--- Log opened Sat Feb 07 00:00:09 2015 --- Day changed Sat Feb 07 2015 00:00 <@Evilpig> it was already said if he wanted to do anything in the psring it was with his money, his equipment and the organization wasn't to be involved 00:00 <@Dagmar> He can't act on behalf of the org outside the bylaws. 00:00 <@Evilpig> however that was from the board that didn't exist 00:00 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOZQ-CN9Jw8 00:00 < PigBot`> Title: The Super Bitch of Comcast - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:02 <@Dagmar> 39 technicians? 00:02 <@Dagmar> How the hell does it take more than three visits? 00:03 <@Dagmar> Either the signal meter shows the path is clear or it doesn't and someone should run new coax 00:04 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: The dude on the right sounds so familiar 00:04 <@Dagmar> I have seen him _somewhere_ before 00:05 <@Dagmar> He sounds like Topher from Dollhouse but I don't think that's it 00:06 <@Dagmar> Maybe he has his own webcast elsewhere 00:09 <@Dagmar> Whose address is the 577 michele Drive? 00:15 <@oddball> Antioch address. I'm guessing Corydon's. 00:15 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 00:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 00:15 <@klixa> so, who are the new board people 00:16 < _NSAKEY> klixa: Elonka, Andrew M, and Peaches. 00:16 <@klixa> awe, not Amber? :( 00:16 <@klixa> j/k 00:16 <@Dagmar> Oh HELL o 00:16 <@Dagmar> no 00:16 <@klixa> hehe 00:16 <@Dagmar> From the rundown Ben have I suspect more than a few of us wrote down every .name but hers 00:17 <@Dagmar> Frankly I'm surprised she got four votes 00:17 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: that's tilghman's address 00:17 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah I just had that confirmed 00:17 < _NSAKEY> I'm not seeing the minutes in my inbox. 00:18 <@Dagmar> Just making sure they werne't mailing them to the wrong place or something since the invoice has 'WILBUR' on it 00:18 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Oh give him time he'll get them up 00:18 <@Evilpig> nope. my name was on it because i was the only contact 00:18 <@Dagmar> He's probably tucking the childlets in or something 00:18 <@Evilpig> err I was the old 00:18 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: He didn't send them out? 00:18 < _NSAKEY> I'm just making sure I didn't accidentally mess something up earlier while I was swiping around on my phone. 00:18 < _NSAKEY> I think I accidentally archived something, but don't know what it was. 00:19 <@Dagmar> Nah I don't have it yet 00:19 <@Dagmar> ...and... you _delete_ mail? 00:19 <@Dagmar> heheh 00:19 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Not on purpose. 00:19 <@Dagmar> One of the reasons I have a gmail account is that I never have to delete anything 00:19 <@Dagmar> Hell a few years ago I thought i'd lost my WoW authenticator 00:19 <@klixa> i have like over 10,000 gmails...90% spam 00:20 <@Dagmar> I called Blizz and they needed the original serial code the game was set up with 00:20 <@Dagmar> I was like "oh fuck" and the rep told me precisely what day it had been sent... and it was like six years ago... STILL HAD IT 00:21 <@Dagmar> Gmail used to show up front how much of your space you're using 00:21 <@klixa> i have a papa johns pizza card with a balance number somehwere in my gamil...and my FAFSA pin 00:21 <@Dagmar> It's now buried somewhere in the interface bacause it just doesn't matter 00:21 <@Dagmar> I've got easily 12 years of mail in there 00:21 <@oddball> I think the fact that she recieved 4 votes is pretty damning. 00:21 <@Evilpig> herself, dru. figure out the other two 00:22 <@klixa> Dagmar: the % used is on yoru inbox page at bottom 00:22 <@Dagmar> I could maybe pick two names if I cared to think about it btu I'm not wasting time worrying about it 00:22 <@klixa> actually its on all pages apprently 00:22 <@Evilpig> I would say it's safe to put dink and eldredge in that column, without knowing who else was there 00:22 < _NSAKEY> Just to be clear, ben has not sent out the minutes yet? 00:22 * klixa is using 1.77 of 15gb 00:22 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: He has not 00:22 <@Evilpig> he said he was going to the movies 00:23 <@Dagmar> klixa: Nowhere on my Gmail screen does that information appear anymore 00:23 <@Evilpig> I wouldn't expect anything tonight. if he goes to the 10:20 show he won't be home before 1 00:24 < _NSAKEY> Just wanted to make sure that I didn't have any PEBKAC going on. 00:24 <@Evilpig> does anyone have a regex handy that is good for urls ? 00:24 <@klixa> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xg4dbsuls5gi5ku/Screenshot%202015-02-06%2021.23.45.png?dl=0 00:24 <@klixa> thats how mine looks 00:25 < _NSAKEY> klixa: What IRC client is that? 00:25 <@Dagmar> Ah... 3.12Gb of 15Gb used 00:25 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: textual, with my own custom theme 00:25 <@Dagmar> I had to scroll down past the end of my inbox 00:25 <@Evilpig> klixa: mine -> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i191s0wtg2dwd4n/Screen%20Shot%202015-02-07%20at%2012.25.10%20AM.png?dl=0 00:25 < _NSAKEY> An account I use regularly has 8.46GB of 15GB used. 00:26 <@Dagmar> Are you people mailing yourself screenshots or something? 00:26 <@Evilpig> no 00:26 <@Evilpig> mac thing 00:26 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: https://www.dropbox.com/s/62jl5iienj1z4zu/Screenshot%202015-02-06%2021.26.13.png?dl=0 theres a better view 00:26 <@Evilpig> cmd + shift + 4 then draw a box over what you want 00:26 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: This is work related. Lots of zips of paperwork (PDFs and spreadsheets) going back and forth. 00:26 <@Evilpig> drop picture into dropbox 00:26 <@klixa> Evilpig: my screenshots auto go to dropbox 00:27 <@Evilpig> I don't let anything auto go there except pictures on my phone 00:27 < _NSAKEY> Oh, that actually looks nice. 00:27 <@klixa> i use trunx, but i was using dropbox+carousel 00:27 < _NSAKEY> Still don't think I could be compelled to give irssi up though. 00:27 <@Dagmar> Hrm... 00:27 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: i was using weechat, but i like clickable links 00:28 <@Evilpig> klixa: you can cmd click links in a terminal just fine 00:28 <@klixa> i had weechat setup so i should shift click, but if they were too long it wouldnt work, and even when they werent the whol screen flashed 00:28 <@Dagmar> I wonder if I put in some rule to delete really old mails 00:28 < _NSAKEY> I know what you mean. 00:28 < _NSAKEY> <--- former weechat user. 00:28 <@klixa> Evilpig: it stil acted screwy tho 00:29 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: i liked weechat better... but i always theme my own clients, and weechat was easier to deal with 00:29 <@klixa> tho, the css for textual is teh easiest of all to mod 00:29 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cditxofwvbavceke] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:30 < _NSAKEY> Editing irssi themes is no fun. 00:30 < _NSAKEY> I took one of the random ones off the website and changed the timestamp colors for readability. 00:31 <@klixa> yeah i always started with other themes 00:32 <@klixa> cyanic was my fav to use as a base 00:32 < _NSAKEY> On another note, one of my tor relays now has pretty much every good flag except "exit." https://globe.torproject.org/#/relay/8125F606841648C40C1F3D2080BBDBDB3493FB13 00:32 < PigBot`> Title: Globe 0.4.8 (at globe.torproject.org) 00:34 <@Dagmar> I suspect apparently I had Evolution deleting mails automatically at some point in 2004 00:34 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That's around the time gmail started. 