I wonder if they ran out of salt
11:58 <@Dagmar> Shade
11:58 <@Dagmar> Anything that stayed in the shade during yesterday's sun isn't likely to have thawed
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12:27 <@oddball> Evilpig: If you're still around, I'd vote Unfinished Business.  I'm betting that Chappie is actually a slow paced social comentary film advertised as an action movie like District 9 (directed by the same guy).
12:28 <@Evilpig> very possible
12:29 <@Evilpig> I am kinda leaning toward unfinished business primarily because chappie isn't showing until 3:20
12:32 <@Evilpig> heh. new secret set of bathrooms in the basement
12:32 <@Evilpig> including showers
12:34 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: https://twitter.com/____severine/status/573296464304062465
12:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: severine on Twitter: "forget everything else. here's the real reason san francisco is terrible. http://t.co/G44FXIVW6V" (at twitter.com)
12:34 < PigBot`> Title: severine on Twitter: "forget everything else. heres the real reason san francisco is terrible. http://t.co/G44FXIVW6V" (at twitter.com)
12:35 <@Evilpig> thursday there is a whiskey tasting leading into a st patty's day party
12:35 < aestetix> ugh
12:36 <@oddball> nice.  I keep meaning to go to a whiskey tasting.
12:44 <@Evilpig> the last one I went to I learned I do not like scotch.  not one bit
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12:45 <@Evilpig> the burnt smokey peat taste is just overwhelming to me
12:45 <@oddball> Were they having you drink it neat?
12:58 <@Evilpig> it was a tasting.  so it was like 6 shots
13:16 < dasunt> we've discovered exomoons?  Jesus, where was I when this happened?
13:22 <@RangerZ> dasunt: did you see the hole we dug in mars and found liquid water?
13:22 <@RangerZ> and a little clown fish smiling up at us
13:22 <@RangerZ> turns out it was disney's "finding nemo Next" guilla ad campaign :/
13:23 <@RangerZ> lol
13:27 <@RangerZ> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/03/06/1639244/utorrent-quietly-installs-cryptocurrency-miner well fucj utorrent, lol
13:27 < PigBot`> Title: uTorrent Quietly Installs Cryptocurrency Miner - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
13:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: uTorrent Quietly Installs Cryptocurrency Miner - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
13:27 <@RangerZ> fuck* even
13:27 <@Evilpig> lol
13:27 <@Evilpig> was just a matter of time until someone did that
13:28 <@Dagmar> I thought it was optional
13:30 <@oddball> Well, that's annoying.  They used to be the go to client for windows.
13:31 <@Evilpig> they stopped being the goto client for windows when they starting bundling in adware and displaying ads in the interface as well
13:32 <@Bahhumbug> Trivially disabled.
13:32 <@Bahhumbug> It's still the best gui client out there.
13:32 <@Bahhumbug> (I've never, not once, seen an ad in utorrent)
13:33 <@oddball> I haven't used it for a long time.  Been using Transmission on my linux box.
13:33 <@Evilpig> it might be, but i'm saying fuck them on principle
13:34 <@Bahhumbug> The cryto-miner issue is annoying, but ads?  It's a non-issue when they can be disabled and I see no difference in this then the 978324592843659082345982736982376982346 sites that try to force ads down my throat (which I neer see, either :D )
13:34 <@Bahhumbug> But obviously, to each their own.
13:38 <@RangerZ> azuras was pretty good a while ago, but recently its gotten pretty shitty policy wise too
13:38 <@RangerZ> ads + wanting you to upgrade , etc
13:43 <@RangerZ> so the roads are perfectly fine out there
13:43 <@RangerZ> well 'real' roads, lol
13:43 <@RangerZ> not those pesky 'side' roads, lol
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14:36 < _NSAKEY> I've personally been waiting for that too, EvilPig.
14:37 < _NSAKEY> Although I'm pretty sure someone already did something much like it.
14:54 <@oddball> yep... the roads are fine.
14:56 <@sasquatc3> i switched over to deluge not too long ago, likin it alot better than utorrent
14:57 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'm still not venturing out.
14:58 < _NSAKEY> My neighborhood is probably not a mess right this instant, but will be when it gets colder again tonight.
15:01 <@oddball> Ironically, my neighborhood's side streets are dryer than m'boro road.
15:05 < _NSAKEY> I can't really say that about mine.
