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00:12 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Do you mean the first of the newer Star Wars movies?
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00:21 < _NSAKEY> Some of you might have a use for this. I don't know. https://github.com/NSAKEY/happy-dance
00:21 < PigBot`> Title: NSAKEY/happy-dance · GitHub (at github.com)
00:27 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: yeah
00:30 < RangerZ1> believe me, i wish I could find the movie, and just link to that clip
00:30 < RangerZ1> he just sits there with a 'look' on his face after the movie for a good while...
00:30 < RangerZ1> and everyone else in the room is like... um...
00:30 < RangerZ1> except like 2 people, who are overjoyed
00:30 < RangerZ1> (I'm guessing marketing)
00:53 <@Dagmar> lol
00:53 <@Dagmar> Okay, so maybe I'm a little creepy
00:54 < RangerZ1> 'a little' ?
00:54 <@Dagmar> https://plus.google.com/111871911020322579096/posts/iPZLvh6nUoz
00:54 <@Dagmar> Niantic wanted pictures of agents with the Tranlator badge showing to get a virus code
00:57 <@Dagmar> Most of those people just posted a screenshot, but since the post telling us about this had a picture of an agent with his phone and he was all happy and smiling... Heheheh
01:58 < RangerZ1> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2015/02/02/power-ranger-actor-arrested/22729399/
01:58 < PigBot`> Title: 'Power Rangers' actor arrested in fatal sword attack (at www.usatoday.com)
01:58 < RangerZ1> red ranger...no...
01:58 < RangerZ1> hehe
02:05 < RangerZ1> http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/693259main_jsc2012e219094_big.jpg
02:05 < RangerZ1> something american football worth looking at today
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02:13 < RangerZ1> oh god... I just had to explain the traceroute where it has the opening text from starwars to a CS student...
02:13 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2ufu4g/tifu_by_not_using_lube/
02:13 < PigBot`> Title: TIFU by not using lube. : tifu (at www.reddit.com)
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04:27 < _NSAKEY> ... And let today mark the last time I ever said "YOLO" and clicked an aestetix link.
04:45 < aestetix> what
05:21 < _NSAKEY> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/
05:21 < PigBot`> Title: Raspberry Pi 2 on sale now at $35 | Raspberry Pi (at www.raspberrypi.org)
05:22 < _NSAKEY> This is actually sort of infuriating, because I ordered a replacement to my dead pi and just got it Friday.
05:22 < _NSAKEY> Oh well.
05:24 < _NSAKEY> It will probably take months for them to make the software nicer/more stable.
05:27 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: what's your email? I can CC you on my next set of questions to Corydon in case you want to ask any.
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06:22 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA&feature=youtu.be
06:22 < PigBot`> Title: Barely Legal Pawn, feat. Bryan Cranston, Aaron Paul and Julia Louis-Dreyfus - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
06:55 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZz8MW3DSqA so this is a thing...
06:55 < PigBot`> Title: Raspberry Pi 2 Hands-On - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
06:55 < RangerZ1> I didn't even KNOW a v2 was coming out
06:56 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBU4aIYnyuI a 12min version, (might be useful) lol
06:56 < PigBot`> Title: In-Depth with the Raspberry Pi 2 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
07:02 < aestetix> I wonder how many people these days don't own a computer.
07:02 < aestetix> They just have one issued by their company
07:02 < RangerZ1> probably about 4 billion
07:03 < aestetix> ok let me rephrase
07:03 < RangerZ1> ohh you mean people in Industrialized nations
07:03 < RangerZ1> ;)
07:03 < aestetix> how many who have a computer don't own it :p
07:03 < RangerZ1> lol
07:03 < RangerZ1> I have a laptop right now from work
07:03 < RangerZ1> don't have a 'working' one otherwise
07:03 < aestetix> do you have your own computer as well?
07:03 < RangerZ1> yeah, desktop
07:03 < RangerZ1> RaPi (if that counts)
07:03 < aestetix> lol
07:04 < RangerZ1> and a v1 acer netbook(which is basically useless)
07:04 < aestetix> the point is, if someone is only at a job for a year or two.... what happens when they leave for another one?
07:04 < RangerZ1> they should have bought a computer in the meantime
07:04 < RangerZ1> lol
07:04 < RangerZ1> there is an entire ecosystem for cheap laptops for poorer people
07:04 < aestetix> yeah btu they spent all their money on $5 millkshakes
07:05 < RangerZ1> my mom got lucky and got a tiny 11" HP laptop for _cheap_ ... like 400$ or something, and it would have been retail for 900/1000
07:05 < aestetix> ok wow
07:05 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2ugt41/ama_request_person_wearing_shark_costume_at_katy/
07:05 < PigBot`> Title: [AMA Request] Person Wearing Shark Costume at Katy Perry's Super Bowl Halftime Show : IAmA (at www.reddit.com)
07:06 < RangerZ1> other than not having a dedicated GPU, its a beast of a system (obviously work laptop for someone who needed CPU/mem bound software ran
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07:17 < RangerZ1> http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/2/7962179/raspberry-pi-windows-10
07:17 < RangerZ1> whoa...
07:33 < RangerZ1> will have to see how the RaPi 2 does with XMBC and 1080p video playback
07:35 < aestetix> lol my install has negative 2 billion hours left
07:35 < aestetix> and it just finished
07:36 < RangerZ1> must use the MSFT file copy logic
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07:59 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:06 < RangerZ1> well RaPi 2 is already sold out everywhere...
08:06 < RangerZ1> lol
08:06 <@Evilpig> I hadn't seen the 2 yet.  what's the change?
08:06 < RangerZ1> quad core 900 mhz, 1GB ram
08:06 <@Evilpig> I saw a weird pie the other day with no composite out only hdmi, 4 usb
08:07 < RangerZ1> everything else exactly same as B+
08:07 < RangerZ1> thats the B+
08:07 < RangerZ1> ...i think...
08:07 < RangerZ1> and arm v7 archetecture
08:07 < RangerZ1> which means _much_ better support (thats what all phones use now basically)
08:08 < RangerZ1> rapi up until now was really only v6 out there
08:08 < RangerZ1> and "a" version of win10 for free on RaPis
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08:19 < aestetix> ok yeah
08:19 < aestetix> I just ran into ANOTHER fucking osx restriction
08:20 < aestetix> airdrop doesn't let you change where you save files
08:21 <@Evilpig> OSX is beyond stupid when it comes to saving files
08:21 < aestetix> basically
08:21 < aestetix> I will be getting a new ipad because mine has a hardware issue
08:21 < aestetix> but beyond that I am never buying apple hardware again
08:24 <@Evilpig> there are some things of osx I like and other things that just make me want to pull my hair out having seen a million better ways
08:31 < aestetix> yep
08:31 < aestetix> it just works.... until it doesn't
08:32 < aestetix> wow
08:32 < aestetix> the ipad 3rd gen was announced march 7 2012
08:32 < aestetix> and discontinued october 23, 2012
08:33 <@Evilpig> didn't that have to do with the air?
08:33 < aestetix> no
08:33 < aestetix> but basically it looks like there is a 1 year life cycle between all their stuff
08:34 < RangerZ1> ummm yeah
08:34 < aestetix> which means every year they are guaranteed a certain demographic will pay at least $400 for a "new" hardware
08:34 < RangerZ1> b/c they hold a mac event every year
08:34 < RangerZ1> lol
08:34 < aestetix> RangerZ1: but the issue is they then design software that doesn't work on the older systems
08:34 < aestetix> and basically force everyone to "upgrade"
08:35 < RangerZ1> not really
08:35 <@Evilpig> my poor hp touchpad is showing its age.  I was half considering an ipad
08:35 < RangerZ1> apple _is_ pretty good with providing software upgrades for older hardware
08:35 < RangerZ1> I don't like the company, but compared to cell phone carriers...