00:35 <@Dagmar> Okay 00:35 < _NSAKEY> According to some piece about early gmail, they ran it off a bunch of disused Pentium 3 servers they had laying around because nobody would let them buy new hardware. 00:35 < _NSAKEY> Thus the reason gmail was invite-only at first. 00:35 <@Dagmar> I knew I got in during their beta 00:35 <@Dagmar> I was just thinking by now maybe I should have more than 2Gb 00:36 < _NSAKEY> That article got published last year and was talking about the 10 year anniversary. 00:36 <@Dagmar> er 3Gb. I'm on a number of security mailing lists 00:36 <@Dagmar> Full Disclosure alone is like 27,000 of them 00:36 < _NSAKEY> Found it. http://time.com/43263/gmail-10th-anniversary/ 00:36 < PigBot`> Title: How Gmail Happened: The Inside Story of Its Launch 10 Years Ago Today (at time.com) 00:36 <@Dagmar> I was looking for that serial number to actually write it down 00:39 <@klixa> 20,944 emails... bleh 00:44 <@klixa> the "oldest" button seems to have vanished 00:44 <@Dagmar> It's not there for some kinds of searches 00:44 <@Dagmar> You'll have to narrow your search a bit or just >> your way to the end 00:45 <@Dagmar> Still.. I get a ton of damn mail 00:45 <@Dagmar> I've no idea how you people have so much volume unless you get a lot more attachments 00:45 <@Evilpig> ugh. stupid js 00:45 <@Evilpig> I swear. 00:45 <@Dagmar> Oh! 00:46 <@Dagmar> *facepalm* 00:46 <@Dagmar> i was trying to figure out why my MythTV box said it has so much auto-expirable stuff 00:46 <@Dagmar> I forgot when I first set it up there was a Doctor Who marathon on 00:46 <@Dagmar> ...and it recorded multiple entire seasons. 00:46 <@Dagmar> hehe 00:47 <@Dagmar> The MySQL build MythBuntu uses is unforgivably slow, but for recording I'd say that passed a reliability test 00:47 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Virtually every inbound e-mail I get on that account I mentioned has around 400-600KB worth of attackments. 00:48 <@Dagmar> Ick 00:48 < aestetix> how did it go 00:48 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The meeting, you mean? 00:48 <@klixa> i figured out oldest; i was trying ot do it in all mail...you just hover over 1-100 of 20,049, and a pop up menu comes up and you can select oldest 00:48 <@klixa> 5/31/05 is my oldest email 01:00 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru-2jYlC-_E 01:00 < PigBot`> Title: Chinese teen Cuts Off Hand To Curb Internet Addiction - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:01 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Okay so either the logging is not reliably in-order, or once again the docs are wrong 01:01 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Supposedly onEnabled is called first 01:01 < _NSAKEY> One can only wonder if that Chinese teen thought about the lifetime of one-handed typing jokes that lies ahead. 01:02 < aestetix> yes 01:02 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Yes to what? 01:02 <@Dagmar> RangerZ2: This is insane http://pastebin.com/dewzsbHG 01:02 < PigBot`> Title: So much for accurate documentation - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 01:02 <@Dagmar> RangerZ2: Hence hte reason this stuff gives me fits 01:02 < _NSAKEY> Oh, the meeting. 01:02 < _NSAKEY> It wasn't the bloodbath I was expecting. 01:03 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 01:03 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://pastebin.com/dewzsbHG 01:03 < PigBot`> Title: So much for accurate documentation - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 01:04 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:07 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: THe only saving grace is that onUpdate comes with no appWidgetIDs attached the first time 'round 01:08 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What do you want to know about it? 01:09 <@Dagmar> No wait, nevermind 01:09 <@Dagmar> That's not correct 01:09 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: This looks like something you'd find funny: https://imgur.com/gallery/Nb15FWi 01:09 < PigBot`> Title: 2000 BC vs 2000 AD - Imgur (at imgur.com) 01:09 <@Dagmar> Still the events _clearly_ do not happen int he order the documentation says they should 01:11 <@Evilpig> or they are just delayed in logging? 01:12 <@Dagmar> They should _not_ be 01:13 <@Dagmar> Either way this log run should help sort out the mess 01:14 <@Dagmar> At one point I was doing some things that required initialization from onEnabled which hadn't happened yet, and it was breaking shit 01:14 <@Dagmar> A big fat NPE and my widget would disappear 01:14 <@Dagmar> Sooo... that sorts out _that_ edge case 01:15 <@Evilpig> I'm crashing. night y'all 01:25 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMcz0SFSJ_w&list=PLZ9NgFYEMxp4KSJPUyaQCj7x--NQ6kvcX 01:25 < PigBot`> Title: Introduction: Course Organization and Topics - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:25 <@RangerZ> thats the entire playlist for adv. OS in Android 01:26 <@RangerZ> 9 & 10 cover intents & broadcast recievers 01:28 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Which one covers "why we should beat Android devs more often"? 01:28 <@RangerZ> 42 covers how to make widgets that react every second to update via a clock... 01:28 <@RangerZ> video 43 is when to slap other android devs 01:28 <@Dagmar> Ahhh 01:28 <@RangerZ> ohh sorry... only 41 videos in this playlist... 01:29 <@RangerZ> each ~30min 01:29 <@RangerZ> lol 01:29 <@Dagmar> Well, I may have to make that one myself 01:29 <@Dagmar> You saw the pastebin, right? 01:29 <@RangerZ> no 01:29 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://pastebin.com/dewzsbHG 01:29 < PigBot`> Title: So much for accurate documentation - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 01:29 <@RangerZ> I went back to ISIS to meet up with a friend and see if my algorithm worked for her to find the bottleneck in the buffering she was using with DDS 01:30 <@Dagmar> This explains _perfectly_ why i was seeing fucking NPEs at random in one iteration of the widget 01:30 <@RangerZ> then to the store 01:30 <@Dagmar> I was trying to do what the docs say and initialize things in onEnabled 01:30 <@Dagmar> ...but it isn't necessarily called first. 01:30 <@Dagmar> _Despite_ what the docs claim 01:31 <@RangerZ> ohh shit... you're not on L yet 01:31 <@RangerZ> the docs you are reading only count for L 01:31 <@RangerZ> let me find you the old ones 01:31 <@Dagmar> *glare* 01:31 <@RangerZ> hehehe... sorry... that was too easy.. 01:36 <@RangerZ> http://stackoverflow.com/a/26038927/2801237 01:36 <@RangerZ> thats a pretty good answer 01:36 <@RangerZ> it allows the broadcasted Intent to 'stay around' after being consumed once 01:36 <@RangerZ> so that you can check the 'state' of a system-wide variable easily 01:37 <@Dagmar> Ah okay 01:37 <@Dagmar> That would be a really sneaky place to store cached values 01:37 <@Dagmar> I am guessing I can attach extras to it at will 01:37 <@RangerZ> yep 01:37 <@RangerZ> they do NOT survive a reboot though 01:37 <@Dagmar> Oh I have no concerns about that 01:38 <@RangerZ> but ok, I'm going to crash now... been up 26 hrs... 01:39 < _NSAKEY> On that note... aestetix: If you want to know how the meeting went, you should speak up soonish. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to clearly understand written English. 01:43 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: why? too drunk? :p 01:43 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I'm tired and have a headache. 01:43 < _NSAKEY> The advil hasn't quite kicked in yet. 01:44 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZmM_x-PJBY&feature=youtu.be&t=12m6s 01:44 < PigBot`> Title: Overview of Android Components: Broadcast Receivers - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:44 <@RangerZ> there you go... the 'entire' covering of ... in the lectures... 01:45 <@RangerZ> b/c basically only system intents use them... 