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01:44 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XTwbgmWRrA
01:44 < PigBot> Title: TurboTax 2015 "Boston Tea Party" (Official :60) - TurboTax Big Game Commercial & TV Ad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: TurboTax 2015 "Boston Tea Party" (Official :60) - TurboTax Big Game Commercial & TV Ad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:46 < RangerZ> its not offensive, just stupid to me... but yeah I could see why someone would see it that way.
02:21 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFDhQe9rn3U Glad to see Square Enix adding to a good Sound Track with some interesting music like this, coming in Final Fantasy Type 0 HD
02:21 < PigBot> Title: 「UTAKATA　～泡沫～」MUSIC VIDEO　（FINAL FANTASY 零式 HD） - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: 「UTAKATA　～泡沫～」MUSIC VIDEO　（FINAL FANTASY 零式 HD） - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:34 < aestetix> ok
02:34 < aestetix> anyone here good with DNS? I have a question
02:35 < aestetix> I set up IP masquerading for a VPN, so that all requests to blah.domain.com go to an internal IP address
02:35 < aestetix> However, there is a site blog.domain.com hosted at wordpress I'd also like to be able to access
02:35 < aestetix> I tried setting up a CNAME in the zonefile pointing at the wordpress, but it didn't work
02:39 < RangerZ> aestetix: i don't know about DNS, but in general, you'll need to apply the 'allow' rules before the block rules, for that scheme to work at all, otherwise it just won't make sense, and my understanding of DNS is that it doesn't work that way, it just has a list of domain -> IP
02:39 < RangerZ> it sounds like you want a rules based filtering scheme, like a firewall
02:40 < RangerZ> that might be completely off base... but ehh
02:44 < RangerZ> actually, wait... *yawns, and tries to actually wake up*... where are you setting the blah.domain.com , did you use a wildcard?
02:46 < aestetix> no
02:46 < aestetix> for the internal stuff it's *.domain.com
02:46 < aestetix> the external is blog.domain.com
02:46 < RangerZ> don't you need to put blog.domain.com above *.domain.com then?
02:46 < RangerZ> isn't dns first match?
02:47 < aestetix> maybe
02:47 < aestetix> I don't know lemme try that
02:48 < aestetix> nope :/
02:48 < RangerZ> did you clear the local pc's cache? etc
02:50 < aestetix> hmm
02:50 < aestetix> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bind9-named-configure-views/
02:50 < PigBot> Title: BIND 9 Configure Views To Partition External and Internal DNS Information (at www.cyberciti.biz)
02:50 < aestetix> this appears to be correct
02:51 < aestetix> ok not entirely
02:51 < RangerZ> yeah, like I said, not too familiar with DNS, just trying to logically think through it, and my problem is... I'm not sure how bind does its filtering
02:51 < RangerZ> b/c there are a LOT of possible ways... but only a few make sense
02:53 < RangerZ> [As bind and nsd loads the entire zone files into memory at startup, the order does not seem to matter for the resolution performance either.]
02:54 < RangerZ> ok, maybe not great quote, but it appears that within a zone, that order doesn't need to be preserved, so that doesn't matter
03:06 < RangerZ> aestetix: you figure it out?
03:13 < aestetix> no
03:14 < RangerZ> well then figure it out faster ;)
03:14 < RangerZ> lol
03:15 < RangerZ> actually, sorry, like I said, don't really know much about DNS, kinda wish I did, but honestly, the need has never arisen to look into it
03:17 < aestetix> http://serverfault.com/questions/219555/internal-and-external-dns-from-different-servers-same-zone
03:17 < PigBot> Title: bind - Internal and External DNS from Different Servers, Same Zone - Server Fault (at serverfault.com)
03:17 < aestetix> this imght help
03:18 < aestetix> nvm got it working
03:19 < aestetix> I picked a namesrver and pointd the A record at it :p
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03:28 < RangerZ> 'that tends to help'
03:28 < RangerZ> lol
03:30 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tLjGh_CFQ holy hell...
03:30 < PigBot> Title: Chelsea Fans Kick Black Man Off Of Paris Train - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Chelsea Fans Kick Black Man Off Of Paris Train - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:30 < RangerZ> wtf... its fucking london...
03:32 < RangerZ> well london team*
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:11 <@Evilpig> haha. Dolemite hope you've had some coffee.  cause email!
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08:18 <@Dolemite> The one from Stefan?
08:19 <@Evilpig> my answer
08:19 <@Evilpig> long rambling answer
08:19 <@Dolemite> yeah, I just replied
08:27 <@Dolemite> Ugh=
08:27 <@Dolemite> I have enough work orders to take about 6 techs about 2 weeks to complete.  I only have 2 techs.
08:54 <@Evilpig> that calls for more interns!
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09:20 <@Dolemite> If only I could get them
09:30 <@Dolemite> Ok...    why am I unable to delete connections in my 3.3 prod instance?
09:38 < Synx|hm_> in case anybody was wondering im a super badass, just pulled a world rally championship side ways slide into my drive way and all the way into the garage
09:39 < Synx|hm_> without killing anybody or taking the fenders off my car
09:39 <@Evilpig> on purpose?
09:39 <@Dolemite> Pics or shens
09:39 < Synx|hm_> ya
09:39 < Synx|hm_> ha
09:40 < Synx|hm_> it was really slow speed though so nothing super impressive looking tire tracks or anything ha
09:40 < Synx|hm_> but it sure felt cool
09:40 < Synx|hm_> my drive way is a sheet of ice so i have to goose it which ends up getting the backend sideways becuse of the heavy torque biase to the rear at the moment (75 rear/45 front)
09:43 < Synx|hm_> how did you pull that image from twitter the other day (pope of nope)
09:45 < dfused> right click... "Open image in new tab" ... then in new tab, right click, "Copy image URL" .. this all being in Chrome.
09:46 < Synx|hm_> oh jesus i clicked on the tweet first which removed all image related context from the right click menu
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09:57 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm_: I see your first problem there.  chrome
10:01 < dfused> thats not nice.
10:02 < dfused> oh...and I hate you.  stayed up half the damn night watching shameless.
10:05 <@Evilpig> just had to see emmy rossum naked one more time?
10:06 < dfused> oddly, it kinda reminded me of teh riches
10:06 < dfused> just with lots of nudity
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10:07 <@Dickie> Do what now
10:09 < dfused> which part confuses u?
10:13 <@Evilpig> dfused: it's Dickie, he's confused by pants
10:15 <@Dickie> I'm a huge fan of nudity
10:15 <@Dickie> present company excluded
10:16 < aestetix> god
10:16 < aestetix> HTTP/2 got approved
10:16 < aestetix> I wonder if it will become the next IPv6
10:22 <@Evilpig> Dickie: what have you got against my bare ass?
10:22 <@Dickie> hopefully nothing ever
10:23 <@Evilpig> rude
10:23 < dfused> lol
10:24 < aestetix> uh
10:29 < aestetix> penis
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12:16 <@oddball> So... with these 2 new mailing lists involving PN and nashville2600, I think we're getting close to a 1:1 ratio of members:mailing lists.
12:18 <@Evilpig> i'd say that's fairly accurate
12:18 <@Dagmar> Wait... someone spun up *new* mailing lists?
12:18 <@oddball> Well, in the past week or so.
12:18 <@Dagmar> Well, it's cool how I see no mention of this on the _old_ lists
12:18 <@oddball> Those new Google groups that Elonka and co. created.
12:19 <@oddball> ...yes there was.
12:20 < aestetix> ok so this Lenovoa issue
12:20 < aestetix> does it go away if you wipe the drive and isntall linux?
12:20 <@Dagmar> Probably so
12:21 <@Dagmar> oddball: subject line?
12:21 <@oddball> Dagmar: the email was sent by benthemeek, entitled "[PhreakNIC] Future changes to how we communicate and announcements" and sent to the root list, and the old PN google group list.
12:21 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: yeah like two more lists at least
12:21 <@oddball> aestetix: What Lenovo issue?
12:22 <@oddball> because... reasons.
12:22 <@Dagmar> I see
12:22 < aestetix> http://news.lenovo.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1929
12:22 < aestetix> that one
12:22 < PigBot> Title: Lenovo Newsroom | LENOVO STATEMENT ON SUPERFISH (at news.lenovo.com)
12:22 <@benthemeek> because we want to present a professional face for the org
12:22 <@benthemeek> and phreaknic@googlegroups can go away
12:23 <@oddball> aestetix: Ah, Superfish.  Yeah... old news, and it was fairly easy to get rid of.
12:23 <@Dagmar> These seem sensible categories
12:23 <@Dagmar> I was concerned it was another delusion special
12:23  * oddball aquired a Lenovo laptop for Christmas.
12:23 <@benthemeek> Granted Elonka is perfectly fine with critism etc going on in the r00t list but wants it to be civil etc
12:23 < aestetix> ok that's what  Ithought
12:23 <@Dagmar> "WE NEED NEW MAILING LISTS BECUASE WILBUR CONTROLS THE OTHER ONES" again
12:23 <@benthemeek> Nah
12:23 < aestetix> Because I am looking at buying a lenovo as my next system
12:23 < aestetix> of course I'd be wiping the drive etc
12:24 <@benthemeek> I think we all like the idea that the se2600 is unfilteres no holds barred say what you want
12:24 <@Dagmar> Yeah that should be fine
12:24 <@benthemeek> apparently there used to a flames@ or something that was like that
12:24 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Just pay attention to the partitioning because it'll probably be a UEFI laptop and you can make use of that
12:24 <@oddball> aestetix: If you're planning on running the stock windows install, just uninstall the usual stuff and run a trusted antivirus program.