08:35 < aestetix> RangerZ1: they provide software upgrades, but the upgrades kill the hardware
08:35 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: yes, but that new software might make that old device run so slowly that you buy a new one to make the pain stop
08:35 < aestetix> IE iOS 8 is a huge memory and CPU hog
08:36 < RangerZ1> thats just software development
08:36 < RangerZ1> lol
08:36 < RangerZ1> they run more concurrent services to "do things for you"
08:36 < RangerZ1> vista was the same beast
08:36 <@Evilpig> it's planned obsolescence
08:36 < aestetix> yes but that removes the optiom to let me do it
08:36 < aestetix> because I don't fucking want apple messing with my shit
08:36 < RangerZ1> 7 would have been too... but by then ram was cheap enough... and the kernel improvements in 7 healed a lot
08:37 < RangerZ1> then you don't want apple
08:37 < aestetix> it's the software equivalent of designing hardware with cheap plastic that breaks
08:37 < RangerZ1> lol
08:37 < RangerZ1> apple is designed for non-tinkerers
08:37 < RangerZ1> b/c woz no longer works there ;)
08:37 < aestetix> then why do so many fucking programmers use macbooks?
08:37 < aestetix> .... because they are hipsters
08:38 < RangerZ1> nope
08:38 < RangerZ1> better command line than windows
08:38 < RangerZ1> if windows has posix command line support
08:38 < aestetix> because linux has no command line
08:38 < RangerZ1> it would see MUCH better adoption
08:38 < RangerZ1> you forget 'commercial software'
08:38 < RangerZ1> adobe
08:39 < RangerZ1> etc
08:39 < RangerZ1> if you want adobe and posix or to program iOS apps...
08:39 < RangerZ1> you NEED osx
08:40 <@Evilpig> HAHAHAH I just snorted.  http://explosm.net/comics/3822/
08:40 < PigBot`> Title: Explosm.net - Home of Cyanide and Happiness (at explosm.net)
08:40 <@Evilpig> aestetix: after working on the mac a bit, it's kinda nice that I can run apache and whatnot locally
08:40 < aestetix> s/apache/nginx/
08:41 < RangerZ1> who cares
08:41 < RangerZ1> httpd ;)
08:41 < aestetix> RangerZ1: anyone who wants to run a responsive server :p
08:41 <@Evilpig> with windows getting apache to run is not easy, if you go teh vm route it's complicated and the native route just doesn't work quite the same
08:41 <@Evilpig> it's more straight forward on osx
08:41 < RangerZ1> aestetix: who cares about that, on a fucking laptop?
08:41 < aestetix> lol
08:41 < RangerZ1> lol
08:41 <@Evilpig> iterm is kinda nice
08:42 < aestetix> Evilpig: I remember in 2006 trying to get PHP working in IIS
08:42 < aestetix> god that sucked
08:44 < RangerZ1> but aestetix, thats my point
08:44 < RangerZ1> thats why I was debating OSX myself
08:44 < RangerZ1> better support for 'some' things
08:44 < RangerZ1> FMITA support for ... middle click
08:45 < RangerZ1> and other non-non-trivial things like that
08:46 < RangerZ1> (I actually haven't really used a mac since we all used 5.25" floppies)(and no... Dickie having an old retro system up and running for shits and giggles... doesn't count..._
08:47 < RangerZ1> hence why I wanted to borrow one... but ehh
08:47 < aestetix> uh
08:47 < aestetix> so apple II?
08:48 < RangerZ1> yeah, lol
08:48 < aestetix> because macintosh and performa had 3.25 floppies
08:49 < RangerZ1> in kindergarten/1st we had apple IIs in the lab
08:49 < aestetix> oregon trail?
08:50 < RangerZ1> had it, but I don't remember ever playing it much
08:51 < RangerZ1> but I went to a rich school... so we had a LOT of computers in the late 80s, early 90s, let alone 2000
08:52 < aestetix> did you have feminists as classmates?
08:52 < RangerZ1> my friend was doing a study of people she knew for a class, and asking everyone how many computers their HS had... and I said... hmm... let me think... and started counting off 1..2...3...4... and then said "like 7 computer labs" and 1~2 computers for every classroom
08:53 < RangerZ1> she just stopped in her trail and was shocked, lol
08:53 < RangerZ1> yes, but not the 'new' ones
08:53 < RangerZ1> the 'new' ones, are even looked down upon by the old ones
08:54 < aestetix> isn't everyone under 25 looked down upon by everyone over 25?
08:54 < RangerZ1> I forget which ones my mom listed off, but she said several of the feminist authors from the 60s/70s, etc  were shocked to see what the term had turned into
08:54 < RangerZ1> aestetix: not really
08:54 < aestetix> probably betty dodson among others
08:55 < RangerZ1> i forget honestly, but I think the new feminists are just taking advantage of the mediums
08:55 < RangerZ1> which reward outrage
08:55 < aestetix> like shanley
08:55 < RangerZ1> twitter/etc are NOT mechanisms for 'productive' communication
08:57 < RangerZ1> I'd like to see some statistics about her followers pre/post the weev unveil
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09:00 < aestetix> that WOULD be useful
09:01 < aestetix> oh sweet
09:02 < aestetix> apparently you can configure adblock plus to block out the "share on facebook" etc things
09:02 < RangerZ1> yep
09:03 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: they added new rewards.  https://club.nintendo.com/rewards.do;jsessionid=AFD9660003EB6A9F707761ADA88A381A
09:03 < PigBot`> Title: Rewards Catalog | Club Nintendo (at club.nintendo.com)
09:05 <@Evilpig> it isn't letting me login right now though. saying my password is wrong.  :-
09:05 <@Evilpig> :-/
09:05 < Synx|hm> is it friday yet?
09:06 <@Evilpig> yup!
09:06 < aestetix> boo almost out of modafinal
09:06 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: good news, it is friday for me
09:08 < RangerZ1> HAHA
09:08 < RangerZ1> it let ME log in as wilpig
09:08 <@Evilpig> bah!  it's down for maint now
09:08 < RangerZ1> hehehe
09:08 <@Evilpig> did that session id connect you as me?
09:08 < RangerZ1> yeah
09:08 <@Evilpig> LOL
09:08 <@Evilpig> that's hilarious
09:09 <@Evilpig> epic fail on their part if it let you do much of anything but that's hilarious otherwise
09:09 < RangerZ1> I just accidently ordered you a Super Smash Bros. 3-Poster Set v2
09:09 < aestetix> wtf
09:09 <@Evilpig> I would kill you
09:09 < RangerZ1> I just wanted to see if you could 'buy' the set too
09:09 < aestetix> hahah
09:09 <@Evilpig> they weren't kidding about adding games in
09:10 < aestetix> so this is interesting
09:10 < aestetix> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8979608
09:10 < PigBot`> Title: Get your loved ones off Facebook | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com)
09:11 < aestetix> one commenter brings up.... why DOES facebook need 60k+ servers
09:11 <@Evilpig> god damnit.  of all the 600 coin 3ds games i have them all but donkey kong and starfox
09:11 < aestetix> comparing to whatsapp
09:11 < aestetix> As per [1], in March 2014 they were handling 20B messages/day (with 600M pics, 100M videos) with just about 550 servers
09:11 < RangerZ1> https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/28665930 snr. level sys admin job in nashville
09:11 < PigBot`> Title: Worlds Largest Professional Network | LinkedIn (at www.linkedin.com)
09:13 < RangerZ1> UNIX/LINUX Systems Manager*
09:13 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: yeah, I'm down to 0 coins, but I have a few games' worth of coins to add back
09:13 < RangerZ1> but honestly its not worth it to me I think
09:13 < aestetix> I'm guessing FB has all those servers for tracking users and serving ads
09:14 < RangerZ1> FB has "cracked" mobile ads
09:14 < RangerZ1> they served like 20% of all mobile ads last year
09:15 < RangerZ1> or something silly
09:15 < RangerZ1> up from like 6% the year before
09:15 < aestetix> by cracked you mean forced ads on everyone who downloaded their apps?