'mostly' 01:45 <@RangerZ> lol 01:45 <@RangerZ> so not 'that' useful 01:45 <@RangerZ> lol 01:45 <@RangerZ> but yeah... night 01:45 <@Dagmar> For what I've got in mind they'd be fine 01:45 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: So again, what do you want to know? 01:45 < _NSAKEY> Your nominee for the board didn't win, if that's all you care about. 01:45 <@Dagmar> You may have noticed I'm one of those nutjobs who always puts in a default: entry for switches 01:45 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: watch out... Faust ... he asked the same question 01:49 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:50 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: You're going to love this.... [android:updatePeriodMillis="1000"] 01:50 < RangerZ1> you just need to put that in your android manifest, and then pull the system time... 01:50 <@Dagmar> Will not work 01:50 <@Dagmar> The system will quietly decide you really mean a half hour and go with that 01:51 <@Dagmar> It will work on older Android releases, and then quietly _stop_ working when you install to a newer one 01:51 <@Dagmar> Been there, done that, and verified it is true 01:51 < RangerZ1> ahh yeah... nvm... 01:51 < aestetix> klixa: so what's the worst sexual experience you've ever had? 01:51 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: did everyone at least agree the lemur is cute? 01:51 < RangerZ1> those 'updates' will WAKE THE PHONE and everything... 01:52 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yes, actually 01:52 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: It wasn't brought up to the full group. 01:52 < aestetix> Could you make the lemur an honorary board member? 01:53 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Do you have any questions which don't consist of your limp brand of baby trolling? 01:53 < aestetix> but it's so cute 01:53 <@Dagmar> Actually I was under the impression they're not supposed to wake the phone 01:53 < RangerZ1> http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTitle/Professional-Android-4-Application-Development.productCd-1118102274,descCd-DOWNLOAD.html 01:53 < PigBot`> Title: Professional Android 4 Application Development - Wrox (at www.wrox.com) 01:54 < RangerZ1> ch_14_myWidget 01:54 < RangerZ1> has an example from Reto Meier 01:54 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: don't you want a lemur? 01:54 < RangerZ1> Google's Android Evangelist 01:54 <@klixa> aestetix: i dunno...i tend to forget about bad things in general if i can 01:54 < aestetix> klixa: what about the funniest 01:55 < RangerZ1> alright... thats above and beyond what I was planning on doing, but figured I'd look in THE book I have about android and see what it says 01:55 <@klixa> not sure i have a funniest but i have a weirdest aestetix 01:55 * RangerZ1 hugs klixa in a non-rapey way (to be clear) 01:56 < RangerZ1> goodnight 01:56 < aestetix> ok 01:56 <@klixa> RangerZ1: night 01:56 < aestetix> what is it 01:56 <@klixa> aestetix: it was sme guy id been friends with for years, and i was drunk and bored, and he liked me alot, so i let him... and he put on a bustier right before sex 01:56 <@klixa> i was just all "wtf" 01:57 <@Dagmar> I kinda want to ask how you find these freaks 01:57 <@klixa> he was into crossdressing... and i think i knew that cause he had mentioned it, but i didnt really think about it... but i found that to be totoally weird 01:57 <@Dagmar> ...but then, I don't actually want to know 01:57 <@klixa> Dagmar: same way i found you! LOL 01:57 < aestetix> wait you'll have sex with some guy because you're drunk and bored? 01:57 <@klixa> aestetix: when i was younger, yeah 01:58 <@klixa> bustier guy was a Vandy student and a DJ on 91...i met him by calling 91 rock 01:58 < aestetix> do a lot of girls just go for sex that way? 01:59 <@klixa> aestetix: im kinda messed up in the head with no impulse control 01:59 <@klixa> not so much anymore...but back then i was 01:59 <@klixa> i still get impulsive urges to do things, but i suppress them now 02:01 <@klixa> aestetix: sometimes i was just bored and made out with a guy ...i ahvent really been with that many people...about the average amount as anyone else, maybe even less 02:02 <@klixa> i met my ccurent mf when i was 21, and i havent been with anyone else at all since then, and thats 15 years 02:02 <@klixa> bf* 02:02 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: No. My dogs are enough of a handful. 02:04 <@klixa> aestetix: and the 4 years before my current bf, i was with a christian who didnt believe in doing anything before marriage... 02:06 * klixa really needs to put aestetix on ignore until no longer tempted to actually answer his trollish questions 02:07 < dfused> quite 02:07 < _NSAKEY> klixa: Just call attention to his inferior trolling style and leave his questions otherwise ignored. 02:08 <@klixa> lol 02:08 < _NSAKEY> If enough people type at him about being a baby troll, he'll either step up his game or STFU. 02:08 <@klixa> he wants to be a baby troll tho 02:08 <@klixa> thats his mo 02:09 < _NSAKEY> ... I just got this weird image of aestetix as a weird form of diaperfur. 02:09 <@klixa> um 02:09 < _NSAKEY> Do I get to explain that one, or is Google sufficient? 02:10 <@klixa> im afraid to google 02:10 <@klixa> last time, i gonored my fear and now know what a donkey punch is :/ 02:10 < _NSAKEY> Furries who wear diapers. 02:10 <@klixa> igored* 02:10 <@klixa> furries are so messed up 02:11 < _NSAKEY> That's the least painful and most concise way to describe it. 02:11 * klixa changes subject 02:11 < _NSAKEY> Excellent move. 02:12 < _NSAKEY> You should ask about the meeting or something, since the baby troll won't. 02:12 <@klixa> um ok, how was the meeting? 02:12 < _NSAKEY> It wasn't the unmitigated shitstorm that I was expecting. 02:12 < _NSAKEY> Wilpig gave me the unredacted version of the t-shirt invoice, which was hand delivered at the meeting. 02:13 < _NSAKEY> jonnyx/corydon say that it's been taken care of. 02:13 <@klixa> how much was the invoice for 02:13 < _NSAKEY> Without looking, my brain wants to say $984.77 for the shirts. 02:13 <@klixa> ok 02:13 <@klixa> i have seen it discussed for yhte past week, so i was curious of the amount 02:14 < _NSAKEY> I also brought up to jonnyx, in front of Elonka the new board member, how he had discouraged me from attending meetings. 02:14 < _NSAKEY> The look on her face was something akin to "Oh FUCK." 02:14 <@klixa> discouraged how? 02:14 < _NSAKEY> At PN18, after I had already expressed an interest in doing talks in the future, I asked about 2600 meetings. 02:14 < _NSAKEY> I was told "Eh... Now's not such a good time to go to meetings." 02:15 < _NSAKEY> Something about "trolls left over from the skydog days." 02:15 < _NSAKEY> I told him that when he said trolls, I took that as a challenge. 02:15 <@klixa> im sure he was still going to meetings tho... 02:16 <@klixa> what do you people do at meetings anyway? it seems like its ALL about pn all the time 02:18 < _NSAKEY> I even told him, he brought up that he wanted locals to step up during the keynote, yet discouraged me from going to meetings. 02:19 < _NSAKEY> His reasoning was that because of the things that had gone down at recent meetings, he didn't want potential sponsors or speakers going, then deciding not to sponsor or speak. 02:19 <@klixa> apprently this chanel is logged online 02:19 <@klixa> i just learned 02:20 < _NSAKEY> klixa: You mean with wilpig's ircstats page? 02:20 <@klixa> http://stuff.gerdesas.com/se2600logs/ 02:20 < PigBot`> Title: Index of /se2600logs (at stuff.gerdesas.com) 02:20 <@klixa> i mean that 02:20 < _NSAKEY> Oh, Bahhumbug's archive. 02:20 < _NSAKEY> I just assume that anything on freenode is logged/public. 