12:25 < aestetix> Dagmar: make use of it?
12:25 <@oddball> Although, the idea of a laptop coming from the factory with viruses on it is... upsetting.
12:26 <@oddball> i will say that I'm happy to see Lenovo acknowledge that this was a bad idea.
12:26 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Yes.  Like, if there's a button specifically to restore the laptop to defaults or something, those tend to not look to closely at the image they're booting
12:26 <@benthemeek> oddball: +1
12:26 <@benthemeek> I havent proved it yet but I think my dell factory image has a virus ou of th ebox
12:26 < aestetix> uh
12:27 <@Dagmar> aestetix: So you might want to back up the uefi partition before you wipe it
12:27 <@benthemeek> for a laptop I have
12:27 < aestetix> What happens if I wipe the drive and then hit that button?
12:27 <@Dagmar> aestetix: It'll probably just boot normally, which is boring
12:27 < aestetix> So wiping the drive makes the button useless?
12:28 <@Dagmar> Almost certainly
12:28 <@oddball> benthemeek: That's why I liked the way things used to be where they would include the install media with the box.  Step 1. new install without all the bloat crap installed.
12:28 < aestetix> oh I see what you're saying.
12:28 < aestetix> the button could be a nice failsafe?
12:28 <@Dagmar> dude the "magic fixit button" on most laptops isn't anything like a firmware solution
12:28 <@benthemeek> button just points at a partition
12:28 <@Dagmar> All it does is boot an alternate, generally flagged as hidden, filesystem
12:28 < aestetix> got it
12:29 <@Dagmar> In the case of UEFI it tends to be about as magical as a button that adds extra parameters to lilo
12:29 <@Dagmar> These tend to be _utterly undocumented_ so the only hope you'll have of putting that functionality to your own twisted uses is to reverse engineer it
12:29 <@Dagmar> ...which, all things considered, is not very hard to do.
12:30 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: I assume it forces the boot to a certain primary partition on the root drive
12:30 <@Dagmar> Depends on whose it is
12:30 <@benthemeek> so you just put your own wishes on that hardcoded number and you are cooking with gas?
12:30 < aestetix> so for example, if I want to have a harmless looking windows system, I can flip the switch
12:31 < aestetix> and flip it back when I'm not say going through an airport
12:31 <@benthemeek> Interesting. I need to read up on it some more
12:31 <@Dagmar> Like, compaqs used to boot to their maintenance/bios partition when you booted them up holding F12
12:32 < aestetix> so if I understand this correctly, it's basically a rubberhose button
12:32 <@Dagmar> They're the first examples of that
12:32 <@Dagmar> Well, it's more like a dual-boot hardware button
12:32 <@Dagmar> Something the user can't fuck up unless they wipe the disk
12:33 <@Dagmar> Most newer laptops I've seen that have a "factory restore" button do exactly that thing
12:33 < aestetix> right
12:33 <@Dagmar> THey boot the hidden image which then goes and wipes and reinstalls the main image
12:33 < aestetix> so its like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/547718/how-to-enter-bios-on-uefi-capable-lenovo-z50-novo-button
12:33 < PigBot> Title: How to enter BIOS on UEFI capable Lenovo Z50? (Novo button) - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
12:33 < aestetix> the image there
12:34 <@benthemeek> sabritas
12:34 <@Dagmar> That person fucked themselves
12:34 <@Dagmar> So...  UEFI _can_, all by itself, act like LILO does and bootstrap different root filesystems
12:35 <@Dagmar> My guess is that the kid was looking at a fancy "BIOS menu" before which was actually not eeprom but part of UEFI, which he wiped
12:35 <@Dagmar> So _again_, _back that shit up_ before you wipe the disk
12:35 <@Dagmar> Or just don't wipe the uefiboot partition
12:36 <@Dagmar> Wipe the obvious Windows partition alone and install Linux in there
12:36 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, you'll likely need to disable UEFI, which isn't always possible
12:37 <@Dagmar> Any day now we're going to start seeing systems without a "Legacy Boot" option
12:37 <@oddball> yep
12:37 <@oddball> lol: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/sony-will-sell-a-premium-sound-microsdxc-card-to-audiophiles-in-japan/
12:38 < PigBot> Title: Sony will sell a "premium sound" microSDXC card to audiophiles in Japan | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
12:38 < aestetix> hmm
12:38 <@Dagmar> gawd
12:38 < aestetix> the idea of having a button to push to get into my system is very appealing
12:38 < aestetix> since I could totally see a point when someone would demand to search my computer
12:39 < aestetix> and I'm like "here you go" and they get a useless windows boot
12:39 <@oddball> looks like Sony is pulling a play from Monster.
12:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I've always just told them "No"
12:39 < aestetix> Dagmar: I don't know I'll have that option in germany
12:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: If it boots up at all, they should be fine
12:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: So fedex your shit
12:41 <@Dagmar> I'm starting to think maybe I should talk to Canada
12:41 <@Dagmar> I'm not cool with this domestic travel papers shit
12:42 < aestetix> which domestic travel stuff
12:43 <@Dagmar> THere's more chatter about the TSA requiring _special_ ID beyond just a state issued ID to allow people on a plane
12:43 < aestetix> what makes it special?
12:43 < aestetix> and how would you get it?
12:43 <@Dagmar> http://whnt.com/2014/10/23/what-you-need-to-know-about-getting-alabamas-new-star-i-d/
12:44 < aestetix> ugh
12:44 <@Dagmar> The answer to that is "No.  Say it in the original German or leave me alone."
12:45 <@Dagmar> This is nothing but requiring domestic travel papers
12:45 < aestetix> Wow.
12:45 <@rhia> �Ihre papiere, bitte�
12:45 < aestetix> This reeks of Stasi.
12:45 <@Dagmar> Yes, it does.
12:45 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Since aestetix is going to Germany, he will have approximately zero rights to deny a border search when he actually makes the trip.
12:46 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Hence, FedEx if he has a concern
12:46 <@Dagmar> rhia: Precisely
12:46 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That in itself does nothing against NSA interdiction/infection efforts.
12:46 <@Dagmar> To put it bluntly, if they start requiring this, the next time I get on a plane it will be to leave the US
12:46 <@oddball> Dagmar: Good news is that TN already complies with the "RealID" stuff, so expect your next license to have that nifty star in the corner, but... yeah.
12:47 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I think perhaps he falls below their target threshold, but just the same it makes things annoying for them
12:48 <@Dagmar> oddball: We'll see
12:48 <@oddball> And if the TSA actually starts requiring that in 2016... the airports are going to be a complete clusterfuck for a while.
12:48 <@Evilpig> they aren't now?
12:49 <@Evilpig> I have my passport anyway so all that shit is meaningless to me anyhow
12:50 < aestetix> You know that 80% of Americans do not have passports
12:50 <@Evilpig> yup
12:50 <@Dagmar> 'cuz we're not required to have special papers to travel around inside our own country
12:50 < aestetix> That's correct.
12:51 <@Dagmar> The moment that changes, we have a major fuckin' problem
12:52 <@rhia> Dagmar, well, (supposedly) you can TRAVEL w/o it, you just can't enter any federal facilities without your little compliant Yellow Star (gee, why does that sound familiar?)
12:53 <@Dagmar> rhia: Just waiting for the pink triangle
12:53 <@oddball> Evilpig: They require a driver's license, but they're saying that, starting next year, you may need one with a pretty star in the corner.
12:53 <@Dagmar> If your state required a social security card and birth certificate to issue your licence, then it should be compliant enough
12:54 <@oddball> rhia: Of course, nobody *has* to use commercial aircraft for travel, so all this bullshit is ok.
12:54 <@oddball> Dagmar: And that's the things.  There are multiple states that don't require that.
12:54 <@rhia> oddball, exactly
12:56 <@Evilpig> I remember taking my social security card and birth certificate to the courthouse when I got my license way back when
12:56 <@Evilpig> but kentucky is on that list of states that aren't compliant
12:57 <@oddball> As is NJ :p
12:57 <@oddball> It might be that KY stopped requiring that.
12:58 <@oddball> TN did for a while... which meant that everyone had to bring that shit back in when they renewed after the state determined that that was a bad idea.
12:58 <@Evilpig> oddball: but I don't have a NJ license.  :P prick
12:58 <@Dagmar> I know I had to jump through some silly hoops when I came back from California
12:59 <@oddball> Dagmar: I think that was why.
12:59 <@Dagmar> Enough that I simply waited until my DL was going to expire before getting a TN one
12:59 <@Dagmar> One cop demanded I go have my DL changed and I sort of stopped him cold
12:59 <@Dagmar> "Which law, specifically, requires that I obtain a driver's licence from this state?"
12:59 <@oddball> The state decided to drop the requirements to "attract business and a larger workforce" (read: so that illegals could get state issued ID)
13:00 <@Dagmar> They _say_ 60 days but it's not a thing they have any power to enforce
13:00 <@oddball> I believe it is actually a law.
13:00 <@Dagmar> Cite it.
13:01 <@oddball> I think the hard part is trying to figure out if your Cali license was still valid or not.
13:01 <@Dagmar> THe problem is that making that a law would once again be creating a registry of where each citizen lives
13:01 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That's how driver's license info is used anyway.
