--- Log opened Thu Feb 05 00:00:23 2015
00:19 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: then just use GPS time http://stackoverflow.com/a/8210575
00:29 <@Dagmar> o.O
00:30 <@Dagmar> It's not that
00:31 <@Dagmar> In the _logs_ I was seeing stuff like 12:24:01.102 ... 12:24:02.070 ... 12:24:02.997
00:31 < RangerZ1> and?
00:31 < RangerZ1> thats 'close' to a second
00:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah but I'm truncating not rounding
00:31 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure where the inaccuracy is coming from tho, since the clock _seems_ to always update once a second
00:32 <@Dagmar> er my display
00:32 <@Dagmar> Updating once per minute tho, it'll show up
00:32 < RangerZ1> if you 'need' second-accurate display of time across distributed systems... TDMA
00:32 < RangerZ1> pretty much no other option
00:32 <@Dagmar> Not distributed, just one device
00:32 < RangerZ1> ohh, then just round ;)
00:32 <@Dagmar> I don't care if it's the correct time, I just need it to change the number when it's supposed to change the number
00:32 <@Dagmar> ...and not display the same thing twice
00:33 < RangerZ1> You won't get that without running a service yourself
00:33 <@Dagmar> Well, I have been telling the system service to trigger at the precise top of the second since a few updates ago
00:33 < RangerZ1> ...yeah....
00:33 < RangerZ1> ....no....
00:33 < RangerZ1> hehe
00:34 <@Dagmar> I know the system shuffles things around for efficiencies sake, but I wasn't prepared to see events happening just _before_ the time they're supposed to
00:34 <@Dagmar> ...at least that's what is winding up in the logs
00:34 < RangerZ1> it was just being "nice"
00:34 < RangerZ1> and giving what you need 'before' you needed it ;)
00:34 <@Dagmar> Well, I'll stomp that bug when I come to it
00:34 < RangerZ1> isn't it so kind?
00:35 <@Dagmar> I am irked I spend $35 on a phone holder tonight
00:35 <@Dagmar> It's claws aren't deep enough to hold my big-ass phone
00:35 <@Dagmar> Whatcha wanna bet it's freaking thermosetting plastic
00:35 <@Dagmar> er chemosetting, not thermosetting
00:35 <@Dagmar> I am going to _try_ to heat parts of it to bend and stretch the claws
00:35 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: actually an easy way to do this... would be have the widget store the last second and if the new second is 'the same' just make it +1
00:36 <@Dagmar> Well, the problem is that I haven't noticed it actually skipping seconds on the display
00:36 <@Dagmar> ...which is baffling
00:36 < RangerZ1> hmm
00:37 <@Dagmar> I mainly started truncating the initial setting of the alarm to make things slightly more accurate
00:37 <@Dagmar> ...and now I may be causing another bug as I switch to a more dynamic tick timer
00:38 <@Dagmar> I think for tonight I'll just settle for cutting that config screen up into a landscape mode
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00:50 < Synx|hm> so tired
00:51 < Synx|hm> have to start 4 hours of work at midnight
00:52 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_uNvy5KMo
00:52 < PigBot`> Title: Firing Women for Breastfeeding Not Sexist Since Some Men Lactate - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:52 < RangerZ1> thats such BS
00:57 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: so good news since the manual iptables rules incoming packets are showing correct public IPs woot
00:57 <@Dagmar> I'm not particularly suprised
00:58 <@Dagmar> The word "DMZ" lurking about suggested to me that what that part of the GUI was meant to do was something qutie separate from what you were trying to do
00:58 < Synx|hm> ya
00:58 < Synx|hm> thanks for all your help today it was awesome
01:00 <@Dagmar> No problem
01:15 < Synx|hm> so poor comcast installer today
01:15 < dfused> STELIOSssssss
01:15 < Synx|hm> guy rolls up next door around 11am
01:15 < Synx|hm> about 6pm another truck rolls up while im taking trash out, i hear the first guy digging in his truck yell to himself (how much fucking shit do you fucking idiots want)
01:16 < Synx|hm> guy #1 didn't leave till 730pm
01:16 < dfused> damn
01:16 < RangerZ1> what did they get? 40 cable boxes?
01:16 < Synx|hm> also my new neighboors yell at eachother in the streets (at least while moving in) bump stupid loud bass in their car at random hours in their drive way
01:17 < Synx|hm> no fucking clue but the installer did not look happy
01:17 < Synx|hm> i considered offering the guy a pizza
01:17 < RangerZ1> yeah... or a beer
01:17 < RangerZ1> lol
01:22 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x28fVYyU9M
01:22 < PigBot`> Title: Tablet Market Sees First Ever Year-on-Year Decline Since 2010 | Apple & Samsung Lose Market Share - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:22 < RangerZ1> so 'this' could actually be a good thing for tech
01:22 < Synx|hm> so i need a new cell soon me thinks
01:22 < RangerZ1> since tablets are -much less often- refresh devices than phones
01:22 < Synx|hm> my note 2 is becoming longer in the tooth by the day
01:22 < Synx|hm> do i just re-image it to something like cmod or get somethign new
01:23 < Synx|hm> im not keen on a sprint contract extension at the moment
01:24 < RangerZ1> especially since FCC announcement INCLUDED wireless
01:24 < RangerZ1> not just wired
01:39 <@Dagmar> Seems like the verbiage to me was "The Internet"
01:39 <@Dagmar> ...so it will likely include quantum entangled networks.
01:41 < dfused> not really. just series of tubes...nothing more
01:42 <@Dagmar> Full of kittens entangled in quantum yarn
01:42 < dfused> awwwwww
01:42 < dfused> schrodinger would be proud
01:42 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: You know what iw would be really nice if AS studio did?  KEPT MY DAMN IDS when I clone elements.
01:42 < dfused> that indecisive bastar
01:42 < dfused> d
01:44 < Synx|hm> son of a bitch, ive been trying to hunt down Penn & Teller Bullshit! older seasons for a long while, they are all on fucking prime for free
01:44 < dfused> nice
01:45 < dfused> they also have invader zim as well as pinky and the brain
01:45 < Synx|hm> oh man love me some zim
01:45 < dfused> OBEY THE FIST!
01:46 < Synx|hm> knew (not friends) one of the animators when i lived in LA
01:46 < Synx|hm> that show was up there with origionaly ren and stimpy for me
01:46 < dfused> wish I knew vasquez
01:49 < Synx|hm> reminds me i need to rip my ren and stimpy collection to the plex server
01:49 < Synx|hm> hours of entertainment for the kiddo
01:49 <@RangerZ> new?
01:49 <@RangerZ> or old?
01:49 < Synx|hm> first 2.5 seasons if i recall
01:49 < Synx|hm> dvd's are all boxed up at the moment since the move though
01:50 <@RangerZ> I _really_ need to work on the android intent/content provider based media server
01:50 <@RangerZ> I think it would be really nice
01:50 < Synx|hm> actually its seasons 1/2 and another for 3 and a half-ish
01:51 < dfused> wow.  go to weather.com and clicked on "Monthly" and it opens weather underground. ...hah
01:53 < Synx|hm> did weather.com but wunderground?
01:53 <@RangerZ> they just said "fuck it, we're not going to do it"
01:53 < Synx|hm> they've been linked together for a while now
01:53 <@RangerZ> that reminds me of the troll/hack idea I had about Fox news
01:53 < dfused> soooo... email ec council support stating that I've tried repeatedly resetting my password and yet I cannot login to my account.   get reply of "Do yuo want me to reset your password?"
01:53 <@RangerZ> leave the home page up , but direct everyone to CNN/MSNBC article on the same topic when they click a link
01:54 <@RangerZ> dfused: at least you know it isn't automated
01:54 <@RangerZ> and there is one tired as fuck tech working on your problem
01:54 <@RangerZ> lol
01:54 < dfused> yeah..some jackass named Cherylann Vanderhide
01:55 < dfused> their site has always beena piece of shit.
01:55 < dfused> for years now...
01:57 < dfused> I'm not bitter or anything.
02:01 <@Dagmar> Damn I am really tired of fucking with this layout
02:01 <@Dagmar> This stuff makes so little sense
02:03 < Synx|hm> hole lee shit
02:03 < Synx|hm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzdwRUb39A
02:03 < PigBot`> Title: Trust Fall Fail - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:03 < Synx|hm> "shes fine"
02:17 <@Dagmar> They tried to do trust falls at Deloitte & Touche.
02:17 <@Dagmar> We just stared at the lady.
02:18 <@Dagmar> "Apparently you are unaware of which department you're dealing with today."
02:18 <@Dagmar> "If we operate in an environment of trust, we have failed at our jobs."
02:18 <@Dagmar> :)
02:19 < dfused> heh
02:19 < dfused> trust but verify
02:21 <@Dagmar> Truth.  our motto was "trust no one"
02:21 < dfused> thats my preference
02:21 < dfused> they're all out to get me and you cant prove otherwise dammit...now stop making fun of my hat
02:32 <@Dagmar> Well, what it would have amounted to was one guy falling over while two guys say "Math"
02:33 <@Dagmar> JESUS finally I get the layout fixed
02:34 <@Dagmar> Oh and look
02:34 <@Dagmar> Once again, all the snow MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS as it approaches Nashville
02:42 < Synx|hm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzdwRUb39A
02:42 < PigBot`> Title: Trust Fall Fail - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:42 < Synx|hm> oh man
02:42 < Synx|hm> damn it
02:42 < Synx|hm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byo4zPdC0gU
02:42 < PigBot`> Title: Tinkerbell Jihad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:43 < Synx|hm> so this is a bit funny
02:43 < Synx|hm> few weeks back i was on an engagment (which often involve webex) so im listen to this idiot ramble on this conf call and im also in a webex with him
02:44 < Synx|hm> i grab youtube link to the video from billy madison "at no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is no dumber for having listened to it..."
