--- Log opened Tue Feb 17 00:00:32 2015 00:01 < aestetix> it was a sort of variety show 00:01 < aestetix> well, is 00:01 < aestetix> since I'm giving a talk at it on thursday 00:01 < aestetix> apparently it went on hiatus for a few months because the guy running it was sick 00:05 <@RangerZ> is this like the 5min talks where every 30 seconds the slides change? 00:05 <@RangerZ> also... http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-train-derailment-west-virginia-20150216-story.html 00:05 < PigBot> Title: State of emergency declared in West Virginia after train derails, explodes - LA Times (at www.latimes.com) 00:06 < aestetix> no 00:06 < aestetix> it's just you have 5 minues to talk 00:06 <@RangerZ> ahh 00:06 < aestetix> I hate the autoadvance slides 00:07 <@RangerZ> http://igniteshow.com/howto 00:07 < PigBot> Title: Testing How-to Layout (at igniteshow.com) 00:07 <@RangerZ> thats what I was thinking of 00:07 < aestetix> right 00:07 <@RangerZ> 20slides, 15sec each 00:07 < aestetix> yeah, it was inspired by braddy 00:07 < aestetix> brady forrest I think 00:07 * RangerZ shrugs 00:07 <@RangerZ> I like it 00:08 < aestetix> of course 5 minutes turns into "5-ish" 00:08 <@oddball> Damn... apparently I-24 near 840 on the east side of town is closed due to wrecks. 00:08 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzbugxXQjk4 00:08 < PigBot> Title: New Test Shows NO TRACE of Gun Residue on Dead Argentine Prosecutors Hands - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:09 <@RangerZ> yeah.... Argentina just had a hitman hit 00:12 <@RangerZ> holy shit... Thailand STI infection rate has 5x in the last 10 years.... b/c they use condoms bigger than what they need... and they fall off... b/c the 'right' size is shamefully small, lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8G3j3LFXzE 00:12 < PigBot> Title: Hidden Dangers of Magnum Condoms - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:13 <@oddball> It's extra special fun when the news decides to use a picture of a flipped vehicle in front of your freeway exit. 00:16 <@RangerZ> http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002R9HQLI/ so I figured I'd mention, this monitor arm has worked wonders for me 00:16 <@RangerZ> 56$ and supports 2x 24" monitors 00:17 <@RangerZ> I'm only using it for 1x24" monitor right now, to move my monitor forward over the desk (with no desk space used up so I can slide keyboard up there and use rest of desk for work, etc) 00:27 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 00:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 01:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 01:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 01:53 <@Dagmar> http://bitbashing.io/2015/02/16/shipping-culture.html 01:53 < PigBot> Title: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us (at bitbashing.io) 02:11 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:30 <@RangerZ> so... should I throw some grenades tonight? lol 02:42 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn16vHYv1BE 02:42 < PigBot> Title: 11th Finger Ad - FastCaps Push Stick - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:42 <@RangerZ> if anyone does woodworking, there is a free push-stick for signing up on their mailing list 02:42 <@RangerZ> if anyone is interested 02:47 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 02:50 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has joined #se2600 03:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 03:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 03:45 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:35 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:35 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyAEgGztouI well damn.... 05:35 < PigBot> Title: After Prosecutors Death, Argentine President Formally Accused of Jewish Bombing Coverup - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 07:57 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 07:57 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:57 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 07:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:03 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:04 <@Evilpig> those roads are shitteh... 08:05 <@Evilpig> anyone know if dolemite has power back yet? 08:10 <@CRasH180> Not I 08:10 <@CRasH180> Did a check around the house and could barely get out of the gate it was so thick with ice 08:12 <@Evilpig> no blowtorch 08:12 <@Evilpig> ? 08:12 <@CRasH180> Heh, I would not trust myself with a blowtorch 08:14 <@Evilpig> hrmm. I think I need to make a widget for what I was working with last night. 08:17 <@CRasH180> What will the widgets purpose be? 08:20 <@Evilpig> just reading and altering data on screen. pretty simple. just easier if I make it into a widget 08:39 <@Evilpig> heh. my dad is watching war games 08:43 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: apparently TN has called in the national guard over this ice/etc 08:44 <@RangerZ> my mom called me all freaked out b/c she heard that on the news this morning 08:44 <@Evilpig> that does tend to happen when the state gets covered in ice. look back at 2008? I think 08:44 <@RangerZ> and southwest airlines has shut down its hub here in nashville, cancelling ALL flights today 08:47 <@RangerZ> thing is... I stayed in this weekend out of choice... and now... I'm low on food :/ 08:47 <@RangerZ> so gonna have to venture out 08:48 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #se2600 08:50 < n00gums> Good luck finding any bread or milk... 08:51 <@RangerZ> nah, the walmart neer me is about the most ghetto one i've ever seen, no one has made it there yet 08:51 <@RangerZ> lol 08:53 < n00gums> So, that means it'll be out of beer, then? 08:57 <@Evilpig> there will be beer, no 40's though 08:59 < n00gums> So no Schlitz? Man, that sucks. Dunno how you'll survive a winterpocalypse without Schlitz... 09:02 -!- RattleX [~rattle@104.207.192.98] has joined #se2600 09:02 -!- RattleX [~rattle@104.207.192.98] has quit [Client Quit] 09:07 <@RangerZ> man... 1 inch of ice on my trunk... which was the side farthest away from the building... 09:07 <@RangerZ> parking lot is a joke... too 09:08 <@RangerZ> gonna let the car up and get the ice off the car either way, and walk down to the road... good 1/3 of a mile.... and see how the road is... :/ 09:08 <@RangerZ> s/car up/car warm up 09:18 <@opticron> RangerZ, did you see asus is releasing some new ultrabooks at MWC? 09:18 <@CRasH180> It is icy 09:18 <@CRasH180> The grass, the road, everything is covered in ice 09:19 <@opticron> yeah...everything is crunchy today 09:19 <@CRasH180> Well, at least here in South Nashville 09:19 <@CRasH180> Just got back from Chicago on Saturday and it was -3 degrees. 09:20 <@CRasH180> or was it -5 09:20 < Synx|hm_> i have a feeling cane ridge road is going to be impassible until sunday 09:20 < Synx|hm_> i see people attempting it but i ventured out for about 5min yesterday in the suby and its not at all worth the risk 09:21 <@CRasH180> Whatever, it was negative. I stopped to get some gas and went into the gas station shivering and my teeth chattering. The guy behind me in line said "this is nothing, I am down from Alaska. It is negative 40 degrees there" 09:21 <@CRasH180> Nope 09:21 <@CRasH180> Stay home, if you can. 09:22 < Synx|hm_> wife works in downtown luckely the dr she works for closed yesterday and today, but im not sure the guy is going to close for a week 09:22 <@CRasH180> omg, I hate filling out job applications 09:22 < Synx|hm_> he may just have to survive without her because i really dont feel comfortable letting her drive in this 09:38 < Synx|hm_> ugh i have a fever and all night long sweat so bad the sheats were soaked but i was shaking from chill 09:44 <@RangerZ> yeah, I just threw a 25lb bag of salt out on the walkway/steps 09:44 < Synx|hm_> thats great to get you into the street but its the street that i am worried about here lol 09:45 < Synx|hm_> im begining to realize cane ridge gets no salt/plow service 09:45 < Synx|hm_> not that salt would even work as it gets colder today 09:47 <@RangerZ> nah it would 09:48 <@RangerZ> salt works til -5 09:48 <@RangerZ> below that.... 09:48 <@RangerZ> you need beet juice 09:48 < Synx|hm_> ahh thats what your comment was about yesterday i get it now 09:48 <@RangerZ> (sugar beet waste water from when they soak the beets in water ... and the water has sugars in it) 09:49 <@RangerZ> (the 'red' color was kinda a joke... like it was 'beet' juice, lol 09:49 < Synx|hm_> ;) 09:49 <@RangerZ> but you CAN use crushed beets, and on city near me back home did that 09:50 <@RangerZ> and the roads DID look like Dagmar snapped 09:50 <@RangerZ> lol 09:50 < Synx|hm_> ha nice 09:50 <@RangerZ> also, the sugar is great for adding to salt, since it makes the salt not move b/c it basically has molasses coating the salt 09:51 <@RangerZ> so salt trucks leave the salt "ON" the road instead of in the gutter 09:52 <@Evilpig> bitch bitch bitch, moan moan moan. that's all i'm hearing out of y'all 09:52 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna take my DS and go consult the library. now 09:52 <@RangerZ> need to look up how to get restraining orders lifted in NJ now? 09:53 <@Evilpig> btw, RangerZ, I had to disable the auto brightness shit. the tv and the ds itself were providing varying light levels that were making it go up and down constantly 09:53 <@RangerZ> yeah, thats the first thing I did, b/c it was a joke 09:54 <@Evilpig> I'll be damned. I figured surely consult the library would be in urban dictionary but it is 09:54 <@Evilpig> isn't* 09:54 <@Evilpig> you might also know it by "dropping the kids off at the pool" 09:55 <@RangerZ> no, I legit thought you were going to a library 09:55 <@RangerZ> lol 09:55 <@RangerZ> seemed odd 09:55 <@RangerZ> figured they had free popcorn or something 09:55 <@RangerZ> my undergrad does the first week of school , to get people to be familiar with the library,lol 10:02 <@Evilpig> the running joke is some people do all/most of their reading in the shitter, making it the library 10:02 < Synx|hm_> i do about 100% of my redditing in the shitter 10:05 <@Evilpig> as you should 10:09 <@Dickie> ass you should 10:09 <@Dickie> I'll see myself out 10:09 < dfused> dont be shitty 10:10 < dfused> >.