13:02 <@Dagmar> oddball: That one's easy.  The same network links all the various DMVs.  Any TN cop can easily query for violations listed in any state
13:02 <@oddball> I think TN licenses are no longer valid if you've moved from the address on file past 6 days.
13:02 < _NSAKEY> If someone with the sheriff's office tries to serve you with papers, the first thing they do is pull your driver's license.
13:02 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Yeah but it's still something you don't have to really update
13:02 <@oddball> er 60 days
13:02 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: ...and in case you've not noticed, when WTVF wants to talk about someone who was arrested, are they using mug shots?  No.  They're using the person's driver's licence photo 90% of the time
13:03 < _NSAKEY> The solution, although it isn't exactly cheap, is to get a UPS mailbox and put that down as your driver's license address. They can't really do anything about that.
13:03 <@Dagmar> CA's definitely didn't have that requirement at the time.  I checked.
13:04 <@oddball> ah, ok
13:04 <@Dagmar> You just needed to be a "resiodent" in CA and have an address in CA.
13:04 <@Dagmar> er "resident"
13:04 <@Dagmar> All the DMVs _request_ you update your licence within 60 days if you move
13:04 <@oddball> I guess you then have to know what the legal definition of resident is for that state.
13:05 <@Dagmar> For most it's lived there for six months, or simply have a mailing address of some sort
13:05 <@oddball> And you gave me shit because a gun shop wouldn't sell me a gun because my license still showed my old address (I had the paperwork on me to show that I'd updated it).
13:06 <@Dagmar> I did?  When?
13:06 <@oddball> Back when we were both working in the NOC.
13:06 <@Dagmar> I don't think I'd have even mentioned the address chance
13:06 <@Dagmar> er change
13:06 <@Dagmar> No sense in giving them reasons to worry
13:06 <@oddball> I had to because of the form you have to fill out for the background check.
13:07 <@Dagmar> Ah that's where you made the hoop they have to jump through trickier than it needed to be
13:07 <@oddball> And they're supposed to check it against state issued ID.
13:07 <@Dagmar> I don't personally find a _sticker_ on a licence to update an address very compelling
13:08 <@oddball> Hell, at that point, the state didn't even send me a sticker.  Just a sheet of paper.
13:09 <@oddball> Of course, this was at Bass Pro.  The other gun shops I dealt with just looked at both, said "ok," and ran the check.
13:09 <@oddball> Which is what a cop would do if I was pulled over.
13:23 < RangerZ> so lent started... so aestetix are you giving up twitter?
13:23 < RangerZ> it would probably really help your life ;)
13:25 < RangerZ> https://twitter.com/anarchival/status/568265826798845953
13:25 < PigBot> Title: anarchival on Twitter: "I have a headache. I wish I had vodka." (at twitter.com)
13:25 < RangerZ> Trigger warning for benthemeek, b/c he's not allowed to read those ;)
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13:34 <@Dagmar> This just feels wrong somehow
13:34 < aestetix> I guess no sex with anarvhical tonight
13:35 <@Dagmar> Signing a new contract to get a lower monthly bill and a better phone than I was aiming for, new
13:35 <@Dagmar> We'll see if the idiots at Best Buy can manage to fuck it all up by lying to me
13:39 <@Dagmar> I would like, just once, to interact with a Best Buy employee for more than ten minutes without them trying to lie to me about something
13:41 < RangerZ> Dagmar: an old co-worker of mine got written up for telling someone that HDMI (this was back when it first came out) would work over paperclips so therefore they didn't need to buy a more expensive cable, they just needed the cheapest cable of the right length
13:42 < RangerZ> the customer thanked him and ended up buying more from him, but it wasn't "profit" items
13:42 < RangerZ> Best Buy (after it bought and sold SunCoast) started focusing on "profit items"
13:43 < RangerZ> and requiring a certain % of sales be of those items
13:46 <@Dagmar> They shouldln't worry about that
13:46 <@Dagmar> They should worry about what happens when they tell me the third lie
13:46 <@Dagmar> They should worry about that a *lot*
13:46 <@Dagmar> I am *not* a nice customer anymore the moment that happens.
13:52 < RangerZ> Dagmar: have I told you the story of when a friend yelled "can I get some fucking help in here" at the top of his (450lb black man) voice... inside a best buy...
13:52 <@Dagmar> No
13:53 <@Dagmar> Jeez something is definitely wrong with the health insurance marketplace
13:53 <@Dagmar> I am getting calls _every day_ from their automated sysem
13:53 <@Dagmar> ...and I know my stuff is in the "pay the premium and you're done" phase
13:54 <@oddball> heh... my TKD instructor just sent an email out asking if anyone was planning on showing up for class tonight.
13:54 <@Dagmar> Tonight should be fine
13:54 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow, on the other hand...
13:55 <@oddball> oh, yeah... tonight should be fine, but he lives about an hour from the studio, so he doesn't want to make the drive and nobody else show up.
13:55 <@Dagmar> Fuck
13:55 <@Dagmar> If I'm buying a G5 I have to figure out how to trick the damn charging circuit
13:55 <@Dagmar> I have the Scoche dual 2.1A USB adapter in my car
13:56 <@oddball> Oh... and Saturday is supposed to be in the 40's an raining.  No more ice, but that's weather that does nothing but promote suicide.
13:56 <@Dagmar> oddball: We'll see how water falling from the sky on ground that is still frozen works out
13:57 <@Dagmar> Nadia's G5 basically refused to charge off the adapter in my car
13:57 <@Dagmar> I've got a couple others.  I guess I'll start with trying those
13:58 <@Dagmar> Well... shit
13:58 <@Dagmar> http://www.shopandroid.com/scosche-revolt-12w--12w--48a-dual-usb-car-charger/5A47A18477.htm
13:58 < PigBot> Title: SCOSCHE reVOLT 12W + 12W 4.8A Dual USB Car Charger - Android Car Chargers - ShopAndroid (at www.shopandroid.com)
13:58 <@Dagmar> That's what I have
13:58 <@Dagmar> Maybe ther'es something up with Nadia's G5
13:59 <@Dagmar> It's like the _only_ dual 2.1A charger I've seen on the market
13:59 <@Dagmar> ...and there they are promoting it for the G5 specifically.
14:02 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I think we all have that one best buy trolling story.
14:02 < _NSAKEY> Mine involved taking a bunch of heavily fire-damaged 80s computers to the customer service desk to be recycled.
14:02 < _NSAKEY> If you had stayed around to eat after the last meeting, you would have heard it.
14:02 <@Dolemite> My wife was sexually harassed by a Best Buy troll in a wheel chair while she was trying to buy a case for her new phone.
14:03 < RangerZ> was she asked if she wanted to go for a roll?
14:03 < RangerZ> lol
14:03 <@Dolemite> No, but he was a major Samsung fanboy and threatened to bend her over his wheelchair and spank her while he drove around the store until she changed her mind.
14:04 < RangerZ> I think Evilpig has that porno
14:04 < RangerZ> but yeah....
14:04 <@Dolemite> When she came out and was finally able to tell me the story I went inside, loudly demanded to speak to the manager, and told him to deal with that mother fucker.
14:04 < RangerZ> yeah
14:04 <@Dagmar> I would have not been so nice
14:04 < RangerZ> I would have stood in the door and YELLED for the entire store to hear me
14:04 <@Dagmar> I would have suggested to the man that being pushed into traffic is a more viable option for him than most people
14:05 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Been there, done that
14:05 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: The kid who had been telling his coworkers that the _gold_ on the USB 2.0 cables made the electricity go faster
14:05 <@Dagmar> I reamed him out
14:05 <@Dolemite> RangerZ: That is what I did, for the most part
14:06 <@Dagmar> It was a female co-worker who repeated that to me, and I could tell she believed it so I was like, "Okay... who was it that told this bit of scientific nonsense?"
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14:11 < RangerZ> so i have a question... does TN have a law on how many/where bathrooms have to be usable ?
14:11 < RangerZ> in an office building
14:11 <@Evilpig> I'm sure there's something at least ada related
14:15 <@oddball> What, you can only use the bathroom three floors up and on the other side of another building?
14:16 < aestetix> RangerZ: why are you suing a place for having a "no RangerZ allow in this bathroom" sign?
14:17 < RangerZ> no
14:17 < RangerZ> work is down to 1 bathroom for 4 floors
14:17 < RangerZ> oddball: literally yes, that is exactly how it is
14:17 < RangerZ> 3 floors away and on other side of building
14:18 < RangerZ> but 3 floors 'down' ;)
14:19 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: is there an elevator?
14:19 < RangerZ> sometimes ;)
14:19 < RangerZ> yes, and most of the time it works
14:19 < RangerZ> lol
14:20 < RangerZ> requests for service for ISIS are kinda hard to get done recently... for some reason...
14:20  * RangerZ shrugs
14:20 < RangerZ> lol
14:21 <@oddball> RangerZ: I would like to officially state that I had nothing to do with that.
14:21 <@oddball> ...nothing...
14:22 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: if there is a working elevator and one bathroom.  meh.  a wheelchair can still get to it.  quit yer bitchin'
14:23 <@oddball> I believe this will of interest: http://thedailywh.at/2015/02/food-day-little-caesars-unveils-new-pizza-wrapped-3-5-feet-bacon/
14:23 < PigBot> Title: Food of the Day: Little Caesars Unveils New Pizza Wrapped in 3.5 Feet of Bacon - The Daily What (at thedailywh.at)
14:24 <@Evilpig> we were just talking about that
14:25 < RangerZ> that sounds pretty fucking stupid actually
14:25 <@oddball> gimmicky? yes.  Tasty? damn skippy!
