--- Log opened Fri Feb 27 00:00:40 2015 00:00 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:07 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Quit: Learn where everything you take for granted on a daily basis in IT originated from: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4BFC3F13B846707B] 00:09 < RangerZ1> so rush is calling it "obama-net" 00:10 < RangerZ1> thats going to backfire even worse than "obama-care" did 00:12 < RangerZ1> now you'll get 1000mbit internet porn and can say "thanks obama" , and then go to the hospital and say "thanks obama" when you need 'repetitive injury' based care 00:12 < RangerZ1> lol 00:14 < RangerZ1> damn it... no "last mile unbundling" 00:15 < RangerZ1> [The FCC could have tried to use Title II to require last-mile unbundling, in which Internet providers would have to sell wholesale access to their networks. This would allow new competitors to enter local markets without having to build their own infrastructure. ] 00:15 < RangerZ1> [But the FCC decided not to impose unbundling. As such, the vote does little to boost Internet service competition in cities or towns. ] 00:15 < RangerZ1> from ars 00:16 < RangerZ1> but I don't know if thats true or not, b/c now it should allow google to run fiber on the telephone poles, shouldn't it? 00:19 <@aestetix> ... obamanet? 00:43 < RangerZ1> apparently 00:43 < RangerZ1> trying to get conservatives all up in arms 00:43 < RangerZ1> ec 00:43 < RangerZ1> etc* 00:55 <@aestetix> but this was an FCC thing 00:55 <@aestetix> not an Obama thing 01:05 < RangerZ1> but it 'is' 01:06 < RangerZ1> b/c the 3 who voted for it , are democratic nominees 01:06 < RangerZ1> lol 01:06 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8i0Adw6AQ she had baloons of "21" in her window 01:06 < PigBot`> Title: Birthday Balloons In Sweden Confused For ISIS Propaganda - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:06 < RangerZ1> and reversed someone thought it said "IS" 01:08 < RangerZ1> so when I go to walmart and ask for a cake saying "ISIS: We're knocking them dead" .... I wonder what would happen 01:08 < RangerZ1> lol 01:13 <@aestetix> democratic nominees to an independent committee 01:51 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:52 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 02:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 02:05 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFt1Ss6rWJY 02:05 < PigBot`> Title: Farting In The Hood Prank - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:22 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:36 <@aestetix> wow 02:36 <@aestetix> http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/ 02:36 < PigBot`> Title: Cost of Living Calculator: Compare the Cost of Living in Two Cities - CNNMoney (at money.cnn.com) 02:36 <@aestetix> Compare San Francisco to Nashville, making 100k 02:36 <@aestetix> comparable salary is $53,924 02:36 <@aestetix> Housing75%less 02:39 <@klixa> i hate sf 02:41 <@klixa> i like silicon valley though; palo alto, mountain view, cupertino, Los Gatos, etc. 02:41 <@klixa> malibu/calabasas/ventura is the best part of cali imo 02:54 < _NSAKEY> Did anyone go to that board meeting? 03:12 -!- scoob [~scoob@c-50-180-134-162.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:12 -!- scoob [~scoob@c-50-180-134-162.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:12 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has joined #se2600 03:51 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@c-50-172-205-21.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:51 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@c-50-172-205-21.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:51 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 03:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 03:58 <@Dagmar> Wow it's _astonishing_ what a pack of lies Ted Cruz is trying to sell the interenet today 04:06 <@klixa> im really confused about this internet thing. Net Neutrality seems like a good thing, but being classificed as a public utility seems like a bad thing. 04:15 <@aestetix> ..... 04:15 <@aestetix> what could he possibly say 04:15 <@aestetix> klixa: it's a mixed bag. 04:16 <@aestetix> But I am definitely happy that they now can't do rate throttling. 04:17 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 04:18 <@aestetix> _NSAKEY: what board meeting 04:20 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: There was a Nashville 2600 board meeting at 6 PM. 04:21 <@aestetix> question for the class 04:22 <@aestetix> One of the reasons Facebook is so valued is because of the network you get access to 04:22 <@aestetix> pre-internet, is there any analogous industry? 04:22 <@aestetix> (I don't think broadcast tv/phone works because it's not p2p) 04:23 <@aestetix> I've been trying to figure out what Facebook's "domain" is. 04:24 <@aestetix> They get compared to Google, but honestly Google seems like it is different. 04:24 <@aestetix> Maybe twitter, although they are functionally different. 04:25 <@aestetix> Twitter doesn't do event invites, etc 04:29 <@Dagmar> klixa: So... stop listening to what the telcos say. 04:29 <@Dagmar> klixa: Didja ever notice anything bad happening to the phone company after they were declared a utility? 04:30 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Pre-internet there were BBSes, and prior to that, actual corkboards. 04:30 <@aestetix> Dagmar: BBSs enjoyed competition though. 04:31 <@aestetix> I'm thinking in terms of how you would define a monopoly. 04:32 <@aestetix> I think one challenge is the place where you'd classically define it is where money changes hands, and in that area Facebook is just another data broker. 04:33 <@aestetix> IE in the data broker sense Facebook is clearly NOT a monopoly by any measure. 04:33 <@aestetix> If you view that the data users create for Facebook is a resource that doubles as a currency, things get tricky. 05:29 <@aestetix> wow 05:29 <@aestetix> http://www.femskin.com/femskin.htm 05:29 < PigBot`> Title: FemSkin.com (at www.femskin.com) 05:32 <@aestetix> nsfw probably 05:41 < _NSAKEY> When have you ever pasted SFW links? 07:19 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:00 * Catonic heads for the bed 08:01 <@Catonic> _NSAKEY: you're catching on. He used to be like CNN, if CNN was all Goatse.cx all the time. 08:16 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: have you seen this thing that Catonic posted? http://www.eliomotors.com/ 08:16 < PigBot`> Title: Elio Motors | The next big thing in transportation! (at www.eliomotors.com) 08:17 <@Dolemite> no 08:18 <@Dolemite> Ah, I'd seen some concept vehicles like that, before... it will be nice to see if these actually make it to market 08:20 <@Evilpig> I'd love to get one if it makes it to market, especially at that price point 08:21 <@Dolemite> yeah, that is a very sweet price point 08:54 < Synx|hm_> ok so what does all this FCC stuff mean right now? 08:54 < Synx|hm_> 60 days to start assuming no litigation (which for sure will happen)? 08:55 < Synx|hm_> also nothing in any of this about BW Caps, so Comcast is still going to fuck us all over likely more so with caps now 08:58 <@Evilpig> expect bandwidth caps to be challenged soon and often 08:58 < Synx|hm_> FUCKING COMCAST 08:59 < Synx|hm_> just upped my bill again, after months of fighting with corporate to get the 12month deal they advertised and promised but refused to honor now my bill is up 3 months later 08:59 < Synx|hm_> im going to call this corporate person back direct 08:59 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I think you were looking forward to this. https://kickass.to/fifty-shades-of-grey-2015-1080p-hc-webrip-x264-aac2-0-rarbg-t10276037.html 08:59 <@Dolemite> No, not me 08:59 <@Dolemite> That was my sister looking for it 09:00 <@Evilpig> not buying it, you look like a 50 shades girl 09:02 < Synx|hm_> just called corporate direct and told them i would be filing complaints with both the FCC and local trade comission in light of their title II clasification 09:02 < Synx|hm_> seriously fuck these people 09:04 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm_: they do have that clause in the contract that says "this price can be changed at anytime" which makes it not a contract at all 09:04 <@Evilpig> well other than you agreeing to pay them whatever they demand for a period of x 09:05 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #se2600 09:05 < Synx|hm_> Evilpig: they promised it for 12 months and i never signed a contract and dont give two shits what their EULA says 09:05 < Synx|hm_> never mind they refused to honor the price the first time around 09:06 < Synx|hm_> sold me one thing, then billed me for 4 times that, and then for a solid month said the package i was sold (that is still advertised today on their website) did not exist 09:06 <@Evilpig> pulled that shit on me a few times 09:07 <@Evilpig> "we're sorry they just haven't updated the site yet, that package is no longer available" 09:07 < Synx|hm_> this is my first time with comcast and i honestly though, 'self... all these media stories cant be 100% what its like, while i agree cable companies are the devil ill bet these are just single time things with shitty reps' NOPE NOPE NOPE its 100% of the time 09:07 < dfused> all shit all the time 09:15 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm_: You should have moved 2 miles South into LaVergne so that you could get TDS Fiber. 