09:15 < RangerZ1> (waiting for ad-block for mobile apps) lol
09:15 <@Evilpig> I know they are shutting this service down but damn... throw some more hardware at this and make it stable
09:16 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: The thing with Nintendo... is apparently every decision has to make it through committee and everyone has veto power
09:17 < aestetix> god
09:17 < RangerZ1> which is why it is so slow to change
09:17 < aestetix> that's fucking insane
09:17 <@Evilpig> https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/45265.do
09:17 < aestetix> just let myamoto do whatever he wants
09:17 < PigBot`> Title: The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask 3D Messenger Bag | Club Nintendo (at club.nintendo.com)
09:17 <@Evilpig> that's not a bad looking bag
09:17 < RangerZ1> aestetix: thats Japanese Corp. business-land
09:17 < aestetix> Evilpig: what an awful thing to say about RangerZ1's girlfriend
09:18 < RangerZ1> nah, its pretty spot on
09:18 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I'm not sure anarchival would agree
09:18 < RangerZ1> the ex 'does' live in japan now
09:18 < aestetix> jesus does everyone have a token ex?
09:18 < RangerZ1> pretty much
09:18 <@Evilpig> aestetix: you're my token ex
09:18 < aestetix> IE "it was going somewhere, then she went insane"
09:19 < RangerZ1> thankfully mine wasn't a legal-based one
09:19  * RangerZ1 happy dances
09:19 < aestetix> Evilpig: you're confusing me with NotLarry
09:19 <@Evilpig> notlarry can't be an ex if he's still around
09:19 < RangerZ1> notlarry drives up to NJ once a quarter to be with piggy
09:20 < RangerZ1> and Evilpig flies down to nashville to be at nashville 2600 meetings 3x a year
09:20 < RangerZ1> december, and twice before that
09:20 < aestetix> ok time to watch saw 3
09:20 < RangerZ1> or... he should...
09:26 < RangerZ1> http://explosm.net/show/episode/132/episode-schmepisode speaking of nintendo
09:26 < PigBot`> Title: Explosm.net - Home of Cyanide and Happiness (at explosm.net)
09:34 < RangerZ1> also aestetix is a spider
09:55 < Synx|hm> its snowing YAY
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10:15 <@oddball> bah... Naienko and I both finally get RasberryPis (mine's still in the mail), and they release a new model that's significantly more powerful.
10:15 < RangerZ1> https://jefferlydotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/luckbeintheairtonight.jpg
10:16 < RangerZ1> don't read the file name
10:16 < RangerZ1> just click it, and see if you can guess it...
10:16 < Synx|hm> damn it
10:16 < Synx|hm> i should have jumped on the edis.at coupon at the begining of jan for 35% off
10:16 < RangerZ1> oddball: that sucks
10:16 < Synx|hm> i need to upgrade my old VPS slice to one of their newer packages, but my god the cost is 3 times as much
10:17 < RangerZ1> oddball: its only 7.5x faster, and can software-decode most codecs at 1080p now
10:17 < RangerZ1> not like thats useful for you .... or anything....
10:18 <@oddball> And has twice the RAM.
10:18 < RangerZ1> and gets a free version of Windows 10
10:18 < RangerZ1> (whatever version that is... lol)
10:18 <@oddball> I'm still looking forward to playing with it, it's just... damnit.
10:18 < RangerZ1> lol, yeah
10:18 < RangerZ1> well, if you want... one good thing...
10:19 < RangerZ1> it'll use slightly less power
10:19 < RangerZ1> lol
10:19 <@oddball> Yeah, I saw that about Win10... I guess that means that MS sees it as a possible threat.
10:19 < RangerZ1> yep
10:20 < RangerZ1> 4.5 RaPi (sorry 4.5+2) sold already
10:20 < RangerZ1> 4.5m**
10:20 < RangerZ1> lol
10:20 <@Bahhumbug> Those are all pre-orders, right?
10:20 < RangerZ1> no, the previous versions included
10:20 <@oddball> I'm just hoping the fact that it's aimed at the DiY crowd, it won't have the same effect that giving Windows to netbook manufacters had.
10:21 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh, ok.  Thanks.
10:21 < RangerZ1> oddball: thats the thing, its 'not' aimed at DiY crowd , its aimed at Education
10:22 < RangerZ1> teaching kids on computers they CAN mess with
10:22 <@oddball> Ah
10:22 < RangerZ1> do education > diy
10:22 < RangerZ1> thats always been the focus for RaPi
10:22 < RangerZ1> its where it got its UK gov't funding from, etc.
10:22 <@oddball> I'm still convinced that Windows was a big part of what killed the netbook.
10:23 < RangerZ1> it was the lack of RAM the manf. put in the damn devices
10:23 < RangerZ1> plus... the CPUs they put in were way too under powered
10:23 < RangerZ1> they 'wanted' the cell phone market
10:23 <@oddball> They were convenient little machines if you were running Linux.  They were... sluggish if you were running Windows.
10:24 < RangerZ1> i think OLPC scared them silly
10:25 < RangerZ1> (also showed a market)
10:25 < RangerZ1> same as MSFT with the Pi now
10:25 <@Bahhumbug> Huge market.
10:25 <@oddball> RangerZ1: bingo.
10:25 <@Bahhumbug> OLPC penetration was quite significant for what it was.
10:25 <@oddball> The other thing that killed the netbook was that the manufacturers kept making them bigger and bigger.
10:27 <@oddball> It got to the point that you could get a "real" laptop with a much more powerful processor at the same size for roughly the same price.  A 13 or 14 inch "netbook" just doesn't make sense.
10:28 < RangerZ1> i think 9" netbook was sweet spot
10:28 <@oddball> Yeah, same here.
10:28 < RangerZ1> the 7" acer I have has just too small a screen/keyboard to really be useful
10:29 < RangerZ1> not even 720p
10:29 < RangerZ1> also 3:4 monitor on those makes much more sense
10:29 <@oddball> yep
10:32 < RangerZ1> and if you made one now... that size, AMD APU, with 8GB ram
10:32 < RangerZ1> you'd have a mini PS4
10:32 < RangerZ1> lol
10:32 < RangerZ1> but more useful/portable
10:32 < Synx|hm> what the hell are you guys talking about? free win10 with what? a raspberrypi??
10:32 < RangerZ1> yeah
10:32 < RangerZ1> RaPi dropped the news about RaPi 2 today
10:33 < Synx|hm> oh fancy!
10:33 < RangerZ1> quadcore 900mghz, 1GB ram
10:33 < RangerZ1> arm 7 cpu instruction set
10:33 < Synx|hm> ill check it out thanks, as an aside my intel NUC with i5 has been the best HTPC ever!
10:33 < RangerZ1> otherwise same as B+ model
10:33 < RangerZ1> but its not 35$
10:33 < RangerZ1> lol
10:35 < Synx|hm> neat though i totally need windows 10 to run my bbq controller
10:35 < Synx|hm> now back to finding a new VPS provider
10:35 <@oddball> RangerZ1: I was thinking that the press release said that they were going to keep the price.
10:36 < RangerZ1> they are
10:36 < RangerZ1> there are different prices for different models out there
10:36 < RangerZ1> a 20$ one, the 35$ ones
10:36 < RangerZ1> and 40$ for one with SD card IIRC
10:36 <@oddball> There's different models with the same chipset?