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15:40 <@Bahhumbug> Ice?  What ice?
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> It's all gone here.
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> Which is good, because driving on a skating rink loses its appeal pretty fast.
15:48 <@Dagmar> ...especially once the police get involved.
15:49 < _NSAKEY> I just went outside again. Looks like the roads I can see are dry, but I'm still not sure I want to get out.
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16:09 <@Dagmar> Wow.  Once you get over about 60-70 view items, the preview just starts sucking
16:14 < dasunt> "a series of books not intended as fiction" <- Now there's a backhanded description.
16:33 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEjvr0crzV0 this asshat needs a beating
16:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: FCC Commissioner on Why He Opposes Net Neutrality - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:34 < PigBot`> Title: FCC Commissioner on Why He Opposes Net Neutrality - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:34 < RangerZ1> he was at fucking CPAC ...wtf do you expect...
16:39 <@oddball> Wait... I thought he shocked everyone and said he was for it a month or so back.  This is the guy that used to be a Comcast lobbyist, right?
16:43 < RangerZ1> no
16:44 < RangerZ1> they are 'all' called 'commissioner'
16:44 < RangerZ1> all 5 of them
16:44 <@oddball> ahhh ok
16:46 < aestetix> wait
16:46 < aestetix> ohhhhh
16:46 < aestetix> ok
16:46 < aestetix> so not the FCC Chair
16:46 <@oddball> That's who I was thinking of!
16:48 < RangerZ1> i wish someone would fucking fact-check him -live-
16:48 < RangerZ1> "no you fucking moron, they ARE blocking content already.... or limiting content"
16:48 < RangerZ1> HBO go not being allowed on comcast except via roku
16:49 < RangerZ1> comcast making netflix pay
16:49 < RangerZ1> etc
16:50 <@oddball> I was unaware that Comcast was blocking HBO Go unless it was through the Roku channel.
16:51 <@Dagmar> whoohoo!  Ran out of heap space in AS!
16:51 < aestetix> wait
16:52 < aestetix> did he really just say consumers will have less choice?
16:52 < aestetix> how is it possible to have less choice than comcast or nothing?
16:52 <@Dagmar> Comcast making Netflix pay is just retarded
16:52 <@Dagmar> It's the stupidest possible thing they could do
16:52 <@Dagmar> They're literally being offered a free _Netflix_
16:53 <@Dagmar> ...and Comcast wants to charge them for hosting it on their network, despite the fact that it will eliminate a shitton of transit
16:53 <@Dagmar> Dumb.  As.  A.  Brick.
16:53 < aestetix> so the easiest way to solve this would be for someone at comcast to leak plans about throttling traffic
16:54 <@Dagmar> If their transit costs are so high, you'd _think_ they'd maybe clue into the idea that they need to reduce them via a technical measure.
16:55 <@oddball> Dagmar: You're coming to the meeting tonight, yes?
16:55 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: exactly, comcast doesn't WANT users using netflix
16:56 < RangerZ1> oddball: you going?
16:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm coming to the meeting
16:57 <@oddball> If I know other folks aren't being chicken shit, yeah.
16:57 <@Bahhumbug> "plans to" implies that it's not already being done, and it's been a well-known fact for years that comshaft limits content providers at their peering points.
16:59 <@Bahhumbug> And I call absolute fucking _BULLSHIT_ on any claims they have about transit costs.  They are their own fucking backback (ibone.comcast.net) and are big enough to rival any tier-2 provider.
16:59 <@Bahhumbug> backback?  wow.  I'm tired.  backbone.
16:59 <@oddball> Oh, any argument against net neutrality quickly falls apart if you actually look at it.
17:01 < RangerZ1> well obviously the phone network is going to fall apart from lack of investment
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> Most.  But in this case it's obvious to anyone with a brain and a _sliver_ of knowledge about comshafts operations.
17:01 <@oddball> As a customer, I pay Comcast to access the internet, Netflix pays their ISP so they can host content on the internet, and Comcast and Netflix' ISP have an agreement to connect their clients to each other.  Nobody's getting a free ride here.
17:02 < RangerZ1> you know how when you try to call across the state, and the operator tells you that there aren't enough connections yet, and that you have to wait, or send your message in morse code
17:02 < RangerZ1> ohhh wait...