14:26 <@oddball> I just wish Papa John's had kept their 7 sausage pizza.  I mean, beyond the "sausage party" pizza jokes.
14:27 <@Dickie> Hi
14:28 <@Evilpig> you kinda summoned him with that one
14:28 < RangerZ> speaking of sausage party enthusiasts
14:28 <@Dickie> 7 seems like too many
14:28 <@Dickie> how many are normally available?
14:29 <@oddball> maybe 2 or 3.
14:29 <@Dickie> I'd be hard-pressed to name the third
14:29 <@oddball> And I'm pretty sure that's why they dropped it.  Too many topings that wouldn't otherise be sold.
14:29 <@Dickie> yeah
14:30 <@oddball> and they only had it for like a week.
14:30 <@oddball> ah, sorry, it was only 5 sausages
14:30 <@oddball> http://www.brandeating.com/2012/12/review-papa-johns-five-sausage-pizza.html
14:30 < PigBot> Title: Review: Papa John's - Five Sausage Pizza | Brand Eating (at www.brandeating.com)
14:34 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: There's supposed to be a law about businesses having public restrooms, but nobody really enforces it.
14:36 <@Dagmar> LOL Best Buy has failed again
14:36 <@Dagmar> Looks like if I'm going to make a deal through them I'll be doing it through the website and then picking it up in an hour or so
14:37 <@Dagmar> They tried to tell me that you can't get the phone for $200 and still use the "$60 unlimited" plan
14:37 <@Dagmar> We shall see about that
14:38 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: What carrier?
14:38 <@Dagmar> Sprint
14:39 < _NSAKEY> How much does the phone cost at full retail?
14:39 <@Dagmar> That is an imaginary number
14:39 <@Dickie> All phones retail at $5,000,000
14:39 <@Dagmar> The guy even used the "L"-word at me
14:39 <@Dagmar> I do not _lease_ devices
14:40 < _NSAKEY> Then how much is the store wanting to charge you for it if you get the $60 unlimited plan?
14:40 <@Dagmar> I will violate the warranty in the biblical sense the very moment the crapware annoys me
14:40 < _NSAKEY> Sounds like another incursion in the war against end users owning their devices.
14:40 <@Dagmar> Oh just $649 in 24 easy payments
14:40 <@Dagmar> Hance, imaginary number
14:41 <@Dagmar> At the very least the BestBuy website will let me buy the phone for $200 and keep my existing plan lol
14:42 < aestetix> ok for fucking
14:42 < aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/19/yc-backed-kuhcoon-promises-to-automate-facebook-ad-campaigns-for-small-businesses/
14:42 < PigBot> Title: YC-Backed Kuhcoon Promises To Automate Facebook Ad Campaigns For Small Businesses | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com)
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14:42 < aestetix> way to make your company completely dependent on another one
14:44 <@Neoteric> https://github.com/sunlightlabs/hacks/blob/master/topics/git/aliases.md
14:44 < PigBot> Title: hacks/aliases.md at master · sunlightlabs/hacks · GitHub (at github.com)
14:44 < _NSAKEY> So here's a question: How rude is it to include newly discovered passes in the slides for my talk?
14:45 < _NSAKEY> Difficulty level: I'm using the full spectrum of ANSI background/foreground colors to make them hard to read.
14:45 <@oddball> aestetix: After Facebook declared that commercial facebook accounts are essentially useless now, there's definitely a market.
14:46 < aestetix> YC Checklist: [] widget for mobile phones [] uses facebook [] does some stupid kind of advertising
14:46 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah, and you have 'always' been tied to a company in one way or another , if you are doing marketing
14:46 < aestetix> basically every YC "company" lately is a stupid webapp
14:46 < RangerZ> aestetix: yes... b/c those things make money
14:46 < RangerZ> or have the chance of making money
14:47 < aestetix> oh I forgot
14:47 < aestetix> [] run by a 23 year old fresh out of college CS grad
14:47 < RangerZ> these aren't "business" these are gambling by rich people
14:47 < aestetix> pretty much
14:47 < RangerZ> no single one of these companies is meant to last more than a few years
14:48 < aestetix> it's a sort of combination of hollywood and wall st
14:48 < aestetix> and vegas
14:48 < RangerZ> and then be sold off, or to kick-start another company
14:48 < _NSAKEY> And the VCs prey on 20-somethings because they don't know any better and can be manipulated into doing what the rich old guys with the VC money want.
14:48 <@oddball> I'm guessing they're paying for ad space on Facebook, and selling chunks of that to small companies that can't otherwise afford that sort of thing.
14:49 < RangerZ> I was kinda kidding when I said that solar panels+equipment was a better investment then most stocks... but when I did the math... it really isn't that much of a joke
14:49 < aestetix> yep
14:49 < aestetix> What's made the Bay Area intolerable is that it has filled up with those 20somethings who all drink the koolaid
14:50 < RangerZ> aestetix: do they 'really' drink it? or do they realize how much of a joke it is... but want to cash in too?
14:50 < aestetix> they drink it
14:50 < aestetix> You know how many people I've met who think they are going to change the world?
14:50 < RangerZ> just like that girl who dated weev, you can have a lot of people 'publicly' saying they believe it
14:51 < aestetix> I'm talking about private conversations
14:51 < aestetix> Or what I've heard in job interviews
14:51 < RangerZ> ohh so am I
14:51 < aestetix> Why do you think I don't go out here anymore?
14:51 <@oddball> sooo damn many
14:51 < RangerZ> I believe more than we'd guess are people who are "just playing the game"
14:51 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Do you ever get tempted to throw names like Alexander The Great and Julius Caesar at those people?
14:51 < aestetix> You can't walk down the street in the mission without hearing about strartups
14:51 <@oddball> I know a few that actually have... but they're venture capitolists. :p
14:52 < aestetix> ok RangerZ which is worse: a community of people who all put forth a false image of belief, or of people who actually believe it?
14:53 < aestetix> They are either stupid or disingenuous
14:53 < RangerZ> who actually believe it
14:53 < RangerZ> lol
14:53 <@Dagmar> Well... this is interesting
14:53 < RangerZ> just think of it as another religion
14:53 < aestetix> So it's ok to knowingly propagate a lie?
14:53 < aestetix> That is absolutely what it is.
14:53 < RangerZ> aestetix: if you are making money, yep
14:53 <@Dagmar> Sprint's website is now somehow offering me the phone for $100 instead of $200
14:53 < aestetix> It's a fucking cult.
14:54 < RangerZ> aestetix: yep, which is fine, you can easily use people in a cult
14:54 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Business is all about lying to people at some point.
14:54 < RangerZ> just to cash in on them, plus they like to buy a lot of 'magic underwear'
14:54 <@oddball> Dagmar: And that's why you comparison shop, even with the same phone company.
14:54 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: no it isn't.
14:55 < RangerZ> aestetix: yes it is
14:55 < aestetix> You can be deceptive, but not lie.
14:55 < _NSAKEY> Sounds a lot like a distinction without a difference.
14:55 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: look at politics.
14:55 <@Dagmar> Ah ha.  I see
14:55 < RangerZ> deception is a lie in a legal case
14:55 <@Dagmar> It's definitely #200 if I keep my existing plan
14:55 < aestetix> So you think it's not possible to run an honest business?
14:55 < RangerZ> hence "tell the _whole truth_" part
14:55 <@Dagmar> If I want it for $100 (and am completely incapable of math) my monthly rate would be $85/monht
14:56 < RangerZ> aestetix: no, _NSAKEY has read a philosophy book on business ethics
14:56 < aestetix> lol
14:56 < aestetix> hi Bahhumbug how are you?
14:56 < aestetix> heh
14:57 < RangerZ> b/c even in those they discuss how "keeping knowledge to yourself" is a form of "dishonesty"
14:57 < RangerZ> but that is to "be expected" in busines
14:57 < RangerZ> because both parties enter the negotiations with that understanding
14:57 < aestetix> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/
14:57 < PigBot> Title: The Great SIM Heist: How Spies Stole the Keys to the Encryption Castle (at firstlook.org)
14:57 < RangerZ> each party is trying to get the most out of the other
14:58 <@Mirage> RangerZ: 'trade secret' - "keeping knowledge to yourself"
14:58 < RangerZ> Mirage: yep, but it doesn't have to be that limited
14:59 < RangerZ> but yeah, its just a complicated debate on 'terms'
14:59 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: More like, I've never met an honest business type in my life.
15:00 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: shhh
15:00 < RangerZ> i figured... but I wanted to give you backup ;)
15:00 <@Mirage> RangerZ: if there is even 1 legal precedent, no matter how archaic, that a laywer can find where it was successfully used to avoid divulging information, they'll try to find ways to leverage it for everything.
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15:00 < _NSAKEY> aestetix has been re-confirmed as auto-rejoining scum.
15:01  * Bahhumbug /stabs aestetix in the neck
15:02 < RangerZ> also, I'm still going to guess that the NSA and GCHQ got into Gemalto by having the source code of Windows, and the valid driver signing certs of big companies (how stuxnet worked too)
15:03 <@Evilpig> but _NSAKEY ...
15:03 < RangerZ> b/c MSFT has to give the source code of windows to the gov't
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15:03 < Evilpig> now what?
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15:03 < dfused> hurray passed my exam
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15:03 <@Dagmar> Behold the neenja kick
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15:04 < _NSAKEY> You guys are all shit lords.