10:37 <@oddball> huh... didn't know that.
10:37 < RangerZ1> there is A, B and B+ and now 2
10:37 < RangerZ1> 2 is just a different SOC as B+
10:37 <@oddball> Right... which are different generations.
10:37 < RangerZ1> otherwise B+ and 2 are the exact same
10:38 <@oddball> I was thinking that they had said that the 2 was going to also be $35.
10:38 < RangerZ1> it is
10:38 < RangerZ1> err was**
10:38 <@oddball> ...I'm confused.
10:38 < RangerZ1> I see that
10:38 < RangerZ1> ohh I see
10:39 < RangerZ1> "but its not 35$" was to Synx|hm's NUC comment
10:39 <@Dagmar> Don't worry about the chipset.  Worry about the ports/connectors
10:39 <@oddball> ah... ok
10:39 < RangerZ1> 4 USB 2.0 and 1 HDMI
10:40 <@oddball> Just remember that those USB ports are apparently not quite powerful enough to run external hard drives off of without a powered hub in the middle.
10:40 < RangerZ1> ....and a partridge in a pear tree song
10:40 < RangerZ1> oddball: now they are
10:40 < RangerZ1> thats the 'other' difference, thanks for reminding me
10:40 <@Dagmar> I've got the B+ over here
10:40 <@Dagmar> The microSD port was a welcome change
10:40 <@oddball> Naienko's going to be pissed.
10:40 < RangerZ1> they give 1.2 amp
10:41 <@Dagmar> I'm not really a fan of the new way they're doing NTSC video out tho
10:41 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: Assuming you can feed the thing more than that to begin with
10:41 <@oddball> She just got a B+ with the hopes of making it an MP3 player using an external HD.
10:41 < RangerZ1> yeah
10:42 < RangerZ1> MAKE recommends you give it 2.1 amp wall wart just to power the SOC
10:42 <@oddball> Because she wants an MP3 player for her car that can hold ALL TEH MUSICS, and no one makes one larger than 32GB anymore.
10:42 <@Dagmar> Oh.  No problem.
10:43 <@Dagmar> get one with a microsd card slot
10:43 < RangerZ1> those go to 128 or 256 now
10:43 <@Dagmar> Yep.
10:43 <@Dagmar> Hell, I've got a 64Gb one in my phone
10:43 < RangerZ1> same
10:44 < RangerZ1> "how many library of congress(s) can your phone hold" ?
10:44 < RangerZ1> hehe
10:44 <@oddball> Yeah... it's just that we have a few HDs laying around collecting dust.
10:45 < RangerZ1> I hope they are SSDs
10:45 < RangerZ1> ...being in a car...
10:45 < RangerZ1> lol
10:45 <@oddball> Otherwise, she'd just go out and pick up a SSD or large capacity thumb drive.
10:45 < RangerZ1> ...ahh..
10:46 <@oddball> RangerZ1: eh, my old iPod has been riding in my car for years without issue, and it uses a standard HD.
10:46 < RangerZ1> nope, it has magic blue smoke in it
10:46 < RangerZ1> and fairy dust
10:46 < RangerZ1> and the ashes of Steve Jobs
10:46 < RangerZ1> (too soon?)
10:46 < RangerZ1> lol
10:47 <@oddball> No... that was the Creative Labs MP3 player I had.  In fact, at one point, it had too much blue smoke in it and I had to let some out.
10:47 <@oddball> Having a malfunctioning peice of electronics release blue smoke and then start *working* is... weird.
10:49 <@Dagmar> DEMONS!
10:49 <@oddball> It actually happened when I was living at the Blair House with you, Dagmar.
10:49 <@Dagmar> Okay, so probably demons.
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10:51 <@Dagmar> Easier solution: Press for help.  Begin jaw-stretching exercise becuse there's gonna be some yellin'
10:51 <@Dagmar> wrong channel
10:52 < dfused> go figue....dagmar talking about yellin ...lol
10:52 <@Dagmar> https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10933697_10152709394101943_6140345879052529569_n.jpg?oh=982fe52783b71dc0eb51f8219e9659bf&oe=55621DB2
10:52 <@Dagmar> ...because of that medium-sized bag of nope.
10:52 <@oddball> Huh... a buddy of mine was the guy that made the custom knife sheaths and gun holsters for Jurassic World.
10:53 <@oddball> Dagmar: That's when I break the gate bar... since replacing that would be cheaper.
10:54 <@oddball> Hmmm... adafruit seems to be timing out.  I'm guessing that announcement DDOS'd them.
10:54 <@oddball> oops.. .back up!
10:55 <@oddball> ...sort of
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10:56 < RangerZ1> adafruit isn't even an 'offical' reseller
10:57 < RangerZ1> official*
10:57 < Synx|hm> holy smokes my VPS slice at edis.at is 2 euros a month, no way im going to get this price anywhere else, too bad its 500GB only ack
10:57 < Synx|hm> BW that is
10:57 < RangerZ1> yeah you will
10:57 < RangerZ1> what is that site the corydon always pushes/
10:57 < RangerZ1> ?
10:58 < RangerZ1> and aestetix shut up
10:58 < dfused> hah
10:58 < Synx|hm> ha
10:58 < RangerZ1> cheapboxes?
10:58 < dfused> phrasing
10:58 < Synx|hm> they have offshore hosting?
10:58 < RangerZ1> http://lowendbox.com/
10:58 < PigBot`> Title: Low End Box - Cheap VPS Hosting Providers Listing & Reviews (at lowendbox.com)
10:59 < RangerZ1> yep, all over
10:59 < Synx|hm> hrm ill look at those, this isn't an actual provider is it, its listings for other providers to sell off slices
10:59 < Synx|hm> hrm
11:00 < RangerZ1> its a site that people list stuff on
11:00 < dfused> I"ve been dealing with digital ocean for a side project..and they havent been too bad
11:01 <@Dolemite> I really like my Digital Ocean VPS
11:01 < Synx|hm> so heres the deal, i am currently only using my VPS for VPN'ing bittorrent traffic and the occasional VPN from hotel
11:01 < dfused> ohhh
11:01 < dfused> ..n/m dig ocean then
11:02 < dfused> not sure they'd provide the bandwidth you'd need at a decent price
11:02 < Synx|hm> ya well since im only doing VPN of the traffic i'm still limited by my shitty 300GB comcast cap at the moment
11:03 < Synx|hm> is there any merrit to sweden or netherlands etc VPS slices for bittorrent these days?
11:03 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: I'll be hosting VPS here, as soon as I get google fiber...
11:03 < RangerZ1> lol
11:03 < RangerZ1> 100$/mo for business
11:03 < RangerZ1> lol
11:03 < Synx|hm> what do you think the rollout is, 2 years on that?
11:03 < RangerZ1> depends
11:03 < Synx|hm> also comcast sent me a letter last week offering a 2 year contract lol
11:04 < Synx|hm> they really want to get people signed up and on contract before fiber starts rolling out
11:04 < RangerZ1> if the FCC reclassifies as title2
11:04 < RangerZ1> 6 mo at most for the entire city
11:04 < RangerZ1> google would -instantly- get it strung up on the telephone poles
11:04 < Synx|hm> if the fcc title2's everything whats the point of google fiber, isn't it just a marketing campaign for them to get incumbants to do the right thing?
11:04 < RangerZ1> nope
11:04 < RangerZ1> state laws
11:05 < RangerZ1> state laws still allow mono/duo-opolies
11:05 < Synx|hm> only because they dont want people digging up the streets every week
11:06 < Synx|hm> with title2 that kinda resolves that no? comcasts coax/fiber network because public access?
11:06 < Synx|hm> or do i have this all wrong?