09:15 < Synx|hm_> FML i know 09:15 < Synx|hm_> im honestly considering going to 12Mbit DSL 09:16 <@Dolemite> Now I still contend that the people paying the $100/month for gigabit fiber are just idiots (other than a few Computational Scientists at ORNL that I know who did it, but they are doing large data transfers that are not of the bit torrent nature)... 09:17 <@Dolemite> I have the bundled option ($40/month) for the 50 Mbps service and even with multiple Netflix streams going and large downloads happening see no latency 09:18 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I'm considering upping my package because i've been saturating my outbound 09:39 < Synx|hm_> ill say it again, the local telco 'united.net' same lady answers the phone every time so its a small shop is stuck in the fucking stoneage 09:39 < Synx|hm_> my sister down the street has fiber to the home, and they required she get a typical 'wet copper' package with phone 09:39 < Synx|hm_> and then would only offer 100Mbit 09:40 < Synx|hm_> second nashvile franchise comission complaint is on on comcast 09:40 < Synx|hm_> hope title-ii helps 09:41 <@Dolemite> It won't 09:41 < Synx|hm_> i know but i can dream 09:41 < Synx|hm_> let me dream jesus 09:41 <@Dolemite> But it feels good to tilt at windmills 09:41 < Synx|hm_> otherwise there is no hope 09:41 <@Dolemite> Although we did get 2 happy conclusions recently. 09:41 < Synx|hm_> its this or 12Mbit DSL 09:41 <@Dolemite> 1. The troll that sexually harassed my wife at Best Buy got fired 09:41 < Synx|hm_> oh ya wasnt TN one of the states that got the municiple internet ban over turned yesterday too 09:42 <@Dolemite> 2. The auto repair shop that totally fucked up my wife's blower motor replacement has agreed to refund us the full amount 09:42 < Synx|hm_> Dolemite: oh shit, sorry to hear about that :( 09:42 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm_: Yeah, the guy at the cell phone area told her that he was going to bend her over his knee and spank her while riding around the store in his wheelchair until she repented for not buying a Samsung phone 09:43 < Synx|hm_> holy fuck 09:43 <@Dolemite> Yep 09:43 <@Dolemite> Here's the crazy part 09:43 < Synx|hm_> wait so you spouse was just in there getting a phone? 09:43 < Synx|hm_> my god 09:44 <@Dolemite> We mentioned it in very Vaguebook fashion... and my wife, who only knows about 20 people in Knoxville on Facebook, had a friend taht knew exactly who we were talking about, because he had sent inappropriate text messages to her after getting her number during a phone upgrade 09:45 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm_: My wife was simply picking up a case for her new LG G3 09:45 < Synx|hm_> wow 09:46 < Synx|hm_> what did BB have to say for themselves? 09:46 <@Dolemite> Not much, other than he was on admin leave for a week and at the end of that he is no longer with Best Buy 09:46 <@Dolemite> But my wife then hit them up for a donation to the school PTA since she's fundraising chair 09:47 <@Dolemite> I told her to realy put the screws to them 09:47 <@opticron> heh 09:50 < Synx|hm_> stick it to those fuckers 10:01 < Synx|hm_> RangerZ2: no responses to my auto shop question on my car forum sorry 10:01 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 10:03 < Synx|hm_> UPS guy is going to be pissed today 10:04 < Synx|hm_> ive got a car radiator, child car seat, and 4 other amazon packages all being delivered 10:04 <@Evilpig> heh 10:04 < Synx|hm_> should i slip the guy a 20 10:04 <@Evilpig> that isn't that bad 10:04 < Synx|hm_> oh and my stoop is full of ice haha 10:04 <@Evilpig> he's at least getting rid of all that in one load 10:04 < Synx|hm_> i should fix the ice thing right now 10:04 < Synx|hm_> haha 10:05 <@Evilpig> if you get the hose on it now, you can get it really icy before he gets there 10:05 < Synx|hm_> get the full drive way up to the stairs a sheet of ice 10:05 < Synx|hm_> ill leave a pair of ice skates at the street with 'Dear UPS... please use the provided skates to get to my house" 10:06 <@Evilpig> "dear ups, don't dent my radiator" 10:06 < Synx|hm_> oh ya that too 10:06 < Synx|hm_> fuck 10:06 < Synx|hm_> i guess ill want to pressure test this new one too when i put it in eh 10:13 < Synx|hm_> omnirom or cyanogen? 10:13 < Synx|hm_> my note ii is on its last leg, needs a new minimal OS to keep going 11:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:09 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:12 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:19 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26 <@Evilpig> Focus or The DUFF ? 11:32 <@oddball> I'd say Focus. 11:32 <@oddball> The DUFF might be a decent movie, but I don't think it's worth seeing in theaters. 11:35 <@Evilpig> rotten tomatoes isn't too pleased with focus. but that is how I was leaning 11:42 <@Evilpig> oh dear. they've made a street-pass group at work. when they get to work they all desposit their ds's at the same place 11:42 <@oddball> heh 12:09 <@aestetix> wow 12:09 <@aestetix> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-27/should-the-us-make-billions-from-student-loans- 12:09 < PigBot`> Title: Should the U.S. Make Billions From Student Loans? - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com) 12:10 <@aestetix> "Some point out, however, that there are risks inherent in handing money to people who might just get a degree in basket weaving, without checking their credit score. " 12:10 <@aestetix> What 18 year old *has* a credit score? 12:11 <@Evilpig> me 12:11 < RangerZ1> of course they do, how else can CC companies give them credit cards 12:11 < RangerZ1> lol 12:12 <@aestetix> wait 12:12 <@aestetix> that doesn't make sense 12:12 <@Evilpig> lol "btw there's an addon out there that allows people to download the raw image straight from data.tu...com and that costs us a shitload, we need to shut that down" 12:12 <@oddball> The problem is that student loans would be very high risk if the loan wasn't super-ultra-protected. Giving someone a loan to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars before they've shown that they can, you know, pull in an income that will pay for it is not terribly smart. 12:12 <@aestetix> how does an 18 year old get credit? they have no credit card, and I'm guessing they don't have a mortgage 12:13 < RangerZ1> aestetix: you 'start' with a credit score of 600 12:13 <@aestetix> oddball: agreed, which is why the state should subsidize education, like they did when the boomers were in school. 12:13 < RangerZ1> IIRC 12:13 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: how do you "start"? 12:14 < RangerZ1> turn 18 12:14 <@aestetix> Do the credit card companies all get a list of people who have turned 18? 12:14 < RangerZ1> it is in CC company's best inerests to START people down the CC hole 12:14 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yes 12:14 < RangerZ1> they buy the info from data-brokers 12:14 <@aestetix> ahhh 12:14 < RangerZ1> or from school districts 12:14 < RangerZ1> same as schools 12:15 <@aestetix> from school districts? 