> 10:17 < Synx|hm_> are you (wait for it) 'shitting' me? i've called it the library since i was a child... 'dad im going to ajourn to the library' 10:17 < Synx|hm_> adjourn 10:23 < n00gums> Nope. I always referenced it as "Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl" or "Dropping the kids off at the pool" or "Working something out on paper" 10:23 < dfused> ugh... fell asleep around 730 last night.. woke up around midnight..watchd tv for an hour, then didnt wake back up till 930 10:24 < Synx|hm_> lucky, i dont think ive really slept the past two night 10:24 < Synx|hm_> shaking, sweating, coughing fits 10:24 < n00gums> or "Bombing submarines" 10:24 < Synx|hm_> launching sewer pickles 10:25 < dfused> well, the past week or two I've been battling insomnia... so perhaps my body just is catching up 10:29 <@RangerZ> Dickie: I'm going to have to ask you to not insult crazypants like that 10:29 <@RangerZ> you need to put a trigger warning when you mention reading 10:30 <@RangerZ> she once read something that upset her 10:30 <@RangerZ> TA buses to resume operating on major corridors at 10 a.m. 10:31 <@RangerZ> so FUCK YOU if you're poor 10:31 <@Evilpig> sooo.... they can get to work? 10:32 <@RangerZ> many of them ride the really early buses 10:32 <@RangerZ> so they couldn't make it to work at any time before 11 or so 10:32 <@oddball> Well, TN apparently declared a state of emergency last night. 10:34 <@RangerZ> oddball: my mom was saying national guard were called out 10:34 < Synx|hm_> good because expecting people to be at work yesterday and today and likely the remainder of this week, unless they live near serviced roads/freeways should be criminal 10:34 <@RangerZ> to get power to dolomite... 10:34 <@oddball> I-24 west near me was shut down, and there was a section of I-40 west of Nashville that was so badly fucked up that TEMA showed up and was handing out water and survival kits. 10:34 < Synx|hm_> jesus 10:35 <@RangerZ> I'm basically fucked when it comes to food... so I'm going to hike it the 1.3 miles to the bus stop... and get subway near there... then ride into work.... 10:35 < Synx|hm_> people are too stupid to know any better and get on the roads, or their work puts such pressure on them they feel they dont have a choice 10:35 <@RangerZ> the 'roads' are apparently "ok" in a lot of places... just where they _aren't_ they ARE NOT.... 10:36 <@RangerZ> the maint. guy just drove in and said that broadmoor was clean 10:36 <@oddball> And people are stupid. 10:36 <@RangerZ> ^that 10:37 <@oddball> http://www.wsmv.com/story/28123418/state-of-emergency-declared-in-tn-due-to-winter-weather#ixzz3RyNYgy5P 10:37 < PigBot> Title: State of emergency declared in TN due to winter weather - WSMV Channel 4 (at www.wsmv.com) 10:38 < dfused> bunch of damn panzies 10:38 <@oddball> There was apparently a 12+mile backup near Dickson last night. 10:39 <@RangerZ> that all? 10:39 <@RangerZ> i remember in 2012? the 85 car pile up on 65 10:39 <@RangerZ> or w/e it was 10:39 <@Evilpig> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 10:39 <@Evilpig> "An email you sent has been blocked because of the following rule: Inbound Blocked Profanities One Word" 10:39 <@RangerZ> fog+black ice + people going 65+ when they couldn't see more than 6 car lengths infront of them 10:40 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: where did you email? 10:40 <@RangerZ> and how dare you slack 10:40 <@RangerZ> and only swear ONCE 10:40 <@RangerZ> you're slipping 10:40 <@RangerZ> lol 10:40 < dfused> haha 10:41 <@Evilpig> oh this is fantastic! I will be posting this shit everywhere 10:41 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ff3jqewi4hexkez/Screen%20Shot%202015-02-17%20at%2010.39.56%20AM.png?dl=0 10:41 < Synx|hm_> wife and i are so sick she wants to goto dr today, i said if she even wants to attempt we have to drop the kid off at my sisters (block away) and skate our way to the dr but we might not make it there or back 10:41 <@oddball> RangerZ: Didn't see the details, but apparently there was "a number" of accidents on I24 near me. 10:41 < Synx|hm_> im wearing a winter parka in a house thats 75 and shaking uncontrollably 10:42 <@oddball> RangerZ: Must have been an official work email. 10:42 <@oddball> Synx|hm_: eek. Suck. 10:43 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm_: stop listening to 180 BPM techno and eating shrooms then 10:44 < Synx|hm_> solid life advice 10:45 < Synx|hm_> oh sweet the sun is melting the sleet/snow/ice again so it can refreeze yet again tonight 10:45 < Synx|hm_> lovely 10:47 <@oddball> yep 10:48 <@oddball> And my indoor/outdoor cat insisted on going out this morning. She left no footprints on the white stuff... so... not snow. 10:49 < Synx|hm_> lol yep, "oh hey look snow yay!!!" (runs out into front yard for snow angles)... "zomg no deadly sharp grass needles ahhhhhh" 10:50 < Synx|hm_> i dont get it, keep seeing unweighted down pickup trucks rolling up my street (that dont have a 4x4 sticker but hard to say for sure), what are these morons thinking 10:50 <@oddball> "I'm in a pickup! I don't have to care!" 10:51 < Synx|hm_> they are flooring it just to keep up enough speed to get up the tiny hill on our street 10:51 < Synx|hm_> never mind there are hills twice as steep soon as you get on to caneridge 10:51 < Synx|hm_> i want to walk down to the cane ridge/franklen intersection and see how many cars are piled up there so bad 10:51 < Synx|hm_> i also keep seeing people walking back down the street, so i assume they abandon and walk home hahaha 10:51 <@oddball> The first house my parents had here was on a steep hill. Every ice storm meant watching morons in their pickups trying to get up our hill. 10:52 <@oddball> I'll never forget the couple that allllmost made it, then started frantically spinning their wheels as they started sliding backwards. 10:52 < Synx|hm_> ya, i have a 2wd small pickup on the street (that i couldn't even move to my driveway if i wanted to) im waiting for one of these assclowns to smash into it 10:54 <@oddball> I need to remember to take the alternate route to TKD tonight. I don't like the idea of going down the hill on Haywood where it hits Nolensville. 10:57 <@CRasH180> oddball: Yeah, I would avoid hills if possible. Wait! We live in TN, hills are everywhere 10:57 <@oddball> Oops... I'm guessing that Williamson County has run out of salt. They're requesting more from the state. 10:57 -!- noogums [~n00gums@24-196-6-151.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:58 <@CRasH180> Or, about to run out 10:58 <@oddball> CRasH180: Yeah... There's no way to avoid any hills, but I can hopefully not go sledding at high speed into a busy intersection. 10:58 <@CRasH180> This is true 10:58 <@oddball> 'cause Haywood is on a pretty steep one going into that intersection. 10:59 <@oddball> Actually... Murfreesboro to Bell, to Nolensville shouldn't be too bad hill wise. 10:59 <@CRasH180> true 11:00 -!- n00gums [~n00gums@24-196-6-151.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:00 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@adsl-98-66-38-122.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:02 <@oddball> Huh... apparently my trash day is now Saturday for this week. 11:04 <@CRasH180> Yeah, they will probably move ours as well. Imagine a trash truck losing control on the ice and slamming through someone's house. That would be a mess 11:05 < dfused> but great to wwatch 11:05 < Synx|hm_> ha mine didn't bother to call but i didn't put it out today anyways 11:09 <@oddball> Someone posted a link to the city's announcement on FB. 11:22 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-253-143.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 11:22 <@Dolemite> OMG, finally have power back 11:23 <@oddball> yay! 11:26 <@Dolemite> Fortunately the kerosene heater was able to keep the living room warm and even heat up a kettle for some hot oatmeal & hot chocolate this morning 11:27 <@oddball> cool 11:27 <@Dolemite> I was about ready to sneak over the fence - the house behind me had power, and the irony is that they have aerial power lines, while ours are all buried 11:28 <@Dolemite> I doubt they'd notice 200' of extension cord going through the back yards 11:36 <@oddball> heh 11:48 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I remember that wreck. It was at 65 and Vietnam Vets. 11:49 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I had to take the dogs out earlier, and the only time I heard crunching was when I stepped on grass blades that were poking up through the ice. 12:00 <@oddball> Which is why today is probably another "nope, not going anywhere" day. 12:01 <@oddball> If I do need to, I'll put on my stompy boots and walk. 12:15 <@Evilpig> stompy boots? is that a brand? 12:17 <@oddball> stompy boots: big, primarily leather, preferably black, sturdy boots that you could kick the shit out of something/one with and not really feel it. 12:18 <@oddball> So... either my combat boots or motorcycle boots. 12:22 <@Evilpig> oddball: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/1/10/Stampy_(Bart_Gets_an_Elephant).png/revision/latest?cb=20130523164441 ? 12:23 <@Evilpig> are they made of.... stampy? 12:24 <@oddball> I'm actually rather surprised that you've never heard the term "stompy boots." 12:28 <@oddball> huh... gmail flagged Elonka's email as spam. 12:30 <@Mirage> As often as Dagmar referred to utilizing "stompy boots" on stupid people, I find it hard to believe that you never heard the term. 12:34 <@Evilpig> heard the term, just in a shit giving mood 12:35 <@oddball> And outside of the range of my stompy boots. :p 12:35 <@Evilpig> my underlings have finally seen the wisdom in my ways for cabling. 12:35 <@Evilpig> when the lightbulb went off, it was very defined. I had to lol a little 12:40 < Synx|hm_> ok guys wish me luck, things are looking to be way worse tomorrow after all this melted water freezes again 12:40 < Synx|hm_> im going to try and get to nolesville road via the least twist and hilly road possible (grocer on nolesgville says the road is cleared and salted 12:41 < Synx|hm_> if you dont hear from me assume im dead 12:41 < Synx|hm_> its been nice knowing you 12:41 <@Evilpig> Guys, did you hear? Synx|hm_ is dead. Who's up for a field trip to go piss on his grave? 