02:21 <@klixa> i dont like the logging practice tho 02:21 <@klixa> espeically when its not ANNOUNCED 02:48 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/search?q=angry+face <-- just TRY not laughing 02:48 < PigBot`> Title: angry face - Google Search (at www.google.com) 02:48 <@Dagmar> wait no.. 02:48 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/search?q=angry+babyeface 02:48 < PigBot`> Title: angry babyeface - Google Search (at www.google.com) 02:49 <@Dagmar> =godamnit 02:49 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/search?q=angry+baby+face 02:49 < PigBot`> Title: angry baby face - Google Search (at www.google.com) 02:49 <@Dagmar> There we go 02:50 < _NSAKEY> Since we're sharing and caring, this is stuck in my head and won't get out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zGqRXZlnY 02:50 < PigBot`> Title: TREAT ME LIKE A PIRATE - Flynt Flossy, Yung Humma, Whatchya (@Turquoisejeep) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:53 <@klixa> wow, that video is like super high tech and stuff... 02:55 <@Dagmar> I don't ask aestetix these types of questions but... what the hell made you watch that in the first place? 02:55 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: A friend sent it to me. Where he got it, I don't want to know. 02:56 <@Dagmar> You need to roofie him, and while he sleeps, replace every rington on his phone with "Never Gonna Give You Up" and then write-protect the entire directory. 02:57 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: If you invent a way to do that over TCP/IP, let me know. 02:58 < _NSAKEY> In all seriousness, the guy who sent it to me is A+ 03:00 < _NSAKEY> We practically make a game of sending each other offbeat stuff as it's found. 03:01 <@Dagmar> I'll let you know the next time I come across another rich vein of nightmare fuel. 03:01 <@klixa> here is my cntribution of offbeat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNyG-xu-7SQ 03:01 < PigBot`> Title: Zlad! - Elektronik Supersonik HD BEST QUALITY Remastered Sound - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 03:01 < _NSAKEY> That works for me. 03:11 <@klixa> ok, now im in youtube land 03:19 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 03:48 <@Dagmar> Jesus what an asshat 03:57 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/Fucking_HIppies.txt 03:57 <@Dagmar> er 03:57 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/Fucking_Hippies.txt 03:59 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:37 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 04:39 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Client Quit] 04:39 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 04:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 05:01 <@Bahhumbug> Wow. What a complete clusterfuck. McElroy on the board as a co-conspirator; peaches on the board as a completely impartial member. Not being content with mere ineptness and incompetence they are going for criminal negligence, at _best_ on the claims of a dead computer holding financials.... 05:02 <@Bahhumbug> I gotta hand it to Nashville 2600... you take idiocy to a completely new level. Kudos. 05:04 <@Dagmar> Well... I do intend to ask later about the hard drive 05:05 <@Dagmar> It's not like we don't have some experience with recovering data 05:05 <@Dagmar> In the meantime I'm collecting rather a lot of data about Mr. Misner there 05:06 <@Dagmar> Perhaps he should never have said "Do you know who you're talking to" 05:08 <@Dagmar> ...because now I do know rather precisely and in detail. 05:08 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:13 <@Bahhumbug> Who? 05:15 <@Bahhumbug> Anyone on the board is a fool at this point. Smart people should have just walked away. NotLarry would be smart to walk away at this moment as his position is more ceremonial than anything else but he's still on the line for this idiocy along with the rest. 05:15 <@Bahhumbug> The rest deserve whatever happens if/when the state and IRS is notified of this. 05:15 <@Dagmar> I don't think things are that deteriorated yte 05:16 <@Bahhumbug> They've been in the shitter for a while and anyone without an emotional attachment to the organization would recognize this. 05:16 <@Bahhumbug> You've been played for fools. Each and every one. 05:16 <@Dagmar> Well, Sunday we're apparently going over all the paper paperwork and we'll see 05:17 <@Bahhumbug> Want to make a friendly wager right now that said paperwork is incomplete? 05:17 <@Bahhumbug> Because... cake... icing... 05:18 <@Bahhumbug> I suspect that if that isn't the case then the computer holding said financials wouldn't have have failed a drive. 05:18 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously... the level of what the absolute fuck is exceedingly high here. 05:21 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure if we find malfeasance the responsible parties will be ejected _at speed_ 05:22 <@Bahhumbug> By who? 05:22 <@Dagmar> By the board members 05:22 <@Dagmar> ...and the members. 05:22 <@Bahhumbug> Financial malfeasance is on the head of the treasurer of the organization, no matter whom signed what check or contract. You really think peaches is going to act against his boyfriend? 05:22 <@Dagmar> ...and basically _everyone_ 05:23 <@Dagmar> He won't have to. 05:23 <@Bahhumbug> We'll see. 05:23 <@Dagmar> Because if we get handed three pieces of paper and a tissue on Sunday, it'll be hard to avoid a lynching. 05:24 <@Bahhumbug> Seems they've been avoiding that for some time already. 05:24 <@Bahhumbug> But let's hope you're right. 05:24 <@Dagmar> This is where the rubber meets the road 05:24 <@Bahhumbug> I won't hold my breath, but let's hope. 06:34 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 06:59 <@Bahhumbug> So... I got bored for a brief moment and since I'm about to go shower anyway I figured the stench wouldn't stink... so I looked at crazy bitch's twatter... 06:59 <@Bahhumbug> https://twitter.com/anarchival/status/563926937056190464 06:59 < PigBot`> Title: anarchival on Twitter: "Bless me, father, for tonight I drank a bushwacker. Its been 37 days since my last booze." (at twitter.com) 06:59 <@Bahhumbug> I call lies. 07:04 < aestetix> howdy 07:04 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: everyone but Elonka is a fool. 07:05 <@Bahhumbug> She wanted part of this... 07:06 <@Bahhumbug> She seems highly intelligent, highly capable and not one to mess around. 07:06 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not knocking her per sae. 07:06 <@Bahhumbug> But she wanted part of this clusterfuck. 08:42 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:42 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:53 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 08:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 08:55 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Vyrus001, @Dickie 09:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Vyrus001 09:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Dickie 09:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dickie] by ChanServ 10:19 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 10:44 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Who is Mr. Misner? 10:58 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: she knows what she is getting into. 11:01 < _NSAKEY> Based on what was related to me by jonnyx last night, the org apparently already has a $5k sponsorship that's either done or so close to done that it isn't funny (Can't remember which), with a high probabilty of more coming. 11:02 < _NSAKEY> I guess we'll see what happens. 11:03 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: maybe NotLarry worked out a deal with NABMBLA 11:03 < aestetix> NAMBLA* 11:07 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Actually, I think they found a group that could hold their noses long enough to have their way with your mother. 