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01:11 < aestetix> klixa: do newborn babies fart as well as shit, or do they just shit?
01:11 < aestetix> curious whether it requires bowel control to fart
01:14 <@klixa> aestetix: newborns fart
01:19 < aestetix> btw
01:19 < aestetix> is it true that when you're expecting a baby, parents have parties where you have to wear a blindfold and eat baby food?
01:22 <@klixa> i have no freinds... i had no baby shower... i dunno what other people do
01:23 < aestetix> baby food seems fucking disgusting to me
01:24 <@klixa> the fruit and veggie ones are good
01:24 <@klixa> i never got the meat, or pasta, or any other kinds for my baby
01:24 <@klixa> my view is if the child cant chew meat they arent ready for meat...cause pureed meat sounds disgusting
01:25 < aestetix> I'd rather have a night with Corydon than eat baby food
01:25 <@klixa> aestetix: its like applesauce
01:25 <@klixa> eccept different flavors of applesauce and smoother
01:25 < aestetix> baby food or Corydon? :p
01:25 <@klixa> i didnt get any of the flavors that would seem digsuting tho
01:25 <@klixa> like green beans...never got any of that
01:26 <@klixa> i mostly got fruit for my baby
01:27 <@klixa> i still use them for snacks, like she had this one tonight and its delicious http://www.plumorganics.com/products/hello-morning-cherries-oats
01:27 < PigBot`> Title: Hello Morning Baby Breakfast | Cherries & Oats (at www.plumorganics.com)
01:27 <@klixa> they a taste like smoothies basically
01:27 <@klixa> all*
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02:51 <@Dagmar> Oh thank goodness
02:51 <@Dagmar> THey do sell replacement storm door latches
03:02 < RangerZ2> umm yeah
03:02 < RangerZ2> wtf did you do?
03:02 < RangerZ2> I've told you... stop hitting salesmen outside your door WITH the door
03:11 <@Dagmar> The inside handle snapped off
03:11 <@Dagmar> It's kind of interesting to get out now
03:11 <@Dagmar> Soo... I should probably fix that
03:11 <@Dagmar> It's only gonna cost like $12
03:16 <@Dagmar> Flowers... SENT!
03:18 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: you know its mean to send flowers to Evilpig with a note saying they are from a girl from work...
03:19 < RangerZ2> http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson/2015/02/10/nashville-swingers-club-prompts-proposed-state-law/23175009/ He also said that if the swingers club is blocked, its owners would consider leasing the 22,000-square-foot building to someone "the school finds just as objectionable," listing an abortion clinic, hotel or homeless shelter as ideas.
03:19 < PigBot`> Title: Nashville swingers club prompts proposed state law (at www.tennessean.com)
03:19 < RangerZ2> HAHAHA
03:19 <@Dagmar> heheheh
03:19 <@Bahhumbug> hahahahahahaha
03:19 <@Bahhumbug> +1
03:19 <@Dagmar> considering the _other_ places in Nashville you would't know where such a place unless you were already in the know, I don't think they should be kicking up a fuss
03:20 <@Dagmar> Now _all_ the kids will know what it is
03:21 <@Dagmar> They're about to get themselves into some shit with that proposal
03:21 <@Dagmar> There's really *not* a lot of space in Nashville that isn't within 1,000 feet of "schools, churches, parks, and residences"
03:22 <@Dagmar> ...adding residences was a massive mistake
03:23 <@Dagmar> "Roberts said Goodpasture school opponents should be more concerned about police calls to a nearby apartment complex and the 56 registered sex offenders living in a two-mile radius." <-- precisely
03:24 <@Dagmar> This law would basically also render most hacker spaces impossible
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03:31 < RangerZ2> yeah, I wondered about that
03:31 < _NSAKEY> One has to wonder if they'll post his name/address on the front page of their website, as they did with that councilwoman.
03:32 < RangerZ2> http://www.newgamernation.com/square-enix-announces-some-college-lectures-that-wont-put-you-to-sleep_021015_0931/
03:32 < RangerZ2> interesting
03:33 < RangerZ2> also of note... there were 2 ITT Techs nation wide that had a full certification to becomes a Nintendo game programmer
03:33 < RangerZ2> one was where you would expect... silly valley
03:33 < RangerZ2> the other.... was youngstown...
03:33 < RangerZ2> not... sure how THAT happened...
03:34 < RangerZ2> but that was a thing... lol
03:42 <@Dagmar> It's ITT.
03:42 <@Dagmar> They have to have at least one school actually teaching people useful things or they'd be sued for fraud
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07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:07 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEBVA-i90jM Persona 5, the biggest Console RPG to be released either this year or next (no official release date yet) but for PS3 and PS4
08:07 < PigBot`> Title: Persona 5 - Gameplay Trailer w/ English Translation - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
08:07 < RangerZ2> when the release a video game trailer at a -rock concert- in japan...