02:45 < Synx|hm> i put that in my clipboard and sent it off to my coworkers also on said call
02:45 < Synx|hm> about 5min later i realized it was still in my buffer and because of webex also in this idiots buffer
02:48 <@Dagmar> aestetix: A little something for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Dyqas6Sm8
03:26 < RangerZ1> so... I'm not trolling... but apparently Asenio Hall had a show again on CBS
03:26 < RangerZ1> I literally had no idea...
03:26 < Synx|hm> ha
03:26 < Synx|hm> his smug face has been back a while
03:26 < RangerZ1> and gone
03:26 < RangerZ1> cancelled after 1 season
03:26 < RangerZ1> lol
03:26 <@Bahhumbug> Who woulda thunk it?
03:26 < Synx|hm> he has such a smug smile it makes me want to punch children
03:26 < Synx|hm> oh shit
03:27 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: you coming to friday's meeting?
03:27 <@Bahhumbug> I'm shocked it lasted a full season.
03:27 < Synx|hm> didsn't know it was gone
03:27 < Synx|hm> RangerZ1: bummer no :( going to a concert at ryman with the wife
03:27 < RangerZ1> I wouldn't be above printing his face out on a 9x11 photo paper...
03:27 < RangerZ1> and handing it to crazypants
03:27 < RangerZ1> lol
03:28 < Synx|hm> though i could try and convince the wife to hit the meeting up before?
03:28 < RangerZ1> sure
03:28 < RangerZ1> because it'll probably be a better show ;)
03:28 < RangerZ1> and first order of business is voting on new oversight board
03:29 < RangerZ1> and we need as many non-stupid people voting as possible
03:29 < Synx|hm> where and what time is it/
03:29 < RangerZ1> 6pm JJs
03:29 < Synx|hm> im too lazy to google or open mag
03:29 < RangerZ1> its only been that way like 5 years+
03:29 < Synx|hm> k let me see if i can convince the wife to show up with me otherwise the answering will be a resounding no
03:29 < Synx|hm> ive only ever been to Atl
03:29 < RangerZ1> ahhh
03:29 < Synx|hm> and that was many many years back
03:30 < Synx|hm> like 15 years
03:30 < RangerZ1> you just want to visit google-fiber cities
03:30 < Synx|hm> haha
03:30 < RangerZ1> next is austin
03:30 < Synx|hm> i lived in san antonio for 2 years
03:30 < RangerZ1> then after that... palo alto...
03:30 < Synx|hm> never lived in nor-cali
03:31 < RangerZ1> ohh I was thinking of provo
03:32 < Synx|hm> how long are the meetings?
03:32 < Synx|hm> we are going to see Umphrey's McGee at Ryman at 8
03:33 < Synx|hm> tickets still available btw
03:33 < Synx|hm> or so ticketmaster says
03:33 < RangerZ1> I won't say that I had to google them
03:34 < Synx|hm> not a big deal they are a little known jam band, in the jam band scene they are huge but unless you are into that specifcally nobody would know of them
03:35 < Synx|hm> son of a bitch, Gov't Mule is also coming to Ryman but on March 5th when im out of town
03:36 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: don't worry, he'll be back at the state house every night around 9:15
03:36 < Synx|hm> though i did land tickets to Guster next week, and Decemberists in Apr
03:37 < Synx|hm> hoyl shit Weird Al is playing Ryman in May
03:37 < RangerZ1> yeah
03:38 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7mCEyAaPlA oh good...
03:38 < PigBot`> Title: Stargate Remake Hires Writers - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:38 < RangerZ1> because THAT is what we need...
03:39 < Synx|hm> ha
03:39 < Synx|hm> that was a damn good movie
03:39 < RangerZ1> watch it... mentions a Trilogy
03:39 < Synx|hm> miss me some kurt russel
03:39 < Synx|hm> ya i saw that
03:40 < RangerZ1> yeah.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1628841/
03:40 < PigBot`> Title: Independence Day 2 (2016) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
03:40 < RangerZ1> and THAT too
03:40 < Synx|hm> "you go, we go" love me some kurt russel ala back draft
03:40 < RangerZ1> they are remaking Escape from New York
03:40 < RangerZ1> WITH ... Kurt Russel
03:42 < Synx|hm> so if i end up at JJs on friday... do i have to wear some sort of special hat or something so that you know that i know that i know that we know that you know that i am a part of se2600?
03:42 < RangerZ1> no
03:42 < RangerZ1> we stick out like a sore thumb
03:42 < Synx|hm> haha
03:42 < RangerZ1> the rest is hipster coffee drinkers
03:43 < Synx|hm> i wish i had been more involved in meetings when i lived in Atl, i only went to a hand full
03:43 < Synx|hm> hence how i ended up here
03:43 < RangerZ1> huh?
03:43 < RangerZ1> did they run you out of ATL?
03:43 < Synx|hm> never went to a meeting in la
03:43 < RangerZ1> did you insult coca cola?
03:43 < Synx|hm> ha
03:44 < RangerZ1> ohh good... Tango & Cash 2, Backdraft 2
03:44 < RangerZ1> both for 2017
03:44 < Synx|hm> what i mean is that i just wish i had attened more, i moved out of Atl back to los agneles and then on to military from there
03:44 < Synx|hm> holy shit backdraft 2 you shitting me?
03:44 < Synx|hm> they should remake turner and hooch while they are at it
03:45 < RangerZ1> i'm fucking with ya
03:45 < RangerZ1> just went down this list... lolhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000621/
03:45 < PigBot`> Title: Kurt Russell - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
03:45 < Synx|hm> its late you should know im not in my right mind and easily gullible
03:46 < RangerZ1> https://fiber.google.com/cities/nashville/home/
03:46 < PigBot`> Title: Nashville, Fiber is coming – Google Fiber (at fiber.google.com)
03:46 < RangerZ1> ohhh shit...
03:46 < RangerZ1> I didn't even realize...
03:46 < Synx|hm> ha
03:46 < RangerZ1> they put the AT&T building front and center
03:46 < RangerZ1> hehe
03:46 < Synx|hm> gotta get the NSA on the link first
03:47 < RangerZ1> I just host a private TOR exit node for corydon and aestetix
03:47 < Synx|hm> get nashvilles room 641a up and running before they move on to anyone else
03:47 < RangerZ1> that way the NSA isn't sure wtf my viewing habits mean
03:47 < Synx|hm> of anybody in the world to host a targeted exit node for, id suggest aestetix is probably the worst
03:47 < Synx|hm> hahaha
03:48 < RangerZ1> https://www.google.com/about/careers/search#!t=jo&jid=96425001&
03:48 < PigBot`> Title: Search - Google Careers (at www.google.com)
03:48 < RangerZ1> awww NOC SHIFT LEAD
03:48 < RangerZ1> for nashville
03:48 < RangerZ1> position is in MountainView ;)
03:49 <@Dagmar> That's just silly
03:49 < Synx|hm> i doubt there will be any lead positions for their roll out that are based here
03:49 <@Dagmar> I guess they've already decided there's no one but ignorant rednecks here so they might as well not bother with anyone local
03:50 < RangerZ1> noo... your fucking Google+ scared them off
03:50 < RangerZ1> "fuck these people"
03:50 < Synx|hm> i once asked if people on a massive (likely one of the largest) car forums for a reference to google for a job, people ridiculed me for even asking
03:51 < RangerZ1> "He's the most qualified person without a job... " .... " but he scares us..."
03:52 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: yeah.... no....
03:54 < Synx|hm> so... since in actually working at the moment, i watch these customers on a daily basis wrangle in Avaya, and Cisco gear to do what they want and its 100% of the time a complete cluster
03:54 < Synx|hm> they pay so much money for this shit, why does Digium not own this sector
03:55 < RangerZ1> because they don't have the lobbying firm that cisco does
03:55 < RangerZ1> "no one ever got fired for buying _____
03:55 < RangerZ1> IBM|CISCO|ETC....."
03:56 < Synx|hm> i get that but if they could even shot proof of concept and ability to handel capacity that cisco and avaya do holy shit they be one of the big boys tomorrow
03:56 < Synx|hm> ya i get that
03:56 < Synx|hm> lack of sleep and typing are getting to me
03:56 < RangerZ1> you know what you need
03:57 < Synx|hm> booze?
03:57 < RangerZ1> Weird Al Tickets in Nashville
03:57 < Synx|hm> haha
03:58 < RangerZ1> and to accidently buy an extra
03:58 < RangerZ1> that you give to me ;)
04:00 < Synx|hm> you know im not even sure id enjoy a weird al show, i mean i guess i think i would, but its not really music that i enjoy for the music factor just more for the "i went to a wierd al show" factor
04:00 < Synx|hm> am i wrong?
04:00 < RangerZ1> apparently he's better in concert
04:01 < RangerZ1> very very good stage presence
04:01 < RangerZ1> haven't seen him myself
04:01 < RangerZ1> but thats what I hear
04:01 < Synx|hm> ill buy it, but i assume his stuff is so all over the place its hard to get into from a dance jive persective lol
04:01 < Synx|hm> im sure he is awesome to see though
04:01 < Synx|hm> just not sure if i could get out of my shell at a show like that
04:03 < RangerZ1> ..............(02:56:56) RangerZ1: you know what you need
04:03 < RangerZ1> ..........(02:57:13) Synx|hm: booze?
04:03 < RangerZ1> ^
04:03 < RangerZ1> lol
04:05 < Synx|hm> ha
04:06 < Synx|hm> need to go into the dr and get my liver enzymes re-checked :(
04:07 < Synx|hm> 2nd time now at two different drs ive been called after blood testing with "um we need you to come back... posible hep-c" to which i reply "is that also increased from drinking? because ya i was drinking heavly the night before that blood test"
04:07 < Synx|hm> you see the poster for umphreys mcgee at ryman?