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> +1 11:29 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:13 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: The little bitch featured in that log URL I posted earlier is who 12:14 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Who made the mistake of showing his ass to me and then uttering the damning phrase... "Do you know who I am?" 12:15 < _NSAKEY> I read that and it didn't make a lot of sense, probably because I don't play Ingress. 12:15 <@Dagmar> Either way, I've got his mom's home phone number now 12:18 <@Dagmar> Calling his mom up to discuss his recent behaviour is cold, but I'm sure will be quite effective 12:18 <@Dagmar> I might have a twisted sense of humor, but his nonsense was simply entirely uncalled for 12:38 <@NotLarry> LaterZ 12:38 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 12:59 < aestetix> Dagmar: wtf 13:02 <@Evilpig> fyi 13:02 <@Evilpig> 12:30 I emailed elonka and explained my fear of amber and the possibility that her accusations could cost me my job are forcing me to leave the community. 13:02 <@Evilpig> and he's 100% serious 13:07 < aestetix> .... 13:07 < aestetix> Why would she cost him his job 13:07 < aestetix> She does know not to cross professional with personal, right? 13:08 <@Bahhumbug> Please remove your head from your ass. 13:09 < aestetix> She *does* know better than to get someone fired from $dayjob for something that happened unrelated, right? 13:10 < aestetix> If she doesn't, that actually creates a real hazard. 13:11 <@Evilpig> aestetix: because he works at vandy. all he has to get is one semi-valid accusation and they'll let him go 13:12 <@Evilpig> it could later be proven otherwise but their safe course of action is just cut ties to avoid the way it looks to their image 13:12 < aestetix> Why the hell would she do that? 13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Because she's an evil, vindictive bitch. 13:13 <@Evilpig> she's fucking insane! that's why 13:13 < aestetix> I could see trying to get him blacklisted from phreaknic or something 13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Toss in a large dose of insane and you get a bad combination. 13:13 < aestetix> Not cool, but still within the bounds of reason. 13:14 < aestetix> But from his fucking job? 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> There is no reason with her. 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> Yes. 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> She's a raving cunt. 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> Period. 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> There is no middle ground. 13:14 <@Evilpig> have you seen her twitter? do you have any doubts as to her sanity? her level of what is reasonable? 13:14 <@Bahhumbug> There is no reasoning with her. 13:14 < aestetix> Maybe if she had to keep a job and pay her own bills she would know what that's in the red zone. 13:15 <@Bahhumbug> Stop thinking she is sane and reasonable. 13:15 <@Evilpig> you don't need a job if you're on disability or claim to have a relative on disablilty that you must take care of... 13:15 < aestetix> Don't you need to have some kind of training to care for someone on disability? 13:16 <@Evilpig> no 13:16 < aestetix> ... 13:16 < aestetix> So is she on disability, or claims to have a relative? 13:17 <@Evilpig> iirc her mother 13:17 < aestetix> Ok. 13:17 < aestetix> I'm shocked that the state wouldn't require a certified professional to be involved. 13:17 <@Bahhumbug> The thing that should have drowned crazy bitch in a nearby creek when she was still a baby. 13:17 <@Bahhumbug> I blame all this on her. 13:17 < aestetix> Or at least make her get training. 13:18 <@Evilpig> #se2600.2014-01-25.log:19:30 <@anarchival> klixa: I've been my mother's financial support and caretaker since I was a teenager. Yes, she lives with me. Yes, I cook her dinner. Among other things. 13:18 <@Evilpig> #se2600.2014-01-20.log:17:02 <@anarchival> Evilpig: Well I am my mother's sole financial support, and also care for her since she is physically handicapped, so she is unusually protective of me since if something serious were to happen to me she knows she'd be dead, too. 13:19 < aestetix> And she doesn't repsect her mother enough to get training to care for her properly? 13:19 < aestetix> I at least have some solace in knowing she probably has to wipe her mom's butt. 13:20 <@Bahhumbug> Stop believing what she says. 13:20 <@Bahhumbug> Or writes. 13:21 <@Evilpig> Just saying. we can verify she doesn't drive, she lives with her mother, they're poor as shit talking about subsidies and whatnot 13:21 <@Evilpig> the logical conflusion there is one or more of them are claiming disability 13:21 <@Evilpig> conclusion* 13:23 < _NSAKEY> So I updated google chrome earlier and it won't run now. 13:23 < _NSAKEY> /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable: line 8: /bin/readlink: Permission denied 13:23 < _NSAKEY> /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable: line 10: /usr/bin/dirname: Permission denied 13:23 < _NSAKEY> /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable: line 15: /bin/grep: Permission denied 13:23 < _NSAKEY> /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable: line 15: /bin/grep: Permission denied 13:23 < _NSAKEY> This computer can no longer run Google Chrome because its hardware is no longer supported. 13:23 <@Bahhumbug> They could both be. But still... not a _single_ thing she says/writes should be considered credible. She's also shown herself to be an almost-habitual liar. 13:23 < _NSAKEY> Have any of you ever encountered that? 13:23 < aestetix> Is this one of those cases where she couldn't make it in the real world and had to move back in with mom, and tells everyone it's so she can "help" her? 13:23 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: YesNoMaybe 13:24 <@Bahhumbug> _NSAKEY: What platform? 13:24 <@Bahhumbug> Something that doesn't suck? 13:24 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Debian Wheezy. 13:24 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: that could be a permissions error that just went wrong. you running stable on chrome? 13:25 <@Bahhumbug> apparmor cnofused? 13:25 < _NSAKEY> The hardware = AMD FX-8350 with an Asus Sabertooth 990FX and a GTX650 Ti BOOST for the card. 13:25 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: I thought of apparmor, but I don't think any profiles which would affect google chrome are loaded. 13:25 <@Evilpig> think i'm gonna make some beef stroganoff 13:26 < _NSAKEY> Then again, I did "aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d./*" without a care in the world. 13:26 < _NSAKEY> It worked until this most recent update though. 13:26 <@Bahhumbug> ram/filesystem issues perhaps 13:26 <@Bahhumbug> Sitting in an unlinked directory? 13:26 < _NSAKEY> I'm disabling all the apparmor profiles now just in case. 13:26 < _NSAKEY> It was apparmor. 13:27 < _NSAKEY> Thanks for the second guessing. 13:27 < _NSAKEY> I might not have tried that. 13:27 <@Bahhumbug> Luck. 13:27 <@Bahhumbug> I hate debian :) 13:27 < _NSAKEY> I know you're more of a red hat guy. 13:27 <@Bahhumbug> But at the moment I actually hate EL7 more. 13:27 <@Bahhumbug> Much, much more. 13:27 < _NSAKEY> I went with Ubuntu back in 2007 because that was the hot distro at the time. 13:27 <@Bahhumbug> It sucked then, too :) 13:28 <@Bahhumbug> In fact, it was worse. 13:28 < _NSAKEY> Then they started wanting to roll their own everything, and I hopped over to Debian as soon as Squeeze came out in 2010. 13:28 <@Bahhumbug> If I could not have EL I would deal with debian, probably. 13:28 < _NSAKEY> Debian's only pissed me off in the last year or so, since I started having to apt-pin more. 13:28 <@Bahhumbug> But none of that ubuntu retarded junk. 13:28 < _NSAKEY> EL7? 