12:15 <@oddball> And they love to hand cards out to college kids, because they know that there's a rather good chance that the kid's parents will pay the bill. 12:15 < RangerZ1> same as colleges/trade schools*8* 12:15 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yeah univ/college sell that info to 12:15 <@oddball> Hell, the razor companies knew when I turned 16. I got a couple free razors in the mail. 12:15 <@aestetix> 1. I am glad I've never had a credit card 2. that sounds like snake oil sales tactics 12:16 < RangerZ1> aestetix: all tactics are snake oil tactics when it comes to capitalism 12:16 < RangerZ1> lol 12:16 <@aestetix> you mean when it comes to american capitalism 12:16 < RangerZ1> no, to 'capitalism' 12:17 <@oddball> Everyone running everything off of credit is actually a fairly recent thing. 12:17 <@aestetix> oddball: yep 12:17 <@aestetix> oddball: I think it's new as of the last 20 years 12:17 < RangerZ1> oddball: because you can't 'exponential' growth otherwise, and our entire economy is based off the concept that you NEED exponential growth 12:18 < RangerZ1> no, its not 'that' new 12:18 <@oddball> That's the secret behind the stuff that Dave Ramsey and whoever that financial guy in Atlanta teach. They're just repeating what folks did when their parents were running things. 12:18 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: you know what else grows exponentially? cancer 12:19 < RangerZ1> s/cancer/O(N^2) algorithms 12:19 < RangerZ1> lol 12:19 <@aestetix> well ok 12:19 <@oddball> Stores used to do layaway for expensive items instead of buying on credit. 12:19 < RangerZ1> oddball: and I'm glad to see that its come back to the big box stores 12:19 <@oddball> A few still do. Oddly enough, it's damned common for gun shops to offer layaway. 12:20 < RangerZ1> oddball: its come back to most big stores now 12:20 < RangerZ1> all the 'big box' stores now i think have it again 12:20 < RangerZ1> came back in like 2012 or something 12:20 <@oddball> Really? I know Walmart advertises that they will for Christmas, but I didn't know any of the others that did. 12:20 < RangerZ1> yeah 12:20 <@oddball> I approve 12:21 < RangerZ1> walmart started advertising it, and then the rest domino'd 12:21 < RangerZ1> the only reason I noticed, was b/c mom was talking about it (for her work) 12:21 <@oddball> It is more expensive for the stores for them to do layaway, but it's a lot better for the customer. 12:21 <@aestetix> RIP Spock :/ 12:22 < RangerZ1> :/ 12:22 <@oddball> aestetix: Well fuck, I knew he was in the hospital. 12:22 <@aestetix> Yeah. I knew his time was limited. 12:25 < RangerZ1> well he lived long , and was prosperous 12:25 < RangerZ1> .... I'm sorry.... 12:27 <@aestetix> the feels :/ 12:30 <@Evilpig> allteam meeting just ground to a halt to get an update on where ja rule is 12:31 <@oddball> So... so far this year, I buried a friend, buried the father of my oldest friend, my TKD instructor's dog is being put to sleep this weekend, another friend's father jsut died, and Nemoy dies... yep. This year is fucking fired. 12:45 < RangerZ2> you know that J R R Martin went to the hospital yesterday too? 12:45 <@aestetix> so why is it that spock dies and billy graham is still alive 12:46 < RangerZ2> mind you he was signing books, but just the thought of that scares a lot of people, lol 12:46 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: fuck you 12:46 * oddball kicks RangerZ1 in the shin 12:46 <@aestetix> wait 12:47 -!- RangerZ1 was kicked from #se2600 by aestetix [RangerZ1] 12:47 <@aestetix> yes! 12:47 <@aestetix> he totally deserved that 12:47 <@aestetix> oh wait I kicked the wrong one 12:47 <@oddball> Fucking clones. 12:48 <@oddball> aestetix: Not sure if you've seen this yet (sfw): http://gizmodo.com/finally-a-wearable-that-lets-you-charge-your-gadgets-b-1688232359?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow 12:48 < PigBot`> Title: Finally: A Wearable That Lets You Charge Your Gadgets by Jerking Off (at gizmodo.com) 12:48 <@oddball> wait... there's a video... that video may not be sfw. 12:48 <@oddball> Ah, Gizmodo says SFW, so... probably safe. 12:49 < RangerZ2> pornhub LOVES making SFW videos 12:49 < RangerZ2> to taunt people 12:49 < RangerZ2> lol 12:51 <@oddball> Realizing it's a joke, but I'm actually kind of surprised that no one has built something like that already. 12:52 <@oddball> I mean, I'm sure that the spinning weight that's used in automatic mechanical watches could be set up to turn a tiny generator instead. Sure, it won't be much per turn, but... 12:54 <@oddball> I know a bunch of us have refered to them as android dicks, but... uh... http://www.dailydot.com/lol/florida-man-allegedly-vapes-semen-on-video-nsfw/ 12:54 < PigBot`> Title: Florida man allegedly vapes his friends semen on video (at www.dailydot.com) 12:55 <@oddball> (article sfw, not sure I'd follow any links, though) 12:55 <@aestetix> hey look YC funded another stupid widget 12:55 <@aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/27/yc-backed-yesgraph-raises-a-million-to-build-a-better-referral-system-for-mobile-apps/ 12:55 < PigBot`> Title: YC-Backed YesGraph Raises A Million To Build A Better Referral System For Mobile Apps | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com) 12:56 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1c3AElOzM mind you it is 'polygon' video, but thankfully they don't talk, so that helps, lol 12:56 < PigBot`> Title: 24 minutes of gameplay from Xenoblade Chronicles 3D - Polygon Previews - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 12:59 < Synx|hm_> whats unemployment here? $? 12:59 < Synx|hm_> too lazy to google 13:00 < Synx|hm_> $275 per week jesus 13:07 <@aestetix> here enjoy 13:08 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoytrHE821o&feature=youtu.be 13:08 < PigBot`> Title: The UFO guy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:20 < RangerZ2> Synx|hm_: the max unemployement you can get is like 450$/week or something like that, based on previous earnings 13:26 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z-j_5auiOM 13:26 < PigBot`> Title: DirectX 12 Can Combine Nvidia and AMD Cards - GS News Update - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:27 < RangerZ2> nvidia just cried out at their HQ 13:27 < Synx|hm_> god damn it amazon 13:27 < Synx|hm_> i ordered a radio and got a different model 13:28 < Synx|hm_> i overnighted it too because im going on a long trip on sunday 13:29 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: you back in the states? 13:31 < RangerZ2> he's in greater nashville, for everyone other than you... for you he's in the middle east ;) 13:32 < RangerZ2> lol 13:34 <@Evilpig> cute housekeeper girl is here today. I wonder if she knows she has a hole in the back of her jeans 13:35 <@aestetix> lol 13:35 <@aestetix> I just got my new ipad (last apple product I am ever buying) 13:35 <@aestetix> I bricked it within 10 minutes of getting it :p 13:36 <@Catonic> intentionally? 13:36 <@aestetix> I was trying to back it up 13:36 <@oddball> That's impressive 13:36 <@aestetix> I'm recovering it now 13:36 <@aestetix> I hope 13:36 <@Catonic> well, if you just got it... kick the crypto on then back it up. 13:37 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@ip-64-134-125-129.public.wayport.net] has joined #se2600 13:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 13:37 <@aestetix> (ipads are really nice for taking to conferences) 13:37 <@aestetix> unless they are bricked :p 13:39 <@Evilpig> don't brick it then. 13:41 <@aestetix> that said, I managed to buy it at a discounted price 13:41 <@aestetix> 1. refurbished 2. right before apple watch comes out 13:43 < RangerZ2> so... 13:43 < RangerZ2> to break everyone's "feels" 13:43 < RangerZ2> https://twitter.com/TheRealNimoy/status/569762773204217857 13:43 < PigBot`> Title: Leonard Nimoy on Twitter: "A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" (at twitter.com) 13:43 < RangerZ2> his last tweet 13:45 < RangerZ2> https://twitter.com/andrewheiss/status/571368538226757632 13:45 < PigBot`> Title: Andrew Heiss on Twitter: "Um, guys. https://t.co/DGAhauBCwY #LLAP http://t.co/7IOlf3ljVs" (at twitter.com) 13:49 <@aestetix> for his bday, someone should make Corydon penis popsicles that have little chocholate chips on them 13:51 <@Evilpig> movie time. later bitches 13:51 <@aestetix> what movie 13:52 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:18 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3v4rIG8kQA so google wants to buy ALL of north bayshore and then eventually oakland... and turn it into a giant city-campus.... 