11:07 < RangerZ1> you're semi-right/semi-wrong
11:07 < RangerZ1> title 2 REALLY helps
11:08 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: DO has a _VERY_ significant drawback.  Kernel management and the fact that they are often lagging behind on kernel security updates.
11:08 < Synx|hm> Bahhumbug: im inclined to do KVM based VPS for that very reason
11:08 <@Bahhumbug> vultr is actually my go-to for VMs at this point.  They have far better global availability.
11:08 < Synx|hm> but honestly with what im actually using it for this is all pointless
11:08 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: now that I think about it... it depends on what 'cable tv' is classified as too
11:09 < RangerZ1> b/c a lot of what I'm thinking about might be cable tv related mor than internet
11:09 < RangerZ1> so /me shrugs
11:09 < Synx|hm> ya i think thats a big part of the problem, the network utilization has changed from TV to all digital packet switching so whats what
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11:10 < Synx|hm> its honestly too complex for me to really understand i have read some significant negatives to the pro title2 argument though they escape me at the moment
11:12 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: most of them say 'you wont be able to QoS'
11:12 < RangerZ1> so they say VOIP will suffer
11:13 < Synx|hm> valid concern, how the fuck do you write laws to account for QoS when title2 is so fucking old
11:18 < aestetix> Am I shallow for liking the Saw movies?
11:18 < aestetix> To be fair, I also liked Final Desination
11:19 <@Dagmar> It's for the best they stopped making thsoe after the second one
11:20 < aestetix> I saw the third one, it was interesting.
11:20 < aestetix> I guess I'll watch the fourth in a bit.
11:20 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: easy solution
11:20 < RangerZ1> don't OVER SELL the damn lines
11:20 < RangerZ1> and build more
11:21 < RangerZ1> VOIP + BT work fine together as long as they both play nicely
11:21 < Synx|hm> ha, thats assuming the companies controling this stuff are not evil
11:21 < Synx|hm> but they are
11:21 < RangerZ1> thats fine
11:21 < Synx|hm> comcast has no motivation to build out network, their customers have no choice but to use them for service, so either way they get the money, and if they dont upgrade/buildout they get more money
11:22 < RangerZ1> just wait for a congressmen to have their cam video stuttering
11:22 < RangerZ1> or their VOIP call to the grand kids
11:22 < RangerZ1> or ...mistress...
11:22 < RangerZ1> lol
11:22 < Synx|hm> they wont, ISPs put money in their pockets, and can easily also prioritize their traffic (i know im getting off the point there)
11:22 < RangerZ1> or ...mister... if she likes that thing
11:23 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: I'm working from the assumption a new constitional ammendment will be added within 8 years
11:23 < RangerZ1> b/c I believe it will be
11:23 < Synx|hm> ya
11:23 < RangerZ1> this past generation is the ONLY generation of americans who didn't ammend it
11:23 < RangerZ1> EVERY generation has added to it
11:24 < RangerZ1> and wolf-pac has gotten 3 states to pass a call for constitutional convention
11:24 < aestetix> yep
11:24 < Synx|hm> i really hope we can get this all fixed, i see the point of the city without title2 for cable right now they have to allow monopoly otherwise the rightofway would be torn up on a weekly basis for new ISPs coming to town
11:24 < RangerZ1> thats a big first step
11:24 < aestetix> what kind of amendment would you want
11:24 < RangerZ1> corp are < people
11:24 < RangerZ1> and the government has the right to limit money in campaigns
11:25 < aestetix> Well 8 years huh
11:25 < aestetix> that might be enough time for all these assholes like the Koch brothers to die
11:25 < RangerZ1> also, water/food/shelter/medical treatement are basic human rights
11:25 < RangerZ1> nvm
11:25 < RangerZ1> not that one
11:26 < RangerZ1> lol
11:26 < RangerZ1> also... apparently the UN in 2014 declared water a basic human right...
11:26 < aestetix> what about education
11:26 < RangerZ1> so people in detroit are suing to get their water turned back on b/c of that
11:26 < RangerZ1> THAT aught to have some impact politically
11:27 < RangerZ1> but apparently "big water" finally wanted them to do that
11:27 < aestetix> Can't they just call the water company and tell them they have kids living there?
11:27 < RangerZ1> b/c now they have privatized enough water world-wide
11:27 < RangerZ1> to make it profitable
11:27 < RangerZ1> aestetix: nope
11:27 < RangerZ1> aestetix: its a bit more complex than that
11:27 < aestetix> hmm is childcare also a basic human right?
11:27 < RangerZ1> if you don't provide water, the state will take your kids
11:27 <@Bahhumbug> Heh... "bit"
11:28 < aestetix> and throw internet in there too
11:28 < aestetix> also power
11:28 < RangerZ1> aestetix: now you want EU
11:28 < RangerZ1> you damn socialist
11:28 < RangerZ1> lol
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11:43 <@Dagmar> Jesus christ
11:43 <@Dagmar> Next time I see Catonic I'm giving him one of my tire pressure gauges.
11:44 <@oddball> Did he blow a tire or something?
11:44 < dfused> phrasing.
11:44 <@oddball> oops... just saw the picture.
11:44 <@Dagmar> yes, and the sidewalls look like a fucking cruller
11:47 <@Dagmar> Frankly he's lucky the thing didn't explode long before now.
11:47 <@oddball> if your tire ressembles an under-inflated ballon, it's time to replace.
11:48 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Just read scrollback. I got my replacement pi Friday, and am pissed as well.
11:49 <@oddball> heh
11:49 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... the sidewal looks completely fucked.
11:50 <@Dagmar> Wait, something's wrong with a pi model?
11:50 <@oddball> Dagmar: Other than them releasing the Pi 2 while my B+ is enroute to my house, no.
11:51 < _NSAKEY> I ordered a new one to replace my old/non-working model b and it got here friday.
11:51 < _NSAKEY> Granted, it was a very good deal ($50 on a $90 bundle on Amazon).
11:51 <@oddball> Cool.  I got the B+ starter set that Adafruit sells.
11:51 < _NSAKEY> Still, it's really annoying to have ordered and gotten it, only for it to be superceded so soon.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> The last time I saw Pi 2 news, it was expected to be out in 2017.
11:52 < _NSAKEY> I based my purchasing decision partly on that.
11:52 <@Dagmar> Ah
11:53 < _NSAKEY> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L87YMGM/
11:53 <@Dagmar> That's the model I have now, although I got mine from Adafruit
11:53 < _NSAKEY> That's a good enough deal that I'm not going to be too upset about the model upgrade, but it's still annoying.
11:53 <@Dagmar> These places really need to make the cases with punchout panels
11:54 <@Dagmar> I don't like all the weird little slots that I'm not going to be using
11:54 <@oddball> heh
11:54 <@Dagmar> Surely everyone who is going to use them has an xacto knife
11:54 < _NSAKEY> That case is kind of annoying to open and close, but I don't forsee many situations in which I have to open it up.
11:54 < _NSAKEY> It's not like I'm going to use the GPIO pins, but it's cool that they're exposed in a reasonable manner.
11:55 < _NSAKEY> It comes with 2 screws, which I decided weren't needed because the case is almost too snug.
11:56 < _NSAKEY> Other than that, the only hitch was that wicd-curses had to be used to set up wifi, instead of just using wpa_supplicant.
11:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah, the things barely have mass
11:56 < _NSAKEY> I really wasn't expecting the case fit to be so tight though.
11:57 <@Dagmar> Ah, I just grabbed the latest NOOBS.
11:57 < _NSAKEY> My dead pi is in one of these, and I was disappointed that there wasn't a B+ version: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Case-Blackberry/dp/B00ASJRMT0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1422896211&sr=1-1&keywords=raspberry+pi+case&pebp=1422896189645&peasin=B00ASJRMT0
11:57 <@oddball> I think I might use mine for a Pip Boy 3000 prop for a vault dweller costume.