13:29 <@Bahhumbug> Enterprise Linux 7 - in this case CentOS-7 13:29 < _NSAKEY> Oh my god. I know what screwed me over now. 13:29 < _NSAKEY> I tried generating an apparmor profile for google chrome just for laughs and forgot about it. 13:30 < _NSAKEY> I thought I had deleted that, or not enabled it at least. 13:30 <@Evilpig> man... I fuckin' hate when my guys at work don't listen to me 13:30 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Has systemd given you any fits? 13:30 <@Bahhumbug> I despise it. 13:31 <@Bahhumbug> I don't have the words to describe to just what extent I despise it, either. 13:31 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha. 13:31 < _NSAKEY> I'm playing the wait and see game. 13:31 <@Bahhumbug> I want to play the Stab Lennart In The Dick Repeatedly game but no one will let me. 13:32 < _NSAKEY> To get myself used to the idea of moving my stuff elsewhere, I set up a freebsd vm just for one server to test out. 13:32 < _NSAKEY> It wasn't terrible. 13:32 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sorry to hear that. They make a creme to remove the BSD stench now. 13:32 <@Bahhumbug> It's called "gasoline", but it does work. 13:32 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha. 13:32 < _NSAKEY> Well, it was good enough for my testing. 13:33 <@Bahhumbug> You know, BSd might be preferable to dealing with this install. 13:33 * Bahhumbug cries quietly in a corner 13:33 < _NSAKEY> I'm still not sold on moving everything to a BSD, but at least it's less mysterious as an option now. 14:04 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 14:52 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:26 < Synx|hm> fuck comcast 15:26 < Synx|hm> this is my last free month of data overage 15:27 < Synx|hm> im going to try and get down 2TB 15:27 < Synx|hm> fuck these clowns 15:28 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: Does TDS offer service in your area? 15:28 < _NSAKEY> I checked with them last summer, and there are no caps with them. 15:36 <@Dagmar> They're a company that apparently purchased some of the more rural neighborhoods from AT&T and have been doing not a bad job of it at all 15:36 <@Dagmar> My parents have their service out in the HErmitage area 15:39 -!- InfoSecDog_ [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:39 <@Evilpig> didn't mirage use them back before he bought that house in nashville? 15:41 <@Bahhumbug> fall0ut used to work for TDS a couple years ago for what it's worth. 15:42 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:43 <@shapr> anyone at PyTN today? 15:43 <@shapr> or tomorrow? 15:52 <@shapr> I haven't seen the former se2600 member I saw last year 15:52 <@Evilpig> doubtful 16:00 < _NSAKEY> shapr: Tickets were sold out as of a couple weeks ago. 16:00 <@shapr> ah well 16:00 < _NSAKEY> Nobody here has even mentioned it, so the answer to your question is probably no. 16:03 <@Bahhumbug> Is crazy bitch going? Seems her type of thing. 16:04 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: No idea. 16:16 < aestetix> http://billmoyers.com/2015/02/04/share-scraps-economy/ 16:16 < PigBot`> Title: Welcome to Our New Share-the-Scraps Economy | BillMoyers.com (at billmoyers.com) 16:17 <@Dagmar> I'd rather join the lynch mob, personally. 16:25 < Synx|hm> _NSAKEY: negative :( im on united.net who is stuck in the stone age as far as their billing codes (even where they have no shit fiber to the home they make you buy phone and only offer 100mbit) 16:25 < Synx|hm> im about 500ft away from their fiber but they will only offer me 12Mbit DSL on my street 16:27 < Synx|hm> so comcast business seems to be in my future :( 16:28 < Synx|hm> hope hbo gets on the hbogo without cable service kick SOON 16:29 <@benthemeek> FYI- minutes are up guys 16:31 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: So... question. Where's the machine that had the hard drive fail? 16:32 <@benthemeek> It was a multi-input accounting system running on one of tilghman's servers from my understanding 16:33 <@benthemeek> He has all the paper but his machine crashed and his back up was bad or something 16:33 <@Dagmar> Ah okay 16:33 <@benthemeek> I had to lookup what multi-input vs single-input was when he was discussing it 16:34 <@benthemeek> I was just like use Google spread sheet :P and I was schooled in why that is a bad idea 16:34 <@benthemeek> So quickbooks in the cloud it is 16:34 <@benthemeek> I know Tilghman has to be exhausted with doing all this 16:35 <@benthemeek> I think tomorrow will be a very good thing 16:36 <@Dagmar> Yeah because having to do a little extra typing into Google is so much worse than losing all the data 16:37 < aestetix> Wow. 16:37 < aestetix> In an argument, someone just told me that in "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" that the pursuit of happiness is a throwaway phrase. 16:39 <@benthemeek> aestetix: Fight the good fight brother 16:40 <@benthemeek> Im weary of arguing, I want kum-ba-ya and campfires at this point 16:43 <@Dagmar> Jrdud 16:43 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:43 <@Dagmar> Goddamn comcast 16:43 < Synx|hm> yup yup 16:43 <@benthemeek> I have been hearing that a lot lately. I have maybe 70 plus installtions of comcast cable and I am not having any problems :-/ 16:44 < aestetix> benthemeek: I generally argue to figure out someone else's perspective. 16:44 < aestetix> Not trying to fight or prove anything. 16:44 < Synx|hm> its not the service, its their fucking insane business practices 16:44 <@benthemeek> of course it is business class but its been extreemly reliable for my vpns 16:44 <@Dagmar> They increased the price of their Service Protection Plan to $4.95/month, raised their Broadcast TV Fee from $1.50 to $3.25, and added a new Regional Sports Fee for $1/month 16:44 <@Dagmar> I think on Monday I'll call and give someone shit about that last one 16:44 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:45 < Synx|hm> call who? the 18 year old working at their call center? he wont do anything for you 16:45 < Synx|hm> but read from his script 16:45 <@Dagmar> His tears will make me smile 16:45 <@benthemeek> Aestetix: I am facinated by people who seemed to have mastered the art of listening. I feel like a kid in their presence 16:45 < aestetix> benthemeek: indeed. 16:45 < aestetix> benthemeek: I typically argue by asking questions. 16:46 < aestetix> Speaking of which, tell Corydon to come back 16:47 -!- InfoSecDog_ [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 16:47 <@benthemeek> Case in point: Elonka sort of mediated a discussion and an airring of grieveneces between myself and Amber last night. 16:48 < aestetix> heh 16:48 <@Evilpig> you mean she listened while crazy went off and you backed off 16:48 < aestetix> she's good at that 16:48 <@benthemeek> I think as an individual I have avoided conflict far too often to have meaningful skills at communicating durring it. Anyway I was schooled but all went well 16:49 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:49 <@benthemeek> Actually Elonka made sure the discussion was equal. I gained much respect 16:49 <@benthemeek> for Elonka I mean 16:50 <@benthemeek> I left dinner feeling like that if everyone could sit down across the table together the world's problems would be solved the the conflicts would go away. I know that is not true but it was a good feelings :P 16:50 <@Dagmar> I just hope a meteor lands on Amber 16:50 <@Dagmar> It would really be the best solution for all parties involved 16:51 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Oh so you didn't notice when Amber tried twice in a row to pick a fight with me 16:51 <@benthemeek> I saw it out of a corner of my eye 16:51 <@benthemeek> that there was a discussion 16:51 <@Dagmar> I'm not even going to try to be civil the next time she pulls that 16:51 <@Dagmar> My patience is all used up 16:52 <@benthemeek> Im really glad the conflict with elonka as mediator happened with myself and Amber though. At the end of the meeting she was angry at me for reading her tweets despite me being blocked and I was talking about her accusations of rape threats. 