08:17 <@Evilpig> http://www.androidauthority.com/google-drive-free-storage-security-586501/
08:17 < PigBot`> Title: No brainer: Google’s giving you 2GB of free storage to secure your account (at www.androidauthority.com)
08:19 <@Evilpig> well that was easy enough I already had all that shit and just had to click done
08:26 < RangerZ> yeah, same
08:28 <@Evilpig> I also had two factor auth set which jason tells me wasn't required
08:29 <@Dolemite> "RSVP by Feb 6"
08:29  * Dolemite looks at all of the RSVPs received this morning for tomorrow's AFCOM meetnig
08:29  * Dolemite looks at the date
08:29  * Dolemite cries for humanity
08:43 <@Evilpig> well hell.  my great aunt died two days ago and i just found out via facebook
08:43 <@Evilpig> she was 95 last month
08:44 <@Evilpig> they aren't having a service for her until March 14.  I wonder if my granny got that wrong and it's supposed to be Feb 14
08:53 <@Evilpig> granny was right.  mom cleared shit up.  they're cremating her and then waiting until march 14th to try and make sure the weather is better.  the church where she went is out in the sticks and damn near impossible to get to with anything on the roads
08:54 <@Dolemite> I would hope so.  A month is a very long time to leave a body in cold storage before the funeral.
08:54 <@Dolemite> Ah
08:54 <@Evilpig> it will be mostly family as most of aunt rosie's friends have already passed
08:54 <@Evilpig> so now I need to figure out if I can make it to west ky the week before geeknic as well
08:55 < Synx|hm> morning peeps
08:55 <@Evilpig> odds are really good that I might lose both my grandparents this year too. :-/
08:56 < Synx|hm> :(
08:56 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: how many do you have left?
08:57 <@Dolemite> Sorry to say it, but welcome to the club.  My last one died right before I had my first date with Pamela.
08:57 <@Evilpig> both on mom's side and they're both in really bad health
08:57 < Synx|hm> sucks
08:57 <@Dolemite> Yeah, not having any great grandparents for the kids is a bit sad.
08:57 <@Evilpig> natural grandpa on dad's side has been gone for several years now
08:58 <@Dolemite> Both of my Dad's parents were gone by the time I graduated high school.  Mom's Dad is the one that held out into his 90s.
08:58 <@Evilpig> grandpa bruce on that side was showing signs of mental loss when I was out there last fall
08:58 <@Dolemite> Now my parents are in the high 70s.  I dread the day when they're gone - not just for me, but for my kids.
08:59 < Synx|hm> my moms mom passed last year, was devistating for my grandfather, her last week they found out she had the same cancer that took my mom, i know it sucks but if they go together at least they aren't so lonely
08:59 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: if not together it will be close.  apparenly granny has been in the hospital twice in the last month and they aren't sure what it is.  they just know it isn't cancer now
08:59 < Synx|hm> my dads parents are still around but i have a feeling this year might be the last at least for my dads mom, her health has really been declining
09:00 <@Evilpig> I just want poor grandpa to be off the oxygen tank.  he looks so sad on it
09:00 < Synx|hm> well sorry to hear man, loss sucks
09:02 < Synx|hm> not to switch topics but has anybody here worked or know anything about working for Asurion
09:02 <@Evilpig> never heard of em
09:02 < Synx|hm> they do cell phone insurance among other things
09:03 < Synx|hm> but its a huge company (15,000) and i hear really great to work for
09:04 <@Dolemite> That's where Shelton went to work, Evilpig
09:05 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm: Yes, I know people there
09:05 <@Dolemite> Their main office is over in Grassmere Business Park
09:05 <@Dolemite> Where Deutsche Bank used to be when Pamela worked there
09:05 < Synx|hm> Dolemite: just curious what its like to work in IT there
09:06 < Synx|hm> i forgot how sucky it is trying to find a good job
09:08 <@Dolemite> The guy I know really enjoys it
09:08 <@Dolemite> He's in Security
09:08 < Synx|hm> cool, as in infosec?
09:08 <@Dolemite> Yes
09:08 <@Dolemite> InfoSec
09:08 < Synx|hm> id love to transition to infosec but i just dont have the experience for the salary i need :(
09:08 <@Dolemite> They also have a call center and it's like all other call centers - life sucks
09:09 < Synx|hm> ya not looking to answer phones, however my experience directly ties me to callcenters but on the VoIP side of things like qa/performance testing
09:12 < Synx|hm> i'm finding myself in a shitty place, my salary requirement does not align with my work experience
09:13 <@Evilpig> that's nashville
09:14 < Synx|hm> so blindly applying for positions sucks, i need somebody to actually read my resume and see how valuable i really am and ignore that i may not have the specific experience for x job but that i will learn it fast
09:14 < Synx|hm> bummer
10:03 <@Evilpig> bah!
10:03 <@Evilpig> drowning pool is playing here hte weekend of geeknic
10:06 <@rattle> You guys talking with the bsides folks?
10:06 <@rattle> Outside appearance is that se2600/nash2600 is no longer even remotely relevant in the overall southeastern infosec scene..
10:07 <@Evilpig> doubtful.  and it isn't
10:07 <@Evilpig> beofre I moved I was talking to them about some cross coordination but that ended 
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10:11 <@Evilpig> I should move all these cables to the hot aisle to try and get the kinks out of them
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10:19 <@Dickie> I like that sentence for some reason.