12:44 <@oddball> not sure if you guys have seen this: Social Justice Warriors, the game http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=257887508 12:44 < PigBot> Title: Steam Greenlight :: Social Justice Warriors (at steamcommunity.com) 12:44 < aestetix> oddball: yep 12:44 < aestetix> I actually bought the game, it's really lame 12:45 <@oddball> Yeah... looks stupid, but it's amusing. 12:47 <@Evilpig> i hate that you've played it 12:49 < Synx|hm_> :( 12:50 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm_: you're dead, you aren't gonna know. 12:51 < Synx|hm_> on that note snow chains in wifes car or subaru 12:51 < Synx|hm_> im kinda leaning torwards the chains 13:02 < dfused> aye 13:12 <@oddball> I'm leaning towards "fuck you, if it's not in walking distance, I'm not going." 13:28 <@Evilpig> poor macbook is hurtin' 13:28 < aestetix> speaking of macboooks 13:28 <@Evilpig> can't keep up with me running three java consoles at once and flipping between screens 13:28 <@oddball> Then stop hitting it with sticks. 13:28 < aestetix> my system seems to have forgotten how to use the battery 13:28 < aestetix> pull out the plug and it dies 13:29 < aestetix> and every fucking website tells me to go to the apple store :/ 13:29 <@benthemeek> oddball: Would you mind making an announcement to the lists about swords and boards? 13:29 <@benthemeek> Elonka was asking for someone from their leadership to do it rather than one of our board members 13:29 <@benthemeek> She and I both plan to be there saturday 13:29 < aestetix> about swords and boards? 13:29 <@oddball> Ah, absolutely. :) 13:31 <@benthemeek> I purchased my own copy of Catan and expansion Sunday :) Taught my wife and some neighbors to play it last night :) 13:31 <@oddball> You're still planning on bringing your Unreal Tourney rig? 13:31 <@benthemeek> aestetix: Its a all day board gaming thing held by hypericon this coming weekend 13:31 <@benthemeek> yes I am 13:31 <@benthemeek> but I will pay to get in to 13:31 <@benthemeek> I would like to play some board games 13:31 <@oddball> sweet. 13:32 <@oddball> Just making sure before I say so in the email. 13:36 < aestetix> Huh. Is there much crossover between Hypericon and PhreakNIC? 13:36 <@benthemeek> There are common interests 13:37 <@oddball> Actually, that reminds me that I should send an email about Hypericon to the list. :p 13:38 <@oddball> I think we're still looking for speakers, and Critch might want some more folks in the "makers room." 13:39 < aestetix> how large is hypericon? 13:44 <@oddball> About the same size as Phreaknic. 13:44 <@oddball> Well... a bit larger than PN last year, but... :p 13:44 < aestetix> haha 13:47 <@Shadow404> does elonka ever use irc? 13:47 <@Evilpig> no 13:48 < aestetix> Shes too smart for that 13:50 <@Shadow404> aestetix: ah, ok, if your an example for the average, were all screwed 13:51 < _NSAKEY> Shadow404: She said at the last meeting that she never uses IRC. 13:52 < _NSAKEY> That way if someone says "Elonka said X on IRC," she can laugh and say, "Oh, no I didn't." 13:55 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 14:04 < RangerZ1> so fuck the bus not starting until 11 'in full' 14:05 < RangerZ1> even for the limited number of buses running right now 14:05 < RangerZ1> ~2..5hrs from door-to-door from home to work 14:09 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@adsl-98-66-38-122.mem.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:10 < RangerZ1> https://www.humblebundle.com/ 14:10 < PigBot> Title: Humble Square Enix Bundle 2 (pay what you want and help charity) (at www.humblebundle.com) 14:11 < RangerZ1> Tomb Raider, Thief, Deus Ex Human rev. , Sleeping Dogs, Supreme Commander 2, Hitman absolution & go.... 14:13 < RangerZ1> I mean... these are all AAA games, kinda surprising to see Squeenix figure out that they have good games.... and that they need to get people to realize that, lol 14:23 <@oddball> Well, Squeenix is still doing pretty well off of their JRPGs (not just Final Fantasy). 14:24 <@oddball> I will admit that I'm one of those folks that go "wait... they put that out? huh." 14:26 < RangerZ1> SE is a HUGE publisher 14:26 < RangerZ1> of manga, mangazines, etc 14:27 < RangerZ1> ....which got them rained by the japanese police on behalf of SNK... 14:27 < RangerZ1> when one of the manga they were publishing went full montey on using SNK and EVERY other ~1990s video game property/manf. name 14:28 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: r00t@nashville2600.org? Really? 14:28 < RangerZ1> so the point where the next chapter of the manga had to have an ENTIRE PAGE of nothing other than (C), (R), and (TM)s , lol 14:29 <@oddball> Oh goody... two more lists to keep up with. 14:29 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: it could be worse... it could be 31337@nashville2600.org 14:30 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Or hyp3rl33tg0dX0rd00ds@nashville2600.org. 14:31 < _NSAKEY> I do have to wonder why they couldn't use root@. 14:31 < _NSAKEY> Some explanation there would be cool, since I'm using root on my domain of choice, and use google apps for it as well. 14:32 < _NSAKEY> Then again, I'm not trying to run a mailing list. It's just a snarky e-mail address for people to send things to. 14:32 < RangerZ1> also, I want to know why google groups doesn't have a 'send me an email update on every update' - option... only a 'once a day' setting 14:32 < _NSAKEY> Oh, you misread that. 14:33 < _NSAKEY> NLUG uses the same setup. 14:33 < _NSAKEY> You will get each message. 14:33 < RangerZ1> hmm 14:33 < _NSAKEY> That "1 a day" blurb is just an estimate of the mail volume. 14:33 < RangerZ1> ahh 14:33 < RangerZ1> thats misleading as hell then 14:33 <@oddball> No... they do. 14:33 < _NSAKEY> NLUG's equivalent blurb said 2 messages a day when I signed up, yet there was one day when I got about a dozen e-mails. 14:34 <@Dagmar> Too good not to share http://i.imgur.com/pK5GR9D.gifv 14:34 < PigBot> Title: Feeding time (at i.imgur.com) 14:34 <@oddball> I'm still wanting to know what was wrong with the old PN google group. 14:35 < RangerZ1> I wonder how many requests for "drukillerbutonlyfiguratively@nashville2600.org" they will have... 14:35 <@oddball> Dagmar: ahahahahahahahaha 14:35 <@oddball> Kool Aid kitty! 14:35 < dfused> OH YEAH 14:36 <@Dagmar> I don't know what that cat was trying to do, but it was funny just the same 14:36 < RangerZ1> and "amber_legal_defense_fund_for_counter_rape_charges@nashville2600.org" 14:36 <@oddball> looks like kitty succeded in finding the warm. 14:36 < RangerZ1> yeah, the cat was like 'wtf mate' after it happened 14:37 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: In the comments it says that someone threw the cat up against it. 14:37 < _NSAKEY> If you watch very closely, you can see a hand. 14:37 < _NSAKEY> Looks like the cat was pushed. 14:37 <@oddball> ahhh... that would explain that particular landing. 14:37 < RangerZ1> yeah there is definately 'something' retracting after the cat breaches the wall 14:38 < _NSAKEY> It's even tagged with "staged, abuse." 14:38 < RangerZ1> look at the far left part of where the hole is 14:38 <@oddball> abuse? Throwing the cat *into* where it's warm? 14:39 < RangerZ1> 'through snow wall' yes 14:39 < RangerZ1> depending on much ice/etc is in there 14:39 < RangerZ1> it 'could' have hurt the cat 14:39 <@oddball> pfft. The cat's fine. 14:39 < RangerZ1> just b/c your dad hitting you doesn't leave marks... doesn't make it right 14:39 < RangerZ1> lol 14:39 < _NSAKEY> It's pretty plainly hollowed out, too. 14:40 <@oddball> The only real difference in the cat's reaction to being thrown through the snow wall and being lobbed was the shaking of the snow off. 14:40 < _NSAKEY> The cat was all "HOLY FUUUU- Oh, this place is made of warm. Joy!" as it shakes the snow off. 14:40 <@oddball> yep 14:41 < _NSAKEY> That also doesn't look like the ice disguised as snow that we're contending with. 14:41 < _NSAKEY> It breaks way too easily. 14:41 <@oddball> right 14:44 < _NSAKEY> I jumped up and down on some of that ice this morning. It didn't even crack. 14:44 <@CRasH180> Yeah, I broke a piece of ice off of my car about 3 inches thick 14:44 <@CRasH180> Nashville, we have a problem 14:44 < _NSAKEY> I broke a giant chunk of ice off the roof of my car yesterday. 14:45 <@CRasH180> I was shoveling ice off of my walkway and driveway about an hour ago 14:45 < _NSAKEY> It was maybe 1/2 or 3/4 of an inch thick, and probably 2 or 2 1/2 feet around. 14:45 < _NSAKEY> No idea how much it weighed, but it was fun to throw like a giant disc and watch it shatter. 14:45 <@oddball> Hell, I yanked a sheet off my car's trunk larger than a pizza box yesterday. 14:46 < _NSAKEY> I'm not going anywhere, but have taken great care to keep the accumulated ice to a minimum. 14:47 <@oddball> I should probably finish removing ice from the car in case I actually need it. 14:48 <@oddball> I thinking about maybe walking down to the gas station just 'cause. 14:48 <@Dagmar> I'm going to call the DTO and see if they answer the phone 14:49 <@Dagmar> Sweet! They're open! 14:50 <@Dagmar> ...and don't worry, anything you clear off your car today will be back again tomorr.w 14:50 <@oddball> DTO? 14:50 <@Dagmar> Discount Tobacco Outlet 14:50 <@oddball> ah 14:50 <@Dagmar> I drove all over West Nashville yesterday between about 2pm and 4pm 14:51 <@Dagmar> ...basically, because I could. 14:51 <@Dagmar> Also tired of being cooped up in the house 14:53 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I haven't had much re-accumlation, actually. 14:53 < _NSAKEY> Tomorrow could be a different story, but there wasn't much to knock away this morning. 14:56 <@Dagmar> There will be more falling tonight at about 4am 14:58 < _NSAKEY> That's fine. I kind of enjoy chipping ice away. 14:58 <@Dagmar> I did most of the work yesterday with my hands 14:58 <@Dagmar> Just gentle thumps here and there to crack the ice and then peeled the pieces off 14:59 <@Dagmar> ...except the windows 14:59 <@oddball> yep 14:59 <@Dagmar> I wasn't planning on driving fast, but you don't make any friends by having a three foot square piece of ice peel off your roof and smash someone's windshield 14:59 <@Dagmar> Also, I needed my lights to work 15:00 <@oddball> Yeah... please remove what ice you can before driving. 