11:57 < aestetix> so with openvpn
11:57 <@Dagmar> ...although my instance might be simpler just because I'm not using the wireless to connect to an AP... I'm using it *as* an AP
11:57 < aestetix> is it bad practice to get around not knowing routing by just installing the client on all the systems and letting them talk to each other? :p
11:58 < _NSAKEY> I was thinking of turning mine into an irssi box, but the freenode + tor/sasl guide simply isn't valid/up to date.
11:58 <@Dagmar> No, it's generally a good idea to let properly-written software handle routing for you
11:59 <@Dagmar> Like, you might not be able to do it, but in theory, whoever wrote the program wrangling your connection isn't so unclued
11:59 < _NSAKEY> This would probably be cool to do with the new pis: http://pi-top.com/
11:59 < PigBot`> Title: pi-top (at pi-top.com)
11:59 <@Dagmar> Writing silly shit to the routing table would be construed as a bug
12:00 < aestetix> Dagmar: I'm also in favor of properly-documented software
12:00 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Wow... that website makes me want to punch someone.
12:01 <@oddball> It's a neat idea, though.
12:03 <@Dagmar> Impressive.
12:04 <@Dagmar> A design that's actually shittier than "Restrict yourseld to 3-5 sentences per page to maximize your ad revenue"
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12:10 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it's hard to think of a worse design.
12:51 <@Evilpig> ooo oo I know of a worse design!
12:51 <@Evilpig> http://geeknic.info  !
12:51 < PigBot`> Title: GeekNIC 3.0 - March 20-22, 2015 (at geeknic.info)
12:57 <@Evilpig> I really want to show y'all a graph of the traffic we saw during the stooperbowl but i'm not sure if I should
12:57 <@Evilpig> nothing on it identifies it so I guess it's okay
12:57 <@Evilpig> http://i.imgur.com/WZibJrg.gif
12:58 < dfused> you're not right.
13:08 <@Evilpig> I didn't make it
13:17 < Synx|hm> wtf kimsufi
13:17 < Synx|hm> looks very interesting maybe i should just get a dedicated server again
13:18 < Synx|hm> instead of openvz or kvm vps
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13:27 <@shapr> good morning?
13:30 <@Dagmar> Seriously?  Fucking idiots
13:30 <@Dagmar> Not you
13:31 <@Dagmar> Some little shit actually downvoted one of my answers on Stack Overflow
13:31 <@Dagmar> No wonder the place is filled with people who make wild guesses
13:31 <@Dagmar> Dude had a CSV that exhibits the signs of being mangled by someone's damn word processor, i.e., he described fields that start with a normal quote and end with "^@"
13:32 <@Dagmar> ...which is almost always smartquote bullshit.  I gave 'em the regexps to swap them back to a normal quote character and advised them to go pester the source person for an unmangled version of the file, and it gets downvoted?  WTF?
13:34 <@Evilpig> he probably made the file himself thus making you a troll and him an idiot
13:36  * aestetix grumbles
13:36 < aestetix> is it possible to use openvpn to push a single A record DNS change to the client?
13:36 < aestetix> while allowing everything else to be normal
13:39 < Synx|hm> wtf
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13:39 < Synx|hm> so i have a vpn in sweden and its almost alwasy around a 150ms ping time
13:39 < Synx|hm> which is expected
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13:39 < Synx|hm> in the past 20min its gone down to 1.2ms and been steady there
13:40 <@Dagmar> whqt
13:40 < dfused_> interesting. .... everything on my UPS just power cycled. ... just unplugged it to see if it'd do it again, and it didnt
13:40 <@Dagmar> Synx|hm: You might want to take a look outside for any suspicious vans.
13:41 < Synx|hm> ya wtf, how is the ping response on my server in sweden faster than the ping response of the first comcast gateway i hit
13:41 < aestetix> god I hate networking
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13:41 < Synx|hm> wtf is going on here
13:42 <@Dagmar> Some shit is broken or some amatuers are intercepting your VPN connection
13:42 < aestetix> it's not me
13:42 <@Dagmar> ...because yah, I'm not even sure the laws of physics would let you get that far and back in 1.2ms
13:43 < Synx|hm> im pumping about 6MBps (bytes!) of traffic through it at the moment and nothing has dropped
13:43 <@Dagmar> Comcast is lucky to get yuo 50ms just leaving their network
13:43 <@Dagmar> They probably think it's a Speedtest site
13:44 < Synx|hm> haha
13:44 <@Dagmar> 'cuz clearly no one will _ever_ figure out that they're gaming response metrics
13:44 <@Evilpig> example of a bad layout.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtuhqyrzrx20e8n/Screen%20Shot%202015-02-02%20at%201.43.37%20PM.png?dl=0
13:44 < Synx|hm> ya this is really odd, the vpn throughput has been steadly increasing to my line speed max over the past 20min too
13:44 <@Dagmar> No thankns, I already have a bad layout of my own right here on my screen
13:44 <@Evilpig> oh come on.  it's funny
13:45 <@Dagmar> It's only funny when you haven't spent hours trying to get a fucking box around layout elements
13:46 <@Dagmar> TABLE BORDERS WERE EASY IN 1996 DAMNIT
13:46 <@Dagmar> With Android... "Okay sure, we'll give you 2px on the top, right, and bottom... but you know... we think we like 1px on the left better."
13:46 <@Dagmar> I'm just hoping this is the preview renderer being weird
13:49 < Synx|hm> looking at latency graphs for the past month, this has happened 6 times
13:50 < Synx|hm> somebody must be messing with peering/routes at comcast
13:50 < Synx|hm> wish it would stay this low
13:53 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: http://css-tricks.com/box-sizing/ 
13:53 < PigBot`> Title: Box Sizing | CSS-Tricks (at css-tricks.com)
13:53 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: It's not CSS that's the problem.  It's Android layouts.
13:53 <@Evilpig> css  box-sizing.  set that shit and the rest is cake
13:53 <@Evilpig> fuck em in their fuckign asses
13:54 <@Dagmar> They sort of designed around people never doing this anymore
13:54 <@Dagmar> ...also the layout preview renderer is fairly crap.
14:09 < Synx|hm> OH SHIT
14:09 < Synx|hm> umm anybody actually been auto billed my comcast for blowing through the cap?