10:20 <@Dolemite> Fifty Shades of Cabletray
10:20 < dfused> hawt
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11:58 < Synx|hm> ugh fuck, went to streatch this morning and no i cant turn my head
11:58 < Synx|hm> last time i did this i almost made the wife drive me to the er the pain was so bad
11:58 < Synx|hm> time to call dr and schedule another round of neck injection
12:03 <@oddball> bwah?
12:03 <@oddball> I'm guessing this is a bit more than "damnit... pinched a nerve in my sleep."
12:06 < Synx|hm> they've always said its not a never and just a muscle spasm so maybe im making it sound way worse than it is
12:06 < Synx|hm> but its painful as fuck, not too bad right now but its steadly getting worse
12:06 < Synx|hm> s/never/nerve
12:07 <@oddball> suck
12:07 <@oddball> What, they inject a muscle relaxant into your neck or something?
12:07 < Synx|hm> and ive got friends coming into town this weekend ugh
12:08 < Synx|hm> steroid and numbing agent
12:08 < Synx|hm> had it done once to my shoulder too that felt really odd, i could feel this cold pressure building inside the joint from where it was being injected ha
12:08 <@oddball> huh
12:14 < Synx|hm> i had assumed this was a fairly common thing
12:15 <@oddball> The only times I've been poked with a needle has been vaccinations and when I needed stitches.
12:16 <@oddball> Sorry, and blood draws.
12:16 < Synx|hm> oh well my body must be falling apart then
12:16 < Synx|hm> fml
12:16 < _NSAKEY> rattle: I'm doing a talk there, if that means anything.
12:22 < Synx|hm> holy crap, openpaymentsdata.cms.gov go see how many free meals or other bribes you dr has received to perscribe drugs
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12:24 <@Neoteric> ...
12:24 <@Neoteric> so
12:24 <@Neoteric> i haz question
12:24 < Synx|hm> i haz a cheeseburger
12:24 <@rattle> Neoteric: It's full blown AIDS.  Sorry.
12:25 <@Neoteric> rattle: well i'm glad i bled all over your toothbrushes
12:26 <@Neoteric> rattle: actually ... forwarding you an email from big jim
12:28 <@oddball> Synx|hm: hint: it's "lots."
12:29 <@Neoteric> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZa4yre0uEk
12:29 < PigBot`> Title: Hitchhiker 히치하이커_11(ELEVEN)_Music Video - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:29 <@oddball> medical offices used to basically never need to buy pens and other office supplies... and then they made that illegal.
12:30 <@oddball> Now they just get a free lunch once or twice a week... the entire office.
12:31 < Synx|hm> ya my wife is an MA and hardly ever pays for her lunch
12:31 <@Neoteric> are you advocating for medical lunch disclosures ?
12:31 < Synx|hm> i dont mind that so much so not really bothered to see food there, but they also have to report if they pay the dr to talk to other dr's about said drugs et
12:32 < Synx|hm> Neoteric: if a drug rep pays for lunch yes that needs to be disclosed just like how it is now, and while i dont really agree with the practice i dont have much issue with the dr on accepting it
12:32 < Synx|hm> what is more important to me about that site is the other disclosures
12:33 <@Dolemite> How about we just make drug marketing illegal?  Instead make the information about drugs easily available to doctors to request.
12:33 < Synx|hm> like dr's who are paid to talk to other dr's about x companies drugs
12:33 <@Neoteric> Dolemite: what will hot vandy chicks do for their careers then ?
12:34 <@Dolemite> Neoteric: Become elementary school teachers
12:34 <@Neoteric> thik of the children and the future hot chicks that they will become
12:50 < aestetix> from big jim?
12:50 < aestetix> oh dc0de?
12:55 <@rattle> Neoteric: Thanks.  Don't have a gun budget right now.
12:58 <@Evilpig> I never have to buy lunch, who do I disclose that to?
13:03 < dfused> you dont. nobody cares
13:23 <@shapr> good morning?
13:34 < Synx|hm> so today i have to write code to play single frequency tones over a phone conversation so that two robo callers (one answering and one calling) can sync with eachother in a dymanic media environment
13:34 < Synx|hm> ive decided im going to play the imperial march song as my sync
13:40 <@oddball> Should be easy enough to find a midi of that.
13:50 <@Mirage> midi?  how archaic
13:55 <@oddball> Hey, he wanted single frequency tones.
13:56 < Synx|hm> id use multi-freq but i have to ensure these are not stripped out of the audio channel by some external system thinking they are DTMF and taking them out of band
13:57 < Synx|hm> that should read, stripping them and sending them out-of-band
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15:17 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: The next time you're accused of being a dickhear, just reference this -> http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/deformed-pig-penis-face-draws-attention-china and say, "No, THIS is a dickhead pig."
15:17 < PigBot`> Title: Deformed Pig With “Penis Face” Draws Attention in China | IFLScience (at www.iflscience.com)
15:17 <@Dolemite> s/dickhear/dickhead
15:20 < _NSAKEY> ... Of course it died.