14:18 < PigBot`> Title: Googles Proposal for North Bayshore - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:19 < RangerZ1> (maybe only a 'little' bit of trolling in that) ;) 14:31 <@oddball> Now *that* is gentrification! 14:38 <@aestetix> .. 14:40 <@Catonic> early for 4/1 14:40 <@Catonic> It's not intergalatic civil war? 14:41 < RangerZ1> Catonic: not today, you can go back into hibernation 14:41 <@aestetix> god I hate noises 14:41 < RangerZ1> get active noise canceling headphones 14:41 <@aestetix> those hurt if you wear them for a long time 14:41 < RangerZ1> umm no 14:42 < RangerZ1> that means you got a pair that wasn't fitted properly 14:42 < dfused> quit taking it in the ear and they wont be so sensitive 14:42 <@Catonic> aestetix: otoh, they are the only headphone with real isolation 14:42 < RangerZ1> dfused: how else will he earn his german passport? 14:42 <@Catonic> alternatively, get a pair of drummer's headphones. Those truly have isolation. 14:43 < RangerZ1> or build the setup that daredevil uses to sleep from the comics/movies 14:43 < RangerZ1> lol 14:43 <@Catonic> But a pair of Koss PRO/4AAs or a David Clark headset will mash the mofranky out of your head. 14:43 < RangerZ1> noise canceling room, water isolation chamber in the middle, on shock absorbers, etc 14:44 <@Catonic> "Sonex" 14:44 <@oddball> oh goody... Holder has decided to give BATFE the power of civil forfeiture. 14:45 * Catonic grumbles and mumbles 14:45 <@oddball> Because forcing them to get the DEA or someone else involved to do it for them is apparently too much work to steal stuff-I mean "fight the war on drugs." 14:46 < RangerZ1> god I can't wait for that nonsense to be over with 14:47 < RangerZ1> i still think druggies are retarded, but whatever, let them do what they want as long as they aren't stealing from others, or harming others, and the people they are buying it from aren't armed and having turf wars 14:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@ip-64-134-125-129.public.wayport.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49 <@oddball> Oh, I see civil farfeiture as much more black and white. No one can deny that the government taking your stuff is not doing you harm/penalizing you. I can't see how that's remotely constitutional without due process. 14:52 <@Catonic> oddball: I am not gruntled. 14:52 < Synx|hm_> oh you mean all the cop cars that sit out on 40 west bound 14:52 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: exactly. 14:53 < Synx|hm_> the ones that pull people over with out of state tags ask how much money they are carying and then just say, that must be drug money give it all to us 14:53 <@Catonic> drugs go north... but stop the cash going south. 14:53 < Synx|hm_> ya FUCK THOSE GUYS 14:53 <@Catonic> or... they could just seize the drugs, hand them over to the CIA, and split the profits like Iran-Contra. 14:53 < Synx|hm_> id rather that 14:54 < Synx|hm_> at least they get the actual shit and not some rando's money who has no idea what is going on and just wanted to help his aunt in tx pay her medical bills 14:55 <@oddball> Synx|hm_: yep 14:55 < Synx|hm_> every two months i drive that way 14:55 < Synx|hm_> never fails, loads of blacked out suv unmarked police who i assume are on the drug taskforce out there 14:56 < Synx|hm_> all facing westbound traffic 14:56 < Synx|hm_> i cant wait for the day they pull me over because i have out of state tags im going to give them a piece of my mind 14:56 <@oddball> Or, you know... they find a guy with "a suspicious amount of cash/nice stuff" on him, take it, and then tell him "if you want it back, you need to prove that you legally obtained it." 14:56 <@oddball> Which is completely dirty pool, legally speaking. 14:56 < Synx|hm_> oddball: you see the john oliver ep about it from last season? 14:57 <@oddball> I know he did a piece on it. Don't remember if I watched it or not. 14:57 < Synx|hm_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks 14:57 < PigBot`> Title: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeiture (HBO) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:57 <@oddball> It's been something that some folks have been screaming about for years. 14:57 < Synx|hm_> well worth the watch 14:57 < Synx|hm_> its actually about the i40 issue 14:58 <@oddball> And it seems to pop up with the mainstream folks whenever it's a slow news day. People are shocked and outraged for... about 5 minutes... then decide "well, I'm not a drug dealer, so it won't happen to *me*" and forget about it. 14:58 <@oddball> You know, like no-knock raids. 14:59 <@oddball> Which I think is another wonderful product of our war on drugs. 15:00 < Synx|hm_> whats the john oliver, he even reports on what some police stations have purchased with that money 15:00 < Synx|hm_> somebody apparantly purchased a zamboni 15:00 <@oddball> I believe it. 15:01 <@oddball> And $2.4k is not a huge amount of money. 15:02 <@oddball> Hell, there's a high chance of multiple folks carrying that much cash at the gun shows I go to. 15:02 < Synx|hm_> yup, but hey if they are headed south west it must be drug money, no need to prove it just take it 15:02 <@oddball> right 15:03 < Synx|hm_> fuck one guy even had proof he was going to buy a car with the cash 15:03 < Synx|hm_> on that note... i went into the lavergn police station this week 15:03 < Synx|hm_> had to get fingerprinted 15:03 <@oddball> carry permit? 15:03 < Synx|hm_> i walked out of there with a officer signed finger print card with none of my info filled in, only thing on there was his signature and my fingerprints 15:04 < Synx|hm_> i could have written mickey fucking mouse as the name on there and sent them off 15:04 < Synx|hm_> naw for work 15:04 <@oddball> ah 15:09 < RangerZ1> oh jesus... new study.... only 9% of republicans say that obama is a chrisitian 15:10 <@oddball> Is this another "but we only polled 100 people" survey? 15:10 < RangerZ1> no 15:10 <@oddball> link? 15:10 < RangerZ1> full UC Merced 15:11 < RangerZ1> its a slightly different poll question 15:11 < RangerZ1> its 'deep down' what is he, not what he 'claims' to be 15:11 < RangerZ1> lol 15:11 < Synx|hm_> i heard he was a muslam from nigeria 15:11 < RangerZ1> http://www.vox.com/2015/2/25/8108005/obama-muslim-poll 15:11 <@oddball> ah... these are folks that probably don't think that Catholics are Christian. 15:11 < Synx|hm_> err mooslam 15:12 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm_: I dated a mooslam, her family raised dairy cattle 15:12 < Synx|hm_> haha 15:12 < RangerZ1> she didn't like it when I made that joke, lol 15:12 < RangerZ1> or when I told her that she had just eaten veal... 15:13 < RangerZ1> but hey... baby cow tastes so good in meatballs... lol 15:14 <@CRasH180> I thought veal was baby lambs 15:15 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veal 15:15 < PigBot`> Title: Veal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 15:16 < RangerZ1> The meat of sheep 6 to 10 weeks old is usually sold as baby lamb, and spring lamb is from sheep of five to six months. 15:17 < RangerZ1> Lamb, hogget, and mutton (UK, India, South Africa, Canada, New Zealand and Australia)[1] are terms for the meat of domestic sheep (species Ovis aries) at different ages. A sheep in its first year is called a lamb; and its meat is also called lamb. 15:17 < RangerZ1> The meat of a juvenile sheep older than one year is hogget; outside North America this is also a term for the living animal.[2] The meat of an adult sheep is mutton 15:17 < RangerZ1> from wiki 15:19 <@oddball> Speaking of stupid "how the hell is this constitutional" things... Feinstein has apparently re-introduced a bill to forbid folks that are on the terror watch list from owning guns. 15:19 < RangerZ1> that'll do no good, we should just ban the export of weapons 15:19 <@oddball> You know... that list that they refuse to let people see who's on, won't tell you how they got there, or how someone can get off it? 15:20 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Nah, the ATF has too good of a deal with Mexico trading guns for drugs. 