16:52 <@Dagmar> I am done putting up with her psycho bullshit 16:53 <@Evilpig> she was mad that you were reading the bile she makes public? 16:54 <@benthemeek> I highly suggest a discussion with Elonka present. It is likely to accomplish more and not devolve to name calling and accusations. 16:54 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dttfhzejsgtyrene] has joined #se2600 16:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 16:54 <@Dagmar> FUck that 16:54 <@Dagmar> I don't want to accomplish anything. There's nothing to "acocmplish" 16:54 <@Dagmar> I want absolutely nothing to do with Amber, for any reason. 16:55 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I want her gone. She's caused enough mayhem. 16:55 <@Evilpig> there's something to accomplish but civil society frowns on tar and feathering the mentally ill 16:55 <@Dagmar> I'll settle for my every response to her simply being "Fuck off" 16:56 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 16:57 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:57 <@Dagmar> If she wants to pull her crazy victim bullshit to gain sympathy and attention from the gullible on the internet, that's her right 16:57 <@Dagmar> She is not, however, going to be allowed to do it by trying to claim this group made threats it did not 16:58 <@Dagmar> That was literally the point of no return for me. she's crossed it. It's time for her to go away and not come back. 16:58 <@benthemeek> When threats are made in jest here. Like "I want to smash your face in" or something. How is that to be handled? 16:59 <@benthemeek> I mean I have always wrote that off as poeple joking around, but none the less after talking with Elonka and her last night I really began to wonder if it should be said at all 16:59 < RangerZ1> first of all, this isn't the nashville2600 chat room... 2ndly, this was suppose to have happened in may... 'wtf' was said 17:00 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: you keep talking to crazypants expecting civil discourse and eventually you'll believe that you shouldn't speak at all. 17:01 <@benthemeek> I am not suggesting creating some type of Code of conduct for here or anything. But I think I am aware now at least of how those one off remarks can be taken 17:01 <@Evilpig> chop off that penis of yours and then you'll have hte right to speak 17:01 <@benthemeek> Where as I didnt really notice before 17:01 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: one off remarks CAN be taken any way THE RECIEVER WANTS .... which also means... if she WANTS to be the victim of a non-harrassment statement....she CAN be 17:02 < RangerZ1> which is why I want to know what was suppose to have been said 17:02 <@benthemeek> Wait you mean here? 17:02 <@Bahhumbug> hahahahaha 17:02 <@Bahhumbug> CoC 17:02 <@Bahhumbug> On IRC> 17:02 <@Bahhumbug> . 17:02 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [shutting down] 17:02 <@Bahhumbug> ahhahaha Thank you for that. I needed a laugh after fighting with ovirt for the past few hours. 17:03 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Hold up right there... No one here has said anything like "I want to smash your face in" 17:03 <@Dagmar> She was banned from here _to prevent_ things getting to that stage 17:03 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I have 17:03 <@benthemeek> Aren't there like moderated channels here where people aren't allowed to ad-hominm and call names and such? 17:03 <@Bahhumbug> I have. 17:03 <@Evilpig> actually last night I said i'd like to fuck her face with a jackhammer 17:03 <@benthemeek> I mean it might be a good idea for phreaknic to have one 17:03 <@Bahhumbug> I've threatened aestetix any number of times. 17:03 <@benthemeek> just thinking outloud 17:04 <@Dagmar> Either way, she has made an accusation on Twitter that would appear to be claiming one of us threatened to rape her 17:04 <@Dagmar> This will not stand. 17:04 <@Bahhumbug> I wouldn't fuck that thing with Mercster's dick. 17:04 <@Bahhumbug> Just to get that on the record. 17:04 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #se2600 17:04 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o ChanServ] by asimov.freenode.net 17:06 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: in regards to that, I dont think that should be said. I think it breaks down civil discourse. Thats just my opinion. I am one who tends to like rules and politeness if they made sense 17:06 <@Bahhumbug> She blew any chance of polite discourse in this channel. 17:06 <@Bahhumbug> Repeatedly. 17:06 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: I don't care. she should find her way into the trunk of a car that's headed for teh crusher 17:07 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:07 <@Evilpig> it'd be better for society all around ot have her hate filled speach removed from teh internet once and for all 17:08 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:08 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Yeah no problem. this is why we say, no more. She isn't wanted here. 17:09 <@Dagmar> She isn't welcome, she should probably leave and go find a therapist. 17:11 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 17:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 17:11 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: I dont even mean Amber specifically I am just wondering a loud at the casual remarks made on IRC or in electronic media in general. 17:12 <@benthemeek> Oh well I cant solve the worlds problems, but I guess if new members join the community at least we can make them understand that all that stuff in here or are group shouldnt be taken seriously 17:13 <@benthemeek> s/are/our 17:13 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: yes, they should be, thats the problem we have with "SJWs" shouting down anyone who doesn't 100% agree with them 17:13 < RangerZ1> and SJW of BOTH sides 17:13 < RangerZ1> b/c to me SJW = any activist in their own personal war 17:13 < aestetix> penis 17:14 < RangerZ1> and anyone who agrees 70% with you is 'an enemy' (Shanely is good example of this) 17:14 < RangerZ1> mind you... she turned out to be a troll... 17:14 <@benthemeek> RangerZ: Indeed and I agree of the dangers of censorship 17:14 < RangerZ1> but SPECIFICALLY our type of group can't accep that 17:14 <@Bahhumbug> benthemeek: This is IRC. It is what is has been since 1988. 17:15 <@Bahhumbug> If people take things said on IRC as truth they're idiots. 17:17 <@benthemeek> Bahhumbug: Yeah, I understand that. Perhaps IRC needs to exist to give people a place to actually say what they are thinking without filter. I was the one that invited Amber into this chatroom in the beggining so I can be blamed in part for some of went down 17:17 <@benthemeek> It was a stupid mistake 17:17 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: look at the GamerGate fiasco... the night it started I talked about the story... and said 'why' it was blowing up... the fact that girl (zoe)'s ex b/f was refering to her as ...5 guys and fries... which made us all snicker... b/c It IS funny 17:17 <@Evilpig> the whole problem with SJWs is they are trying to change groups to fit what they want. what happened to finding groups of folks like yourself and you create a community out of similarities? 17:17 <@Bahhumbug> It wasn't a stupid mistake. 