15:01 <@Dagmar> The passenger's side window I was careless with 15:01 <@Dagmar> One I had the car warmed up I cut around the outline of the window, but I couldn't get the resulting sheet off 15:01 <@Dagmar> ...so I got in and rolled the window down 15:01 < _NSAKEY> I didn't remove anything from the glass until the car had warmed up a while and melted it loose. 15:01 <@oddball> Dagmar: I love doing that. 15:01 <@Dagmar> The damn piece fell in and immediately it looked like someone had broken into my car 15:01 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Notice I said "before driving," not "before turning it on." 15:02 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I know, but I was making the job of removing ice from the glass easier that way. 15:04 <@oddball> yep 15:04 < _NSAKEY> I got really lucky with that giant piece coming off the top all at once. Really wish I had gotten a picture of it. 15:07 <@Dagmar> THe one good thing about this weather is that I had exactly zero worries about someone taking my parking space 15:09 <@Evilpig> heh. I have that worry every day 15:09 <@Evilpig> I shoveled my shit out this morning cause some asshat took my clean spot yesterday 15:09 <@Evilpig> when I go home today i'll have two clean spots to shoot for, hopefully 15:16 < dfused> or just start shooting 15:18 <@oddball> Wow... apparently Comcast has decided that there's going to be a maintenance tomorrow night starting at midnight. Sure hope all that shit's *inside*. 15:18 <@oddball> dfused: People have, in fact, been shot for taking someone's cleaned out space. 15:19 < dfused> oddball: yeah.. isnt that what happened in NC ? 15:20 <@oddball> I knew that there was some dispute over parking with that event, but could never find out what the specific dispute was about. 15:20 < aestetix> RangerZ1: get a red bull 15:20 <@oddball> But it has happened in Mass and NJ, I believe. 15:21 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Reading your e-mail now. Was the time of the corydon's hard drive's death ever made clear? 15:22 < RangerZ1> don't know 15:22 < _NSAKEY> I was under the impression that they only said it was dead at the meeting, with no other details. 15:22 < RangerZ1> i really didn't care 15:22 < RangerZ1> it 'died' between -when- documents were asked for and the time documents asked to be presented 15:23 < aestetix> man 15:23 < aestetix> "Unless we are successful in collecting the balance of $1.55 in full by 02/28/2015, your Amazon Web Services account may be suspended or terminated." 15:23 < aestetix> Such a harsh tone for such a small amount 15:23 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yeah... I had that shit too 15:23 <@oddball> Because... you know... we're not in the IT industry and don't know about backups. 15:24 < _NSAKEY> While I've never dealt with postgresql, I find it hard to believe that some binary backup can't be converted to something like csv. 15:24 < aestetix> a binary backup? 15:24 < aestetix> you mean like a hot backup? ala xtrabackup? 15:25 <@oddball> Fuck that... for the most part, a monthly snapshot would have been just fine. 15:25 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I don't know details, but corydon apparently has some ancient postgres backup of the older financial stuff that's so old that it requires an old version of postgresql to be compiled. 15:25 < aestetix> uh 15:25 < RangerZ1> oddball: thats why I didn't 'care' 15:25 < RangerZ1> because if he wants me to believe he wasn't backing up his PC, or at least his _important_ documents... 15:25 < RangerZ1> 'sure' 15:25 < aestetix> I'm surprised postgres doesn't offer some kind of conversion tool 15:25 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Exactly. 15:25 <@oddball> It's not like our org sees that much financial changes from day to day. 15:26 < aestetix> mysql has a conversion tool... 15:26 < aestetix> Corydon's hdd died? 15:26 < aestetix> Put it in the freezer :p 15:26 < _NSAKEY> If mdbtools exists for converting microsoft access binary dumps to csv, there should be something for any real database too. 15:26 <@Dagmar> One _could_ also just spin up an old copy of postgres and export the databases using their marshalling tool 15:27 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Compiling an old version with the dependencies was mentioned. 15:27 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: so set up a system with an old version of an OS that supports it 15:27 < _NSAKEY> At that rate, one would think they could do something like run an old version of debian in a vm and just apt-get it. 15:27 < aestetix> right 15:27 < aestetix> Especially given that pre-2005/6 linux install CDs had a bunch of dependency libraries on disk 15:28 < RangerZ1> or fucking write the data out as _simple_ SQL commands 15:28 < RangerZ1> that can be read/used by all SQL servers 15:28 <@benthemeek> _NSAKEY: Did I read that your google aspps allowed you to use root? 15:29 <@benthemeek> I cant figure out why it says its reserved when i tried to create it 15:29 < _NSAKEY> benthemeek: My e-mail is root@abigisp.com. 15:29 <@Evilpig> because it is a reserved word for google apps. 15:29 < _NSAKEY> They didn't give me any grief over it whatsoever. 15:30 <@benthemeek> hmmm 15:30 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: that's an email address, not a list 15:30 < _NSAKEY> If they had, my e-mail would probably be something like "lol@givingyoumy.info." 15:30 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I know, and I made that distinction clear earlier. 15:30 <@benthemeek> Im sorry, I just scanned 15:31 <@Evilpig> and benthemeek, point being. all the email shit was working just fine without pointing it at google. it was only not fine after someone flipped their shit and went and broke it all 15:32 < Synx|hm_> I SURVIVED 15:32 < Synx|hm_> main roads were not too bad once i skated my way too them 15:32 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm_: Lies. You were declared dead hours ago. 15:32 < Synx|hm_> but i got on a hill leaving my neighboor hood and even with a honk and engine rev (massive exhaust leak so its loud) some fucking kids jumped on their sleds when i was already half way up 15:33 <@Dagmar> Next time roll down your window and yell "BLOOD FOR ODIN!" 15:35 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: That is true. It was hosted on your personal server though correct? 15:35 <@Evilpig> my HOSTING server 15:35 <@Evilpig> you know the one I make backups of, host shit for other people on, etc 15:36 <@Evilpig> saying shit shoudln't be hosted on personal shit is fine, but when it is a better fit than trying to shoehorn in some other shit just roll with it 15:36 <@benthemeek> If I were the board and I was trying to get the resources attached to the org and not the individuals that make it up I can see why this might be a good move though. Just thinking aloud 15:36 <@Evilpig> am I an individual that makes up any part of the organization? 15:37 * Evilpig drops the mic 15:37 <@benthemeek> Dude, I am not trying to piss you off. I am no the one that freaked out about you hosting it. I am just saying this move makes sense organizationally 15:38 < dfused> ....rm -rf ... DOOOO IIIIT! 15:39 <@Evilpig> Speak up, point out idiocy when it comes up 15:39 <@oddball> Evilpig: Just look at it this way: less responsibility for you, and one less thing that Dru can try to blame you for when he screws up again. 15:39 <@Evilpig> dru isn't gonna be involved much longer 15:39 <@Evilpig> this I can see on the wall 15:39 <@Evilpig> it's scribbled in crayon right nwo and has some odd brown stains that look like feces, but it's there 15:40 <@oddball> So, you think Elonka is going to just take a little longer to come to what my first order of business would be? 15:40 <@Evilpig> I think the response of she hasn't gotten what she requested out of dru is a sign that shit's about to get straight or get the fuck out 15:41 <@oddball> I'm also glad to see that she has the same opinion of the May event. 15:41 <@Evilpig> the may thing was a pipe dream to start with. 15:42 <@oddball> Yep. And, frankly, an admriable dream, but the org needs to be able to find its ass with both hands first. 15:43 < RangerZ1> I'm ALL for the EMP thing... just hosting it AT PN ... so we can PLAN FOR IT 15:43 <@Evilpig> if I was there I could snatch an ass with each hand. the thud they'd make when I clacked them together would be legendary.... 15:43 < RangerZ1> you know... with a website 15:43 * RangerZ1 stares at benthemeek 15:44 <@Evilpig> and by asses let me be clear... I mean people. crazypants would be oen and nerdboy the other. 15:44 * RangerZ1 asks benthemeek's wife politely to evil eye him and make him do work ;) 15:44 <@oddball> oops... crazy pants is going to call the cops on you. That's a threat of ciolence, that it! 15:45 <@Evilpig> is it violence or modern art? 15:45 < RangerZ1> god... are ALL OF OUR fingers getting fatter? 15:45 <@oddball> Nah, I never could type in the first place. 15:46 <@oddball> You should have seen the sad state of my typing/spelling when I first started hanging out here. 15:46 < aestetix> wow 15:46 < aestetix> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052qqqf 15:46 < PigBot> Title: BBC Four - Asylum (at www.bbc.co.uk) 15:50 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:52 < RangerZ1> well its not like dru was being held personally responsible for the 6k 15:52 < RangerZ1> or 5k 15:53 < RangerZ1> or w/e the 'exact' amount is 15:53 < RangerZ1> all he had to do was write a 1 page 'report' about how he fucked up 15:53 < RangerZ1> explaining it in detail step by step, etc 15:53 < RangerZ1> but I bet that just killed him on the inside to do it... 15:54 <@oddball> I thought we had at least figured out a firm number that Dink ponied up to stop the hotel from kicking us out. 15:55 < _NSAKEY> oddball: It's not even crystal clear (to me, anyway) whether the money had to be paid before or after the con. 15:56 < _NSAKEY> I just assumed it was settled up after the con, but there was a conversation with ben at NLUG that called that into question. 15:56 <@oddball> Really? I thought the story everyone was going with was that they wanted the money up front. 15:56 < _NSAKEY> Oh, if that's the story, then that agrees with what ben implied. 