04:08 < Synx|hm> http://ryman.com/sites/ryman.com/files/umphreysmcgee_lg.jpg
04:08 < Synx|hm> id say that speaks quite well to the experience
04:23 < Synx|hm> and boom just like that i now have every ep of penn and teller bullshit on my plex server
04:23 < Synx|hm> my life is not complete
04:25 < Synx|hm> s/not/now
04:26 < Synx|hm> now if only i could ammas the entire collection of austin city limits
04:26 < Synx|hm> i could be a god
04:39 < Synx|hm> otay going to bed good night folks
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07:40 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:44 < aestetix> Anthem got hacked.
07:53 < aestetix> sigh
07:53 < aestetix> another friend of mine is running an online fundraising campaign to try to make her rent this month
07:54 < aestetix> (which was increased while she was barely hanging on)
08:01 <@Evilpig> aestetix: is she cam whoring yet?
08:09 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDsyj5eLmo
08:09 < PigBot`> Title: Bankrupt By Beanies - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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08:39 <@Evilpig> bah.  found a bug with plex
08:39 <@Evilpig> Feb 05, 2015 08:02:44 [0x7f92e323b700] ERROR - Couldn't accept new SSL connection: Too many open files
08:39 <@Evilpig> rolled the server log file over five times in the last 12 hours with nothing but that
08:40 <@Dolemite> heh, how many is too many?
08:41 <@Dolemite> I began the 3.5 day process of restoring my movies from Crashplan last night
08:42 <@Dolemite> Not very happy right now with VMWare.  I was not aware that it would not recognize the PERC/S100 RAID configuration, so my plan to mirror the two 4 TB drives internally has to be modified.
08:42 <@Dolemite> I will likely buy a third 4 TB drive and put two of them in my external RAID array once I get the replacement power supply
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08:43 <@Dolemite> Then just use the internal 4 TB drive for VMs, snapshots, and stuff I don't care about losing...  and use the 4 TB external for the movies/tv/document storage
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09:36 <@Mirage> Synx|awy: I haven't seen him in quite a few years, but Weird Al used to put on an awesome show complete with costume changes for the various songs.
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10:08 < aestetix> Awww. I got invited to speak at Dragoncon this year. I feel bad for turning the request down.
10:08 < aestetix> (seeing as I will be in Berlin)
10:10 < aestetix> Maybe Bahhumbug can fill in for me as a speaker.
10:11 < aestetix> Unrelated
10:11 < aestetix> how the fuck does S3 charge so little for storage
10:22 < RangerZ1> they charge for transfer
10:22 < RangerZ1> AFAIK
10:26 < aestetix> ahh
10:27 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: How about you stop hilighting me as part of your childish trolling?
10:36 < aestetix> ok I have a stupid DNS question
10:36 < aestetix> If I have a private DNS set up, how can I make it forward requests to another DNS server if the record isn't found?
10:37 < aestetix> forwarders are not working, maybe I just have it set up wrong
10:39 < aestetix> I guess I could just set up "." as a zone
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10:49 < aestetix> ok fixed it
10:54 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PMuQ9mIXuc HAHAHA
10:54 < PigBot`> Title: Man Surgically Alters Face to Resemble Red Skull - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:55 <@Bahhumbug> http://i.imgur.com/iNaWvB8.jpg
10:55 <@RangerZ> I feel bad for laughing... b/c obviously he has mental issues
10:56 <@RangerZ> Bahhumbug: ++
10:56 <@RangerZ> 1 free Internet for him today
11:13 < aestetix> hahaha
11:14 < aestetix> I left my old gig and started my new one on monday
11:14 < aestetix> the system has had downtime every day since i left
11:14 < aestetix> it's kind of astonishing
11:14 < aestetix> (because I'm no logner there to put in quick fixes so the system doesn't die)
11:21 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Saved this one just for you last night: http://www.vox.com/2015/1/29/7929791/measles-outbreak-2014
11:46  * aestetix is really enjoying this morning
12:08 <@RangerZ> ohh I believe it
12:08 < Synx|awy> so tired
12:08 -!- Synx|awy is now known as Synx|hm
12:09 <@RangerZ> I think we should tell his old gig that they have enough proof with that to sue aestetix
12:09 <@RangerZ> for him tampering with the system before he left ;)
12:09 < Synx|hm> so somebody tell me what to do with my galaxy note 2, upgrade to note 4 on sprint for $250 + 2 year contract, re-image it and hope it doesn't slow down, buy something else from sprint or perhaps even used off ebay
12:10 < Synx|hm> or toss it in the trash and never have a cell phone again?
12:10 < aestetix> lol
12:11 <@oddball> Well, this being #se2600, I'd say the advice will be "buy the new shiny!"
12:12 < Synx|hm> i am just finding myself at a point in life where new shiny doesn't really net me anything except about 10min of excitement followed by more bills
12:12 < Synx|hm> its a phone, i place phone calls
12:12 < Synx|hm> maybe its time to go feature phone
12:13 < Synx|hm> jitter bug
12:13 <@oddball> heh
12:17 < Synx|hm> nexus6?
12:18 <@opticron> I've gone the opposite direction
12:18 <@opticron> I don't make calls anymore
12:19 < Synx|hm> ha love it
12:19 < Synx|hm> i hate calling people anyways
12:19 <@Evilpig> generally I say look at the cost of replacing sprint
12:19 <@opticron> it's just a small very capable internet terminal that happens to be able to support a voice path
12:19 <@Evilpig> but i keep hitting those places where it says I have full service but there's no data and i'm pissed
12:19 <@opticron> yeah...I see those
12:20 <@Mirage> Synx|hm: I don't recall ever calling anyone "anyways"...i've used several explitives in reference to Evilpig, though
12:20 <@Evilpig> i'm contemplating verizon now
12:20 < Synx|hm> ya i need to look at our plan on sprint anyways and see if its really saving us any money
12:20 < Synx|hm> how's tmobile here in nashville?
12:20 < Synx|hm> i loved them back when i lived in socali
12:20 <@Evilpig> isn't it sprint?  heh
12:20  * opticron <3 T-mobile in huntsville
12:20 <@opticron> they keep expanding the LTE outside the city
12:21 < Synx|hm> they actually deploying LTE now or is it still HSPA+?
12:21 <@opticron> lots of LTE
12:21 <@opticron> they're not deploying HSPA+ anymore afaict
12:21 <@opticron> when I drop off LTE going south, it goes straight to EDGE
12:22 < Synx|hm> oh jesus
12:22 < Synx|hm> but it cant be any slower than sprints data network lol
12:23 < Synx|hm> past two years my company has been paying my sprint bill but at $150 for two lines unlimited data and 1500 min i think we are getting ripped off
12:24 < Synx|hm> and thats with a corp discount
12:24 < Synx|hm> is tmobile doing VoLTE?
12:26 < Synx|hm> oh shit tmobile has 2 lines with unlimited data for $100 a month
12:27 < Synx|hm> and they will pay my ETF on sprint if i give me both our current phones
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12:31 < Synx|hm> somebody talk me out of tmobile
12:31 < Synx|hm> i cant take my sprint phones to them because of non sim right?
12:32 < Synx|hm> so id have to out of pocket two new (or used) phones thats a huge cost
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12:34 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: i wouldn't invest a lot into phones right now until FCC releases new rules
12:35 < Synx|hm> ya what were you saying about that last night?
12:35 < RangerZ1> the new FCC rules apply to wire-LESS too
12:35 < RangerZ1> so the carriers are going to be dicks about it
12:35 < RangerZ1> tmobile/sprint happen to be the two who were least-against it
12:35 < RangerZ1> so we'll see
12:36 < Synx|hm> is this the title2 stuff or something else?
12:36 < Synx|hm> i guess i should at least call sprint and threaten to leave see what they do
12:37 < Synx|hm> nm reading the wired article now
12:40  * Evilpig is not a happy camper
12:42 < aestetix> new FCC rules?
12:42 < aestetix> have they been approved?
12:42 <@Evilpig> creditor calling
12:43 <@Evilpig> not one of mine, either
12:43 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: You can always go with a prepaid provider.
12:44 < _NSAKEY> Net10 = $75 a month for 2 lines, unlimited calls and data.
12:44 < _NSAKEY> But the data rate drops from 4g to 3g after the first 2.5GB or so.
12:45 < aestetix> http://www.vox.com/2015/2/5/7978823/congress-secrets
12:46 < Synx|hm> unlimited data is a joke if its on sprints backbone
12:47 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: If you select the phone carefully, you choose the network.
12:47 < Synx|hm> 4g is workable not great but workable but you drop to sprints 3g network and kiss any chance of data goodbye
12:47 < Synx|hm> oh interesting
12:47 < _NSAKEY> Net10's CDMA phones that use sprint tend to be shit.
12:48 < _NSAKEY> You have to look for fine print on the box to determine the network, but the prepaid providers just resell access to other people's towers.
12:49 < _NSAKEY> That being said, if you just grab a random phone, you're probably most likely to end up with AT&T, then Verizon.
12:50 < _NSAKEY> Another fun fact with prepaid phones is how you can put any information down that you want, and it doesn't matter.
12:50 < _NSAKEY> The only thing that semi-matters is the zip code, and that's only used to determine your phone number.
12:50 <@oddball> You mean run out and buy a burner?
12:50 < _NSAKEY> The phone could be registered to Donald Duck, and Carlos Slim won't care as long as he gets his money.
12:50 < _NSAKEY> Or to no one at all. That's how I do it.
12:50 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Exactly.
12:51 < _NSAKEY> I refuse to be chained to a contract.