17:02 < RangerZ1> that doesn't happen
17:02 <@Bahhumbug> Yes it does.
17:02 <@oddball> It does, but only is extreme situations
17:03 <@Bahhumbug> There are still capacity intercepts on all providers.
17:03 <@oddball> (tornados touching down, for instance)
17:03 < RangerZ1> or hostage situations, etc where the lines get clogged, but those are -exceptions-
17:03 < aestetix> So what I don't get
17:03 < RangerZ1> not a -nightly- event
17:03 < RangerZ1> public decency ? morals?
17:03 < aestetix> He is suggesting that he won't act on speculation on throttling, but he will speculate about tax hikes?
17:04 <@Bahhumbug> Why are you listening to a mouth-piece?
17:04 < aestetix> hi Bahhumbug
17:04 <@Bahhumbug> He's been bought and sold already.
17:04 <@Bahhumbug> Choke on a knife.
17:04 <@oddball> It's like I don't get real upset with ATT because the cell data on my phone goes to shit when I'm in Atlanta for Dragoncon.  I understand that there's an obscene spike in usage.
17:04  * aestetix hugs Bahhumbug 
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17:11 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/573968246430302208
17:11 < aestetix> there we go
17:11 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: ".@AjitPaiFCC How do you dismiss speculation about bandwidth throttling but accept speculation about tax hikes? https://t.co/HoyCgR48zC" (at twitter.com)
17:13 <@oddball> wow... apparently, according to a MotherJones article, eating 3 meals a day is racist.
17:13 <@oddball> http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/against-meals-breakfast-lunch-dinner
17:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Why You Should Stop Eating Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner | Mother Jones (at www.motherjones.com)
17:13 < PigBot`> Title: Why You Should Stop Eating Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner | Mother Jones (at www.motherjones.com)
17:14 < aestetix> ....
17:15 < RangerZ1> it doesn't say its racist, it says that that racists used it as a means to feel superior
17:15 < RangerZ1> of course they did, they were pilgrams
17:15 < RangerZ1> ;)
17:15 < RangerZ1> they used EVERYTHING to feel superior, including chicken pox
17:15 < RangerZ1> and small pox
17:16 < RangerZ1> and this doesn't apply for children
17:16 < RangerZ1> where eating breakfast has very strong causation for doing better/worse in school
17:17 <@oddball> up at the top: "Dogmatic adherence to mealtimes is anti-science, racist, and might actually be making you sick."
17:17 < aestetix> It's like they gathered a few unrelated facts together and created a new conclusion
17:17 < RangerZ1> well ... fuck that byline
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17:17 < RangerZ1> b/c the article itself doesn't say that
17:17 < RangerZ1> i just read the article, lol
17:17 < aestetix> And that byline sounds like it was borrowed from buzzfeed
17:18 < RangerZ1> aestetix: b/c it was
17:18 < RangerZ1> all 'catchy' bylines like that are designed to be buzzfeed-like bait
17:18 < RangerZ1> b/c it works :/
17:18 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Are you going to the meeting?
17:18 <@oddball> Yeah... I'll grant you that there was very little in the article to support the racist bit other than "well, the europeans thought it was the norm," but...
17:18 < _NSAKEY> I'm still on the fence, but that's not because of the weather now.
17:19 < _NSAKEY> Waiting on some e-mail, and if it doesn't show up soon I'm going to head towards town.
17:19 <@oddball> ah
17:19 < _NSAKEY> I've got this one person who sends all their stuff at once late in the afternoons.
17:19 <@oddball> You know... there's ways of checking email at JJ's... just saying. :p
17:20 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: yeah
17:20 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, but I am NOT going to set myself up to print a giant PDF and start doing work while mobile.
17:20 < _NSAKEY> Because that's what this requires.
17:20 <@oddball> aestetix: As for the conclusions, nutrition is one of those scientific feilds where you can find a study that will tell you damn near anything.
17:21 < RangerZ1> was just going to stay at home , but if other fools will be there, I'll go
17:21 < RangerZ1> lol
17:21 <@oddball> ahhhh... yeah.
17:21 <@oddball> jooooiiiin us.... joooooOOOIIIIiiin us....
17:21 < _NSAKEY> The roads are alright here, except they're wet in a few spots that I can avoid.
17:21 < _NSAKEY> At this point, if I don't go it will be work-related.