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15:04 < dfused> what the hell have I come back to
15:04 <@Mirage> ssdd
15:04  * Evilpig wipes a booger on dfused 
15:04 <@Dagmar> Fuck
15:04 < dfused> soab
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15:05 <@Dagmar> Damnit there is a way to remove someone from a channel without them knowing it but at the moment I can't recall what it is
15:05 < dfused> and I just cleaned this shirt
15:05 <@Bahhumbug> This is similar to the weekly schoolyard beatings that someone like aestetix would be used to
15:05 <@Dagmar> I thought it was fpart but perhaps not
15:05 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: /msg chanserv kick
15:05 <@Bahhumbug> Nah
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15:05 <@Dagmar> Nah that just makes chanserv kick them
15:05 <@Bahhumbug> /msg chanserv remove #channel user
15:06 <@Bahhumbug> Watch
15:06 <@Dagmar> -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- No help available for remove.
15:06 <@Bahhumbug> It used to be remove.  What the fuck?
15:06 <@Dagmar> They might have taken it out
15:06 <@Bahhumbug> No, that's clear #channel users
15:06 <@Bahhumbug> remove should remove a single user
15:07 <@Dagmar> It was stealthy, but technically it desynched the user
15:07 <@Dagmar> They would not get any part message
15:07 <@Dagmar> So they probably took it back out on that basis
15:07 <@Bahhumbug> It was a freenode specific function added to charb and then 7.
15:09 <@Evilpig> well, jerks, i'm getting back to work now
15:10 <@Dickie> read: masturbating
15:10 <@Dagmar> Well, I guess I'm going to the Sprint store
15:13 < RangerZ> dfused: congrats, now you are a certified Apple Care rep?
15:13 < RangerZ> aka an "Apple Genius" ?
15:16 < dfused> lol
15:17 < dfused> no, cisco
15:17 < RangerZ> ccna?
15:17 < RangerZ> ccnp
15:17 < RangerZ> either way, congrats
15:17 < dfused> part 1.  now on to part two and then I gotta get ccna sec
15:17 < RangerZ> beyond that, may god have mercy on your soul ;)
15:17 < dfused> hahah
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15:18 < RangerZ> my undergrad is the 'regional cisco academy' so you can take the tests up to the point where you have to fly to cisco HQ to take tests, lol
15:19 < dfused> damn
15:19 < RangerZ> so many people took the CCNA courses
15:19 < RangerZ> and a fair amount CCNP
15:19 < RangerZ> and getting undergrad then grad level credit too
15:20 < dfused> well the ccna and ccna sec are part of my B.S. so I gotta get em kncked out... I may look towards CCNP afterwards just for shit and grins
15:20 < RangerZ> what kinda sucks is... even if you pay the 1000$s for the courses... you still have to pay cisco's testing fees, lol
15:21 < dfused> its all a racket
15:21 < RangerZ> but you get a 50% off coupon
15:21 < dfused> its like the 80/yr I ave to pay to keep my cissp up to date
15:21 < RangerZ> part of me wishes there was a formal state requirement for that
15:22 <@Dagmar> Oh so it's just $80 now and not the wildly variable continuing education stuff?
15:22 < RangerZ> so that it would be illegal to say you are "network engineer" without getting certified
15:22 < dfused> oh now.. you gotta hve th eCPEs as well
15:22 <@Dagmar> Bleh
15:22 < RangerZ> like it is... with "engineer" , or "electrical engineer"
15:22 <@Dagmar> They had that all fucked up when I had mine
15:22 < dfused> but since I'm in school full time... that knocks em out
15:22 <@Dagmar> I actually got continuing education credits for _giving_ lectures
15:23 <@Dagmar> Finally said fuck it, because it didn't make any sense
15:23 < dfused> yeah... I used to could read a magazine, and answer stupid questions and get CPEs
15:23 <@Dagmar> That I could deal with
15:23 < dfused> but I need the cissp for myt work....so -sigh- I'm stuck dealing with their crap
15:23 <@Dagmar> ...but the fact that their website looked like a refugee from 1995 on top of everything else (like no one but other CISSPs knowing what a CISSP is) made my just abandon the thing
15:24 < dfused> lol
15:24 <@Dagmar> Seriously.  If you saw the ISC'2 site in 2001 you'd know what I was talking about
15:25 <@Dagmar> So... yeah apparently I can just get an S5 for $250 today with a $50 mail-in rebate card
15:25 <@Dagmar> 2-year obligation of my current plan
15:25 < dfused> not nearly as bad as comptia's site to keep up with cpes
15:25 <@Evilpig> why do I keep getting emails asking information about nashville2600 shit when the administration of that organization has made it clear they want nothign to do with me?
15:25 <@Dagmar> evilpig: Just start forwarding them or something
15:25 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Is this about another invoice?
15:25 <@Evilpig> no, asking for who has access to the youtube channel
15:25 <@Evilpig> the answer is dru
15:26 <@Evilpig> does he realize it?  probably not
15:26 <@Dagmar> Oh, just ignore it then
15:26 <@Evilpig> I'm not gonna just ignore elonka
15:26 < _NSAKEY> I think ben has access to it as well, but don't know.
15:26 < RangerZ> just forward it to the 'new' mailing list
15:26 <@Evilpig> although I am close to 
15:26 <@Dagmar> Oh... Okay yeah she's reasonable
15:26 <@Evilpig> Im not on the new mailing list as I assume I would be moderated there as well
15:26 <@Dagmar> Just tell her who you think has access to what and how and she won't likely bother you about it again
15:27 <@Dagmar> I would also like to point out that as I predicted the con talks are not yet available
15:27 <@Evilpig> I told her the login name, the old password, and that I got an email from google over the weekend telling me that I have been removed as the recovery address by dru
15:27 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Now that I think about it, I'm almost certain that ben has access to the youtube channel.
15:27 < RangerZ> he does
15:27 < RangerZ> I told him I could help him manage it if he wanted
15:27 <@Dagmar> We need to stop letting "professionals" take six months to reencode and watermark videos
15:28 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: They haven't even done the PN18 videos. The announcement about videos was regarding PN17.
15:28 <@Evilpig> I uploaded all the shit to it and got tired of labeling, tagging, grouping into lists
15:28 < RangerZ> FFS... notacon had videos on DVD -at- the con <1hr after the talk
15:28 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Sweet crap
15:28 < RangerZ> and online < week later
15:28 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I can make that happen
15:28 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Our problem is apparently not having anyone local who can do that sort of thing.
15:28 <@Dagmar> But anyway... I need to go pick up a fancy phone now.  Back later
15:28 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Really.  Do tell.
15:29 < _NSAKEY> Ben said that I think brimstone and someone else in atlanta were doing the PN17 videos.
15:29 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Remember, I bought a sort of "minimum requirements" camera last year just for doing this sort of thing
15:29 <@Dagmar> I'm sure one of us probably owns a camera that can do composite or component output that's better than the Sony HandiPornoCam I bought
15:29 < _NSAKEY> If you know what to do and step up, I'm sure ben would throw a drive with the PN18 videos at you before you could finish offering to re-encode them.
15:30 <@Dagmar> If he's got them I can reencode them
15:30 <@Dagmar> It generally takes about twice realtime on my _desktop_
15:30 <@Dagmar> Handbrake will let you queue videos for that en-masse
15:31 <@oddball> Evilpig: I'm just going to guess that she asked Dru, and he responded that you do.  Probably saying that as a defense to any acusations that he hasn't done anything.
15:31 <@Evilpig> I'll venture a guess that he said "I don't know"  or just didn't respond
15:32 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Does notacon do all the watermarking and other fun stuff that is apparently desired for newer PN videos?
15:32 <@oddball> Evilpig: oo... I fogot about the "failure to respond" option.
15:32 < RangerZ> no
15:32 <@Evilpig> I will just point out that every email that has been sent to me for information has been answered, generally within an hour of receipt
15:32 < RangerZ> 'water marking' ?
15:32 < RangerZ> wtf
15:32 < RangerZ> is THAT why its taking so long?
15:32 <@oddball> Wait... PN vids are going to be water marked now?
15:33 < _NSAKEY> I say watermarked, but my understanding is that the PN17 videos are going to be all professional looking.
15:33 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/user/phreaknicstaff
15:33 < PigBot> Title: PhreakNIC Presentation Videos - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:33 < RangerZ> this is the channel "they" apparently don't have access to
15:34 < _NSAKEY> And that's utter horse shit, because I know that access to that youtube channel has been discussed.
15:34 < _NSAKEY> Looking at the PN16 videos on that channel, I imagine the PN17 videos are being done in a similar fashion.
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15:35 <@oddball> And if it's something that Evilpig has access to that they need, they could always jump in here and ask... oh wait.
15:35 < _NSAKEY> oddball: That would violate the no man's land of a divide between the IRC and non-IRC crowds.
15:36 <@oddball> because we're eeeeeeeevil and have cooties.
15:36 < _NSAKEY> I don't know if you guys caught it, but there was a brief mention at the meeting about making a "civil" IRC channel. I don't know if it would be for planning or just hanging out.
15:36 < _NSAKEY> It was something that got mentioned in passing.
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15:37 < _NSAKEY> I don't think you were there at the time it came up, oddball.
15:37 <@Evilpig> if it comes up again, point out it exists
15:37 <@oddball> Sure, Elonka doesn't come in here, but she has never hung out on IRC (as far as I remember) and hasn't apparently declared war on those that do.