15:22 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:24 <@rhia> oddball, now, now, that was simply a track & release program to study the habits of guns "in the wild" 15:25 <@Catonic> rhia: that's why they had radio tracker transmitters attached, right? Oh, they didn't?! 15:26 <@rhia> Catonic, pff, details, details.... 15:26 <@oddball> Yeah... they forgot the whole "track" part. 15:27 <@rhia> bureaucracies ... so they forgot one little thing 15:35 <@Catonic> "Hey Boss, remember that 'Project Gunrunner' thing you had me work on? I... kinda forgot to order the radios until the last minute so they didn't come in in time to put them in the guns so... we're gonna have to track serial numbers instead." 15:39 < RangerZ1> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_1_ti_1?rh=i%3Atradein-aps%2Ck%3AB00DBF829C&keywords=B00DBF829C&ie=UTF8&qid=1425069552&sr=8-1-ti 15:39 < RangerZ1> LOL, thats amusing, they already have tradein values for a game that doesn't even yet have a release date 15:40 < RangerZ1> [Final Fantasy XV - PlayStation 4] since it didn't say it 15:53 -!- klixa-cloud_ [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmhqleuvptvdhits] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- klixa-cloud_ is now known as klixa-cloud 15:57 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmhqleuvptvdhits] has quit [Changing host] 15:57 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 15:57 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Changing host] 15:57 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmhqleuvptvdhits] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by wilhelm.freenode.net 16:04 < RangerZ1> anyone bought a vizio tv ? 16:04 < RangerZ1> how are they? I know they are the #1 selling brand (b/c of being cheap) 16:05 < RangerZ1> I know to stay away from coby 16:05 < RangerZ1> MFers 16:05 <@aestetix> so if refurbed apple products are the same thing as a new one 16:05 <@aestetix> why the fuck would anyone buy new stuff 16:05 <@aestetix> it's so much chepaer 16:06 < RangerZ1> because they aren't spending the money themselves 16:06 < RangerZ1> and just want new 16:06 < RangerZ1> ie: from project budget 16:06 < RangerZ1> etc 16:06 <@aestetix> you mean it's credit card, work, or parents? 16:07 < RangerZ1> I could have a brand new mac laptop ordered for me tomorrow if I wanted 16:07 < RangerZ1> I just don't 16:07 < RangerZ1> lol 16:07 < RangerZ1> my HP elitebook that is 4 years old is still a beast comparatively 16:07 < RangerZ1> (also work laptop) 16:07 <@oddball> My mom had a Vizio blueray player. We threw it out because it sucked monkey balls. No idea about their TVs. 16:07 <@aestetix> I don't see the appeal in this brand new shit every year 16:07 <@aestetix> My laptop is like 6 years old and works fine 16:08 < RangerZ1> aestetix: its b/c you aren't involved in high tech community 16:08 < RangerZ1> ;) 16:08 <@aestetix> lol 16:08 < RangerZ1> thats sorta a joke, but sorta not 16:08 <@aestetix> it's because I run software that isn't fucking bloated and proprietary 16:08 < RangerZ1> you don't keep up with appearances 16:08 <@aestetix> that's because I don't view tech as a fashion statement 16:09 < RangerZ1> thats your problem 16:09 < RangerZ1> not apple's 16:09 < RangerZ1> lol 16:11 < RangerZ1> wait...wtf... I don't actually need a TV 16:11 < RangerZ1> i just need a monitor with speakers 16:11 < RangerZ1> lol 16:14 < RangerZ1> PSA: [Beginning February 28, local phone providers will require phone users in Middle Tennessee to dial the entire ten-digit number when making evan a local call, in preparation for the addition of the 629 area code in late March, 2015.] 16:30 < RangerZ1> fuck best buy's website 16:30 < RangerZ1> and walmart's website is telling me the only store locally with TVs is.... a neighborhood market 16:31 <@aestetix> my god 16:31 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3v4rIG8kQA this link 16:31 < PigBot`> Title: Googles Proposal for North Bayshore - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 16:31 <@aestetix> it's sad how naive they are 16:31 < RangerZ1> huh? 16:31 < RangerZ1> why are they naive? 16:32 <@aestetix> they basically said they want to turn google into an urban center 16:32 < RangerZ1> their campus basically 'is' 16:32 <@aestetix> and allow people who are not google employtees to use it 16:32 < RangerZ1> did they? 16:32 <@aestetix> yes 16:32 <@aestetix> I wonder who will then enforce the social code 16:33 < RangerZ1> then its just PR bs, b/c they don't really mean that, they mean the outside part of it 16:33 < RangerZ1> and perhaps 'inside' the 'dome' 16:33 < RangerZ1> but not inside the 'tinker toy' buildings inside 16:33 <@aestetix> around 5:30 16:34 <@aestetix> I think a question to ask is 16:34 <@aestetix> if Google feels they need to do this, why isn't there a place like it already? 16:35 < RangerZ1> b/c the bay area is a geographic joke 16:35 < RangerZ1> like 5sq miles of usable land for the entire region 16:35 < RangerZ1> lol 16:35 < RangerZ1> being extreme, but still, you get my point 16:35 < RangerZ1> and if you look at what they show, and say, its 'outside' the complex 16:35 < RangerZ1> having retail on site 16:35 < RangerZ1> to allow people to never to have to leave 16:35 < RangerZ1> etc 16:36 < RangerZ1> just an extension of what they have now 16:37 < RangerZ1> http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-boyfriends-who-arent-speaking-are-thinking-a,38101/ 16:37 < PigBot`> Title: Study: Boyfriends Who Aren’t Speaking Are Thinking About Ending Relationship 90% Of Time | The Onion - America's Finest News Source (at www.theonion.com) 16:41 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48 <@klixa-cloud> SF used to be a redwood forest :/ 16:48 <@klixa-cloud> the bay sucks; LA is sooooo much better 16:50 <@klixa-cloud> aestetix: why aren't you in Berlin yet? 16:51 <@aestetix> klixa-cloud: I leave in I think 28 days 16:51 <@klixa-cloud> cool 16:51 <@klixa-cloud> that's when I go to San Diego or portland... not sure yet 16:51 <@klixa-cloud> I hope San Diego 16:52 <@benthemeek> http://goo.gl/3qQbM6 16:52 < PigBot`> Title: 2600 Board minutes 2015 02 26 - Google Docs (at goo.gl) 16:54 < dfused> In memory of Mr. Nimoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGF5ROpjRAU 16:54 < PigBot`> Title: Leonard Nimoy - The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins [FULL VERSION] - best quality - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 16:54 <@klixa-cloud> what exactly is the purpise of 2600? it seems it's just the phreaknic planning community. is tech ever talked about 16:55 < ware> community circle jerk for social rejects and homosexuals 16:56 <@klixa-cloud> I know a social reject who wants to go but he might even be more of a reject than the others 16:56 < ware> they will fit right in 16:56 <@klixa-cloud> lol 16:57 <@klixa-cloud> a are there many homosexuals there? 16:58 < ware> usually 17:00 <@klixa-cloud> what are you? homo or social reject? 17:13 <@Dagmar> ware neeeds to meet Amber 17:13 <@aestetix> god I hate the US 17:15 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:15 <@CRasH180> Umm, I bow out of the community circle jerk and homosexual portion of kilxa's statement 17:16 <@CRasH180> not my thing 17:21 <@klixa> @CRasH180: it wasnt *my* statement 17:21 < PigBot`> klixa: Error: "CRasH180:" is not a valid command. 17:21 <@klixa> @CRasH180 it wasnt my statement 17:21 <@klixa> it was ware's statment 17:21 <@CRasH180> ahh 17:22 <@CRasH180> well, whoever said it. My statement is still true 17:22 <@klixa> k :) we will make a record of it 17:22 <@CRasH180> heh, good to know 17:22 <@klixa> @CRasH180; not a circle jerking homo 17:22 < PigBot`> klixa: Error: "CRasH180;" is not a valid command. 17:23 <@klixa> that @ on yoru name makes pigbot treat it as a command unles i put a space 17:23 <@CRasH180> hmm 17:25 <@klixa> is that showing up in chan or jsut for me? 17:25 <@klixa> "[15:22:51] klixa: Error: "CRasH180;" is not a valid command." 17:25 <@CRasH180> I saw it 17:26 <@CRasH180> You typed in " @CRasH180; not a circle jerking homo" 17:26 <@CRasH180> and then it appeared 17:26 <@CRasH180> klixa: Error: "CRasH180;" is not a valid command. 