15:56 <@oddball> Usually we work out a deal with the hotel to pay after the event, but apparently Dru and Crazy Pants forgot that part. 16:00 < RangerZ1> oddball: I'm sure we have a firm $, but I just don't know it 16:01 < RangerZ1> I specifically have NOT been paying attention to details yet... b/c the story changes so often that I'll just get confused 16:01 < RangerZ1> thats why I'm waiting for the 'report' and eventual autopsy 16:01 < RangerZ1> lol 16:03 < _NSAKEY> What I want to know: When is Evilpig going to make good on his threats to buy plane tickets to Nashville and attend some meetings? 16:03 < _NSAKEY> If he had delivered the t-shirt invoice in person, I'm pretty sure more than a few of us would have died. 16:04 < RangerZ1> us -> includes dru and crazypants 16:04 < RangerZ1> in thats statement 16:04 < RangerZ1> lol 16:12 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 16:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 16:22 <@oddball> Ok... I need to get out of the house. Walking down to the gas station. 16:26 < Synx|hm_> use cleats the ice is nuts 16:27 < Synx|hm_> i ended up on a sled ride into the side of my sisters neighboors house, all because i happend to be holding a sled but had no intention of actually sledding 16:27 < Synx|hm_> well i slipped and landed on it and boom there i was sledding down a solid sheet of ice 16:33 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-253-143.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:51 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 16:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 16:52 <@Evilpig> okay so Shadow404 was telling me about some stupid movie. http://spacemilkshake.com/ 16:52 < PigBot> Title: Home - Space Milkshake (at spacemilkshake.com) 16:52 <@Evilpig> it has amanda tapping in it, so i'm gonna have to check it out 16:54 <@Evilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1954843/?ref_=nv_sr_1 16:54 < PigBot> Title: Space Milkshake (2012) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 16:54 <@Shadow404> hehe 16:54 <@Shadow404> giggity 16:54 <@Dagmar> Soo... 16:55 <@Dagmar> One of my neighbors was using a cast iron hatchet to clear the ice from the stairs in the breezeway 16:55 <@Evilpig> yeah I dunno. I bought it. $8 is cheap as shit 16:55 < RangerZ1> god... I don't even recognize her as a brunette 16:55 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: did it work? 16:55 <@Evilpig> yes 16:56 <@Dagmar> Well, she was getting further than I was using hte claw hammer 16:56 <@Evilpig> but did it win a darwin award? 16:56 <@Evilpig> I use a claw hammer on mine all the time 16:56 <@Dagmar> I think it was less likely to chip the cement than the happmer 16:56 <@Evilpig> I don't use the claw 16:56 <@Dagmar> er hammer 16:56 <@Evilpig> I use the business end. :D 16:56 <@Dagmar> Of couse what I was whacking was all porous so I couldn't shatter it 16:56 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: just use what I did... a 25 lb bag of rock salt 16:57 < RangerZ1> kinda anti-climactic... but it works, lol 16:57 < RangerZ1> also... windshield washer fluid (as long as no cats/dogs roam there 16:58 <@Dagmar> Assuming the kind you buy has anti-freeze in it 16:58 < RangerZ1> ? 16:58 <@Dagmar> If it's just soap and windex you'll just make a mess 16:58 < RangerZ1> umm... what? 16:58 <@Dagmar> Not all wiper fluid has anti-freeze in it 16:59 < RangerZ1> jesus christ... the south 16:59 <@Evilpig> all wiper fluid up here has deicer in it 16:59 <@CRasH180> No it doesnt 16:59 <@Evilpig> yes it does 16:59 <@CRasH180> Oh, up here 16:59 <@CRasH180> sorry, misread 16:59 < RangerZ1> ammonia is still not 'bad'.... 16:59 <@CRasH180> A blanket statement such as that requires validation 16:59 < RangerZ1> but it'll just evaporate .... 17:00 < RangerZ1> but yeah... i meant alcohol based washer fluid... 17:00 <@Evilpig> blew mty mind the first time i went to get a refill 17:02 <@Evilpig> down south in the summertime you get the bug cleaning varients. up here they still have the deicer shit. 17:02 <@Evilpig> in the winter they bring out the -32 won't freeze if you pour liquid nitrogen on it out 17:02 < aestetix> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-17/snapchat-said-to-seek-up-to-19-billion-value-in-funding-round 17:02 < PigBot> Title: Snapchat Said to Seek Up to $19 Billion Value in Funding Round - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com) 17:03 < RangerZ1> and? 17:03 < RangerZ1> thats waht you are supposed to do when you -expect- sub-0 temps 17:03 < RangerZ1> lol 17:04 <@Evilpig> just sayin' down south, winter comes a knockin' and they bring out the kinds that have deicer in them 17:04 <@Evilpig> up here they sell that shit year round 17:05 < RangerZ1> because it CAN drop below freezing -at any time- 17:05 < RangerZ1> june... you're ass is NOT safe... 17:05 < RangerZ1> because Crazypants might visit you Evilpig 17:05 < RangerZ1> ;) 17:06 < RangerZ1> but I won't threaten Evilpig with shipping her up there (other than maybe a greyhound bus ticket) 17:06 < RangerZ1> we'd probably all chip in for a one way ticket.... 17:08 <@CRasH180> megabus! 17:08 <@Bahhumbug> I'd kick in for a bus ticket for her to get out of town. I would not send her to Evilpig, however. 17:08 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix, on the other hand. 17:10 < RangerZ1> hell... we'd chip in for a flight to berlin to visit aestetix in his new place... 17:11 < RangerZ1> the needs of the many... and all that 17:11 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed. 17:12 < RangerZ1> but... we gotta be careful though... that 'could be' a war crime... 17:12 < RangerZ1> she's a crap reason to start WW3 17:13 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXtiDVYvVK8 17:13 < PigBot> Title: AYN RAND ON JOHNNY CARSON part 1 of 2 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 17:13 <@Evilpig> you're some cold bitches threatening to send that bag of crazy my direction. 17:13 <@Evilpig> anyhow, i'm outta here bitches. 17:14 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17 * oddball has returned with the essentials: milk and beer. 17:17 <@oddball> Also, there is no trace of me leaving the house. Pure ice all the way down. 17:18 < dfused> you forgot doritos you insensitive clod! 17:18 <@oddball> Those are already in the pantry. 17:18 < dfused> oh....my bad. 17:19 <@oddball> I'm not a full blown prepper, but I'm working on it. 17:28 < aestetix> what about red bull 17:29 <@oddball> You want that nasty shit, get it yourself. 17:33 < aestetix> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/izeee-touch-charger#home 17:33 < aestetix> this seems to be a little hard to believe 17:34 < RangerZ1> converts mechanical input to electricity 17:34 < RangerZ1> not 'that' hard to believe 17:35 < RangerZ1> hard to believe it is EFFICIENT 17:48 < aestetix> you mean worth spending money on? 17:51 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:58 <@CRasH180> I'm out. ttyl 17:58 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: are you john elridge? 18:02 < RangerZ1> no 18:02 < RangerZ1> john elridge has no handle 18:02 < RangerZ1> thats what he goes by all the time 18:03 < aestetix> oh 18:19 < aestetix> wow someone just made an actual threat to me over irc silliness :/ 18:20 < RangerZ1> ? 18:20 < aestetix> they said they are going to print out lines from irc logs, and show up to my next public talk with a megaphone 18:20 < RangerZ1> my question... what makes you call it an 'actual' threat? 18:20 < _NSAKEY> Hahahahahahahaha. 18:21 < RangerZ1> good 18:21 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Anyone who has you at a talk should already know how you are. 18:21 < RangerZ1> perhaps you'll learn a lesson 18:21 < RangerZ1> lol 18:21 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: nah, they will print out the lines where he's being ... well aestetix 18:21 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The obvious solution is to have a talk in some far-flung place and then make fun of the person on-stage for breaking their word. 18:21 < RangerZ1> that will make him lose credibility in the eyes of most people 18:22 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: I think some of the humor embedded in the ancient PN slides from last night are sufficient to show that aestetix never stops being aestetix. 18:24 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: for breaking their word? 18:25 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: If they say they're going to do this at your next talk, no matter where it is... Do a talk in Asia, then make fun of them for not fulfilling their promise. 18:25 < aestetix> oh haha 18:25 < RangerZ1> or do it at a closed location, such as a local TEDx talk 18:25 < aestetix> well given that I'm moving to europe soon 18:25 < aestetix> they will have to buy a plane ticket :p 18:25 < _NSAKEY> There you go. 18:27 < aestetix> RangerZ1: in all seriousness, I regret nothing I have done or said. It's all learning experience. That said, certain things should not cross context barriers. 18:27 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You could also buy a megaphone and turn it into a shouting match. 18:27 < aestetix> It's the same reason I don't believe in dropping dox. 18:27 < RangerZ1> 'dropping dox' ? 18:28 < _NSAKEY> Or just include a slide in every presentation you do from now on of this person threatening you. 18:28 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: or more likely the conference security would escort them out :p 18:28 < _NSAKEY> And if they start their megaphone antics, you just skip to that slide. 18:28 < aestetix> RangerZ1: like publicly announcing someone's legal name and their handle 18:28 < aestetix> Or their home address, etc 18:28 < RangerZ1> yeah ok, I wondered what you meant 18:28 < RangerZ1> I know of 'doxing', etc 18:29 < _NSAKEY> At least give your audience some context on why there's some guy with a megaphone is crashing your talk. 18:29 < aestetix> well it's like those idiots on twitter 18:29 < RangerZ1> just 'dropping dox' seemed an odd wording 18:29 < _NSAKEY> Honestly though, they probably won't do anything. 