12:51 < Synx|hm> on that note i picked up a $10 android phone at kroger over xmas, paid with my credit card and assume when i got home i could just give it to the kid to play with
12:51 < _NSAKEY> You can also get bring your own device cards for Net10 that are around $65 and come with 1 month of service at that price.
12:52 < Synx|hm> what ever they did at the checkout process they actived the fucking phone
12:52 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, all you'd have to do is buy a top up card at this point, and the kid could use the phone to make calls/do data that isn't wifi.
12:52 < _NSAKEY> They activate them at the register, even if you pay cash.
12:53 < Synx|hm> which is exactly what i did not want ha
12:53 <@oddball> Because how many people would buy a phone and not want it activated?
12:54 < Synx|hm> i would
12:54 < _NSAKEY> But why?
12:54 < _NSAKEY> Why does it matter if it's activated or not?
12:54 < Synx|hm> for $10, my kid loves walkign around the house pretending to talk and swiping on the android phone
12:54 < _NSAKEY> If you don't want it to be activated, then your only option is to steal it.
12:54 < Synx|hm> _NSAKEY: i guess it doesn't because i forgot all phone can make 911 calls
12:54 < Synx|hm> want i want to keep him from doing is dialing people and or 911
12:55 < _NSAKEY> There's nothing you can do about 911, but you can just... never buy a card and the kid won't be able to make non-911 calls.
12:55 < _NSAKEY> ... Unless your kid figures out how to VoIP with it.
12:55 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Or buy used.
12:56 <@oddball> Synx|hm: Do they care if it's on?
12:56 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'm talking about with the phone he already got.
12:57 < Synx|hm> hes 2 i dont think he cares about anything
12:57 < aestetix> oh jesus
12:57 < Synx|hm> but i dont want him having a 20min conversation with the 911 dispatcher in jibberish
12:57 < aestetix> Evilpig: you got a colections call about se2600?
12:57 <@Evilpig> correct
12:57 < _NSAKEY> Oh wow.
12:57 <@Evilpig> well nashville 2600
12:57 < Synx|hm> honestly i could just pull the battery (if it has one) and he'd be happy with that
12:57 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm: You say that about Sprint, but I've taken multiple trips to and from Florida with kids in the back seat watching separate streams of NetFlix via my Sprint PCS cell phone in hot spot mode.
12:57 <@Evilpig> for phreaknic
12:57 < aestetix> wtf
12:57 < _NSAKEY> Looks like I'm going to need 3D glasses and popcorn tomorrow after all.
12:57 < aestetix> Phreaknic didn't pay its bills?
12:58 <@Evilpig> I attempted to be polite about it and just hit that list. but ... what can ya do
12:58 <@Evilpig> aestetix: did you see that on the phreaknic list or se2600?  
12:58 < aestetix> se2600
12:58 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Isn't the first time.  I went into a tirade about it before when Skydog was running the show.
12:58 <@Evilpig> if you say phreaknic then i'm a huge dick
12:58 < aestetix> I'm not on the phreaknic list
12:58 < Synx|hm> Dolemite: thats very impressive, i will conceed their network has gotten exponentally better as of late, but keep in mind i spent the past 8 years of my life in a tiny shithole with terrible coverage
12:58 <@oddball> Synx|hm: My neice was obsessed with playing with cell phones when little.  We took an old one, yanked the battery, and told her it was hers.
12:58 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm: Sounds like a personal problem.  Just sayin'.
12:59 < aestetix> Dolemite: I don't see why paying bills is so hard.
12:59 <@Dagmar> If it's a remotely new release of Android you should be able to actually turn on the admin mode stuff, and disable the cellular antenna
12:59 < aestetix> Especially when it affects others.
12:59 <@Evilpig> my first draft of that email to the se2600 list was addressesing the dipshit in charge
12:59 < aestetix> The hotel at least requires a deposit, right?
12:59 <@Dolemite> Sprint has great coverage if you're near the interstate.  They have great coverage in metropolitan areas.  They have shitty or no coverage in the sticks.
13:00 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I would assume the hotel is paid, between the money corydon paid out and Andrew M's bailout.
13:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Did you happen to find out who the debt was for and how much it was?
13:00 <@Evilpig> yes
13:00  * oddball runs over to check his email.
13:00 <@Evilpig> of course I did
13:00 <@Evilpig> I'm waiting on the invoie now
13:00 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: then who reported it to collections
13:00 <@Evilpig> you know what it's for and to whom
13:01 <@Evilpig> this hasn't gone to collections yet. it's the company calling to collect
13:01 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: But we don't even know who is owed.
13:01 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig hasn't said yet.
13:01 <@Evilpig> granted in the past they have had billing fuckups and thought they sent invoices for months and didn't
13:01 < aestetix> Evilpig: what company
13:01 <@Dolemite> They haven't reported it to colletions, but are reaching out to all known associates since their snail mail and email attempts have not been responded to.
13:01 <@Evilpig> Dagmar knows but i'll leave that out for now
13:01 < aestetix> oh fun
13:01 <@Dagmar> No I actually don't know
13:02 < aestetix> you know
13:02 <@Dolemite> I'll be the blabber mouth
13:02 <@Dolemite> It's the t-shirt/swag vendor
13:02 < aestetix> this is a great opportunity to suggest anarchival pretend she's a lawyer
13:02 <@Dagmar> Ah
13:02 < aestetix> and then she can get arrested for practicing without a license
13:02 <@oddball> Evilpig: For the record, I didn't see your email come over the Phreaknic Google Group.
13:02 < aestetix> and no longer be an issue for you :p
13:02 <@Dolemite> oddball: That's because JonnyX moderated him
13:03 <@Evilpig> oddball: I was pretty sure it idnd't.  I asked before I fired off the second shot
13:03 <@oddball> Dolemite: I know... he was sounding like he wasn't sure if he still was or not.
13:03 <@Evilpig> but I forwarded the original to show it was sent, they can claim that was forged or whatever
13:03 <@Evilpig> fuck them I have attempted to be civil but they don't want me civil so htey have an excuse
13:03 <@Evilpig> i'm happy to oblige 
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13:04 <@oddball> Yeah... they haven't been civil since... uh... maybe January of last year?
13:04 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to go visit the horrible excuse for a cafeteria.  bbl
13:04 <@Evilpig> I still don't have the invoice, I may have to call them back.  I bet she spelled it out tumbler.com
13:05 <@oddball> heh
13:06 <@Evilpig> iirc they have two diane's at that place and I got the other one just a minute ago.  
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13:10 < Synx|hm> damn it assholes i want to know whats going on
13:10 < Synx|hm> though i was on that list
13:10 < Synx|hm> bummer
13:10 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: Prepare to get slowflooded in a PM.
13:10 <@Evilpig> logs will be available tomorrow.  heh
13:10 <@Evilpig> actually
13:10 <@Evilpig> what is that alias I set up?
13:11 < Synx|hm> haha
13:11 <@Evilpig> oh yeah!
13:11 <@Evilpig> Uploading (41.2KiB)...
13:11 <@Evilpig> http://ur1.ca/jndvq -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/182034/31598791
13:11 < PigBot`> Title: #182034 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
13:11 < Synx|hm> why are you moderated Evilpig ?
13:12 < Synx|hm> and where is johnnyx doesn't he run that ship?
13:12 <@Evilpig> they dont want me speakin
13:12 < Synx|hm> who is they?
13:12 < Synx|hm> i must know ALL the gossip
13:12 <@Evilpig> when your house of cards is built on a lie, you can't have the villian provide evidence to the contrary
13:14 <@Evilpig> headed to lunch
13:16 <@oddball> Synx|hm: They being JonnyX, Crazy Pants, et al.
13:16 < Synx|hm> shrug ill stay out of the drama
13:17 < Synx|hm> really im only here for the free beer anyways
13:18 <@oddball> Wait... you get beer?
13:18 <@oddball> Where's my beer?!
13:19 < Synx|hm> shit i wasn't susposed to tell you about that
13:19 < Synx|hm> forget i mentioned it
13:19 <@oddball> Damnit!
13:19 <@Evilpig> If you give Synx|hm beer, he'll go home with you
13:19 <@Evilpig> or give you a quick handy behind the dumpster behind jj's.  your choice
13:20 < Synx|hm> ya thats basically the normal deal, though i do have two hands so come one come all
13:21 <@Evilpig> there's snow on the ground so you're up for some skiing?
13:21 < Synx|hm> hells ya whos got the smallest car ill sit bitch
13:23 < aestetix> wow wtf
13:23 < aestetix> http://fox6now.com/2014/12/26/dustin-diamond-actor-who-played-screech-on-saved-by-the-bell-arrested-in-ozaukee-co/
13:24 < Synx|hm> dude do you reddit?
13:24 < Synx|hm> thats like way old news
13:25 < Synx|hm> hence why screech was missing on the saved by the bell reunion on late night fallon
13:25 < Synx|hm> ^ also on reddit
13:26 < aestetix> lol
13:26 < aestetix> so first the scat porn and now being arrested
13:26 < Synx|hm> oh wow scat porn that i missed
13:27 < aestetix> oh ok this is what happened to lisa turtle
13:27 < aestetix> http://www.amazon.com/True-Light-tenuation-authenticate-revelation/dp/1450243541/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399444668&sr=8-1&keywords=True+light+voorhies
13:27 < aestetix> she wrote that book
13:29 <@Evilpig> wait what?  dustin diamond was doing scat porn?
13:29 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: You have to admit, "Dustin Diamond" does sound like a porn star name.