15:22 <@Dolemite> Go home time
15:24 < _NSAKEY> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/second-mutant-pig-born-penis-5144066
15:24 < PigBot`> Title: SECOND mutant pig born with penis on forehead - this time in SCOTLAND - Mirror Online (at www.mirror.co.uk)
15:27 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I finally found the perfect gift for you.  On saturday you can eat my ass....  http://elitedaily.com/news/world/edible-anus-chocolate-butthole-mold/932939/
15:27 < PigBot`> Title: You Can Actually Give Your Valentine A Chocolate Mold Of Your Butthole (at elitedaily.com)
15:33 <@Bahhumbug> hehehehe
15:39 <@Evilpig> is it gay to eat another man's ass like that?
15:46 <@oddball> Huh... it looks like a federal district court just struck down the prohibition on buying handguns in a state that you don't reside in.
15:51 <@Evilpig> oddball: across the river?
15:51 <@oddball> As in they ruled that I should be able to go into a shop in Ky and buy a handgun.
15:53 <@oddball> The specific case dealt with DC, since there's currently only 1 gun dealer in the city... which is only open by appointment... in the police dept's HQ... and charges $125 transfer fee.  And that guy is only open because a judge informed the city that they had to allow *someone* to sell (legal) guns in the city.
15:54 <@Evilpig> heh.  never knew you couldn't buy them there.  but for legality sake that's the state in which I reside
15:55 <@oddball> Yeah... you can buy rifles and shotguns in a different state, but not handguns per the gun control act of '68.
15:56 <@oddball> Otherwise, you have to have it shipped to a dealer in your state.
15:56 <@oddball> You're still listed as a resident of KY?  You haven't lived there in years.
16:17 < RangerZ> http://www.ew.com/article/2014/11/10/evil-dead-tv-show
16:17 < PigBot`> Title: Evil Dead TV show starring Bruce Campbell greenlit by Starz | EW.com (at www.ew.com)
16:19 < RangerZ> oddball: legal residence has no requirement on 'living' some place
16:21 <@oddball> I was thinking he still had to consider it his main place of residence... which is clearly not the case here.
16:23 < RangerZ> nah
16:23 <@oddball> huh
16:24 < RangerZ> just this past few months I moved my 'legal residence' to TN
16:24 < RangerZ> from oh
16:24 < RangerZ> was just a legal form decision
16:24 <@oddball> Because you needed a new drivers license?
16:25 < RangerZ> b/c I didn't feel like traveling to OH to get documents/etc, new plates for my car actually
16:27 < RangerZ> also FUCK TN... b/c the social security office doesn't accept TN's temp licenses
16:27 < RangerZ> so what the fuck good are they?
16:27 <@oddball> heh
16:28 <@oddball> Shit... that reminds me.  I still need to turn in my application for a new passport/border card.
16:28 < RangerZ> it is NOT that fucking hard to print your god damn license AT the DMV, Ohio and even fucking UC Berkeley and Vanderbilt are able to do it...
16:29 < RangerZ> it like TN is purposely making the most WTF choices
16:29 <@Evilpig> oddball: my drivers license says ky
16:29 <@oddball> And the DMV used to do it.  I wonder when/why they stopped.
16:29 < RangerZ> getting EVERY person on the SAME 5 year renewal schedule is fucking stupid too
16:30 <@Evilpig> oddball: as long as I had my house in KY I maintained that as my primary residence for tax purposes.  after I sold that I shifted it to my parents place primarily so I can vote on local issues back there.
16:30 < RangerZ> "lets purposely make the DMV super crowded 1 year out of 5"
16:30 <@oddball> Yeah... that's just retarded.
16:30 < RangerZ> ohh... so they don't have to employ full time employees
16:30 < RangerZ> can hire "temps"
16:30 < RangerZ> ....
16:30 < RangerZ> I bet you thats it
16:32 < RangerZ> but I showed up at the DMV here... and there was like 100 people in line or so
16:32 < RangerZ> b/c.... we need to create an ARTIFICIAL bottleneck based on time...
16:35 <@oddball> By the way, I think you're mistaken about the syncing everyone to the same 5 year cycle.
16:35 <@oddball> The state's site is still showing that they're syncing it to 5 year incriments of the driver's age.
16:36 <@oddball> So,  you have to renew at 25, 30, 35, etc.
16:36 < RangerZ> well then the guy at the DMV was a fucking moron
16:37 < RangerZ> b/c I specifically asked that
16:37 <@oddball> http://www.tn.gov/safety/driverlicense/dllicensefees.shtml
16:37 < PigBot`> Title: Driver's License Fees (at www.tn.gov)
16:37 < RangerZ> honestly... fuck if I care
16:37 <@oddball> Ah... yeah... The guys at the DMV aren't exactly the smartest folks in the world.
16:38 < RangerZ> unless I am marry a girl who is staying in TN for a while... I'll probably be moving before I renew my ID so... ehh...
16:38 < RangerZ> and since i'm single...
16:39 <@oddball> I remember getting my learner's permit, and everytime I had to show ID, I used my dependent's military ID... and every time, they had to go ask the manager if that was acceptable.  The manager was screaming at folks by the time I was done.
16:40 <@oddball> Of course, they no longer trust the DMV with taking people's fingerprints, so...