15:37 <@benthemeek> Evilpig its my fault you are getting hit up by elonka
15:38 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I think it was pretty much code for "We want an IRC channel where Amber can go without getting flamed to a crisp inside of 60 seconds."
15:38 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: For fuck's sake.  I'm getting really damned tired of this "well, we can't use the resources we already have because... reasons" bullshit.
15:38 < _NSAKEY> But that's just an attempt to read between the lines that could be wrong.
15:38 <@benthemeek> I have been trying to get in the youtube channel to get it to the guys in atlanta who did the videos
15:38 <@benthemeek> The pass I got from Dru didnt work
15:38 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: the problem is, I answer and I did know
15:38 <@benthemeek> We will check back with him
15:38 <@Evilpig> now if dru wasn't a fucktard.  he would have changed the passowrd and left it in last pass then it would have been shared
15:38 <@Evilpig> but...  yeah.
15:39 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: Why so many problems keeping up with accounts?
15:39 <@benthemeek> I dont think he trusts lastpass or google
15:39 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: the guy holding the accounts doesn't answer email
15:39 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: See my last statement.
15:39 <@benthemeek> Anyway I will straighten it out, sorry you were bothered
15:39 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: Things like ccrypt work just fine. You don't have to trust third parties.
15:40 <@Evilpig> lastpass is perfectly fine
15:40 <@Evilpig> and it has convenient features to allow group control to accounts.  *gasp*
15:40 < _NSAKEY> I personally use ccrypt for keeping my passes for accounts saved, just because I prefer dealing with terminals for that sort of thing.
15:40 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'm not disagreeing at all. There's a lot of NIH going around, it seems.
15:40 <@Evilpig> when you're all about sharing the load of work and not hiding what's going on that's a good thing
15:41 <@oddball> Can't use *this* IRC channel for... reasons, can't use any of the old mailing lists for... reasons...
15:42 < RangerZ> i'm fine with using ANY IRC ... as long as it stays still
15:44 < RangerZ> but yeah, their unwillingness to use instant communication medium, is rather annoying
15:45 <@oddball> right
15:45 < RangerZ> its almost like corydon and dru don't want to be accountable
15:46 < RangerZ> but that can't be the case
15:48 <@Evilpig> corydon didn't leave the channel to be unaccountable.  he was tired of hearing me bitch about the shit dru was doing wrong and was tired of it
15:48 <@Evilpig> he was tired of all the folks in here being negative and saying wtf constantly to all the bullshit going on and leaving was easier than actually nutting up and dealing with it
15:50 <@oddball> And he claims that he was tired of all the dick and fart jokes.  Which is hillarious considering all the dick and fart jokes he made.
15:51 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Really? I remember some meme he showed at the January meeting that ended with something like "but you can't unlick my butthole."
15:52 <@oddball> yep
15:53 <@Evilpig> peaches is still on channel.  you can ask him if you want.
15:53 <@Evilpig> he might respond
15:53 < Peaches84> He has made a lot of jokes over time. And no i don't think that really is the reason.  What's up?
15:54 <@oddball> ah, that's what I was told a while back.
15:54 < _NSAKEY> I recall aestetix acting like he's the reason corydon left the channel.
15:55 <@Mirage> Peaches84: Hey, girlfriend!
15:55 <@Mirage> =)
15:56 <@oddball> Peaches84: how's things going?
15:57 < Peaches84> No i feel the reason which i can only say what i feel i am not him. I feel that it is because when he is working he needs to really focuse on things and he has a lot of differnt message cliets going on. So being this chat was constantly going off and also i know there has been a lot of negitive things going back and forth between a lot of people. That it was best if he just signed out. That's how i see it because i know that when
15:57 < Peaches84>  i am home i have to kind of limit my chatting with him because he needs to work. and i don't take it personal and nobody else should. Unless less your butthurt about something and that's a personal problem and you need to see a DR. :)
15:58 < Peaches84> Hey you how ya been
15:58 < Peaches84> Things are good. Work is going pretty good and i have some Dr appointments coming up but i don't see anything wrong just checkups.
15:58 <@Dolemite> Peaches said butthurt.   *snicker*
15:59 < Peaches84> ha ha
15:59 < dfused> snicker ... butthurt...
15:59 < dfused> wow..
15:59 < Peaches84> and if you have a snicker in your butthurt then you really have problems.
15:59 < dfused> lol
16:01 <@Dolemite> I prefer Baby Ruth
16:01 <@oddball> Peaches84: cool
16:01 <@oddball> And yeah, I definately understand the concept of "I'm too busy to hang out."
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16:03 < Peaches84> lol
16:05 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to skedaddle
16:08 < Peaches84> Oddball we have had truly a lot going on with trying to get some things around the house done and i have been back and forth with multiple DR's one of my drs did blood work and was concerned about my liver levels so i had to go to another one to have a 2nd test and his opinion but they say its a little high but not enough to cause any panic.
16:08 < Peaches84> Ok Bye Dolemite
16:10 < Peaches84> Otherwise i am still kicking
16:10 <@oddball> Peaches84: oof... glad to hear that it's looking like a false alarm.
16:15 < aestetix> Peaches84: how is corydon
16:15 < _NSAKEY> ... And the baby troll is out for recess.
16:16 < Peaches84> He is doing pretty good. Been making sure i am ok and been doing some other things here helping me fix the dogs a better shelter area for them during this weather.
16:16 < Peaches84> How are you?
16:17 < aestetix> I had a root canal yesterday.
16:17 < Peaches84> oddball me too.
16:17 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: why do you think I was going to be a troll
16:17 < Peaches84> EW i am sure you are enjoying that.
16:17 < aestetix> I was just wondering how Corydon was doing ;)
16:17 < Peaches84> lol
16:18 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Almost everything you type is some sort of grade school level troll.
16:21 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: like how I got kickbanned for saying hello to Bahhumbug?
16:22 < _NSAKEY> Yes, exactly like that.
16:28 < Peaches84> mmm
16:42 < aestetix> ugh
16:42 < aestetix> jackhammer outisde my window :/
16:44 < Peaches84> Tell him to go away  or you could dress as a homlessman and stager out and pee on him lol
16:46 < Peaches84> I remember when i worked downtown for DHS oneday there was a homeless man walk up and pee in the window area of where my ceo's office was she started screaming.
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17:01 <@Mirage> the PM running the WebEx I'm in right now is really starting to remind me of Cathy Crimi
17:01 < Peaches84> ;/
17:08  * oddball comes inside from de-icing the car
17:08 <@oddball> I should probably put on some pants.
17:09 <@Bahhumbug> If you were deicing the car without pants, yeah, I can can see that as a problem.
17:09 < Peaches84> oh fun ha ha and to think were suppose to get another inch to two inches of snow and up to a quarter of a inch of ice tomorrow
17:09 <@Bahhumbug> Better you than me.
17:09 < Peaches84> He was trying make some money Bahhumbug lol
17:09 <@Bahhumbug> I have more than enough broken limbs down on my property.
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17:10 < Peaches84> Yeah i dread tomorrow and i am suppose to work from 1-9pm tomorrow night
17:10  * Bahhumbug pats the smart bot
17:10 <@Bahhumbug> @weather
17:10 < PigBot> Bahhumbug: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
17:10 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Manchester, TN :: Partly Cloudy :: 16F (Humidity: 62%) | Wind Chill: 9F | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid single digits. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 6F. Winds light and variable.
17:10 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Alerts: ::  ...Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon Friday to 9 am CST Saturday... The National Weather Service in Nashville has issued a Winter Storm Warning for ice and snow...which is in effect from noon Friday to 9 am CST Saturday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in effect. * Timing...noon Friday
17:10 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Forecast: :: Thu: Partly Cloudy (16F/6F) | Fri: Snow (27F/24F) | Sat: Rain (45F/39F) | Sun: Chance of Rain (39F/24F)
17:10 <@Bahhumbug> Damn it.  Ice here, too.
17:10 <@oddball> Actually, even though my kilt is acrylic instead of proper wool, it was warm enough.
17:10 <@oddball> @weather 37013
17:11 < PigBot> oddball: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
17:11 <@GateKeeper> oddball: Antioch, TN :: Clear :: 20F | Wind Chill: 9F | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid single digits. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low 6F. Winds light and variable.
17:11 <@Bahhumbug> You don't have alerts enabled I suspect
17:11 <@Bahhumbug> @weather 37013
17:11 < PigBot> Bahhumbug: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
17:11 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Antioch, TN :: Clear :: 20F (Humidity: 44%) | Wind Chill: 9F | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid single digits. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low 6F. Winds light and variable.
17:11 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Alerts: ::  ...Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon Friday to 9 am CST Saturday... The National Weather Service in Nashville has issued a Winter Storm Warning for ice and snow...which is in effect from noon Friday to 9 am CST Saturday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in effect. * Timing...noon Friday
17:11 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Forecast: :: Thu: Partly Cloudy (24F/6F) | Fri: Snow (30F/25F) | Sat: Rain (43F/37F) | Sun: Overcast (37F/22F)
17:11 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, yer boned.
17:11 <@Bahhumbug> GateKeeper, part
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17:11 <@oddball> If only I had a proper great kilt...
17:11 < Peaches84> That's good Oddball at least the snow isn't deep enough to have frozen ball syndrome lol
17:13 < Peaches84> Don't you just love it when it goes from watch to warning i mean even the sound of it makes me giggle like a little school girl WRONG lol
17:20 <@Dagmar> I now haz a Galaxy 5
17:21 <@Dagmar> Jesus.