17:26 <@klixa> ok 17:26 <@klixa> im an idiot 17:26 <@klixa> i just realised the @ is the op sign 17:26 <@CRasH180> CRasH180 is not a command 17:27 <@CRasH180> :) 18:15 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 18:34 <@Shadow404> its fun having an alt nick on twitter to troll stuff. Like when a certain contest thinks that crowd voting will be easily controlled by tracking unique IP hits/likes 18:43 < RangerZ2> Shadow404: you tweet a lot on your troll acount: anarchival 18:45 <@aestetix> Shadow404: how's the asshole? 18:52 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 18:52 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-67-235.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:05 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:05 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:16 <@Mirage> Evilpig: How do you not have this.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1508661/ 19:16 < PigBot`> Title: Dead Hooker in a Trunk (2009) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 19:17 <@oddball> How do *I* not know of this movie?! 19:22 < RangerZ2> it was a secret taping of you and notlarry from a few years ago 19:24 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0SkSG22Kzw HAHAHA 19:24 < PigBot`> Title: Is Settlers of Catan About to Be Warped in a TV Show/Movie? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:30 <@Shadow404> aestetix: stfu 19:30 <@Shadow404> RangerZ2: heh, if only 19:38 <@Evilpig> Mirage: lol I dunno. I'm surprised often at shit I don't have that I figure I do 19:38 <@Evilpig> or should 19:40 < RangerZ2> NSFW things that can not be unseen warning 19:40 < RangerZ2> https://twitter.com/anarchival/status/571468924803534848 19:40 < PigBot`> Title: anarchival on Twitter: "I dont like sex. I dont like men. I dont want to be required to hand my body over in order to survive, as countless others have had to." (at twitter.com) 19:40 < RangerZ2> NSFW things that can not be unseen warning 19:41 <@aestetix> ..... 19:41 <@aestetix> what the fuck 19:42 <@aestetix> RangerZ2: you should send her a horse dildo in the mail 19:42 < RangerZ2> fuck no 19:42 <@aestetix> put Dagmar as the return address 19:42 < RangerZ2> I'm never going to give her something as nice as that for her 19:42 < RangerZ2> she might threaten others with it 19:42 < RangerZ2> as she has done in the past 19:42 < RangerZ2> publicly 19:43 <@Shadow404> oh, put NL on the return address 19:43 <@Shadow404> .... 19:43 <@Shadow404> kidding 19:43 <@aestetix> haha 19:43 <@aestetix> ok so find someone who you think needs to get threatened 19:43 <@aestetix> and put them on the return address 19:43 < RangerZ2> no 19:43 < RangerZ2> you send her flowers and chocolates with dru on the return address 19:43 <@aestetix> Shadow404: you can send her one of your butt plugs 19:44 < RangerZ2> also... dru is getting a 'verbal warning' for delaying the writing of his homework report 19:44 < RangerZ2> next month when he hasn't turned one in... will be interesting 19:45 <@Shadow404> aestetix: used or new? 19:45 <@Shadow404> RangerZ2: i have suspicions that dru already is couring 19:45 <@Shadow404> in some fashion 19:45 <@Shadow404> *courting 19:47 <@aestetix> whichever is appropriate 19:50 <@Shadow404> aestetix: if i have a panel on bdsm with a couple of my community friends there and you show up, are you gonna be a complete ass or not? 19:50 <@Shadow404> serious question.....as this is something im in discussions atm for 19:50 <@Shadow404> and your behavior came up 19:52 < RangerZ2> Shadow404: do you mean : is he going to your ass for demonstration? (gagged and all?) ...OR... he will be annoying, etc? 19:52 <@Shadow404> annoying 19:52 <@Shadow404> and immatute 19:52 <@Shadow404> *immature 19:52 <@Shadow404> and disrespectful 19:52 < RangerZ2> think #1 is the only way to stop #2 19:52 < RangerZ2> lol 19:52 <@Shadow404> or number 3, my fist--->>>his face 19:58 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: that isn't even a consideration with their CoC 19:58 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: this is aestetix, not exactly an individual that will follow dictacted rules 19:59 <@Shadow404> actually quite the oppisite, an individual which will piss all over them for his own entertainment, with no concern for those that are affected 19:59 <@Evilpig> I'm saying with their rules what you're proposing won't even come close to flying 20:00 <@Shadow404> no, elonka gave the go ahead and im preparing the CFP proposal 20:00 <@Shadow404> im bypassing dru due to communication failures 20:01 <@Evilpig> saying submit a request is a far way away from "oh yeah we'll seriously consider it" 20:01 <@Evilpig> and even further from putting it on a schedule 20:01 <@Mirage> Shadow404: can something not even initiated be constituted as a failure? 20:01 <@Shadow404> meh, im not gonna put more than a few hours of my life into the proposal, if they accept it, ill solidify my comments and actually put effort into ironing it out 20:02 <@Shadow404> Mirage: more explanation? 20:02 <@Shadow404> not sure where your going with this? 20:02 < RangerZ2> Mirage: does Evilpig's attempt at hitting on women in NYC count? b/c it failed before it even started 20:02 <@Mirage> Shadow404: can it be called a failure in communication if it was never initiated/attempted/intended in the first place? 20:03 * RangerZ2 feels bad for that one 20:03 <@Evilpig> RangerZ2: why'd you have to limit it to NYC? 20:03 <@Mirage> RangerZ2: What does NYC have to do with it, that's true everywhere 20:03 < RangerZ2> ... 20:03 < RangerZ2> lol 20:03 <@Evilpig> I'm just saying, if you're going there go all the way 20:04 <@Shadow404> RangerZ2: maybe, but i guess context would play a major role in that definition 20:05 < RangerZ2> wrong person reply, lol 20:05 < RangerZ2> but yeah 20:06 <@Mirage> RangerZ2: At least (thanks to ) he spelled RangerZ2 roperly..=) 20:06 <@Mirage> s/roperly/properly 20:06 <@Shadow404> meh, no thats a change of screen focus 20:06 <@Shadow404> error on my part 20:06 <@Shadow404> not tab 20:06 <@Shadow404> anywho, but yeah, mirage, per above is my reply to yours 20:07 <@Mirage> Shadow404: so you typed out RangerZ2 properly all by yourself? 20:07 <@Shadow404> no, i have a side convo going about something entirely different 20:07 <@Shadow404> alt tabbed back with rangerz already typed out and without thinkking replied to you without checking if i cleared the last line 20:07 <@Mirage> Did Dru ever really send out a call for papers last year, or did he just bank on being able to get people from DragonCon to come to PN w/ the same or similar talks? 20:08 <@Shadow404> yes, he did, but last minute 20:08 <@Shadow404> i think it was 2 weeks MAX 20:08 * Mirage doesn't recall seeing it. 20:08 < RangerZ2> it was <30 days out IIRC 20:08 < RangerZ2> it wasn't emailed 20:08 < RangerZ2> it was just on the site 20:08 <@Shadow404> yep 20:08 <@Shadow404> i only remember from Evilpig stating finally cfp was posted 20:09 <@Shadow404> cause he was giving daily updates sarcastic commentary on the state of events 20:09 <@Mirage> Shadow404: aka being Evilpig 20:09 <@Shadow404> YEP! 20:09 <@Shadow404> but we all love the pig 20:10 <@Shadow404> other than his ex's 20:10 < RangerZ2> so b/c republicans refuse to bring something to a vote if it doesn't get 50%+ of the republican votes.... DHS gets defunded in 3:50:00 20:10 <@Shadow404> damn and some nasa budgets too 20:10 <@Shadow404> wallops halts repairs in the same timeline 20:10 <@oddball> Because everyone loves cutting NASA's budget. 20:10 <@Shadow404> oddball: sad but true 20:10 < RangerZ2> Shadow404: b/c he doesn't want to be doing work without being paid 20:10 <@Mirage> There will be a bit more public outcry regarding NASA than DHS 20:10 < RangerZ2> lol 20:11 <@Shadow404> Mirage: as it should be 20:11 <@Dagmar> I just replied to anarchivals dumbass "i want attention" tweet 20:11 <@Shadow404> can i too? 20:11 <@Shadow404> er, i can 20:11 <@Shadow404> standby 20:12 <@Mirage> There's no sport in taunting her..I just don't see the point. 20:13 <@Shadow404> er....it feels good for a few secs? 20:13 < RangerZ2> leave dru's and crazypants's car rides home out of this 20:14 <@Shadow404> heh 20:15 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: got my own in there 20:16 <@Mirage> Dagmar: just look for the response w/ the most typo..wait, twitter, nm 20:16 <@Shadow404> Mirage: ++, ill give you points for that 20:17 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ2: We won't have to wait a month for shit to hit the fan regarding dru's tardiness. 