18:29 < aestetix> "omg they are threatning me I had to call the cops" 18:29 < aestetix> and the cops probably didn't give a shit, assuming they actually called them 18:29 < RangerZ1> aestetix: actually it CAN be an issue 18:29 < RangerZ1> swatting 18:29 < aestetix> until/unless they produced some piece of information like a home address 18:29 < aestetix> because at that moment it becomes personal and a credible threat, IMHO 18:30 < RangerZ1> that CAN get someone killed, etc... the 5mo old baby who had its face burned off when a flashbang went into its crib, etc 18:30 < aestetix> right 18:30 < RangerZ1> which is why I informed my profs to warn their local police about it, b/c they/we stream live 18:30 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Is the person male or female? 18:30 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: why? 18:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Because you can send them free tampons for PMSing at you. 18:31 < aestetix> hahaha 18:31 < _NSAKEY> Which is only funny if it's a dude. 18:31 < aestetix> or glitter 18:32 < aestetix> Although now that I think about it 18:33 < aestetix> It would be hilariuos to show up to a group of angry radical feminists, and use megaphones to ask them questions about butt play 18:33 < RangerZ1> no 18:33 < RangerZ1> you'll be arrested for sexual harrasment 18:34 < RangerZ1> harassment* , i mean... nvm... you should do that... 18:42 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:02 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NewiSNS-vLk&feature=youtu.be 19:02 < PigBot> Title: メイド100人 魅せパンリレー|100 Sizzling Japanese maids in Action|フレーバーストーン - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:02 < aestetix> enjoy 19:02 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-253-143.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 19:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 19:15 -!- Feltenix_ [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:16 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 19:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 19:47 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@2601:1:8900:d03:c943:3c2d:5a89:72a5] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:16 <@Shadow404> heh, i just resumed screen and show the words butt play first, and i without even looking at the name who said it, was like sigh, aestetix 20:23 < _NSAKEY> Shadow404: He's a bit too predictable, isn't he? 20:24 <@Shadow404> at time yes 20:28 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 20:33 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 20:42 <@SuMo_D> Everyone staying warm? 20:44 < dfused> yu 20:44 < dfused> p 20:45 <@Evilpig> no 20:46 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: you need to come warm me up. also... where the fuck have you been? 20:46 <@SuMo_D> I've been ruling the world... kicking ass taking names ya know... 20:46 <@SuMo_D> the usual 20:46 <@Evilpig> lies! otherwise i'd be calling you supreme leader sumo_d 20:47 <@Evilpig> most exalted leader SuMo_D 20:48 < aestetix> SuMo_D: do you have a spirit animal? 20:48 <@SuMo_D> we got a 50,000 grant to start our maker space in Spartanburg 20:48 <@SuMo_D> so yes.... ruing the world 20:48 <@Evilpig> well done! congrats 20:48 < aestetix> wow 20:48 < aestetix> you should donate all that money to nashville2600 20:49 <@SuMo_D> its a matching grant so they should donate us all the money! 20:49 <@SuMo_D> aestetix not sure about the spirit animal... hmmm maybe a hedgehog 20:49 <@Evilpig> i'd picture you as more a sasquatch kinda gal 20:50 <@Evilpig> a spirit animal that is elusive even to you 20:50 < aestetix> my spirit animal is Evilpig 20:50 * Evilpig looks for a gun 20:50 <@SuMo_D> but yeah city of Spartanburg is behind us and the State of SC seems to believe in us so... fuck yeah! lets do this! 20:50 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Sweet! Gratz! 20:51 <@SuMo_D> we've been building a sculpture for a contest at Michelin too, lots of motors and lights and crazy shit... hopefully we'll win the moooooney its due Friday 20:51 <@SuMo_D> hmmmm sasquatch 20:51 <@SuMo_D> so what's new with you guys? 20:52 <@Evilpig> nada. lots o' drama as usual 20:52 <@SuMo_D> lol 20:52 <@Evilpig> elonka moved to nashville, she's taking over nashville2600 20:52 <@Bahhumbug> SuMo_D: Congrats! 20:52 <@Evilpig> they lost nearly 10k last year on phreaknic 20:52 <@SuMo_D> wow 20:52 < _NSAKEY> s/taking/taken/ 20:52 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that 20:52 < _NSAKEY> Let's call it what it is, EvilPig. 20:52 < aestetix> wait I thought there was a private sponsor or something 20:52 <@Evilpig> there is still the matter of the president to be ousted 20:53 < _NSAKEY> Elonka = Benevolent Dictator For Life, at this point. 20:53 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: i'm a manager now 20:53 <@Evilpig> yeah, that happened 20:53 <@SuMo_D> well probably better a dictator than to die 20:53 <@SuMo_D> ? 20:53 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: From the way things look on the ground, it doesn't actually matter who is king, because she's the kingmaker. 20:53 <@SuMo_D> so have you driven Johnnyx and crazypants to the hills? 20:53 <@oddball> aestetix: Dru keeps talking about this private sponsor, but won't come up with the details. 20:53 < aestetix> SuMo_D: amber and RangerZ started dating 20:53 <@SuMo_D> ha 20:54 <@SuMo_D> riiiight 20:54 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: no. crazypants is currently sidling up to elonka hoping to dispell the rumors of crazy 20:54 <@oddball> Yep. All that friction? Apparently just sexual tension. 20:55 <@Evilpig> oh and notlarry is no longer around 20:55 < aestetix> what 20:55 < aestetix> where is he? 20:55 <@Evilpig> crazypants accused him of rape and for fear of reprisal from his job he is no longer part of the community 20:55 <@SuMo_D> wow so oddball you're really not kidding? 20:55 < aestetix> ...... 20:55 < aestetix> fucking bitch! 20:55 <@SuMo_D> wow 20:55 <@Dagmar> wait... what? 20:55 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Did anyone ever say when he claimed to threaten to rape her and what he said? 20:55 <@oddball> SuMo_D: no... not seriously. 20:55 <@Evilpig> aestetix: since vandy is already dealing with actual rape charges. this would be a case where they would act first then maybe look into it after 20:56 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: It's in the minutes and in previous stuff on root@se2600. NotLarry is out. 20:56 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: it doens't matter. the environment there right now is act first, regardless 20:56 <@oddball> Evilpig: Fuck. I knew he had decided to step down as VP. Didn't know that he said "fuck it" and left entirely. 20:56 <@Evilpig> he doesn't want to get fired. he had no choice 20:56 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I know it doesn't matter in that case, but I'm curious. 20:56 <@SuMo_D> man that all sucks... 20:57 < _NSAKEY> If it's the over the shipping crate thing... You said that, not him, and there was nothing about "sex slaves" mentioned in-channel when that came up. 20:57 < _NSAKEY> (Thanks for the logs) 20:57 <@Dagmar> I don't see anything about this accusation on the list 20:57 <@SuMo_D> can't you guys show Elonka the logs of when crazypants was in here? 20:57 <@SuMo_D> and be like... loooooook.... crazy? 20:58 < _NSAKEY> SuMo_D: At this point, showing past dirt won't hold any sway. 20:58 < _NSAKEY> Amber has to commit new sins in order for Elonka to care, I think. 20:58 <@SuMo_D> right 20:58 <@Dagmar> Where did she make a specific accusation? 20:58 <@SuMo_D> man... 20:58 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I could have sworn it was on the list, but could be mistaken. I'll try looking too. 20:59 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I don't think she ever made one. 20:59 < _NSAKEY> Other than her subtweeting back in December after the elections. 20:59 < _NSAKEY> The board meeting minutes from today mention NotLarry stepping down as VP. 20:59 <@Dagmar> Yeah but that's all they mention 20:59 <@Evilpig> the accusation was made at the last meeting 21:00 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:00 <@Evilpig> his resignation was handed in immediately after 21:00 <@Dagmar> I missed that 21:00 < _NSAKEY> There was too much going on at the last meeting. The accusation was something I missed entirely. 21:00 <@Dagmar> I'll be sure and leave the kig gloves at home for the next meeting 21:00 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't have stood for that bullshit had I known it was occurring 21:00 <@SuMo_D> so how da fuk did you guys lose 10k on PN? 21:01 <@Dagmar> We didn't. 21:01 < _NSAKEY> SuMo_D: As the story goes, Corydon told jonnyx to get 100 room nights, not 100 rooms. 21:01 < _NSAKEY> The proposal and presumably the contract (Which hasn't been made available yet) were for 100 rooms. 21:01 < _NSAKEY> The standard issue 90% poison pill in hotel convention contracts kicked in. 21:02 < _NSAKEY> The Maxwell House is expensive, on top of that. 21:02 <@Evilpig> standard issue... not standard 21:02 <@SuMo_D> oy 21:02 <@SuMo_D> hey where is Corydon? 21:02 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I did a little bit of reading and apparently not filling a certain % of rooms leads to this sort of thing in a lot of hotel contracts. 21:03 < _NSAKEY> It's probably not standard to you because of your special hook-ups with places like the day's inn. 21:03 <@Evilpig> I thought i had his email resigning but I can't find it 21:03 <@Evilpig> You can negotiate those out 21:03 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: In the same way that the amount owed was originally going to be 15k, but got negotiated down? 21:04 < _NSAKEY> I forget who said that recently, but that's supposedly something that happened. 21:04 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: no, it was more about everyone else being REALLY CAREFUL about 1000(s) of dollars and contracts they sign 21:04 <@Evilpig> no, in the way that when you negotiate a deal you make sure you know all the terms up front. we will take x rooms as a room block, if that room block is closed two weeks ... a month before the event and people are turned away I won't pay a penalty 21:04 <@RangerZ> EVERY con knows that you eat rooms you don't sell 21:05 <@Dagmar> I think I'm quite done dealing with that psycho's bullshit now 21:05 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Is there even a public accounting of who actually saw the contract? 