13:30 < aestetix> Evilpig: look up "saved by the smell"
13:32 <@Evilpig> aestetix: you know i'm at work, but i'm gonna do that anyway
13:32 < aestetix> haha
13:32 < aestetix> I mean it's technicaly scat. It's a porn involving Screech where he gives a girl a dirty sanchez
13:33 <@Dolemite> *burp*
13:34 <@Evilpig> you say scat I'm thinking way worse than just a dirty sanchez
13:35 < aestetix> wait *just* a dirty sanchez
13:35 < aestetix> has anyone given you a dirty sanchez?
13:35 <@Evilpig> nope
13:35 <@Dagmar> Goddamnit
13:35 <@Evilpig> someone comes at me with a shit covered finger it's nto gonna be good for them
13:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: sorry to ruin your fantasy
13:35 <@Dagmar> No fuckwit
13:36 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/ffspeople.png
13:36 <@Dagmar> I was goign to put that on the Ingress map today, and all I needed was for people to _not_ throw any more idiotic random links on the map
13:36 <@Dagmar> Sure enough, one of our most prolific players fuckin blocks me this morning
13:36 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: holy shit nice domain there, was on hover the other day thinking what i could do with a .ninja, but im more interested in .aids but they are so damn expensive
13:37 <@Dagmar> Synx|hm: It's a free dns record
13:37 < Synx|hm> oh
13:37 <@Dagmar> Fucking wildly more MU than we needed to win the entire checkpoint
13:37 <@Dagmar> er septicycle
13:37 < Synx|hm> anybody notice google is now doing dynamic dns in gapps
13:38 <@Dagmar> That would have been five layers deep
13:38 <@Dagmar> 1/3 of is area I've fielded before that was 8.8kMU
13:39 < Synx|hm> you know i considered becoming a tucows domain resaler about 15 years ago
13:39 < Synx|hm> should have fucking done it
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13:46 < Synx|hm> how does geekbeat-tv have so much f'ing money
13:47 < Synx|hm> leo on twit commented a few weeks back about their budget being so much better than twits
13:47 < Synx|hm> wtf, i thought it was just a small segment on revision3
13:50 <@NotLarry> aestetix: wft did you link?  All I get on the "look inside!" is commas.
13:51 <@oddball> I should probably eat something other than this tin of butter cookies.
13:51 < Synx|hm> ok back to carriers
13:52 < Synx|hm> is everyone stateside on the same LTE tech? (minus perhaps what ever the hell xLTE is that verizon is pushing)
13:52 <@Mirage> oddball: why? Milk + egg + flour
13:52  * oddball searches for chocolate cake.
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13:56 <@Dolemite> oddball: Good thinking.  Chocolate comes from cocoa, which is a bean.  There's sure to be some fiber in there.
13:59 <@Dagmar> LTE can mean a lot of things, so no
13:59 <@Dagmar> Sprint thinks it involves both GSM bands as well as Wi-Max
14:00 <@Dagmar> Basically, 4G/LTE is not one technology or thing, it's a bunch of different technologies.
14:00 < Synx|hm> if i understand it correctly it really shouldnt, minus freqs i guess there is what, freq division duplexing and time devision duplexing from a tech standpoint no?
14:01 <@Dagmar> No, there's what happens when a bunch of carriers overwhelm the standards body and threaten to pull out unless they basically include everything that everyone just decided was their best stuff as "4G"
14:02 <@Dolemite> Sprint hasn't tried to call Wimax 4G in over 2 years.
14:02 <@Dagmar> The LTE CDMA phones use is entirely incompatible with and separate from the LTE GSM phones use
14:03 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: That's because they stopped selling the subsidized Galaxy S2
14:03 <@Dagmar> ...and literally _only_ because of that
14:03 <@Dolemite> Your incorrect use of literally is going to figurativelly drive me insane.
14:04 <@Dolemite> figuratively
14:04 <@Dagmar> DO I LOOK LIKE I FUCKIN' CARE
14:04 <@Dagmar> ...and I *did* use the term 'literally' correctly.
14:04 <@Dolemite> You've never cared, which is why we all push your buttons
14:04 <@Dagmar> So fuck off
14:05 <@Evilpig> neat!  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manicgamer/gravity-dice/posts/1127002?ref=email
14:05 < PigBot`> Title: Gravity Dice by James Kathrein Jr Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
14:06 < Synx|hm> sprint just offered me the note 4 at $10 a month on top of my $150ish after tax bill for 2 years
14:06 < Synx|hm> so thats 240 over 2 years so basically their normal new phone new contract exceept i dont pay up front
14:07 < RangerZ> 150$ a month?
14:07 < RangerZ> for cell phone ?
14:07 < RangerZ> wtf...
14:07 < Synx|hm> no no, two lines unlimited data 1500min family plan
14:08 < Synx|hm> both android phones for the full data package
14:08 < Synx|hm> am i getting f'ed?
14:08 < RangerZ> virgin mobile has much better plans
14:08 < Synx|hm> im not buying my phones outright its a normal subsidized deal
14:08 < RangerZ> sprint phones/network
14:08 < Synx|hm> hrm
14:09 < RangerZ> http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phone-plans/data-messaging-plans/overview/
14:09 <@Dagmar> In other words, you're used to the cock shoved up your ass
14:09 < PigBot`> Title: Prepaid Cell Phone Plans | Virgin Mobile USA (at www.virginmobileusa.com)
14:09 <@Evilpig> I'm planning to look at the SG6 once they finally announce it
14:09 < RangerZ> and google is getting into the cell phone business too
14:09 < RangerZ> signed sharing agrements with tmobile/sprint and ... either verizon or at&t
14:10 < RangerZ> 3rd is 'secret' or was, or something
14:11 < RangerZ> i have the 45$/mo plan with virgin mobile, after the 1G "high speed" runs out I get capped at 120 kbps or something
14:13 < Synx|hm> so thats 45 for one, and only 1g data then down to basically unusable sprint 3g or worse 1x
14:13 < Synx|hm> so for me thats $90 a month for the both of us and if i dont take my current aging phone over i also have to factor in 600 for a new phone
14:14 < Synx|hm> i need to do the math but im not so sure thats actually cheaper than my current plan
14:17 <@Dagmar> Rest assured, it's not.
14:17 < Synx|hm> whats not the prepaid plan or my current plan
14:18 <@Dagmar> You'll also be stuck in a contract guaranteeing that provider your money for long after you'd probably have switched to Google Wireless
14:18 <@Dagmar> Anything that involves a subsidized device is _never_ in your favor
14:19 <@Evilpig> unless you were already planning on staying with that provider for that given term
14:27 < RangerZ> Dagmar: no contract with virgin mobile, thats the point
14:28 < RangerZ> also, you buy phone upfront
14:28 <@Dagmar> I was talking about the subsidized plan that was mentioned earlier
14:29 < RangerZ> ahh
14:29 <@NotLarry> http://ting.com
14:29 < PigBot`> Title: Ting - mobile that makes sense (at ting.com)
14:29 < RangerZ> ting looks good too
14:29 <@NotLarry> All the crappy cell phone service of Sprint, none of the contracts
14:30 <@NotLarry> I have 4 smart phones and a 5th phone, I pay about $60/month.
14:30 <@NotLarry> I don't use a lot of data, and you don't get the free in network minutes sprint used to offer (cell to cell).
14:34 < Synx|hm> i use quite a bit of data when i travel but ill have to check and see how much is really necessary
14:34 < Synx|hm> i have no reason to switch off sprint right now because if i do that means i HAVE to buy new phones for carrier support
14:35 < Synx|hm> so its either move to sprints $100 for 2 lines unlimited data no contract plan and keep my current phones
14:35 < Synx|hm> or stay on contract and upgrade to new phone
14:35 < Synx|hm> i am not in contract at this moment on my line but i believe my wifes line is
14:36 <@NotLarry> Synx|hm: unless you owe sprint for the phones, you bring your sprint phone to ting.
14:37 <@NotLarry> and in a couple of weeks Dagmar will be selling his S3
14:38 <@NotLarry> I actually activated  my last phone with ting before I actually paid the guy for it.  Got him to give me the esn(?) number, I checked it and registered it to my account on ting, then met him south of town in a parking lot to make the deal.  When I met him I rebooted the phone and it immediatly was active with my phone number.
14:38 <@NotLarry> No fee's to activate or drop phones.
14:38 <@NotLarry> You missplace a phone, turn another on, no charge.
14:39 <@Dagmar> lol so you heard I've been eyeing newer models
14:39 <@NotLarry> I think you can score the s4 for about $200 right now.
14:39 < RangerZ> are we talking about phones still?
14:39 <@NotLarry> Let me check...
14:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know.  I was looking at eBay last night and Craigslist a few days this week
14:40 <@Dagmar> $200 is readily doable over eBay
14:40 <@Dagmar> I don't know if I like the way the unlock swipe works on the G5
14:40 <@NotLarry> I think ting offers a recruitment benefit but not sure (and don't care:).
14:41 < Synx|hm> ya ill look at ting again, just dont like the idea of being throttle down to 3g because sprints non LTE network is a PILE OF SHIT
14:41 < Synx|hm> and yes im still talking about phones sorry i keep getting sucked into calls and away from irc so im catching up and arguing old responses
14:43 < Synx|hm> wtf did i just stumble upon... http://www.google.com/tisp/
14:43 < PigBot`> Title: Welcome to Google TiSP (at www.google.com)
14:43 <@Dagmar> A cruel, cruel joke.
14:43 < dfused> uhm...