16:40 <@oddball> (had to get mine taken for my carry permit.
16:43 < RangerZ> sure....
16:44 < RangerZ> it had nothing to do with your requirement to register where you live with the state and to go "introduce" yourself to your new neighbors....
16:51 < aestetix> http://newschoolsecurity.com/2015/02/the-new-cyber-agency-will-likely-cyber-fail/
16:51 < PigBot`> Title: The New Cyber Agency Will Likely Cyber Fail � The New School of Information Security (at newschoolsecurity.com)
16:54 <@oddball> Ironically enough, the place I went to get my finger prints taken to get my carry permit was Goin' Postal.
16:58 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Not trusting the DMV may have something to do with the wholesale bribery that went on years ago with the illegals.
16:58 < _NSAKEY> For $250 at the Rutherford County DMV, you could get a driver's license.
16:58 < aestetix> RangerZ: the California DMV requires a thumbprint to get your license renewed.
16:58 < aestetix> Not to *get* your license.
16:58 < aestetix> And not if you renew by mail.
16:59 < RangerZ> aestetix: its a safety issue
16:59 < RangerZ> that way they have the thumb print if you come in and renew as a different person
16:59 < RangerZ> b/c no one can fake anything via mail
16:59 < RangerZ> b/c republicans VOTE by mail
16:59 < RangerZ> so its fine
17:00 < aestetix> ...
17:00 < RangerZ> great news... Kansas took away rights from gay citizens
17:00 < aestetix> how about I bring in my old ID
17:00 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Well, for a few years, you didn't need to prove basically anything to get a license in this state.  No proof of state residence or if you were a citizen/legal alien.
17:00 < aestetix> and you look and see it's be
17:00 < aestetix> because it's a fucking photo ID
17:00 < RangerZ> b/c you wouldn't want to accidentally give them 'rights' like .... not being fired from your state job... for being gay
17:01 < aestetix> I mean fucking seriously
17:01 < aestetix> I should be able to come in, say "I need to renew my ID"
17:01 < aestetix> and to verify it's actually me, they can LOOK AT THE FUCKING PICTURE IN THEIR DATABASE
17:02 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I had to prove all that stuff to get one.
17:02 < _NSAKEY> It was renewals that had practically no burden of proof.
17:02 < _NSAKEY> That was chanced because DMV clerks were getting a second paycheck by selling licenses to illegals and letting them put down whatever they wanted.
17:02 < RangerZ> oddball: the reason I want a fucking passport is to avoid all this ID issue
17:03 <@oddball> You used to have to have your fingers printed in TN to buy a gun from a dealer, but the TFI actually backed a bill getting rid of them because they never found them useful to any case.
17:03 < RangerZ> (let alone being able to go to India/etc) when there is conf. there
17:03 < _NSAKEY> I had to prove citizenship when I renewed because of that law.
17:03 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Oh, I had to when I got one, but there was a few years in between where you didn't have to.
17:04 <@oddball> Which meant that I had to prove that shit *again* during one of my renewals because they re-instated it.
17:05 <@oddball> aestetix: That's the usual renewal process here... when the state hasn't fucked with the requirements.
17:05 < _NSAKEY> I dislike the fact that they shut down all the satellite DMVs that were running for a few years.
17:05 < _NSAKEY> When I renewed, I was in and out in under 15 minutes.
17:06 <@oddball> RangerZ: I want a passport and border card in part because of that, and I also visit my dad on a regular basis and might want to pop over to Windsor for lunch.
17:07 <@oddball> Oh... and then I'll have 3 government photo IDs in my wallet for arguments on how fucking difficult it is to get a government issued photo ID. :p
17:07 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Don't they require a passport to go to Canada now?
17:07 <@oddball> Yeah... the "renewal only" stations were damned handy.
17:08 <@oddball> Either a passport or a border card.
17:09 <@oddball> You can get a border card by going through the same process as a passport, but it's the same form factor as a license.  Only good for Canada and Mexico, though.
17:09 < _NSAKEY> my father made the mistake of going to canada after 9/11 and the unconstitutional watchlists but before the border card/passport requirement for Canada.
17:10 < _NSAKEY> He had no problems going into Canada, but coming home they treated him like he was smuggling bricks of C4 up his ass.
17:14 <@oddball> heh
17:15 < _NSAKEY> He hasn't gone back since, and probably never will.
17:16 < _NSAKEY> Or if he does, I imagine it would be a one way trip.
17:16 <@oddball> My TKD instructor kept getting "special treatment" at the airport for a while because his last name was Hasfjord.  Apparently they couldn't realize that it was a Scandanavian name.
17:16 < RangerZ> oddball: yeah, we used to go to niagra falls all the time
17:16 < RangerZ> but we only needed birth cert. before
17:18 <@oddball> My dad still goes over to Windsor from time to time.  He hasn't reported anything different.
17:18 <@oddball> Although "older white male who appears bored with this shit" doesn't exactly fit the threat profile.