17:18 <@Bahhumbug> You had no way of knowing then she was an insane bitch that should be chained up in an asylum for ever and ever. 17:18 <@benthemeek> :P 17:18 <@Mirage> benthemeek: At least you didn't do like Critch and invite someone like Teri, then drop off the face of the earth 17:18 <@Bahhumbug> I'm an asshole. 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> She makes me look nice. 17:19 <@Evilpig> Mirage: ouch. 17:19 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> She picked a fight with quite literally _everyone_ in this channel. 17:19 < RangerZ1> but after that there 'was' issues to be looked into into the closeness of all the social ties between all the game devs/reviers out in SF... so when the fiasco of all the DOXing/name calling/etc started... you had to pick to be either 100% pro-GG or anti-GG ... and that is never good 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> Even ones that never spoke to her. 17:19 <@Mirage> Evilpig: it's an acurate statement 17:19 <@benthemeek> Critch brought Terri? 17:19 <@Mirage> yes 17:19 <@Evilpig> it was, but still. ouch 17:19 <@Mirage> Or at least that was the understanding 17:20 <@benthemeek> I haven't seen her in a couple of years. 17:20 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:20 <@Mirage> benthemeek: what a crying shame 17:21 <@benthemeek> since I recently had to check over all the minutes I think she has only been to one meeting. 17:21 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: its the same with channel/group/etc... we probably all agree with her stance 10~20% on name calling or w/e... but she refuses to let us have that 15%... she says we are 100% WITH or AGAINST her... and so we all pick against b/c fuck someone who wants to be like that 17:21 <@benthemeek> I dont think she was a good fit for our group 17:21 * benthemeek stays polite :P 17:21 <@benthemeek> (terri I am referring too 17:22 * RangerZ1 Screen Caps benthemeek saying Amber isn't a good fit for our group 17:22 < RangerZ1> ;) 17:22 <@benthemeek> Ultimatums and anti-authority is general is kind of one of our things, I get that 17:22 <@benthemeek> no ultimatums rather 17:22 <@Mirage> Hrm..ESXi 5.5p2 officially supports CentOS 7 but not RHEL 7...?? 17:23 <@Evilpig> lol? 17:23 <@Evilpig> can't get RH to sign off on it? 17:24 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Did my e-mail in reply to Elonka go out on the list? 17:24 <@Mirage> _NSAKEY: yeah, but i didn't read it 17:26 <@Mirage> ugh..I forgot that I have to rebuild my lab environment from scratch. =( 17:27 <@benthemeek> Elonka is crazy busy today 17:27 <@benthemeek> like 3 group meet ups or something 17:27 <@benthemeek> but hopefully you will get a reply soon 17:27 <@Mirage> She brought it on herself (and loves every minute of it), so I have no sympathy 17:29 <@benthemeek> In my head I am already thinking of events as BHE an AHE. before hurrican elonka and after hurricane elonka 17:29 < _NSAKEY> Mirage: That's fine. I just wanted to make sure it went out. 17:30 <@Mirage> benthemeek: lol. very appropriate 17:30 < _NSAKEY> I don't actually care if anyone reads it or not. 17:30 <@Mirage> benthemeek: just keep her away from hentai 17:30 <@Mirage> crap, gotta get ready for my cousin's b-ay gathering. l8r 17:31 <@benthemeek> Did she used to live in nashville? 17:31 <@benthemeek> Elonka I mean 17:32 <@Evilpig> no 17:37 <@Evilpig> seeing this crazy viking fuck on gold rush is just amazing 17:37 <@Evilpig> part doesn't fit, use a sledge hammer 17:37 <@Evilpig> take time and do it right? fuck that, just pull it and it'll go 17:40 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: thts pretty much Viking theology 17:40 < RangerZ1> lol 17:50 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dttfhzejsgtyrene] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:50 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:50 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mfhxekvaeuwepwam] has joined #se2600 17:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 17:52 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 17:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 17:52 -!- klixa-cloud is now known as klixa-cloud_ 17:54 <@Evilpig> I really want to see this 75 year old mining barge work. that'd be pretty cool 18:12 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: so the CEO of Tumblr is next? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWgkpJaUYmU hehe 18:12 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter CEO: "We Suck At Dealing With Trolls" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 18:33 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: highly doubtful. they are very proud about dealing with user complaints 18:39 < RangerZ1> how about their employees being served with libel suits -at work- :) 18:39 < RangerZ1> lol 18:46 <@Dagmar> What's this about...oh.. I got it 18:47 <@Dagmar> Still no response from Amber about these supposed rape threats 18:47 <@Dagmar> Lying bitch 18:48 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck 18:48 <@Dagmar> Naienko is playing Ingress 18:49 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: how dare you blame the victim and make her prove that she was attacked. how insensative of you. bawhahahaha 18:50 <@Dagmar> When the claim is being made in my direction in a matter that reflects poorly on me, and the _correct and appropriate_ action is to address the person making such threats? 18:50 <@Dagmar> She doesn't get to blame her no longer being associated with us on _us- 18:51 <@Dagmar> oddball: Your girl is playing Ingress now? 18:59 -!- klixa-cloud_ [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mfhxekvaeuwepwam] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:01 < RangerZ1> https://medium.com/@KatieS/as-a-working-mom-evenings-are-sacred-i-am-fairly-religious-about-leaving-the-office-at-a-certain-5d92326e0a2b 19:01 < PigBot`> Title: My first and last time at the Crunchies — Medium (at medium.com) 19:01 < RangerZ1> ugh... 19:07 <@Evilpig> i'm torn. this movie looks interesting http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/ but it's in french and I don't really feel like paying enough attention to it to read it all 19:07 < PigBot`> Title: The City of Lost Children (1995) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 19:08 <@Dagmar> It's good 19:08 <@Dagmar> I barely noticed it was subtitled 19:08 <@Dagmar> I keep forgetting it is actually 19:09 <@Evilpig> it's been good so far. I just tend to do shit like code when I have movies on and with subtitles I can't do that 19:09 <@Evilpig> I actually have to pay attentino to it 19:30 <@oddball> Yeah... good movie 20:21 <@Evilpig> ha ha 20:21 <@Evilpig> arrow sticking threw her. "does it hurt?" "yes. i'm allergic to steel" 20:31 <@Evilpig> http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinchack/tumblr-posts-that-will-make-you-reevaluate-existence#.hqQKxAze7 20:31 < PigBot`> Title: 35 Tumblr Posts Thatll Make You Reevaluate Your Entire Existence (at www.buzzfeed.com) 20:38 <@Evilpig> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/1/14/enhanced/webdr05/enhanced-buzz-10810-1412188167-10.jpg 20:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 20:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 20:50 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 20:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 21:18 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:24 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:42 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:28 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 22:46 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-9-94.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:45 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 23:59 <@Evilpig> gees. my hosting server is working hard tonight --- Log closed Sun Feb 08 00:00:05 2015