14:44 <@Dagmar> Note the banner at the top
14:44 < aestetix> http://www.donotlink.com/framed?631838
14:44 < PigBot`> Title: Link without improving "their" search engine position | donotlink.com (at www.donotlink.com)
14:44 < aestetix> uhh
14:45 <@Dagmar> Luckily for everyone else, he doesn't look a bit like Red Skull
14:45 <@Dagmar> He looks like Exhibit A in revoking someone's medical licence
14:45 < aestetix> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2939251/Comic-book-fan-implants-face-nose-CHOPPED-fulfil-dream-looking-like-Captain-America-s-enemy-Red-Skull.html?ito=video_player_click
14:45 < PigBot`> Title: Captain America fan has part of nose CHOPPED OFF to look like Red Skull | Daily Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
14:45 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah I linked that earlier
14:46 < RangerZ> i laughed... then I felt bad for laughing... b/c obviously he has mental issues
14:47 < aestetix> I would not want to be around him when he sneezes.
14:47 < aestetix> I didn't know it was possible to tattoo your eyeballs
14:48 <@Dagmar> Possible, yes.  Sensible, no
14:48 < RangerZ> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/02/05/twitter-ceo-dick-costolo-finally-admits-the-obvious-we-suck-at-dealing-with-abuse/
14:48 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter CEO Dick Costolo finally admits the obvious: Site has failed users on abuse - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
14:48 <@Dagmar> Less than $1,000 would be needed for a latex mask and contacts
14:48 < RangerZ> aestetix: its less 'tattoo' and more 'dye the internal fluid of the eyball'
14:49 < aestetix> btw https://www.tilt.com/campaigns/keep-kitty-in-the-bay/description
14:49 < RangerZ> people have been doing it in prison for a while
14:49 < RangerZ> sorry aestetix have to login
14:49 < RangerZ> so whats it about?
14:50 <@Dagmar> Someone who doesn't know how to manage their finances
14:50 < RangerZ> " Twitter has become an ideal platform for harassment, in large part because the site has done so little to combat it."
14:50 < RangerZ> I agree with the frist statement, not the 2nd part
14:50 < RangerZ> its Ideal b/c it allows people to talk easily
14:51 < RangerZ> people able to talk easily = harassment
14:51 < RangerZ> b/c -> society
14:51 < RangerZ> lol
14:55 < RangerZ> http://www.wsj.com/articles/pope-francis-to-address-congress-says-john-boehner-1423155897 HAHAHAHA
14:55 < PigBot`> Title: Pope Francis to Address Congress Sept. 24, Boehner Says - WSJ (at www.wsj.com)
14:55 < RangerZ> -that- will be a great show
14:55 < RangerZ> watching republicans NOT clap when the pope says that it is government's repsonsibility to help the poor/needy/etc
14:55 < RangerZ> b/c... that is what christ told us to do ;)
14:58 <@Dagmar> They put him off until September?
14:58 <@Dagmar> Lame
14:58 < RangerZ> he's coming to US then
14:58 <@Dagmar> Ah
14:58 <@Dagmar> I look forward to him telling people they're on a fast track to hell
14:58 < RangerZ> even washington waits for the pope's chedule, lol
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15:06 <@Mirage> so tempted to respond to the "financially responsible" email, but i don't wanna start a flamewar on the list.
15:07 <@Mirage> Instead I'll just say it here... "Pig, there's your chance for PN sponsorship."
15:07 <@Dagmar> Hahaha http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/04/colorado-pot-taxes-back-to-residents_n_6612292.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
15:07 < PigBot`> Title: Colorado May Have To Refund As Much As $30 Million In Pot Taxes (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
15:09 <@Dolemite> That's too good for someone not to post it, Mirage
15:12 <@Evilpig> Mirage: if it comes down to them saying they can't or won't pay it.  i'll start requesting donations to cover it and then i'll make sure they close the account
15:12 <@Evilpig> they being the person that is owed money
15:13 <@Dagmar> I'm just baffled about why we apparently spent so much more than we had
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15:14 <@Dagmar> I don't want to say "where did it all go?" but I'm basically thinking precisely that
15:14 <@Dolemite> Well when you allow the hotel to bully you into signing a contract that is overwhelmingly in your favor...   because you've got a hard-on for hosting your event there...   this is what you get
15:15 <@Dolemite> Er, in their favor
15:17 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: because someone was planning on 1000 people showing up and there was no other possible outcome
15:18 <@Dagmar> I know you just pulled that numebr out of your ass
15:18 <@Evilpig> I did, but how far off is it from the truth?
15:18 <@Dagmar> ...becuase if they _actually_ planned on 1,000 people showing up, then I need to go turn someone's "You have been smoking entlre too much pot." comment right back at their dumb ass.
15:19 <@Evilpig> that contract was signed on the grounds of they were going to fill those rooms, for sure
15:19 <@Evilpig> they would have no problems hitting those numbers
15:19 <@Dagmar> WHEN HAS PN EVER HAD 1000 PEOPLE?
15:20 <@Evilpig> to meet those numbers, well the numbers I saw in the proposal they'd have had to have about 300 people show up and have a room per every three people
15:20 <@Dolemite> The highest attendance we ever had was still in the 350ish range
15:21 <@Evilpig> iirc that proposal was for a 100 room block, per night
15:23 <@Dagmar> ...and considering how many rooms we had the previous year, even that was dumb.
15:23 <@Evilpig> correct
15:23 <@Evilpig> but if you werent; really involved the previous year and you made all your assumptions off someone's talk
15:24 <@Evilpig> which was crazypants negotiating with the hotel based on dru's info... you get insanity
15:24 <@Dagmar> That's a Dashcon level fuckup
15:24 <@Evilpig> but since dru didn't know any better because he as MIA all the previous year during talks with the hotel he had no grounds for what was reasonable and was rejecting the advice from anyone that did have the knowledge.
15:24 <@Evilpig> ie me or Dolemite, even corydon should have known better
15:26 <@Dolemite> Plus all of his 'experience' in Dragon*Con has never had him dealing with facilities - only with trying to assemble speakers for a single track, and pretty much having the exact sames ones for a good chunk of them year on end
15:26 <@oddball> Yeah... He seriously got it into his head that there was going to be 500+ folks this year.
15:26 <@Dolemite> So he just needed to accept help
15:26 <@Dagmar> How cops in Russia handle resisting arrest of an unarmed person http://i.imgur.com/xxg1bt7.gif
15:26 <@Evilpig> but the person that was willing to help was undermining him and out to sink the con
15:27 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: He needed to look at actual historical data
15:27 <@Dagmar> At least one person involved had that information
15:27 <@Dolemite> Yep, all of which was available for the asking
15:27 <@Dagmar> I suspect he either didn't ask Corydon or ignored him
15:27 <@Dolemite> He probably ignored Corydon just slightly less than he ignored us
15:28 <@Mirage> Sounds like an excellent sponsorship opportunity." lol
15:28 <@oddball> Asking, hell, there were a few of us yelling it at him.
15:28 <@Dagmar> I have to wonder if there's a brain tumor involved here somewhere
15:28 <@Mirage> Dolemite: did you respond as such because i said it in here, or did we just think alike?
15:29 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I copied you and acknowledge it in here, but didn't list you as the author on the list since you wanted to avoid flames
15:33 <@oddball> Ok... just saw the comment Dolemite sent to the list.  I have to admit that I laughed.
15:42 <@NotLarry> Well, coming up on two months in and I have yet to get the same answer from any two people involved in phreaknic on what exactly happened last year or what the state of the organization currently is.
15:43 <@Dagmar> The state of the organization is that we're very likely going to have to dissolve it
15:43 <@Dagmar> I am not seeing a lot of viable options at this point
15:43 <@Dolemite> Elonka is fighting that with all of her being, but hurricane Elonka may not have a choice
15:43 <@Dagmar> If they didn't get the _little_ bills taken care of there's no telling how deep in the hole the org actually is
15:44 <@oddball> NotLarry: I don't know... the story on this side of the fence is pretty uniform. :p
15:44 <@NotLarry> Ah, what is it?
15:44 <@oddball> Let's see... the folks running the org is lying to everyone else about the state of things...
15:45 <@NotLarry> Ah, I'm not lying
15:45 <@NotLarry> yet
15:45 <@oddball> They're actively excluding folks that aren't hand picked by them.
15:45 <@oddball> Sorry... I don't think of you as "one of those running things" yet.
15:46 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to head home.  Later, kids!
15:47 < Synx|hm> fucking united.net
15:47 <@oddball> They turned a con that had normal operating cost squirreled away in the bank into an org that was $6k in the hole in one year.
15:47 < Synx|hm> have fiber on the pole 1000 feet from me
15:47 < Synx|hm> will only offer wet copper dsl plan at 12Mbit
15:47 <@oddball> Oh, and tried to tell people that everything was great and that the con was a huge success.
15:50 < _NSAKEY> Hahaha. Thunderbird is warning me that Tilghman's message may be a scam.
15:51 <@oddball> It's a trap!
15:52 <@Dagmar> I'm wondering why Google Calendar finds it noteworthy to mention time incidents in the past
15:52 <@Dagmar> "Monthly on the first Friday except Fri Nov 4, 2011 or Fri Jun 6, 2014" <-- this to me does not seem to be useful or particularly relevant
15:54 < _NSAKEY> oddball: https://abigisp.com/images/its-a-trap.png
15:55 < _NSAKEY> Way to go, thunderbird.
16:02 < RangerZ> its not like it is wrong...
16:09 < aestetix> fucking ghetto music
16:30 < RangerZ> don't hate the player
16:30 < RangerZ> build a harmonic cone to direct the bass back at them
16:31 < RangerZ> (thats really difficult b/c the reason the car/windows/etc shake is that the sound wave is literally larger than the object shaking)
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16:42 <@Dagmar> There are more complex but better solutions.
16:42 <@Dagmar> ...which is precisely why i got interested in bluetooth hijacking.
16:43 <@Dagmar> Most of those poorly designed systems are also very sensitive to being handed unpleasant and potentially hostile inputs
16:43 <@Dagmar> Making someone's cones pop right out of the frame is completely posssible
16:44 <@Dagmar> You just have to hand them enough of a single wave to make them pop loose
16:44 <@Dagmar> Generating a wave file that's nothing but a pure 10Hz sine?  Easy-mode.