14:10 < Synx|hm> because i didn't just slightly go through it i just destroyed it
14:10 < Synx|hm> as in doubled it
14:13 < Synx|hm> OH THANK JESUS, the 3 overage courtesy months seems to be yearly
14:16 <@Evilpig> hahaha
14:16 < Synx|hm> now im hitting the max on my VPS though lol
14:17 <@Dagmar> lol
14:17 < Synx|hm> i guess once hbogo opens its doors and i run out of free overages in march ill just jump to business
14:17 < Synx|hm> and shitcan the basic cable
14:18 < Synx|hm> google fiber cannot come soon enough
14:21 <@Dagmar> So let me say again... 1.5ms latency to Sweden is so far from likely, it's a near certainty Comcast is doing something dickish to make it appear that way
14:21 < Synx|hm> oh ya i agree
14:21 < Synx|hm> its hovering around 17ms now btw, but normally 170ms which is much more likely
14:22 < Synx|hm> though the IP im pinging on the other end is nonroutable and inside the VPN tunnel so not sure how comcast could be messing with it
14:22 <@Dagmar> 17ms is also a lie
14:23 <@Dagmar> http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/rants/Latency.html
14:23 < PigBot`> Title: It's the Latency, Stupid (at rescomp.stanford.edu)
14:23 <@Dagmar> You've got the speed of light to deal with and unless someone dug a tunnel from Nashville straight to Sweden, the only way you're getting 17ms to there is by violating causality
14:24 < Synx|hm> ya i get that ha, which is why its odd a fuck that pfsense is reporting it
14:24 < Synx|hm> pfsense is maintaining the openvpn link and doing a ping the the sweden side gateway of the tunnel
14:25 < Synx|hm> ive got a 4month graph here and its almost always 150-170ms however there are odd periods of 10ms responses over the course of the past 4 months
14:25 <@Dagmar> You should maybe ping it with the usual ping tool
14:25 < Synx|hm> becasuse the ping is inside the tunnel im not sure how comcast could be spoofing icmp replys
14:26 <@Dagmar> ...and if your'e still seeing those insane times, go dig a hole in your backyard, throw the modem into it, add kerosene and a lit match
14:26 <@Dagmar> Then cover the remains with salt, then dirt, and then call a priest to bless the land
14:26 < Synx|hm> ha
14:26 <@Dagmar> This is why I suggested you check outside for a mysterious van
14:27 <@Dagmar> If you're seeing 17ms "through" the tunnel to there, it's because pfsense has decided to terminate the path locally
14:27 < Synx|hm> DING DING, ping from shell on pfsense shows expected 170ms
14:27 < Synx|hm> why the fuck does the GUI show otherwise
14:27 <@Dagmar> The NSA.
14:27 <@Dagmar> hehehe
14:28 <@Dagmar> I've spoofed my path by dicking around with people's traceroutes before, but I never found a way to fake the latency reliably because physics
14:29 < dfused> physics is evil
14:29 <@Dagmar> Soooome implementations of ping, on the other hand, just stuff the epochmillisecond into the payload becuase it's a lazy way to get the job done
14:30 <@Dagmar> Those can be fucked with, but I think in your case the VPN has just decided your path ends locally for whatever it's using as a latency metric
14:31 < Synx|hm> ya who knows
14:31 <@Dagmar> 17ms would be about right for reasonable hardware and a virtual interface
14:31 < Synx|hm> at least i know im not going crazy
14:31 <@Dagmar> Well...
14:31 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't rule that out just yet
14:31 < Synx|hm> ha, well from the shell ping is as expected when sourcing the correct interface
14:32 <@Dagmar> If your mousepad says you're losing it, it's probably right.
14:32 < Synx|hm> its probably not attaching a specific interface when doing backround gateway checks in pfsense
14:34 <@Dagmar> oh this will amuse
14:35 <@Dagmar> Nadia spent most of the weekend over here and at one point I had to go out for supplies and she found my stash of candy
14:36 <@Dagmar> I come back and she's sitting on the couch eating a Dum Dum and says, "I have a question, Dagmar... What's with the bowl of children's candy?"
14:37 <@Dagmar> I'm like "Oh the large black bowl with the skulls on it?  I got it a few years ago at Walgreen's I think/"
14:38 <@Dagmar> She's like, "No... I mean what's with the large bowl of _children's candy_?  Like, why do you have a large bowl of candy that seems to be the exact sort of thing small children would love?"
14:38 <@Dagmar> Slowly, realization dawns on me
14:38 <@Dagmar> lol
14:39 <@Dagmar> I finally said "Welll, how else are you gonna get 'em in the van.  You tell 'em "free candy" and there's no candy inside, they'll know something's up right away."
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15:56 < dfused> dammit I'm sick of wintert
15:56 < dfused> -t
15:57 <@Bahhumbug> +1 to that
16:09 <@Evilpig> dfused: what for now?
16:19 < dfused> cant ride my bike or go fishing...or sit out on the porch...etc.
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16:21 <@Bahhumbug> Meh.  You can do all three.
16:21 <@Bahhumbug> You just may not be overly comfortable doing it.,
16:22 <@frosty> More winter please.
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16:30 < aestetix> vagina
16:33 <@shapr> VAINA
16:33 <@shapr> I should put that as a trigger in my irc client :-P
16:36 <@Dickie> I wouldn't mind the winter if it would snow once in a while
16:36 <@Dickie> That's pretty. I like it.
16:36 <@Dickie> Then the rest of the year it can be 75 degrees.
16:38 < sasquatc3> heh, thats like what we have, though not 75, but close
16:38 < sasquatc3> we got 8in yesterday, and its supposed to be in the 60's most of the rest of the week
16:39 < NexusYT> Dickie: no snow sucks!
16:39 < NexusYT> trust me, it is fun for the first few days.....then it is just a annoyance......
16:39 <@Dickie> Just a little.
16:39 < sasquatc3> just gotta live somewhere where it melts within a day or two
16:39 < NexusYT> i live in ohio...every year everyone forgets how to drive in it
16:40 < sasquatc3> its like that everywhere though, first snow or two of the year everyone re-learns and does 20mph in the process even though half the population has subarus
16:42 < dfused> damn hippies
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18:22 <@Evilpig> there's snow and ice on the ground and i've got a fan on
18:23 <@NotLarry> Riding the bus
18:24 < dfused> eating meatloaf
18:24 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Today Pat asked if I could just add some fields to the surplus database.  I told her sure, I can add all the fields you want:)
18:24 <@NotLarry> ls
18:25 <@Evilpig> haha
18:26 <@Evilpig> did you point out the new software?
18:49 < aestetix> hi Bahhumbug
19:02 <@shapr> SHAZAM
19:06 <@Evilpig> shapr just got laid everyone.  
19:06  * Evilpig stares at shapr 
19:06 <@shapr> I wish
19:06 <@shapr> not for ...
19:06 <@shapr> dang that's too long to want to talk about :-(
19:10 <@Evilpig> but you just said....
19:12 < aestetix> Dagmar: enjoy http://cruellablog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/goldsmiths-and-me-full-story-proof.html
19:12 < PigBot`> Title: Cruella-blog: Goldsmiths and me. The full story. The proof. (at cruellablog.blogspot.co.uk)
19:17 <@shapr> Evilpig: I have a blind date tomorrow evening, first date in ... seventeen months or so
19:17 <@shapr> we'll just call it a year and a half
19:17  * shapr shrugs
19:20 < aestetix> shapr: how long has she been blind?
19:21 <@NotLarry> shapr: Has he been blind from birth or did something happen to him?
19:22 < aestetix> speaking of insane women
19:22 < aestetix> http://internet.gawker.com/the-psychopaths-of-gamergate-are-all-thats-left-and-th-1683271908/+danlyons
19:22 < PigBot`> Title: The Psychopaths of GamerGate Are All Thats Left, and Theyre Terrifying (at internet.gawker.com)
19:26 < RangerZ1> aestetix: she's right though
19:26 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I didn't bother to read it. It has the word gamergate in it
19:26 < RangerZ1> anyone with 2 cents of common sense(yes phonetic joke)
19:27 < RangerZ1> knows to get the hell away from GG now
19:27 < aestetix> is that sort of like leaving a party before it grows stale?
19:27 < RangerZ1> you CAN be for what GG is for, but you have to -publicly- be agaist GG
19:27 < RangerZ1> its politics
19:27 <@shapr> aestetix, NotLarry: I gotta smack you guys next time I see you :-P
19:28 < RangerZ1> shapr: when -doesn'- that pair need slapped?
19:28 < aestetix> shapr: look on the bright side. if she's blind, you won't have to wear a bag over your face
19:28 <@Bahhumbug> NotLarry.... not so much.  aestetix needs it at the top of every hour if not more.
19:29 <@shapr> aestetix: DAM YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTIVE ATTITUDE
19:29 < aestetix> shapr: I know a magic word that will make her scream for more. Can you guess it?
19:30 <@shapr> aestetix: beer?
19:30 < dfused> ecstacy?