17:21 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to get some vinyl dye.
17:21 <@Dagmar> The charging cable is *white*
17:22 < dfused> racist
17:22 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: did you get the $200 craigslist, "no it didn't fall off a truck and no it isn't stolen", special?
17:23 <@Dagmar> No, I got a new phone
17:25 <@Dagmar> Someone told me earlier today all the cables were white and I thought they were kidding me
17:25 <@Dagmar> So, now it's time to order a badonka battery and a matte screen protector and possibly a black charging cable
17:29 < aestetix> fucking comcsat
17:29 < Peaches84> yeah they are pissing me off today
17:30 <@Evilpig> s/today//
17:30 <@Evilpig> fixed that for you
17:30 < dfused> heh
17:40 <@oddball> Yep.  Samsung went the Apple route and has gone with all white cables.
17:41 <@Evilpig> I'd make the joke that they just bought up all the cables that apple didn't want but... asshats love that proprietary connector bullshit
17:42 <@oddball> Peaches84: I take it yesterday's maintenance didn't fix the stability issues?
17:43 < aestetix> I hate white cables
17:43 <@Evilpig> s/cables/people/
17:43 <@Evilpig> there I fixed that for you too
17:43 < aestetix> lol
17:43 <@Dagmar> You've been spending too much time looking at Tumblr if you're now declaring white people to be evil
17:43 < Peaches84> i would say not they said something about doing scheduled work but they always say that even if they don't say anything to you ahead of time. It's just it will get really slow then freeze then everything is fine and your like get the gasoline this shits getting burned up i am done.
17:44 < aestetix> I wonder how many tumblr blogs get created and are active for like two days and then are abandoned
17:45 < Peaches84> actually it's /stupid/people/don't know their job so they go set in white trucks/vans and drink a soda and play games on their phone lol
17:45 < Peaches84> a ton i am sure
18:22 < RangerZ2> aestetix: most social media accounts (esp. dating sites) are like that
18:44 < aestetix> ok
18:44 < aestetix> RangerZ2: in a representative democracy, what does the word "represent" mean?
18:47 < RangerZ2> better question what is a "person"
18:48 < RangerZ2> thats where the US is falling apart
18:48 < RangerZ2> 197(6~9) SCOTUS said that "corporations" are "people" therefore they can contribute to political campaigns
18:51 < RangerZ2> http://sourcefed.com/illustrator-imagines-disney-characters-in-50-shades-of-grey-red-room/
18:51 < RangerZ2> hahaha
18:51 <@Dagmar> I'm not even pulling that up
18:53 < RangerZ2> I'm trying to summon notlarry
18:54 <@Bahhumbug> Good luck with that.
18:55 <@Bahhumbug> I would still like someone to explain to me why it is that he is gone and yet that useless, crazy and toxic waste of carbon Amber is still present.
18:56 <@Dagmar> Because he's a non-confrontational type of guy
18:56 <@Dagmar> ...and he knows I'll have heard about it by now.
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> I accept that.
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> I don't accept the community itself accepting it.
18:56 <@Dagmar> That craven and destructive stunt _will_ be addressed at the next meeting.
18:57 <@Dagmar> I don't think they are
18:57 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not seeing anyone calling for her head on a stake.
18:57 <@Dagmar> One of the factors in play here is an unspoken "Trust me, it's offensive"
18:58 <@Dagmar> How many people do you think are yet actually aware she pulled that stunt, and if they are, are they aware of _specifically_ what was said?
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> I couldn't possibly hazzard a guess.
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> Under 10 would be a safe bet.
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> But yet.  Not a single head/stake call.
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> It's his choice to do as he believes is right.
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> I completely respect that.
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> But....
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> tar/feathers?  I'll buy.
18:59 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure it's with good reason she brought it up at a _board_ meeting where there were fewer people around to question it
19:00 <@Bahhumbug> I don't know Elonka.  Is she going to get swayed by Amber's psychotic ramblings?
19:00 <@Dagmar> Not if people call Amber out on it
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> And yet...
19:04 < RangerZ2> other than the notlarry thing... things with crazypants/dru have been proceeding better than planned
19:05 < RangerZ2> dru missing his 7 day 'report' , is just he -himself - putting his head on a pike
19:07 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66k2QXgNH_M
19:07 < PigBot> Title: YouTube to Launch Subscription Service for Ad-Free Videos - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:08 <@Bahhumbug> Dru?  Who is Dru?
19:08 <@Bahhumbug> He's the one that used to be semi-relevant, right?
19:09 <@Bahhumbug> Does he have the intellect to understand he has already been ousted?
19:10 < RangerZ2> i don't know...
19:10 < RangerZ2> I think he used to
19:10 < RangerZ2> but he might have smoked too much pot
19:10 < RangerZ2> b/c he accused _dagmar_ of that...
19:10 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, no.
19:10 <@Dagmar> I can barely even call myself a pot smoker anymore
19:10 <@Dagmar> I haven't had any in months
19:11 <@Bahhumbug> Suckage.
19:11 <@Dagmar> Yeah well, things to do
19:11 <@Bahhumbug> I just got a care package from Portland.  Blue Magnum.  Big ass jar full of it.
19:11 <@Dagmar> ...and I was never anything much more than a light smoker to begin with
19:11  * Bahhumbug nods
19:12 <@Bahhumbug> I never pictured you as a burn-out.
19:12 <@Dagmar> ...aside from a few years during the rave days, when I was involved in some collegiate-level bong hit competitions.
19:12 <@Dagmar> I happen to prefer keeping my wits at least _mostly_ together
19:12 <@Dagmar> I like a mild buzz, but being incapacitated or even close to it is just not my thing
19:13 <@Dagmar> Smoking myself retarded is boring after about 15 minutes.  *shrug*
19:13 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: is that when you said "I'm that asshole" ? lol
19:13 <@Dagmar> Hrm?
19:13 < RangerZ2> about your cloths
19:13 < RangerZ2> clothes
19:13 <@Dagmar> Oh, yeah, but that was not the weed
19:13 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ2: http://stuff.gerdesas.com/images/anything.jpg
19:13 <@Dagmar> That was LSD miscalibrating my "weird-shit-o-meter"
19:14 <@Dagmar> It still looked awesome on the dance floor
19:14 <@Dagmar> heheh
19:14 <@Dagmar> There's just a large dependency on _not_ having a fit of self-conciousness
19:15 <@Dagmar> The moment you think "I'm dressed like a six-foot-tall muppet in public" you're done
19:20 <@Bahhumbug> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/
19:20 < PigBot> Title: The Great SIM Heist: How Spies Stole the Keys to the Encryption Castle (at firstlook.org)
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19:26 <@Evilpig> my buddy jason just sent me this and I lol'd   https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tldr/giepilabiomhlcmlefmbfkgeoccfhhhc?hl=en-US
19:26 < PigBot> Title: TLDR - Chrome Web Store (at chrome.google.com)
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19:44 < RangerZ2> Evilpig: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/02/the-new-3ds-vs-wii-graphics-comparison-youve-been-waiting-for/
19:44 < RangerZ2>  Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is actually worth buying after watching this
19:45 < RangerZ2> because you know... you can actually fucking BUY the damn game...
19:45 < RangerZ2> and not pay ~100$ for it on the wii
19:45 < dfused> anyone use citrix xenserver?
19:45 < dfused> just curious if its worth tinkering with and possibly setting up home setup.
19:46 < RangerZ2> dfused: yes/no/no
19:46 < RangerZ2> ;)
19:47 < dfused> heh...alright
19:47 < dfused> then I'll stick with virtualbox
19:47 < RangerZ2> yes/depends/depends is more like it
19:47 < RangerZ2> are you planning on using an OS that xen supports? and do you need 'that' type of hypervisor?
19:48 < RangerZ2> the OS thing is most likely a moot point
19:48 < RangerZ2> but any hypervisor like xen requries kernel level support in the guest OSs
19:49 < dfused> hrm...sounds like too much damn hassle
19:50 < RangerZ2> plus xen doesn't creation 'virtual machines' it is a hypervisor
19:50 < RangerZ2> similar to docker on linux
19:50 < RangerZ2> 'sorta'
19:50 < dfused> meh...
19:50 < RangerZ2> docker is a os-level virtualization(hypervisor)
19:51 < RangerZ2> if you've never played with xen, and are looking for a job mang. data center stuff, you'll probably want to know it
19:51 < RangerZ2> I 'use' it, and measure it, and what not, but don't administer it
19:52 < dfused> wasn't planning on 'studying' for any careeer purpose.. just was looking for something interesting to fuck with to keep my 3rd mental stream busy
19:53 < RangerZ2> i'd recommend docker than instead
19:53 < RangerZ2> since I foresee that being integrated into a core OS at some point soon
19:54 < dfused> hrm..looks neat
19:54 < RangerZ2> if not "docker" than something like it
19:57 <@Bahhumbug> vbox is a shitty toy.  xen server is not.
19:58 <@Bahhumbug> And no, it's not docker.  docker is a container system, xen is a full fledged pvm/hvm hypervisor.
19:58 <@Dagmar> I'm _quite_ happy with Genymotion
19:59 <@Bahhumbug> Looks interesting if one has need for such a thing.
20:01 <@Dagmar> Well, it'll run an Android emulator on an AMD machine without it being slow as crap
20:01 <@Bahhumbug> $350 a year seeme a little steep for a full-featured version, though.
20:01 <@Dagmar> yeah but for personal use it's free with a moderate set of images available
20:01 <@Bahhumbug> Right.