16:45 <@Dagmar> It seems that a whole LOT of people never actually assign a lock code to their bluetooth stereo
16:48 < RangerZ> OR have their system play something like my little pony theme song
16:48 <@Dagmar> Ding
16:49 < RangerZ> so that there is no 'criminal harm'
16:49 < RangerZ> but... ohh such sweet justice
16:49 <@Dagmar> It's not my fault if someone puts 400W of amp with 16" subs and doesn't have the sense to use an adequately powerful choke
16:49 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't design such a stereo system and then try to show it off anywhere
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17:14 <@Mirage> re: 14:45 <@NotLarry> Ah, I'm not lying
17:14 <@Mirage> NotLarry: Anyone who knows you laughed when they read this.
17:14 <@Evilpig> lol
17:15 <@Evilpig> klixa: I needed you for something earlier but I don't know what.  glad you're here now though
17:17 <@klixa> Evilpig: um, ok.
17:17 <@Dagmar> yay my liquid money arrived
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17:30 <@Dagmar> NotLarry may be getting his wish sooner than I expected
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17:38 < RangerZ> Dagmar: which one? b/c he has a LOT of wishes... and most of don't want to even think about the vast majority of them....
17:43 <@Dagmar> True, true
18:01 < RangerZ> http://www.pcgamer.com/opengl-successor-to-be-unveiled-at-gdc-session/
18:01 < PigBot`> Title: OpenGL successor to be unveiled at GDC session - PC Gamer (at www.pcgamer.com)
18:01 < RangerZ> THIS could be really nice
18:01 < RangerZ> next gen openGL
18:24  * benthemeek reads scrollback
18:24 <@benthemeek> It didnt come out how bad the hotel thing was until later after the con guys. Even dink didnt act like it was a big deal as we were packing up
18:24 <@benthemeek> I had no reason to think there was issues
18:24 <@benthemeek> seriously
18:25 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: have you heard from tilghman yet?
18:26 < RangerZ> benthemeek: *puts hand on your shoulder and shakes my head* tsk'ing 3x...
18:27 < RangerZ> its not that it -IS- and issue, its that it -CAN BE- an issue
18:28 < RangerZ> b/c no offense to Dink, but without a contract, he isn't actually owed anything...
18:28 < RangerZ> OR he's owed it 'all' right now
18:28 < RangerZ> which is why written legal documentation is such a key thing
18:28 < RangerZ> to -prevent- anything from happening
18:29 < RangerZ> if tilman gets hit by a bus tomorrow, and dru moves away
18:29 < RangerZ> literally no one knows what the agreements are
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18:39 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: what do you think?
18:40 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: I have no problem airing the details either.  you might want to impress upon them that fact
18:41 <@Evilpig> and if dru thought finding sponsors was hard before. being public about not paying bills will compound that shit
18:42 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: I just sent him and email along with the text and included Dru
18:42 <@benthemeek> Hopefully one of them will see it and reach out to you
18:43 <@Evilpig> everyone should remember I go from cordial and professional to asshole to we're all gonna burn pretty quickly
18:47 <@klixa> all southerners can go frpm cordial to asshole pretty quickly.... lol
18:51 <@Evilpig> heh.  i've heard from elonka but neither of the two that should be stepping up
18:52 <@benthemeek> Elonka reached out to you?
18:52 <@Evilpig> yup
18:52 <@benthemeek> Well to be fair they might now know yet or be in a place able to talk
18:52 <@Evilpig> tilghman posted to the se2600 list after I sent out my notice
18:52 <@Evilpig> they know
18:54 <@Evilpig> I had a lovely conversation with diane this afternoon as well.  she was happy to hear about my new job and that she thought it was weird she didn't hear from me at all last year
18:54 <@benthemeek> Diane?
18:54 <@benthemeek> Oh at the tshirt place?
18:55 <@benthemeek> If they had sent a paper bill who would have recieved that?
18:55 <@benthemeek> Tilghman?
18:55 <@Evilpig> it's his physical address on it
18:56 <@Evilpig> say it.  he got the bill and he either forgot to pay it, couldn't pay it, or lost it and forgot it
18:56 <@Evilpig> any way you slice it, there's a huge problem afoot
18:57 <@Dagmar> Or, because we're not panicking, the vendor is confused
18:58 <@Evilpig> with this vender it's entirely possible, however i'm gonna err on their side
18:58  * benthemeek nods
18:58 <@Evilpig> they wouldn't have reached out to me if they had had contact from any of their other attempts
18:58 <@benthemeek> well I wish I knew more to add to the conversation but I had no clue
18:58 <@Dagmar> Would this include having tried to call Tilghman?
18:58 <@Evilpig> since I saw email out of the address they had on file for tilghman today, then that email is still valid
18:58 <@benthemeek> I know we have domain regs comin gup in a bit
18:59 <@benthemeek> but not aware of any other things
18:59 <@Evilpig> he's got the phone number they have on file
19:00 <@Evilpig> NASHVILLE 2600 ORGANIZATION
19:00 <@Evilpig> 577 MICHELE DR
19:00 <@Evilpig> ANTIOCH, TN 37013−1462
19:00 <@Evilpig> Invoice Date 11/ 7/14
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19:59 <@Dagmar> OOo!  Need to go to Radio Shack and see about dealz
20:00 <@opticron> yeah, they're going down hard now
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20:34 < RangerZ1> aestetix will love his new google account ;) http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/05/twitter-confirms-new-google-firehose-deal-to-distribute-traffic-to-logged-out-users/
20:36 < RangerZ1> (not really a 'google account' yet... but I wouldn't be surprised if google pushes for that)
20:54 < RangerZ1> http://mashable.com/2015/02/05/high-there-app/ HAHAHA
20:54 < PigBot`> Title: High There is a dating app for pot smokers (at mashable.com)
20:54 < RangerZ1> no... cops won't use this at all...
20:55 < RangerZ1> hot girl pic: "bring some with you and we'll party"
20:55 < RangerZ1> "meet me at XXXX main st"
20:55 < RangerZ1> hehe
20:56 < _NSAKEY> It'll be like craigslist prostitution stings all over again, except not as funny because there won't be mugshots of ugly people.
20:57 < RangerZ1> we gotta get politicans to shut this down
20:57 < RangerZ1> b/c craigslist stings worked too well...
20:57 < RangerZ1> lol
20:58 < _NSAKEY> Well, all the whores did move to backpage.
20:58 < _NSAKEY> All those attorney generals bitching about craigslist's hookers section made them kill it.
20:58 <@Evilpig> backpage is great
20:58 <@Evilpig> love me some backpage
21:03 <@Evilpig> http://centraljersey.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/
21:03 < PigBot`> Title: central jersey - escorts - backpage.com (at centraljersey.backpage.com)
21:04 <@Dagmar> Which listing is yours?
21:14 < RangerZ1> http://jebbushforpresident.com/ HAHAHA ... this is owned by two "high tech bears"...  to promote the discussion of gay rights issues
21:14 < PigBot`> Title: Welcome! (at jebbushforpresident.com)
21:14 <@Evilpig> y'all can send me one.  I won't be too picky about it
21:16 < RangerZ1> ok... so I'd never even heard of backpage...
21:16 < RangerZ1> and I find it amusing
21:17 <@Dagmar> Well, at least they won't have to worry about accidentally getting someone elected
21:17 < RangerZ1> espeically the /BodyRubs/ section ID
21:17 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: I am somewhat horrified by their abuse of cap
21:17 <@Dagmar> er caps
21:21 <@Dagmar> So the local RadioShack here shows no sign of preparing to close up shop
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21:22 <@Evilpig> http://promotion.geekbuying.com/promotion/zidoo_x9
21:22 < PigBot`> Title: Zidoo X9 Smart TV Box: HDMI Input and 1080P Playback Record. Only $99 - GeekBuying.com (at promotion.geekbuying.com)
21:26 <@Dagmar> Wow  Such broken.  Many english.
21:27 <@Dagmar> I genuinely can't tell if it means it plays recordings, or if it's saying it can record from HDMI
21:30 <@Evilpig> both!
21:31 < RangerZ1> both
21:31 < RangerZ1> not LEGALLY
21:31 < RangerZ1> but ehh
21:31 <@Dagmar> Oh who cares about that
21:31 < RangerZ1> but...
21:32 <@Dagmar> This is a point at which I will say ethics > legality
21:32 < RangerZ1> yeah
21:32 < RangerZ1> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=hdmi%20capture%20card&Submit=ENE
21:32 < PigBot`> Title: Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com)
21:32 <@Dagmar> I will freely timeshift content without pathetic hindrances like HDCP
21:32 < RangerZ1> but there is an entire genre for these kind of devices
21:32 < RangerZ1> mostly for "streamers"
21:33 < RangerZ1> aka... people who want to make money like pewdiepie
21:33 < RangerZ1> but ehh
21:33 <@Dagmar> The difference being that a device you bought from China is far more likely to just fake an HDCP handshake
21:34 < RangerZ1> yep
21:35 < RangerZ1> but they will do 1080p @ 60 FPS
21:35 < RangerZ1> if you care about FPS capture
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21:52 <@Dagmar> Now to see if passing a value into a function works like I think it does
21:54 <@Dagmar> My worst problem right now is that I can't figure out how to put "Me love you" in as parameters
21:54 <@Dagmar> ...cuz I've typed "long time)" about 20 times now.
21:54 < RangerZ> Dagmar: umm...