17:18 < RangerZ> yeah
17:22 < RangerZ> until we have right wing religious zealots attacking us AGAIN from within
17:22 < RangerZ> aka... OKC bomber
17:22 < RangerZ> etc
17:23 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure that was anything other than a random crazy
17:24 < RangerZ> thats the only difference between ISIS/ISIL/IS and him
17:24 < RangerZ> they have more of our money b/c of oil
17:25 < RangerZ> the saudi family made a deal with the wahab family to split control of the lands now called Saudi Arabia
17:25 < RangerZ> the Saudi family takes control in all things except.... and the wahab family takes control in religion
17:27 < RangerZ> so we have wahabism being funded by the oil we buy, and that is the ultra -1400s version of Islam that has caused all the problems since 1990s  (once they stopped fighting russia in afghanistan)
17:27 <@Dagmar> At least they understand separation of church from state
17:27 <@Dagmar> Sort of
17:27 < RangerZ> not at all
17:27 < RangerZ> but i get your joke, lol
17:28 < RangerZ> church > state to them
17:28 < RangerZ> OBL was funded by lesser members of the Saudi family (the family has 1000s of members)
17:31 <@oddball> And I believe the Wahab control the schools.
17:31 < RangerZ> not the ones the rich go to
17:31 < RangerZ> obviously
17:32 <@oddball> Well, the rich come here... so, no. :p
17:32 <@oddball> (or england
17:33 < RangerZ> there are SOME princes that are more liberal/progressive
17:33 < RangerZ> one even is a gov'r of a 'province'
17:33 < RangerZ> but he's far from the king's seat
17:38 < RangerZ> I still say that within 100 years, we'll probably be allies (again) with Persia (Iran) vs Arabia (Wahabi-based Islamic feudal states in the middle east)
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17:41 < aestetix> if the US is still around in 100 years
17:41 < aestetix> albeit we're more likely to slide into some bullshit like Russia than die away
17:42 < RangerZ> nah it will be
17:43 < RangerZ> mainly b/c we have no real neighbors worth worrying about... right now...
17:47 < aestetix> well given the issues in health care, education, and income inequality....
17:47 < RangerZ> nah
17:47 < RangerZ> those are all easy to resolve
17:48 < RangerZ> just have to get money out of politics
17:49 < aestetix> ok how do we do that
17:49 < RangerZ> personally, I think the www.wolf-pac.com
17:49 < RangerZ> is the best attempt
17:49 < RangerZ> go into republican states and threaten them with bloomberg coming in and buying their election
17:50 < RangerZ> and liberals already know whats happening with Koch money, etc.
17:50 < RangerZ> its working quite well, already have 3 states with bills passed, and like 10 with bills working their way through the system
17:55 <@oddball> Hell, he's been trying to buy elections for a while now.  Outspending the NRA several times over in some cases.
17:55 < RangerZ> see... easy to convince NRA people
17:55 < RangerZ> ;)
17:56 <@oddball> Yeah... with pesky little things like "facts," and "the truth."
17:56 < RangerZ> just have to pick your boogieman well
17:56 < RangerZ> this is politics, facts don't matter
17:56 < RangerZ> US courts said so...
17:57 < RangerZ> they struck down Ohio's law stating that politicians can't lie in political ads
17:59 <@Bahhumbug> Because it's a nitpick of mine, there is no "Saudi family".  There is the House of Saud, which is the ruling family of the state of Saudi Arabia.
18:01 < RangerZ> yeah, but most people don't know/care about the difference, and easier to explain that way
18:03 <@Bahhumbug> Most people are sheep.  I consider the members of this channel, even wastes of carbon like aestetix, above that.
18:12 < RangerZ> but anyways, aestetix I think thats the order of operations, 1) fix money in politics via the states moving to call for a constitutional convention 1.1) get near 60% of the states calling for it 1.2) it'll speed up after ~10 states pass it b/c states are competitive for this kinda thing 1.3) the congress will pass a federal law calling for a constitutional amendment  before the states do... b/c they don't want to give up power and be th
18:12 < RangerZ> actually I'm thinking that got cut off... so...
18:12 < RangerZ> ... 1.3) the congress will pass a federal law calling for a constitutional amendment  before the states do... b/c they don't want to give up power and be the first congress to be seen as incompetent
18:13 < RangerZ> b/c previously, thats the pattern that has been followed
18:13 < RangerZ> many states sign on to a convention... then congress says "we don't want to give up power, so we'll do it"
18:23 < aestetix> but congress isn't doing anything
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18:29 < RangerZ> thats not 'quite' true
18:29 < RangerZ> they just passed the clay hunt veterans suicide prevention bill
18:30 < RangerZ> but also, you gotta remember... self-interest
18:30 < RangerZ> politicians will NOT want new rules passed that they didn't have a hand in crafting
18:31 < RangerZ> so if they feel that it is inevitable, then they will pass it themselves, if nothing else than to help craft it + have the ability to say to their voters that they were working FOR THEM
18:31 < RangerZ> gotta think in much more machiavellian terms
18:31 < RangerZ> lol
18:37 < RangerZ> damn it... making me think about running for politics again, lol
18:37 < RangerZ> sit on a hearing about cable monopolies "ok, we're going to eminent domain your coax on the poles"... thanks
18:38 < RangerZ> "but you have to pay us".... "we already did bitches"
18:38 < RangerZ> lol
18:44 < dfused> you just had a ten minute convo with yourself basically.