21:05 <@Dagmar> Don't expect me to be civil to her at the next meeting 21:05 <@RangerZ> dru and eldridge 21:05 <@RangerZ> dru had eldridge read it over first before signing 21:05 <@RangerZ> and Amber I'm guessing 21:05 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I knew about those two. 21:05 <@Evilpig> eldridge read it after teh fact supposedly 21:05 <@RangerZ> 'after the fact' doesn't mean shit 21:05 <@Evilpig> crazypants and dru were directly involved with the contract 21:06 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: She told me at the meeting that she never saw the contract... or the proposal that was addressed to her. 21:06 <@Dagmar> Simple question: Whose signatures are on it? 21:06 <@Evilpig> don't know 21:06 <@Evilpig> nobody knows 21:06 <@RangerZ> we'd have to SEE it 21:06 <@Evilpig> that's the problem 21:06 <@RangerZ> and dru hasn't turned it in yet 21:06 <@RangerZ> nor his homework... 21:06 <@RangerZ> personally I'm in favor of a 10% penalty for each day you're late with turning in homework 21:07 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: But what's the penalty? Money? Lashes? 21:07 <@SuMo_D> so did you guys have enough money to cover that shit? 21:07 <@Dagmar> I'm in favor ofr dropping crazy people into a vat of quicksetting cement. 21:07 <@RangerZ> so he gets today and tomorrow for free,... but if he's later... he has to personally pay back 10% each day 21:07 <@Dagmar> ...but that doesn't make it right. 21:07 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: This is why Codex Labs wound up kicking in $6k 21:07 <@Evilpig> he won't pay shit 21:08 <@RangerZ> SuMo_D: you should sign up for the mailing list 21:08 <@Evilpig> he's gonna turn up in a week and claim he had no power or internet for however long he goes MIA for 21:08 <@RangerZ> it'll be amusing soon 21:08 < _NSAKEY> SuMo_D: Andrew from NLUG stepped up and made up the difference apparently... but the exact amounts and so forth aren't public. 21:08 <@SuMo_D> RangerZ its more fun hearing it from you guys interactively.... and yeah I wouldn't read it 21:10 < aestetix> ok so 21:10 < aestetix> does anyone here know much about macs? 21:10 <@oddball> Evilpig: You don't think he's going to claim that his spam filter ate it? 21:10 <@Evilpig> a little 21:10 < aestetix> this battery/power issue is starting to piss me off 21:10 <@Evilpig> no, I just told you what he's gonna claim 21:10 <@oddball> aestetix: a decent amount. 21:10 < aestetix> ok 21:10 <@oddball> How old is the battery? 21:11 < aestetix> I have a macbook late 2008 21:11 <@Evilpig> I can guarantee that will be it. he's done it in the past. 21:11 < aestetix> and using a 3rd party battery I bought a couple months ago 21:11 < _NSAKEY> On that note, is anyone else finding Elonka's recent replies in their spam folder? 21:11 <@oddball> so... a 5-6 year battery? Could be that the battery is dead. 21:11 < aestetix> the battery was fun, but two days ago the system magically stopped working with it 21:11 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: yep 21:11 < aestetix> fine* 21:11 <@Dagmar> Nonw of Elonka's mails have wound up in my spam folder 21:12 < aestetix> as in, it shows a 99% charge, but if I knock off the power cable, the computer dies 21:12 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: gmail says that the only reason that MY emails from her aren't going to spam is b/c of my filters 21:12 < aestetix> oddball: the battery isn't old 21:12 <@RangerZ> but remember... dru can't run his own email 21:13 < aestetix> is there a way I can actually test the battery though? I'm running istat and the battery is healthy 21:13 < aestetix> I tried booting into diagnostic mode but it doesn't seem to exist 21:13 <@Dagmar> Oh I see 21:13 <@Dagmar> AOL failed at SPF 21:13 < aestetix> oddball: Evilpig any ideas? 21:13 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Have you thought of dusting off a multimeter? 21:14 < aestetix> heh 21:14 < aestetix> Or applying qtip+alcohol to the connector on the battery? 21:14 <@Evilpig> huh? I was getting dinner out of the oven. battery shit... check and see what applications are draining that fucker the most. have you tried any type of conditioning regimine on it? 21:14 <@RangerZ> aestetix: just ask someone with a similar mac to test your battery 21:14 <@oddball> Ah, never had an issue in that department that wasn't a dead battery. 21:14 < aestetix> RangerZ: nobody around here has a similar mac 21:14 < aestetix> remember Apple forces "upgrades" every year 21:15 <@Evilpig> my phone has to be calibrated for the bigger battery otheriwse it reads wrong 21:15 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Try holding an open flame to the battery. That will fix it. 21:15 < dfused> +1 21:15 <@RangerZ> aestetix: just buy a new battery? 21:15 <@RangerZ> how much are they for macs? 21:15 <@Dagmar> That battery is fried 21:15 <@Evilpig> shitloads cause apple tax 21:16 <@RangerZ> http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Macbook-Aluminum-Unibody-Version/dp/B0049MV5OK 21:16 <@RangerZ> 63$ isn't too bad 21:16 <@RangerZ> if thats the 'exact right' one 21:16 <@RangerZ> but still 21:16 <@SuMo_D> if its an '08 I think its one of the big squarish ones 21:17 <@SuMo_D> but yeah sounds like its fried... 21:17 < aestetix> that's nothing. direct from apple is $125 21:17 < aestetix> although they are notorious for unsupporting things 21:17 <@SuMo_D> they're pretty good about batteries 21:17 <@SuMo_D> at least in my experience 21:18 < aestetix> SuMo_D: they will "support" it by making me buy a new battery 21:18 <@SuMo_D> not always 21:18 < aestetix> or one of those fucking neckbeard "genius" mouthbreathers will say "why don't you just upgrade to a new system" 21:18 <@RangerZ> aestetix: better idea 21:18 < aestetix> why? 21:18 <@RangerZ> sell me that one for 200$ 21:18 <@RangerZ> and upgrade 21:18 < aestetix> this system works fine 21:19 < dfused> apparently not 21:19 <@SuMo_D> they didn't used to... they used to actually be helpful, but yeah Apple has gone way downhill 21:19 <@RangerZ> no it doesn't , don't lie to yourself, you need to sell it to me cheap 21:19 <@RangerZ> lol 21:20 < aestetix> SuMo_D: they basically now sell you a magic stick, make it taboo to even consider opening it up, and then if anything goes wrong, you have to take it to their store to have it looked at by a "professional" 21:20 < aestetix> and then a year later they shame you into buying a new system that does the exact same thing with a few added features to justify the purchase 21:21 <@RangerZ> aestetix: and you say that like there is something wrong with their business practice 21:21 <@RangerZ> lol 21:21 < aestetix> RangerZ: that's why I'm never buying an apple product again 21:23 < aestetix> apple is the computer version of the companies that put toxins in the air to make you sick and then charge you a killing for prescription drugs to heal you 21:25 <@SuMo_D> So are you guys going to have Phreaknic this year? 21:26 <@RangerZ> SuMo_D: PN isn't yet planned 21:26 <@RangerZ> lol 21:26 <@RangerZ> but we'll see 21:26 <@RangerZ> likely at this point, the way things are going 21:27 <@Dagmar> First on the agenda is probably having to slam the door on Dru's idea for a _springtime_ con 21:27 <@oddball> In theory, yes. 21:28 < aestetix> Dagmar: maybe you can put on a production of The Producers in lieu of a springtime con 21:28 <@Dagmar> Let me put this another way... 21:28 <@SuMo_D> well you guys are all coming to www.imagineupstate.org for your spring excursion right? 21:28 <@Dagmar> Our #1 problem is still showing up to meetings 21:28 <@SuMo_D> oh I got another grant too to make www.greenvilleartbikes.com happen 21:28 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: geeknic.info 21:28 <@Dagmar> Our #2 problem is still as delusional as ever 21:29 <@SuMo_D> that's going to be family friendly though so... not sure if you guys would errr fit in 21:29 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: you're welcome to come nature with us 21:29 <@oddball> I need to figure out if I'm going to Geeknic or Midsouthcon. 21:29 <@SuMo_D> but I am bringing in visiting artists from Chatanooga 21:29 <@Dagmar> Having a con that is _outside the scope of the charter_ with org resources would likely land someone under a law enforcement microscope. 21:29 <@SuMo_D> however you spell that weird TN place 21:30 <@SuMo_D> it would be sad if that were the thing to land you under the law enforcement microscope 21:32 <@RangerZ> so when the DHS shuts down next friday 21:32 <@RangerZ> does that mean TSA shuts down? 21:33 <@RangerZ> and does that mean no international flights? 21:33 <@RangerZ> does that mean aestetix is stuck not working in berlin? 21:33 <@RangerZ> hehe 21:33 <@oddball> Wait... DHS is shutting down? 21:33 <@Shadow404> more like amsterdam 21:33 <@oddball> Can I live the impossible dream? 21:34 <@RangerZ> yeah, b/c republcians don't want the immigration executive action that obama signed to go into effect 21:34 < aestetix> ..... what 21:34 <@Evilpig> oddball: just another slow news day 21:34 < aestetix> wait 21:34 < aestetix> DHS is shutting down? 21:34 < aestetix> omg yay 21:34 <@RangerZ> yeah, funding runs out next thurs 21:34 <@RangerZ> but there is NO WAY it'll 'fully' shut down 21:34 <@RangerZ> its like CIA its a "critical" service 21:34 <@RangerZ> meaning they can't strike and have no bargaining power 21:35 <@oddball> Oh, speaking of the TSA, did you see that they're wanting to make it so that, as of next year, you have to have a super-special version of your driver's license or your passport to fly anywhere? 21:36 < aestetix> wait what? 21:37 <@RangerZ> basically the federal gov't getting tired of states (mostly the south) having requirements for driver ID, which are kinda jokes 21:37 <@RangerZ> you don't even have to prove residency in some, etc 21:37 < aestetix> RangerZ: wait, there's tension between the federal government and the south? 