17:22 < _NSAKEY> Because this one client likes to go, "Hey, here's 50 new people to repossess," after no contact for days.
17:22 < _NSAKEY> Just out of the blue.
17:24 <@oddball> See... I'm generally of the opinion that if it's after 4 on Friday and nothing's on fire, I don't expect a respons until Monday.
17:25 < dasunt> That Mother Jones article is kind of annoying.
17:25 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I don't get that luxury.
17:25 < _NSAKEY> There's also no such thing as vacation in this business.
17:25 < dasunt> It takes watching the natives feast as a sign the settlers were fascinated.  I think the author is underestimating the amount of valid entertainment options in colonial America.
17:26 <@oddball> dasunt: Oh, it makes perfect sense... from a ceratin point of view.
17:27 <@oddball> That point of view being someone that can't avoid seeing racism in the fact that the sky is blue.
17:28 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Actually, what business are you in?
17:29 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Repo business.
17:29 <@oddball> ah
17:29 < _NSAKEY> I mostly handle the office shit that nobody cares about, as opposed to actually getting to ruin other people's days by taking their cars.
17:30 <@oddball> So... most of your business is overnight and weekends where you can come by a "creatively reclaim" the property in the cover of night? :p
17:30 < _NSAKEY> The former is pure drudgery but low stress, while the latter is high stress but can also be hilarious at times.
17:31 <@oddball> Yeah... I've come to understand that the actual task of repo'ing can be a bit hazardous, since folks tend to blame you for them not paying their bills.
17:34 < RangerZ1> leaving now, will be at JJs
17:34 < dasunt> oddball: They author seems weak in the science end as well, unless the editor hacked the article to bits.
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17:35 <@oddball> I'm going to go with "weak in the science"
17:35 <@oddball> RangerZ2: ok, I'll be heading down in a minute as well.
17:49 < _NSAKEY> I'm going to ease towards J7J's. See you guys there.
17:49 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ2: Don't forget your friends.
18:12 <@Bahhumbug> And your rabies shots.  I'm sure Amber will bite if provoked like most wild animals will.
18:31 <@Shadow404> lawl
18:40 <@Bahhumbug> You know I'm right.
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19:37 < aestetix> ugh
19:37 < aestetix> someone just retweeted anarchival into my twitter stream
19:37 <@Evilpig> lol
19:40 <@Bahhumbug> Couldn't happen to a better person.
19:40 <@Bahhumbug> Or something like that.
19:52 <@Evilpig> for having a deathgrip on the ticket industry ticket master is a giant piece of shit
19:52 <@Evilpig> We were unable to process your request.
19:52 <@Evilpig> Try again later.
19:52 <@Evilpig> NaN
20:25 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kqcczy6MQ&feature=youtu.be
20:25 < PigBot`> Title: Watch This Incredible Moment When A Father Of Four Hears Silence For The First Time - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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21:36 < RangerZ2> so, shweta was kinda shell shocked, lol
21:36 < RangerZ2> but she found it interesting, lol
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22:12 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ2: Why was she shell shocked?
22:19 < RangerZ2> we're all fucking weird ;)
22:20 < RangerZ2> she just isn't used to anything like that, much more a quiet reserved type, etc
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22:50 < dfused> RangerZ2: I'm not weird.
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23:04 < RangerZ2> no, you classify as something entirely different
23:04 < RangerZ2> but I'm too close to a church to utter those words safely
23:04 < dfused> heh
23:05 <@oddball> dfused: Are you rich enough to be eccentric?
23:05 < dfused> no sir.
23:07 < RangerZ2> anyone that rich, wouldn't be in this chat
23:07 < RangerZ2> lol
23:09 <@oddball> One can dream
23:13 < dfused> ROCK LOBSTER!
23:19 <@klixa-cloud> I'd use irc if I were rich...
23:19 <@oddball> yep... same here.
23:20 < dfused> perhaps...but I think 'd be too busy travelling
23:20 <@klixa-cloud> I'm traveling right now
23:20 < _NSAKEY> If I was rich, I'd buy a TLD via ICANN just to give myself 1 domain and use it to set up an IRC network...
23:20 < _NSAKEY> ... Then I'd IRC while rich.
23:20 <@klixa-cloud> I was in LA yesterday morning and I'm in the bay right now
23:20 < aestetix> oh yeah?