20:18 <@Dagmar> She's just hoping for attention from the rest of the special snowflake committee, who would just fall out of their chairs in shock if they had any idea what kind of a toxic person they were dealing with 20:18 < _NSAKEY> The deadline for the PN report is this Monday. 20:18 < _NSAKEY> That means it will probably be a topic of the next meeting. 20:18 <@Shadow404> good 20:18 <@Shadow404> i say your missing one big part of the group rules 20:18 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Is that the report that Dru keeps missing the deadline for? 20:19 <@Shadow404> if an officer fails to provide a report on a scheduled basis, after so many times, can be removed from office via a vote 20:19 <@Mirage> oddball: yeah. It's the in the board minutes posted on google+ 20:20 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I'd take that as a threat. I'm pretty sure she intends to bed you 20:20 <@oddball> Yep... think that was a declaration of love 20:21 <@oddball> Shadow404: Eh, basically an officer can be removed if the board gets tired of his shit. 20:21 <@Mirage> Evilpig: 'Precogniton' isn't anything like I expected. 20:21 < _NSAKEY> oddball: One of them. 20:21 <@Evilpig> Mirage: but it wasn't horrible 20:21 <@Shadow404> oddball: but you need it in txt 20:22 < _NSAKEY> The minutes just mention "report," it doesn't say which one. 20:22 <@Shadow404> oh, btw, notice how aestetix got real quiet after i put him on the spot 20:22 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure I have a really solid oak door that can keep her out 20:22 <@Mirage> Evilpig: 'Open Windows' was pretty horrible, though. 20:22 < _NSAKEY> Shadow404: aestetix is a baby troll. He gets quiet over the tiniest thing. 20:22 <@oddball> Shadow404: The board has the power to remove any officer at any time with through a vote. That's in the bylaws. 20:22 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Are you sure you don't mean 'Predestination'? 20:23 <@Evilpig> Mirage: have you checked out horns? 20:23 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Yeah. I just finished reencoding it to watch it. 20:23 <@Shadow404> oddball: what about paying members? 20:23 <@Shadow404> in the case the board has to much power 20:23 <@Dagmar> It's probably the most elaborate masturbation joke ever made 20:23 <@Mirage> Evilpig: no...I'm not sure I want to waste my time on Horns 20:24 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Horns was "okay" 20:24 <@Evilpig> it's quite comical 20:24 <@oddball> Currently, paying members can only remove officers via the yearly election. 20:24 <@Shadow404> oddball: in a year a whole org can be destoryed 20:24 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Oh, here's a bad movie for you. Watched it on Netflix. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1924273 20:24 < PigBot`> Title: Promoción fantasma (2012) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 20:24 <@Shadow404> with people ineffective (dru) or destructive (skydog) people 20:25 <@oddball> And there's currently no mechanism to remove a board member, which is something that is supposed to be addressed this year. 20:25 <@Mirage> I find it humorous that all the dialogue is spanish, but the music is english 20:25 <@Shadow404> oddball: good, your on the right track 20:25 <@oddball> Shadow404: I agree. And, frankly, if the membership had enough folks that didn't have their heads up their asses, Dru would not have been re-elected this year. 20:25 <@Mirage> oddball: it wasn't a pressing issue before since there weren't really any board members 20:26 <@Evilpig> a movie I have to read? wtf are you trying to sell me? 20:26 <@Mirage> Evilpig: it's still funny. 20:26 <@oddball> Shadow404: Oh, that's part of "Hurricane Elonka" coming to town. 20:26 <@Evilpig> damnit! my cookies are so close 20:26 <@Evilpig> http://wwwapps.ups.com/etracking/tracking.cgi?submit=Track&InquiryNumber1=1Z82W131P260931442&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T 20:26 < PigBot`> Title: UPS: Tracking Information (at wwwapps.ups.com) 20:26 <@Shadow404> oddball: i think she will be very positive and sane 20:27 <@Mirage> Evilpig: We got a little over 2" of snow today, so I came home and made some stew 20:27 <@oddball> I was fairly serious when I said that I didn't want to be a board member (at least at the moment). I'm still trying to decide if I still want to be part of the group. 20:27 <@Mirage> stew + beer + fireplace = good times. 20:27 <@Evilpig> snow? how the hell? arent you in TX? 20:27 <@Evilpig> did you move north and not tell anyone? 20:27 <@Mirage> It happens 20:27 <@Mirage> Just not normally 20:27 < RangerZ2> Evilpig: the north part of the state is basically Oklahoma, and it snows there 20:27 <@oddball> Shadow404: Oh, hell yes. And she's someone that Dru can't ignore. 20:28 <@rhia> we saw more snow in Dallas than we have in Seattle 20:28 <@oddball> She's proposed several things that a number of us have been screaming, but we're of the unclean set. 20:28 <@Mirage> rhia: I've always been told by ppl who lived there that winters in Seattle are much more mild than would be expected because of location 20:29 <@Evilpig> oddball: the last email she sent out asking for shit I responded to her with it and pointed out all teh shit she's creating already existed until it was destroyed last year 20:30 <@oddball> pretty much 20:30 <@oddball> I didn't realize we took the bath that we apparently did last year. 20:30 <@oddball> (2013) 20:30 <@Evilpig> i am kinda curious on the numbers from 2013 though. something weird 20:30 <@Evilpig> I paid in over 1000 that year myself 20:31 <@Evilpig> I looked in my checkbook to confirm it 20:31 <@Mirage> Evilpig: VU paid you too much 20:32 <@Evilpig> vandy didn't pay me much at all 20:32 <@Evilpig> I set aside money all year for that 20:34 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j90d6amflch7ry2/2015-02-27%2020.31.55.jpg?dl=0 20:36 < RangerZ2> Mirage: they all made ~2x Grad student pay... if that puts some perspective on it 20:36 <@Mirage> Evilpig: that's just ink on paper... 20:36 < RangerZ2> lol 20:37 <@Evilpig> indeed 20:37 <@Evilpig> that ink pulled money out of my account on that date though 20:37 <@oddball> Evilpig: Yeah... according to that, we had a gross income of $5500 in 2013 and 7400 in 2014. That doesn't make sense to me. My gut is that we had less paying members and maaayyyybe the same attendance, if not less in 2014. Where did the extra $2k come from? 20:38 < _NSAKEY> What happened in 2013? 20:38 <@Evilpig> 7400 - 6000 from dink 20:38 <@oddball> I already took out the $6k from Dink. 20:38 <@Evilpig> they also charged $40 this past year 20:38 <@Evilpig> vs the 30 of the previous 20:39 <@oddball> Ah, ok. Forgot about that. 20:39 <@Evilpig> or 35 and 30, they charged more 20:39 < RangerZ2> 30 UP FROM 25 iirc 20:39 < RangerZ2> fuck... caps 20:40 <@Evilpig> eitherway there isn't a full picture there 20:40 <@Mirage> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/zip/4910616746.html 20:40 < PigBot`> Title: FREE rubber duck (at dallas.craigslist.org) 20:40 < _NSAKEY> They charged 30 for pre-reg and 40 for walk-ups. 20:40 < _NSAKEY> Can't speak for previous years, but that's how PN18 went. 20:40 <@oddball> Well, there's also the issue of "net revenue" doesn't equal revenue - expenditures. 20:41 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:47 <@Evilpig> that's the data that was lost 20:47 <@Evilpig> I got nothin' 20:48 <@Shadow404> "lost" 20:48 <@Shadow404> heh, a little to happen chance for my liking 20:54 <@Evilpig> oh well. they can show numbers for 2015 and 2016 now each being -3000 20:54 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 20:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 20:56 <@Shadow404> what happens to nashville 2600 if the 501c fails and shuts down? 20:56 <@Evilpig> who cares at this point 20:56 <@Shadow404> im curious 21:02 < RangerZ2> nothing really 21:02 < RangerZ2> it can be reformed 21:02 < RangerZ2> etc 21:02 < RangerZ2> the only person who would be out money would be dink 21:02 < RangerZ2> lol 21:02 <@Shadow404> the 501c just seems to be a huge social and financial and time suck 21:02 < RangerZ2> not really 21:02 <@Shadow404> i dont see many positives since it was formed 21:03 < RangerZ2> it was formed back in PN 6 21:03 < RangerZ2> no issues since then 21:03 < RangerZ2> until now 21:03 <@Mirage> RangerZ2: 7 21:03 < RangerZ2> i meant 'since' 6 21:03 < RangerZ2> but yeah 21:03 <@Mirage> PN6 was on Dolemite's credit cards and whatever goodwill he could get from vendors 21:03 <@Shadow404> what happened? 