20:02 <@Dagmar> understand that I kind of do my code quality checking by testing each little piece as I wire it in
20:02 <@Dagmar> ...so, this actually becomes slow as molasses if you can't just snap your fingers for a fresh vm
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20:09 <@frosty> Just got done lighting off some fireworks.
20:10 <@frosty> It's currently 10, and feels like1
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20:16 < RangerZ> frosty: do you mean temp outside, or time? or are you drunk?
20:16 < RangerZ> or all of the above? lol
20:19 <@Dagmar> "Hey look!  It's not so cold fire doesn't work!"
20:20 <@frosty> Dagmar were you the person up the hill? That's what I said!
20:20 <@frosty> and I'm talking the temp....
20:20 <@frosty> fncold
20:20 <@Dagmar> lol @ NOAA
20:21 <@Dagmar> "WINTER IS COMING"
20:21 <@Dagmar> frosty: No, but I've seen people do that before
20:21 < dfused> \o/
20:21 <@Dagmar> Freezing cold air makes their sound _carry_
20:21 <@Dagmar> ...and I can totally understand the thinking
20:22 <@frosty> I could hear the fireworks carcases falling into the trees
20:22 <@Dagmar> When it's in the single digits at night I'm looking around seeing the frost on the ground and I can't shake the feeling that it's just so cold the atmosphere is now crystallizing and falling to the ground
20:22 <@Dagmar> It's so cold it just feels unnatural
20:23 <@frosty> For me it's that the super cold temp makes the lighter not work so well. Less pressure.
20:23 <@Dagmar> <-- Zippo
20:24 <@frosty> XD
20:24 <@Dagmar> I kind of don't mess about when I leave the house if the environment itself is capable of killing me
20:24 < dfused> lol
20:24 < dfused> thats always...
20:24 <@Dagmar> No, some of the time the environment is pretty amenable to human life
20:25 <@Dagmar> Like say, late spring
20:25 < dfused> its always trying to kill us
20:25 <@Dagmar> When you can just die from being exposed to it for an hour, that's a problem
20:25 <@frosty> Heh. While that was painful, I used to expose my self to these temps for hours and hours.
20:26 <@Dagmar> Dude I had to walk home from a rave once at 8am Sunday morning when there was ice on the ground
20:26 <@Dagmar> Never.  Again.
20:26 <@frosty> ............
20:26 <@frosty> LOL
20:26 < dfused> yeah...its kinda nice reading about it up there.  it's gonna get down to 20 here and thats fucking cold...but you guys make it sound not so bad
20:26 <@Dagmar> I was wearing linen pants and two cotton t-shirts
20:26 <@frosty> Hmm. I need some D cell batteries. It's -20 and the store is 45 minutes day.
20:26 <@Dagmar> ...and I basically *had* to wear that hat, because it was the warmest piece of clothing I had
20:26  * frosty grabs wind breaker and starts walking
20:27 <@Dagmar> Now when I go out, I dress as if I expect to have to walk back
20:28 <@Dagmar> ...which is actually pretty handy for things like Ingress or helping stuck people
20:28 < dfused> hehe
20:28 <@Dagmar> Oh lordy someone left their white ricemobile on the inside embankment of I-40 to I-440
20:29 <@Dagmar> It is literally covered in snow boogers
20:29 <@Dagmar> ...and thanks to it's choice location _under_ the overpass, it may not even thaw out on Saturday
20:29 <@frosty> oh man. not smart.
20:30 <@Dagmar> It's going to be there for a _while_ unless they want to break out some mining picks
20:30 < dfused> blowtorch
20:30 <@frosty> Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to wor... Where's my car?
20:30 <@Dagmar> It's not "merely" covered in ice
20:31 <@Dagmar> It's at the center of a large mound of it about up to the windows
20:31 <@Evilpig> at least they can be sure it isn't gonna get towed.
20:31 <@Dagmar> Its entombed.
20:31 <@Dagmar> Yup
20:31 <@Dagmar> That car ain't goin' _nowhere_ until that melts
20:31 <@Dagmar> Meanwhile, today I learned that I can actually fall on ice
20:32 <@Dagmar> It takes a sloped sidewalk covered in ice, with water dripping on it
20:33 <@Dagmar> I landed half on my back and half on my butt and just busted out laughing
20:33 <@frosty> Owie.
20:33 <@Dagmar> It didn't hurt
20:33 <@frosty> Good.
20:33 <@Dagmar> I just barely splashed my coffe
20:33 <@frosty> Now that I know that..
20:33 <@frosty> HAHAHA YOU FELL
20:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's why I laughed
20:33 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  watch more arrow.... or... mars attacks.
20:34 <@frosty> It's the banana effect. You see it and think, meh I got this. And then VWUUMP PLOP
20:34 <@Dagmar> I've literally been stepping over barriers someone's put up around "dangerous" ice for days
20:34 <@Dagmar> But you know... a _downslope_ covered with wet ice is a notch above what my shoes were made for
20:35 <@Dagmar> It was dry when I came through there the first time
20:35 <@Dagmar> The saving grace is that I was trying to duck out from under the icy water sprinkling down on my head
20:36 <@Dagmar> I also sort of blasted a crater in the ice which was _hilarious_
20:36 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: One of my dogs did that earlier.
20:36 < _NSAKEY> He slipped at the bottom of the steps and fell.
20:36 <@Dagmar> Soviet hacker falls on ice, ice get hurt
20:37 < _NSAKEY> There's a small crater where he landed.
20:37 <@Dagmar> It's all sort of crumbly from having come down as pellets
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> Anyone ever dicked around with kexec loading of another kernel under linux?
20:46 <@Bahhumbug> In theory I can have it boot a pxe kernel and have it do a kickstart install off a local mirror, right?
20:47 <@Dagmar> Not any more than having looked into it once
20:47 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, pretty much the same here.
20:48 <@Bahhumbug> Oh well, time to get baked and experiment.
20:49 <@Bahhumbug> Hmmm... if that works... I should be able to pxe boot the xen center install image as well.
20:49 <@Bahhumbug> And that would make my life so much easier...
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21:31 < dfused> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-QRUbvIgAAXEg2.jpg
21:31 < dfused> just for you guys up north in the ice/snow
21:32 < dfused> sfw
21:32 < RangerZ> dfused: you mean nashville tomorrow too?
21:32 < dfused> heh...yeah that too
21:32 < RangerZ> freezing rain/snow tomorrow starting around noon
21:33 < RangerZ> but what I want to know is why are they calling it 'freezing rain' when its  like 25 out
21:34 < RangerZ> i'm used to freezing rain...  around 30
21:34 < RangerZ> but ehh
21:34 < dfused> weather ppl know more than you do
21:35 < RangerZ> i wonder about that sometimes
21:35 < dfused> tru
21:35 < RangerZ> its just interesting how the weather patterns here are so 'wtf' compared to other places
21:36 < RangerZ> its not like there is the great lakes or anything else able to really influence it either
21:36 < dfused> its the mtns
21:36 < dfused> they fuck up teh flow
21:45 <@sasquatc4> hehe, the news people here, its that awkward tension before the storm, since its at 7-14in right now
21:53 < RangerZ> lol
21:54 < RangerZ> sasquatc4: are you talking about a storm or a porno or something crazypants threatened to rape a couple guys with?
22:11 < dfused> i want a cigarette
22:15 <@Dagmar> damnit http://www.tested.com/tech/accessories/461863-best-usb-car-charger-today/
22:15 < PigBot> Title: The Best USB Car Charger Today - Tested (at www.tested.com)
22:16 <@Dagmar> Yes, that is the precise charger I have.  So... that's confirmation I have to use a cheaper USb adapter in the car.  pfft.
22:16 < dfused> doh
22:16 < dfused> thats what you get for upgrading
22:19 <@Dagmar> Yeah I thought there might be some simple solution
22:19 <@oddball> So... apparently it disturbs Naienko when I sing along with the radio while navigating a road that's completely covered in ice.
22:20 <@Dagmar> hehehe
22:20 < dfused> a littel to calm and collect when you're supposed to be white knuckle?
22:21 <@oddball> yep, pretty much
22:21 < RangerZ> [BUT BE WARNED: IT WON'T WORK WITH A GALAXY S5.]
22:21 < RangerZ> [because fuck Dagmar]
22:21 < dfused> lmfao
22:21 < RangerZ> wow... that article got very personal
22:22 <@Dagmar> Just about
22:22 <@oddball> that article?
22:22 < RangerZ> the one Dagmar just linked
22:22 <@oddball> oh, the best USB chrager one?
22:22 <@oddball> (I just did a scroll back)
22:22 <@Dagmar> Like, I see it and I see that these people _really_ liked my choice of adapter, but literally for reasons NO ONE UNDERSTANDS my new model Samsung Shiny ignores it
22:22 <@Dagmar> ...which I saw happening with Nadia
22:23 <@Dagmar> Later i'm going to go out there with the USB 3 charging cable and take another look
22:24 <@Dagmar> Damn it tho it really is a _nice_ adapter
22:24 <@Dagmar> There's no wiggle because it fits almost entirely in the socket
22:24 <@oddball> Wow... that is kind of a "fuck Dagmar" article.
22:28 <@Dagmar> I may heve to get freaky with some USB pigtails and the multimeter to find out but I'll figure it out
22:50 < dfused> well damn.. apparently 256M isn't enoughn to run gnome-unity lol
23:06 <@Dagmar> Umm.. No.
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