23:20 < aestetix> where
23:21 <@klixa-cloud> aestetix: Vallejo
23:21 < aestetix> ugh
23:21 < dfused> well I was just in Norfolk thi smorning... and now I'm in charleston
23:21 < _NSAKEY> klixa-cloud: Kick aestetix in the nuts for the rest of us, if you don't mind.
23:21 < dfused> but work doesnt count
23:21 <@klixa-cloud> yeah I know but my bf is remodeling a house here for the next month then we go to either San Diego or portland aestetix
23:21 < aestetix> klixa-cloud: if you come to oakland I'll buy you a gold tooth
23:21 < dfused> hah
23:22 <@klixa-cloud> Vallejo is the one place worse than oakland
23:23 <@klixa-cloud> I'm at a safeway and I came back to the van cause I was worried for its safety ; everyone else is still insude
23:23 < aestetix> lol your van was still there
23:23 <@klixa-cloud> there's like 6 people hovering by the car next to me and I'm pretty sure drugs are involved
23:23 < aestetix> so come to oakland, it's safer here
23:24 <@klixa-cloud> it really is safer in oakland lol
23:24 < aestetix> the most dangerous thing in oakland is the police department
23:24 <@klixa-cloud> the area where the house is isn't bad luckily
23:25 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Why should we kick aestetix this time?
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23:25 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: He is there. Therefore, he should be kicked.
23:25 <@klixa-cloud> aestetix: my friends neighbor was robbed this past week ; they literally stole everything even his clothes and silverware
23:25 <@klixa-cloud> in Oakland
23:25 <@_NSAKEY> When aestetix is concerned, valid reasons aren't mandatory.
23:25 <@oddball> ah... pulling a Bahhumbug, then.
23:26 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: Except I'm nicer about it, and don't care enough to use IRC powers against him.
23:26 < aestetix> klixa-cloud: even his gold teeth?
23:26 <@oddball> klixa-cloud: You sure he was just evicted and doesn't want to admit it? :p
23:26 <@klixa-cloud> aestetix: no but only cause he wasn't there :p
23:26 < aestetix> I think Bahhumbug is just lonely and angry. Maybe we should pool in to get him a hooker.
23:26 <@klixa-cloud> he's def angry
23:27 <@klixa-cloud> bbl
23:34 <@Dagmar> oddball: I *did* actually back up that video so I could look at that guy's expression before he bolted out of view
23:34 <@Dagmar> That guy is destined to become a "That moment when..." meme.
23:35 <@oddball> I have to give him credit for his persistance.
23:35 <@oddball> And the "what happened?  Did you hurt yourself?"
23:36 <@Dagmar> You can see the exact moment his little heart breaks if you go through it frame by frame
23:36 <@oddball> hehehe
23:36 <@Dagmar> ...but it's a learning experience, and a good one.
23:37 <@Dagmar> For one thing, he now knows that whoever told him you can do anything if you believe in yourself left out a few details about the limited nature of this offer.
23:37 <@oddball> And for the record: I have broken a board with my head.  Hell, someone has broken boards over my head.  They were not a sheet like that.
23:38 <@_NSAKEY> What video are you guys talking about?
23:38 <@Dagmar> ...and that wood which was specifically engineered to flex instead of breaking is a bad thing to try that with
23:38 <@Dagmar> You ahven't seen it?  Hee heeh
23:38 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: https://www.facebook.com/michael.farnette/posts/10206173699725979
23:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
23:38 < PigBot`> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
23:38 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=man%20tries%20to%20break%20board%20with%20head
23:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
23:38 < PigBot`> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
23:38 <@oddball> It's a facebook video, or I would direct link to it.
23:38 <@Dagmar> I shit you not it's the first hit on Google
23:38 <@oddball> heh
23:39 <@_NSAKEY> "Inspire you to do something that you didn't think was possible."
23:39 <@Dagmar> I mean, it's acting, but it's really, really great acting.  :)
23:39 <@_NSAKEY> I'm guessing that something wasn't "Look like a titanic dipshit," but I have a feeling that's what's going to happen.
23:39 <@Dagmar> You're going to watch it.
23:40 <@_NSAKEY> I am.
23:40 <@Dagmar> The guy has other videos on YouTube in which he does _not_ appear to be mentally handicapped, so... onus is on him for making fun of people.