18:53 < aestetix> dfused: and this is different from normal how?
18:53 < dfused> its not. I just like taunting
18:54 < dfused> sooooo. teh DSCOVR launched tonight. was neat to watch.  its a shame that all the launch announcers all sound like NPR...
18:56 < RangerZ> dfused: i ramble
18:56 < RangerZ> thank god I'm not looking to have a job where I'm paid to ramble or anything..... oh wait....
18:57 < dfused> lol
18:57 < RangerZ> "back in my day, you were lucky if you had dial up"
18:57 < RangerZ> hehe
19:03 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvpsNR6OBQ
19:03 < PigBot`> Title: “Shut up or I’ll have you arrested….. low-life scum” – John McCain to anti-war activists - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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19:04 < aestetix> code pink is annoying
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19:24 <@Dagmar> A perfectly reasonable defense, I think https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9mT3LGIEAAxsdp.jpg
19:25 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnAaB_feYnA&feature=youtu.be
19:25 < PigBot`> Title: A fathers impassioned rant against ANTIVAXXERS - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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20:15 <@Evilpig> oddball: watching justified from last night and they're drinkin' apple pie out of mason jars
20:16 <@oddball> Oh... there was a season where the main bad guy (well, bad girl) was known for her apple pie.
20:17 <@oddball> Of course, with them, it's the "proper" moonshine.
20:18 <@oddball> Watching the first episode of Shameless.  I have to admit that I laughed when the dad spotted his daughter giving one of the guys a blow job under the dining room table.
20:19 <@Evilpig> that dude that was on Silicon Valley that played Erlich was just on this as a safe cracker.  the vaporized his ass with some type of explosive
20:19 <@Evilpig> You're in for a hell of a ride with that show
20:20 <@oddball> "I told you leave your cell phone in the damned car!"
20:20 <@Evilpig> yup.  pop!
20:21 <@oddball> By the way, this is the final season of Justified.  I highly recommend the entire series.
20:21 <@Evilpig> I've enjoyed it
20:22 <@Evilpig> kinda nice hearing a southern drawl after being up here so long
20:24 <@oddball> heh
20:26 <@oddball> Well, a good portion of the actors that they hired for that series are actually from the south, so the accents aren't faked (well, except for the guy that plays Rayland... who's from Hawaii).
20:35 <@Evilpig> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005U4JSTU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
20:36 <@Evilpig> if anyone has ever considered a back scratcher.  GET THIS ONE!
20:43 <@oddball> now to figure out why Plex isn't recognizing Shameless.
20:47 < aestetix> plex sounds like a weightlifting device
20:47 <@oddball> media server software
20:49 < aestetix> yes I know
20:51 <@Evilpig> oddball because you have it named wrong?
20:51 <@Evilpig> Shameless - US
20:51 <@Evilpig> or Shameless (US)
20:53 <@oddball> Thought I had tried that.
20:53 <@Evilpig> otherwise I predict...  file rights
20:54 <@oddball> File rights?  Never had that as an issue before.
20:54 < aestetix> god
20:54 < aestetix> What is it with northern california
20:55 < aestetix> The natives are incapable of depth and any kind of conflict
20:56 <@oddball> ah... didn't have the directory named right.
21:08 <@oddball> Ok... geography WTF time.
21:08 <@oddball> Shameless is supposed to take place around Chicago, right?
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> yes
21:09 <@Bahhumbug> Pilsen area for parts of it
21:09 <@Bahhumbug> Other parts are done around Cermak and 48th or so.
21:09 <@oddball> 2nd episode, one of the guys decides to take the father and drop him off "somewhere around Detroit... maybe Flint," then "sees a sign for Toronto, and thought it would be funny."
21:10  * Bahhumbug nods
21:10 <@oddball> How the fuck do you end up deciding "fuck it, let's go to Toronto" while driving between Chicago and Detroit?!
21:10 <@Bahhumbug> Hit Detroit, see Ambassador Bridge, take it?
21:10 <@oddball> annnd wind up in Windsor.
21:11 <@Bahhumbug> Granted, that's not exactly Toronto, but it's close 'nuf for Chicagoans.
21:12 <@oddball> Toronto is another 4 hour drive past Detroit.
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> You know that.
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> I know that.
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> But most Chicagoans?
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> They don't know that.
21:12 <@Evilpig> oddball: I thought he picked toronto to begin with for that?
21:12 <@oddball> nope
21:13 <@Evilpig> I'd have to go back and watch again though.  it's been a few years
21:13 <@Bahhumbug> Besides, I fear that if you are expecting accuracy you might be watching the wrong medium.
21:13 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: Oh, they actually show the space needle, so he was in Toronto.
21:13 <@Evilpig> it's still funny as fuck.  frank passes out, wakes up in canada
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> They let him back in the US :/
21:14 <@Evilpig> smuggled him back in
21:14 <@oddball> Yeah... It's just that this is up there with Bird on a Wire, where they caught the ferry from Detroit to Wisconsin.
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> It was better when he had to mule his way back in.