21:04 < RangerZ2> dru up and left after 5 21:04 < RangerZ2> we lost the domain, etc 21:04 <@Shadow404> thk hugme and our economy for that 21:08 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-67-235.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 21:08 <@Mirage> Evilpig: just getting to the end of 'Predestination'...wow, that's kind of fucked up 21:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 21:13 <@oddball> Evilpig: Did you go see Focus today? Curious what you thought. 21:14 <@Evilpig> I did. not bad. kinda slow. I totally agree with the reviews on too many twists and turns 21:15 <@Evilpig> toward the end I was wanting to check my email vs actually pay attention 21:15 <@northrup> That's a bad sign... 21:19 <@klixa> soooo, Evilpig , you coudlnt focus on Focus? :P 21:19 <@Evilpig> correct 21:20 * Evilpig looks around for his sammich 21:23 <@oddball> Jesus Christ. Just noticed that gmail flagged another email from Elonka as spam. Anyone know if there's a way to force an email addy onto a white list? 21:23 < dfused> Evilpig: sorry... I ate it 21:24 <@Evilpig> nope. gmail is kinda shitty like that 21:25 <@Evilpig> I need to tell backuppc not to backup at 9pm. this is dumb 21:26 <@Mirage> Evilpig: and Predestination is based on a Heinlein book...why am I not suprised. 21:31 < RangerZ2> hahaha... christie and his AG just settled with exxon for ~3.6% of the 9 BIllion dollars it was to owe in a case of leaking oil into the ground/water around a refinery 21:31 < RangerZ2> yeah.... thats going to go well for his politics 21:31 <@oddball> He's already a lame duck on the national level. 21:32 < RangerZ2> what sucks the most is.... 21:32 < RangerZ2> for NJ's cleanup of that 21:32 < RangerZ2> they will have to pay for it or just 'close off' that part of the state 21:32 < RangerZ2> or both 21:37 <@Mirage> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/arts/television/leonard-nimoy-spock-of-star-trek-dies-at-83.html 21:37 <@Evilpig> old 21:38 <@Mirage> Yeah, well...I just saw it 21:38 <@Evilpig> behind the times and useless 21:38 <@Evilpig> you shoudl kill yourself. it's for the best 21:38 <@Mirage> Sorry, I actually work for a living 21:38 <@Evilpig> I work too. just not on friday's 21:38 <@Evilpig> fridays* 21:39 <@Mirage> You're just regurgitating what everyone always tells you 21:39 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmhqleuvptvdhits] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:39 <@Evilpig> nobody else works on fridays either? 21:39 <@Evilpig> why the fuck am I going to the movies by myself then? 21:46 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 21:46 <@Mirage> Evilpig: because you're a ginger? 21:47 <@Evilpig> valid answer 21:51 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@c-73-181-12-16.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 21:53 <@Dolemite> And you're not very well behaved 21:53 <@Evilpig> i'm at least house broken 21:53 <@Dolemite> So you say. 21:53 <@Mirage> Dolemite: lol, i was tyoing that 21:53 <@Mirage> s/tyoing/typingh 21:54 <@Mirage> fuck ig 21:54 <@Mirage> it 21:54 <@Mirage> bah 21:54 * Dolemite hands Mirage a beer 21:54 <@Dolemite> Can't make your typing any worse 21:54 <@Dolemite> :) 21:54 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I think that's the problem. On my second Arogant Bastard 21:54 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-73-181-12-16.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:55 <@Dolemite> Mirage: On your way into town for GeekNIC, I have a pub/beer store you need to visit to stock up for the weekend 21:56 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Forgot to mention earlier that I was in a WebEx with one of CA's "Software Engineers" to determine why their Java Development Kit worked perfectly fine for them, but not for me. 21:57 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Not sure why I was suprised, but even though I'd mentioned in 4-5 emails (at least) that I was working on CentOS he was still suprised when I shared my desktop and it was an ssh window to the dev box. 21:57 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Oh yeah? 21:58 <@Dagmar> Let me guess. They'd tweaked their classpath? 21:58 <@Dolemite> Yeah, The Casual Pint. Fantastic bottle selection, plus you can fill a growler with any of their beers on tap. 21:59 <@Dolemite> So if you have any growlers, bring them with you. 21:59 <@Mirage> Dagmar: They hadn't bothered to update the linux scripts to include the updated classpaths, etc...only the windows .bat files. 21:59 <@Dolemite> I've got at least 2 that I'm going to fill up the Friday we head into Gatlinburg 21:59 <@Dagmar> It figures 22:00 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Why would I have any growlers? 22:00 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I didn't know if you'd ever picked up any at Blackstone. That's where I got mine from. 22:01 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Nothing dumb like that should suprise either of us coming from CA 22:01 <@Mirage> Dolemite: nope 22:02 <@Mirage> I do have a fairly extensive collection of PN/OZ/Guiness pint glasses, though. 22:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Still not sure if the other half will get her days traded to be able to come. May be flying solo again. 22:04 <@Evilpig> Mirage: if she doesn't you can always bunk with notlarry 22:04 <@Dolemite> Well, she's certainly a creature of habit 22:04 <@Evilpig> he knows how to treat you right 22:05 <@Dolemite> Is NotLarry going to make it? 22:06 <@Evilpig> he said he is 22:06 <@Dolemite> nice 22:06 <@Evilpig> raymer hit me up the other night saying he's looking forward to it 22:06 <@Dolemite> I will have to plan on riding with NotLarry, since I know he'll ride his motorcycle up 22:07 <@Mirage> Lol, he hit me up asking if I was still using technet keys he'd given me 22:07 <@Dolemite> Raymer's new job sounds like something that is both awesome and horrible at the same time. 22:07 <@Mirage> Still at DG? Haven't heard.. 22:08 <@Dolemite> No, his last day there was a week ago 22:08 <@Mirage> KMac hasn't been on communicator in awhile 22:08 <@Dolemite> He started Monday at a company that does data analytics to catch child molestors and pornographers 22:08 <@Dolemite> Hence the horrible part 22:09 <@Dolemite> The awesome part would be the bourbon room and the kegerator in the office 22:09 <@Mirage> I pray for anyone preying on ginger girls 22:10 <@Mirage> Except his ex..she was a bitch and deserves whetever she gets 22:46 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@c-73-181-12-16.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51 <@Evilpig> new 3ds power button 2 : me 0 23:01 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: yeah... that new location is BS 23:17 <@oddball> I take it you accidentally hit it? 23:20 < RangerZ1> yeah, its on the outside of the unit now :/ 23:20 <@oddball> ah. Guess it's a good thing that I recently replaced the battery on my current one. 23:29 < RangerZ1> its not really 'that' bad, since I have a case, and the xenoblade game, is worth the upgrade if you like the amiibo stuff, or just in general a really nice speed up of the UI of the system itself 23:30 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 23:36 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has quit [] 23:44 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:44 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:52 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 23:54 <@Evilpig> god damnit! 23:55 <@Evilpig> power button 3 : me 0 23:56 <@Evilpig> http://techforums.nintendo.com/message/151586 23:56 < PigBot`> Title: New Nintendo 3DS Power Button placement | Nintendo Tech Forums (at techforums.nintendo.com) 23:57 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 23:58 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Feb 28 00:00:41 2015