23:40 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELAVJoUp8OE
23:40 < PigBot`> Title: How To Eat 26 Ghost Peppers in 6 min or Less Like an Absolute Boss (sort of) | vomit alert - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:40 <@Dagmar> ...but he's willing to suffer for his art!
23:41 <@_NSAKEY> Hahahaha.
23:41 <@_NSAKEY> I think he suffered actual brain damage by the end.
23:41 <@oddball> Yep... watching again, that's plywood.  It ain't going to break.  If it does, you'll be a world of pain due to how that shit splinters.
23:41 <@Dagmar> Well, that stuff you could probably bend into a half-pipe
23:42 <@oddball> right
23:42 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Maybe that's what he was secretly trying to do.
23:42 <@Dagmar> Odds are if he had pulled a _rigid_ piece of wood down on his head that hard, it would knock his ass out
23:43 <@oddball> On the top of the head?  Yeah... bad things.
23:44 <@_NSAKEY> I get the impression that this guy spent his childhood watching too many bad martial arts movies.
23:44 <@Dagmar> Unless they dubbed up the sound, it sounds like he's whacking himself pretty good with that thing.  Hehe
23:44 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Could be
23:44 <@_NSAKEY> What gets me is how his words became increasingly slurred as the video rolled on.
23:44 <@Dagmar> It could also be that he thought "thin piece of wood, easy to break"
23:44 <@oddball> Oh, you can tell by the bending that there's a decent amount of force.
23:46 <@Dagmar> I am *trying* to not engage in stereotyping by thinking "He's an adult male.  OF *course* he knows about wood."
23:47 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure if I want to know where the guy got the idea tho heh
23:49 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Bad martial arts movies and a lack of life experience seem to have conspired to give us something to laugh at.
23:49 <@Dagmar> It's acting, tho'.
23:49 <@Dagmar> Now, I'm not saying the guy is "right" in the head, but he's not mentally disabled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnlH8XJTUCU
23:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: Biggest Whoopie Cushion - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:49 < PigBot`> Title: Biggest Whoopie Cushion - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:49 <@Dagmar> But that was really great acting
23:49 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Was this video made before or after the board non-breaking video?
23:50 <@_NSAKEY> If it was made before, then your "he's not mentally disabled" quote stands unchallenged.
23:50 <@Dagmar> He's got 333k subscribers to his channel
23:51 <@_NSAKEY> If I was the kind of person to subscribe to youtube channels, I'd subscribe to his if it consisted of him creatively hurting himself while trying to look like a badass.
23:51 <@Dagmar> The "Biggest Whoopie Cushion" video was put up one month later
23:52 <@oddball> So... you enjoyed the show Jackass?
23:52 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: No, but this board video was pretty hilarious.
23:53  * oddball wonders if he can get anyone to try breaking a board with their head at testing in the morning...
23:53 <@Dagmar> Aha!
23:53 <@oddball> I know my instructor would egg them on.
23:54 <@Dagmar> I found what gave him the idea
23:54 <@Dagmar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XI3U8eupNQ
23:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Do Something Difficult! (ORIGINAL Motivational Speaker Board Break Fail) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:54 < PigBot`> Title: Do Something Difficult! (ORIGINAL Motivational Speaker Board Break Fail) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:54 <@_NSAKEY> So how do you guys think the meeting went?
23:54 <@Dagmar> Posted to YouTube 13 days earlier, a _genuine_ idiot
23:56 <@Dagmar> You'll pardon me if I don't go posting that to Facebook, because I'm *sure* that if I post saying you don't have to feel bad about laughing at this guy because it's an act." there will be people who will get bent out of shape about the video itsefl
23:56 <@Dagmar> ...and somehow *I* will be the bad guy.  lol
23:56 <@oddball> fuck 'em
23:56 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I found it productive
23:56 <@Dagmar> Nah man
23:57 <@Dagmar> STupid people don't like it when you laugh at stupid people.
23:57 <@oddball> wait... you give a shit what people on the internet think of you?  Who *are* you?  What have you done with Dagmar?
23:58 <@Dagmar> Unlike some people, I actually do have a lot of folks I've known for _decades_ who also do the social network thing
23:59 <@Dagmar> Hell, there were like 300+ people that fit that description that I graduated high school with
23:59 <@oddball> And they already know you're an asshole. :p
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