21:15 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: he isn't that far in yet
21:15 <@Evilpig> I forgot about that too
21:15 <@Evilpig> HAHAHAH
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> :)
21:15 <@Evilpig> was talking to carlos at work about it. I asked him what he though about the ending.  all he could say was "fuck!"
21:16 <@oddball> I'm going to guess that this was written by someone in LA.  I would hope that someone in NY would know where Toronto is... I could be horribly wrong about that.
21:17 <@Bahhumbug> Someone might.  It's a big city.
21:18 <@Evilpig> oddball: a dude from england and a dude from virginia
21:18 <@Evilpig> John Wells was born on May 28, 1956 in Alexandria, Virginia,
21:18 <@Evilpig> Paul Abbott was born on February 22, 1960 in Burnley, Lancashire, England
21:19 < aestetix> hahaha
21:20 <@oddball> I'm guessing the guy from England got writing credit for writing the original.
21:20 < aestetix> I love getting stuff in exchange for signing an agreement saying that I won't do something I wasn't going to do anyways
21:20 <@oddball> heh
21:29 <@Evilpig> oddball: yeah he's the creator of both versions
21:39 <@Evilpig> Mirage: how accurate is this?  http://cah.tumblr.com/post/110759693395/the-writers-of-jupiter-ascending-are-having-some
21:39 < PigBot`> Title: Cards Against Humanity: The Tumblr (at cah.tumblr.com)
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22:14  * Dagmar waves
22:16  * shapr particles
22:17 <@oddball> hey Dagmar
22:18 <@Dagmar> Not so loud!  I'm reflashing my phone
22:20 <@Dagmar> I got my hands on a nifty bloat remover, but I'm going to give the official firmware _one_ shot at not pissing me off
22:20 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I hope you remembered to put the Buddhist talismans up to block spirits and did the Taoist chants to cleanse the phone first
22:21 < RangerZ> lol
22:21 <@Dagmar> I just do not like blind serial transfers
22:23 < RangerZ> there needs to be a BIOS for phones soon
22:23 < RangerZ> b/c its getting silly
22:23 <@Dagmar> CWM does a slid job of that
22:24 <@Dagmar> Both the main third-party bootloaders do an excellent job
22:24 <@Dagmar> TWRP is nice, and it's even themable, but I don't need to get tangled up in customizing the interface on my bootloader
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22:25 <@Dagmar> So... it got done, rebooted, went through a recovery boot briefly, rebooted again, and Now I'm watching the 'Samsung' logo slowly pulsing on the screen
22:25 -!- dfused_ is now known as dfused
22:25 <@oddball> and then.. doom
22:26 <@Dagmar> Maybe
22:26 <@Dagmar> I have no idea what the fuck it's doing right now
22:27 <@Dagmar> I will give it five minutes to finsh in case it's doing something that matters and then I will risk powercycling it
22:29 <@Dagmar> I *probably* need to forcibly reset the caches
22:30 <@Dagmar> I doubt it's bricked or anything, it's just annoying
22:30 <@Dagmar> They released a 4.4.2 firmware in like October and then an update in late January
22:31 <@Dagmar> I'm flashing straight to the updated version, so I figure it's not a wipe image
22:32 <@Dagmar> Just had to smother the power button
22:34 <@Dagmar> Okay... A factory wipe and cache clear later... let's see what happens
22:34 <@Dagmar> Fun.
22:34 <@Dagmar> Same shit.
22:36 <@Dagmar> Ahh... Works now
22:37 <@Dagmar> Now is the point I really don't like.
22:37 <@Dagmar> "Download All The Things" time
22:37 <@Dagmar> The moment you tell the phone who you are... 800Mb of apps
22:37 <@Dagmar> lol
22:38 <@oddball> yep
22:39 <@Dagmar> I shudder to even think about it because the last time I was testing various kangs
22:39 <@Dagmar> Reflashing takes five minutes... all thet damn downloading is an hour
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23:25 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLTCYy2N54
23:25 < PigBot`> Title: NYPD: Solution To Another Garner Death Is To Make Resisting Arrest A Felony - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:28 <@Dagmar> It'll probably be the first city to erupt into warfare
23:33 < RangerZ1> and part of all of us... (i'm going to guess) ... is fine with that
23:34 < RangerZ1> the NYPD rank & file... needs to stop being 'OK' with excessive force, etc
23:34 < RangerZ1> actually... NYPD needs to move to "Community Policing"
23:34 < RangerZ1> where you have the people policing the area LIVE IN THE AREA
23:34 < RangerZ1> it worked for boston/philly
23:35 < RangerZ1> hell it worked in youngstown...
23:35 < dfused> yes yes.... if you see something, say something. ....sounds just peachy
23:36 <@oddball> Step 1. is that the NYPD needs to stop thinking of itself as an occupying military force.
23:39 < dfused> 1.a. stop giving them military grade weapons.
23:40 <@Dagmar> Step 1: the NYPD needs to stop being an occupying military force
23:42 < dfused> I'm addicted to sugar.
23:42 <@oddball> Dagmar: fair enough
23:43 <@oddball> At least they no longer have a mayor that openly refers to them as "his army."
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