21:54 <@Dagmar> *derp*
21:54 <@Dagmar> private void renderPracticalTime(RemoteViews views, /* me love you */ long time) {
21:55 < RangerZ> I -can- explain how it works
21:55 <@Dagmar> WHY WRITE CODE IF YOU CAN'T MAKE JOKES IN IT
21:55 < RangerZ> @MeLoveYou long time
21:55 < PigBot`> RangerZ: Error: "MeLoveYou" is not a valid command.
21:55 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Yes, but I like the excitement of assuming it's not going to gratuitously make a copy of the value
21:55 < RangerZ> you CAN use that annotation
21:55 < RangerZ> you just need to write an annotation for it above it ;)
21:56 <@Dagmar> The comment works better because it involves no actual moving parts, so to speak
21:56 < RangerZ> everything in java is 'pass by reference'
21:56 < RangerZ> except those tht aren't...
21:56 <@Dagmar> Yes, well, that's what I expect of a _sane_ language
21:57 <@Dagmar> I just changed the thing where I was doing that so it doesn't matter anymore
21:57 < RangerZ> so... I don't like the 'naming' of this..
21:57 < RangerZ> because it is ALWAYS "pass by value"
21:57 < RangerZ> but that "value" is the _address_ of the object
21:58 < RangerZ> hence a 'reference' to the object
21:58 <@Dagmar> Actually wait I still have one place it matters
22:06 <@Dagmar> I've almost got the cosmetic changes for the new time format working
22:13 <@oddball> Well... fuck.  My car's battery is completely dead.
22:13 <@Dagmar> Dried up?
22:14 <@oddball> No idea.  I'll try jumping it in the morning... and then tearing the rear seat out to actually get at the battery.
22:15 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I'm pretty sure the Advance Auto Parts on Donelson Pk is a 24-hour store unless things have changed or my memory is wrong.
22:15 <@oddball> Yeah... but I don't need to go anywhere until the meeting tomorrow evening.
22:16 < _NSAKEY> Oh, well that works out.
22:17 <@Dagmar> 'ja leave the lights on maybe?
22:17 <@oddball> Lights automatically shut off.
22:17 <@Dagmar> Ouch
22:18 <@oddball> Same with the cigarette lighter.  Hell, I'm pretty sure the dome light turns off after a while.
22:19 <@oddball> Pretty sure it's called "is old battery."
22:21 < RangerZ> oddball: either that or when crazypants was stalking you... her aura is like Dresden's... just kills electronics...
22:22 <@oddball> heh
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22:22 <@Dagmar> Stop that
22:22 <@Dagmar> Are you trying to give the man nightmares?
22:22 <@oddball> I guess the good news is that it waited until after my drive to Detroit and the trip to Chattanooga to die.
22:23 < RangerZ> I didn't say "Dagmar, you know she wanted your cell phone number the first time I met her"
22:23  * oddball makes sure that the sharp pointy things are still by the bed and puts a pistol on his hip.
22:23 < RangerZ> to call you ... before you showed up
22:25 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: As twitchy as the layout preview window in AS is, the rest of it is ridiculously helpful
22:25 < RangerZ> yeah
22:25 <@Dagmar> mOreso now that I've gotten the functions back to small enough the lint checker has stopped rolling it's eyes at me
22:25 < RangerZ> that is one thing they -have- done
22:26 <@Dagmar> If you put the cursor on a closing brace, it'll show a transient window at the top containing the other end if it's offscreen
22:26 <@Dagmar> OKay.  This thing _might_ compile now
22:30 <@Dagmar> Build it does... working correctly on the other hand... not so much.
22:30 <@Dagmar> Interestingly it doesn't NPE
22:30 <@Dagmar> Oh!  *facepalm*
22:30 <@Dagmar>         switch (timeMode) {
22:30 <@Dagmar>             case PRECISE:
22:30 <@Dagmar>                 renderPreciseTime(views, relevantTime);
22:30 <@Dagmar>                 break;
22:30 <@Dagmar>             case PRACTICAL:
22:30 <@Dagmar>                 break;
22:31 <@Dagmar> That one's pretty obvious.
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22:34 < RangerZ> the missing 2nd function?
22:35 <@Dagmar> You betcha!
22:36 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFt-B6i80w
22:36 < PigBot`> Title: You Wont Believe Where Anti-Vaxxers Get Their Information - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:36 < RangerZ> forum comments ~- CDC PSAs...
22:36 < RangerZ> ~=
22:38 <@Dagmar> Okay.  This is stable enough to push out now.
22:44 <@Dagmar> It's super awesome my phone just rebooted.
22:44 <@Dagmar> I don't _think_ that could really be related to my widget
22:48 <@Dagmar> I was glad to note that the system service proving the heartbeat appers to be tied to some kind of refcount for how many things have called for it
22:49 <@Dagmar> I was wondering about that, since each instantation of the three widgets calls for it to start up anew... and _issues a cancellation instruction_ when _their_ last instantation is removed.
22:50 <@Dagmar> ...but if i add widgetA, and then add two copies of WidgetB, removing widgetA issues a cancel on the alarm, but it still keeps going because of widgetB being around
22:51 <@Dagmar> it might be firing once per widget, but frankly, if someone puts twenty or thirty of these things all over their homescreens, I'm not the one with a problem.
22:55 < RangerZ> well not... 'that'... problem
22:55 < RangerZ> obviously you need to learn how to play ingress all over again
22:55 < RangerZ> since you haven't been playing enough lately ;)
22:55 < RangerZ> hehehehe
22:56 < RangerZ> uhhohh I'm in one of those moods... perhaps I should email the mailing list... b/c that seems to go over so well...
22:56 < RangerZ> Mirage: I agree with your proposal about the voting at the next meeting of the rule changes
22:58 < RangerZ> oddball: https://twitter.com/sxaTech/status/563309485432012800
22:58 < PigBot`> Title: Stewart X Addison on Twitter: "@Raspberry_Pi Ive been running the Octane javascript benchmark on Node.JS and getting ~6X faster on the 2 (and its single threaded!)" (at twitter.com)
23:06 <@oddball> RangerZ: Yeah... fuck you.
23:06 < RangerZ> lol, sorry
23:07 < RangerZ> but... good news... you wouldn't be able to buy one anyways
23:07 < RangerZ> they like to make them like amiibos, only make 5 at a time when you could sell millions
23:07 <@oddball> heh... there is that.
23:08 < RangerZ> but, if you find it lacking in your project
23:08 < RangerZ> you have an upgrade path
23:08 < RangerZ> and it'll fit exactly the same in case/etc
23:08 < RangerZ> so its not 'all' bad
23:09 <@oddball> yep
23:09 < RangerZ> 1080p video playback of mkvs will be REALLY nice if it does that well
23:09 < RangerZ> b/c XMBC on 720 on the original wasn't bad at all
23:10 < RangerZ> and I only have a class 4 SD card for the OS
23:13 <@Dagmar> Hrm... Another phone reboot.
23:13 <@Dagmar> Man... if I've stumbled across some memory leak in Android I will *not* be happy
23:15 <@Dagmar> Goddamnit!
23:16 <@Dagmar> This should not be possible
23:16 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Actually, they made something like 100k of them before even announcing.
23:16 <@Dagmar> Wait a moment... maybe it's not my widget doing this
23:16 < _NSAKEY> And they still sold out.
23:17 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: shhh
23:17 < RangerZ> you'll make oddball feel bad
23:17 < RangerZ> actually I dunno
23:17 < _NSAKEY> Hey, I'm practically in the same boat as oddball. I ordered my bundle off Amazon and got it 2 days before the announcement leaked.
23:17 < RangerZ> I knew the made a 'fair amount'
23:17 <@Dagmar> I'm going to reboot the phone and not put a widgt on the homescreen at all
23:17 <@Dagmar> This might just be some Android weirdness.
23:18 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I've had my phone reboot randomly on me recently
23:18 < _NSAKEY> In any case, I intend on waiting at least 6 months before even entertaining the idea of ordering a new one.
23:18 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Well, it did it to me _twice_ in the last 20 minutes
23:18 < _NSAKEY> They will presumably have any uncaught raspbian bugs ironed out by then.
23:18 < RangerZ> ahh
23:18 <@Dagmar> ...so I actually clicked on the memory monitor tab and see the allocated memory slowly climbing
23:18 < RangerZ> thats more than I've seen, mine was like twice in a two week period
23:18 <@Dagmar> ...but that might be filesystem caching or something for all I know
23:21 <@Dagmar> I am not doing anything particularly fancy with structures of any sort
23:21 <@Dagmar> About the fanciest thing i'm doing is instead of handling all the damn digits in a switch statement, I'm loading the resource ids into an array, and drawing them from that
23:22 <@Dagmar> ...but those should be able to be allocated and destroyed every time those functions are called
23:22 < RangerZ> my friend works for https://tiny-circuits.com/
23:22 < PigBot`> Title: TinyCircuits - Maker of Tiny, Open Source Circuits. Akron, Ohio. (at tiny-circuits.com)
23:22 < RangerZ> I'm going to see if I can get some samples to play with... and maybe give out at nashville2600 meeting or something
23:24 < RangerZ> he -hand solders- the fucking things... (or was at one point)
23:26 < RangerZ> https://tiny-circuits.com/tiny-lily-mini-starter-kit.html that kit is ...super... tiny
23:26 < PigBot`> Title: TinyLily Mini Starter Kit (at tiny-circuits.com)
23:26 < RangerZ> would be viable for modding phones... or something
23:28 <@Dagmar> I may be writing about a million debug statements here in a moment
23:29 <@Dagmar> Hmm... okay perhaps not
23:29 <@Dagmar> Sure, memory is climbing, but clicking the "Initiate GC" button dropped it back to 2.5mb
23:34 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apvo5BDRPLM ...
23:34 < PigBot`> Title: Man Has Sexual Relationship With A Dolphin - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:42 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: There used to be websites about that very sort of thing.
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