21:37 <@oddball> http://www.ktvn.com/story/27977913/the-real-i-d-option 21:37 < PigBot> Title: TSA to Require Secured Identification to Board Flights in 2016 - KTVN Channel 2 - Reno Tahoe News Weather, Video - (at www.ktvn.com) 21:39 < aestetix> uh 21:39 <@oddball> RangerZ: Ironically, then when they try to fix that issue, folks start screaming about illegal immigrant's rights. At least that's what happened here. 21:39 <@RangerZ> apparently this was passsed in 2005 21:39 < aestetix> I can see them requiring ID for international flights 21:39 <@RangerZ> to be staged in 21:39 < aestetix> but domestic? 21:39 < aestetix> I wonder how based in reality that article actually is 21:39 <@RangerZ> domestic flights fall under 'inter state trade' since the state doesn't control the air above 1mile 21:39 < aestetix> I know AMVA is trying to push through some regs 21:40 <@oddball> Oh, there's been a push for "real ID" for years. 21:40 < aestetix> RangerZ: yes, but there's also the concept of freedom of travel within the country without showing papers 21:40 <@RangerZ> you can 21:40 <@oddball> aestetix: Oh, that's an easy one "no one is forcing you to fly. You can always drive." 21:40 <@RangerZ> just not on 'international airspace' 21:41 <@oddball> That's been the excuse for a lot of the bullshit the TSA pulls. 21:41 <@RangerZ> or 'non-state controlled airspace' 21:41 < aestetix> hmm international airspace 21:41 <@oddball> Of course, the TSA has also started showing up running checkpoints at subways, AMTRAK, and sporting events... 21:41 < aestetix> does that mean if I put a server in that airspace serving up pirated movies, they can't shut it down? 21:42 <@RangerZ> aestetix: federal gov't can 21:42 <@RangerZ> BUT satellites ... 21:42 < aestetix> why can they? it's international 21:43 <@RangerZ> no, its 'non-state controlled' 21:43 < aestetix> so it's like DC? 21:43 <@RangerZ> therefore it falls to 'federal control' 21:43 <@RangerZ> there is an internation treaty on this 21:44 <@RangerZ> I forget which one 21:44 <@RangerZ> which makes it -at the same level- as our constition 21:44 < aestetix> the federal government is like a fat girl who keeps showing up asking you for food 21:44 <@oddball> aestetix: You would like my libertatian gun nut friends. 21:45 <@RangerZ> nah, its the fat guy who states want to keep giving food, b/c they don't -really- want the control , b/c then they would be repsonsible AND couldn't rail against the guy ;) 21:45 <@RangerZ> oddball: he still keeps saying "I'm not a libertarian" but he is 21:45 < aestetix> oddball: I don't like to be told what to do unless there's a damned good reason behind it. 21:46 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you should not hold your breath until you pass out 21:46 < aestetix> haha 21:46 <@RangerZ> (no perminent damage) 21:46 <@RangerZ> permanent* 21:47 <@oddball> aestetix: That's pretty much their stance. 21:47 <@RangerZ> also they get hard ons about Freidman 21:47 <@RangerZ> and Ayn Rand 21:48 <@oddball> well, that's true... but they mostly due that behind closed doors... in their bedrooms. 21:48 < aestetix> I think Ayn Rand goes way too far. 21:48 < aestetix> I actually mostly agree with Friedman. 21:49 <@RangerZ> but here is where his ideas fall apart 21:49 <@RangerZ> who decides what property is ownded by who 21:49 <@RangerZ> basically 'only the rich' who can afford the biggest army , get to 21:49 < aestetix> ownded? 21:50 < aestetix> I said mostly. 21:50 <@RangerZ> so therefore it deteriorates to feudalism 21:50 < aestetix> I also think the community is very important. 21:50 <@RangerZ> the tv show? 21:50 < aestetix> Keep in mind I also think CC and healthcare should be "free" 21:50 <@RangerZ> lol 21:50 < aestetix> as in covered by our taxes 21:51 <@RangerZ> Crowd Control? 21:51 < aestetix> Community College :p 21:51 <@RangerZ> i was being a smartass... but yeah... I wasn't sure what you meant, lol 21:55 < aestetix> ok what if I say BP should be free 21:55 <@RangerZ> I would say that British Petroleum would poison our air/seas 21:55 <@RangerZ> and that Peanut Butter is yummy, if you typo'd 21:56 <@RangerZ> also British Pound 21:57 < aestetix> unrelated: http://smurfsfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Reproduction 21:57 < PigBot> Title: Reproduction - Smurfs Fanon Wiki (at smurfsfanon.wikia.com) 21:58 <@RangerZ> as of April [Alaska, Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma and Washington state do not currently meet the law's standards, according to DHS.] 21:58 <@RangerZ> so everyone else if ine 21:58 <@RangerZ> is fine** 21:58 < aestetix> s/fine/oppressive/ 21:58 < dfused> PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME 21:58 <@RangerZ> so Evilpig and rattle 21:58 <@oddball> RangerZ: An aweful lot of those aren't in "the south." 21:59 <@oddball> :p 21:59 <@RangerZ> shh 22:00 <@RangerZ> lol 22:01 <@oddball> In fact, I see those bastions of conservatism NY, NJ, amd Mass in that list... :p 22:02 <@RangerZ> so does anyone else love the fact that the _republicans_ are keeping Eric Holder as AG ? 22:02 <@oddball> huh? 22:02 <@RangerZ> they refused to vote on his replacement 22:02 <@oddball> ah 22:03 <@oddball> I'm trying to remember who the proposed replacement is. I remember there was talk of one that was terrible, but that was a while ago. 22:03 <@RangerZ> nah, everyone thinks she's qualified, even groups ranging from even the NAACP, the Heritage foundation and Mike Bloomberg 22:05 <@oddball> huh. Like I said... I hadn't really heard anything about the actual proposed replacement. 22:05 < aestetix> oh yeah 22:05 < aestetix> when did he announce Eric Holder was resigning 22:05 <@oddball> It's been over a year now, I think. 22:06 < aestetix> wow 22:07 <@Dagmar> He's a bought man 22:08 <@Dagmar> His replacement might throw some of the friends of GOP into jail 22:08 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:10 <@oddball> Wait... you're saying that you believe that the GOP has Holder in their pocket? 22:11 <@Dagmar> Can you think of any other reason why there aren't banksters in jail? 22:11 <@oddball> Because they have *all* politicians in their pockets. 22:11 <@Dagmar> I don't think he's "in their pocket". I think they have dirt on him 22:24 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Probably the same reason that Bush et al aren't going to The Hague. 22:24 < _NSAKEY> If they start a pattern of the new administration going after the old one, it opens them up to the same sort of behavior. 22:26 <@Dagmar> Personally, I don't see a problem witht our politicians turning on each other. 22:31 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@174.46.102.194] has joined #se2600 22:31 < Warcop> sup 22:33 <@oddball> Well, that and that the politicians look at what the previous administration did and think "oo! that's neat! I want to be able to do that too!" 22:52 -!- Peaches84 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:06 <@Evilpig> by any crazy chance, have any of you ever dealt with CORS? 23:06 < dfused> *crickets* 23:07 <@Evilpig> kinda what I thought but it was worth a shot 23:08 <@Evilpig> trying to get the server to be happy with PUT requests but it just isn't working right and not sure what's missing 23:11 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: i have actually, but it was hackery of js+ specifically allowing the page to do unsafe things, lol 23:12 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:12 <@Evilpig> http://client.cors-api.appspot.com/client#?client_method=PUT&client_credentials=false&server_url=https%3A%2F%2Frepository.opendcim.org%2Fapi%2Fmanufacturer&server_enable=true&server_status=200&server_credentials=false&server_tabs=remote&server_methods=put%2Cget&server_headers=*&server_expose_headers=*&server_max_age=120&server_response_headers=test%3A%20value 23:12 < PigBot> Title: test-cors.org (at client.cors-api.appspot.com) 23:12 <@Evilpig> I found this nifty tester 23:12 < RangerZ1> aka... I never got it quite working right... but i figured a hack around it anyways, lol 23:12 <@Evilpig> get works, head works, post is blocked 23:12 <@Evilpig> put just fails 23:13 < RangerZ1> nice 23:13 < dfused> teehee ....head 23:13 < RangerZ1> teehee dfused head... wait... 23:13 < dfused> lol 23:14 * RangerZ1 snuggles up with dfused as PN bunk buddies 23:14 < dfused> what happens @ PN, stays @ PN 0.0 23:14 * RangerZ1 is also confident enough in myself to joke about that... and had to be after working in an all male shop as a stagehand were they did nothing but tease about each other being gay... lol 23:17 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:17 < RangerZ1> you learn alot about how to defend yourself from insults in a scenario like that... if you aren't actually gay and commit suicide... :/ 23:17 < dfused> lol..wow.. 23:17 < dfused> harsh 23:17 < RangerZ1> which was my fear actually... that someone would be bullied without them realizing and do something bad 23:18 < RangerZ1> the company has come under new mang. which is good 23:18 < dfused> yeah...I'm friends with many and have to draw a line before I say something stupid. 23:19 < RangerZ1> it was my _boss_ too... so yeah... 23:19 < RangerZ1> I was legit the only person who didn't smoke 23:19 < RangerZ1> and I'm not talking tobacco 23:19 < dfused> rgr 23:19 < RangerZ1> and do lines... 23:19 < dfused> yikes 23:19 < dfused> thats a pricey habit 23:20 < RangerZ1> when the sideline act that no one knew at the black sabbath concert your boss did the lighting for... was van halen ... yeah... 23:20 < dfused> hah 23:21 < RangerZ1> he had the contract signed by black sabbath's mang. and a note about him not knowing about the warm up act 23:21 < RangerZ1> framed on the wall in the office 23:21 < RangerZ1> it was kinda amusing 23:22 < RangerZ1> it was like the 78 tour in Pitt 23:22 < RangerZ1> It was amusing hearing all these stories from before I was born 23:22 < RangerZ1> and I didn't just say that to make the people born in the 70s feel old... nope... not at all... ;) 23:23 < dfused> yeah... I'm getting old quick. I think in the past year my metabolism cut in half 23:23 < dfused> pisses me off 23:25 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Don't worry. It'll all be over soon. 23:25 < dfused> working from home does not help the weight 23:31 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@174.46.102.194] has quit [] 23:42 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:52 -!- Peaches84 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Wed Feb 18 00:00:00 2015