19:31 <@shapr> aestetix: ok, what is it?
19:31 < aestetix> vasectomy
19:33 <@Evilpig> shapr: is she blind because you poked her in the eye?
19:35 <@Evilpig> is there an updated version of gspot that works for mkv?  anyone?
19:35 <@NotLarry> Hey, shapr, while you were offering to slap me I went and had sex with a woman.
19:36 <@shapr> DAM YOU
19:37 <@shapr> NotLarry: I can't afford to pay as much as you can :-P
19:41 <@NotLarry> Scored a Toshiba Satellite L655 for $29 at a pawn shop Saturday.
19:43 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: was it a woman or was it genie?
19:43 <@NotLarry> ikr
19:44 <@Evilpig> I bet she's gotten awful cranky with not seeing me for an entire year now
19:49 < aestetix> NotLarry: I'm not sure your horse counts as a "woman"
19:54 <@Bahhumbug> 8 minutes of sex.  I'm sorry.
19:55 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: you offering?
19:55 < dfused> ohhh myyyyyy
19:55 <@NotLarry> Who has 8 minutes for sex?
19:55 <@Bahhumbug> Apparently you?
19:55 < RangerZ1> NotLarry considers that a waste of his time
19:55 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh.  I see.
19:55 <@NotLarry> Fuck that, if I took 8 minutes she might wake up.
19:55 <@Evilpig> I wish
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> NotLarry: Hahaha
19:56 < aestetix> or kick you with her back hoof
20:05 <@Shadow404> flipper
20:06 <@Shadow404> @weather 30064
20:06 < PigBot`> Shadow404: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
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20:07 <@Evilpig> I need to make that a command and have it just say fuck you
20:07 <@Shadow404> oh another note, my pedometer stopped right on 2600 tonight
20:07 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: you would wouldnt you
20:07 <@Evilpig> I would
20:08 <@NotLarry> @p0rn
20:08 < PigBot`> NotLarry: Error: "p0rn" is not a valid command.
20:08 < RangerZ1> @fuckyou
20:08 <@NotLarry> @bacon
20:08 < PigBot`> RangerZ1: Error: "fuckyou" is not a valid command.
20:08 < PigBot`> NotLarry: Error: "bacon" is not a valid command.
20:09 <@NotLarry> @help
20:09 < PigBot`> NotLarry: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:09 <@NotLarry> that was no help
20:09 <@Shadow404> @command
20:09 < PigBot`> Shadow404: Error: "command" is not a valid command.
20:10 < RangerZ1> @list
20:10 < PigBot`> RangerZ1: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, URL, User, and Web
20:10 < aestetix> @vagina
20:10 < PigBot`> aestetix: Error: "vagina" is not a valid command.
20:10 < RangerZ1> @config
20:10 < PigBot`> RangerZ1: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
20:10 < aestetix> aww
20:10 < aestetix> @config vagina NotLarry
20:10 < PigBot`> aestetix: Error: 'supybot.vagina' is not a valid configuration variable.
20:10 <@Shadow404> also, fuck you USPS
20:10 <@Shadow404> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_ui753tPyLo/VNAXuX3LH2I/AAAAAAAANCE/u4UJI9dR4I4/w476-h846-no/20150202_193440.jpg
20:11 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: I see chinese writing on that.  fuck you for not buying american.  you got what you deserved
20:11 < aestetix> @help
20:11 < PigBot`> aestetix: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:11 < aestetix> @list
20:11 < PigBot`> aestetix: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, URL, User, and Web
20:11 <@Shadow404> heh, true, at least it was only $2.76
20:11 < aestetix> @config url test
20:11 < PigBot`> aestetix: Error: 'supybot.url' is not a valid configuration variable.
20:12 <@Shadow404> and im getting a refund via amazon
20:12 <@Evilpig> so you're pissed about the post office fucking something up worth less than $3? jesus h christ
20:12 <@Shadow404> well, just typical of them
20:13 <@Shadow404> guess my helicopter can go in dis-repair for a few more weeks
20:13 < aestetix> you have a helicopter?
20:13 <@Shadow404> aestetix: r/c
20:14 <@Evilpig> am I the only one tht doesn't expect it to be some type of sex toy?
20:14 < aestetix> you mean a butt plug
20:15 <@Shadow404> er....to be completely honest, this was just about the only non-sex toy related chineese order ive had in a while
20:16 < aestetix> Shadow404: do you have one of those things you can slip your dick into to make it look like you have a dragon penis?
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20:16 < RangerZ1> LOL @ Bloomberg reporting that google is about to eat Uber's lunch
20:17 <@Evilpig> ?
20:17 <@Shadow404> its simpy called a penis cover/enhancer and no. dont have the need for one tbh
20:17 < RangerZ1> they saying Google is about to do 'ride-sharing'
20:17 <@Shadow404> also, as mentioned earlier, put my phone on the charger at exactly 2600 steps today: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/nQEZZxFoN10r9YYvTn3tHDiYvi-316NJ49HWY6bddUY=w1070-h374-no
20:18 < aestetix> turning your dick into a dragon penis is an enhancement?
20:18 <@Shadow404> its what the general item is called, regardless of what style
20:19 < aestetix> what about the dildos that can ejaculate?
20:19 <@Shadow404> aestetix: i dunno, why dont you go find out and let us know
20:19 < aestetix> I wanted to ask an expert
20:19 <@Shadow404> then you asking the wrong source
20:30 < RangerZ1> Shadow404: so you in the google-fiber love-areas?
20:30 < RangerZ1> a bunch of small suburbs, not sure which one you live in, etc
20:31  * RangerZ1 doesn't want to admit how much info we have about Shadow404, his living arangements, and his purchasing habits
20:33 < aestetix> and his evening habits
20:33 < RangerZ1> nope
20:34 < RangerZ1> nope
20:34 < RangerZ1> nope
20:34 < RangerZ1> burn those files with a fire from the sky
20:44 < RangerZ1> wtf... #leftshark is -still- trending on twitter...
20:44 < RangerZ1> I blame aestetix
20:58 < dfused> http://www.empr.com/new-sleep-duration-recommendations-for-most-age-groups/article/395683/
20:58 < PigBot`> Title: New Sleep Duration Recommendations for Most Age Groups - MPR (at www.empr.com)
20:59 < aestetix> why is leftshark trending?
21:03 < RangerZ1> from the superbowl halftime dance thing
21:04 < aestetix> I repeat why is it trending
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> Go google it.
21:07 < RangerZ1> b/c 140 million americans watched it
21:07 < RangerZ1> and ...twitter...
21:07 < RangerZ1> and his dancing was worse than what _I_ could do
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> He wasn't able to see.
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> But that's ok.  The halftime show sucked.
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> The only redeeming quality was my thinking of the various things I would like to do to Katy Perry.
21:09 < aestetix> wtf is this shit about only 5 computers being able to connect with itunes
21:12 < RangerZ1> aestetix: you can only have 5 computers 'activated' at once
21:12 < RangerZ1> 5 licenses active at once
21:13 < RangerZ1> because you gotta remember... iTunes = drm
21:13 < aestetix> yeah
21:13 < aestetix> I remember the first time I discovered that
21:14 < aestetix> when I tried to copy music from an ipod to another compuer
21:14 < aestetix> and was like wtf is this file system
21:15 < RangerZ1> there are illegal tools that will do that
21:15 < RangerZ1> but 'ehh'
21:15 < RangerZ1> illegal in the USA b/c it breaks DRM
21:22 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ-zsHk_OyM
21:22 < PigBot`> Title: Overview of Android Intents (Part 1) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:22 < RangerZ1> the 'overview' is only 36min
21:22 < RangerZ1> also... only part 1
21:22 < RangerZ1> LOL
21:45 < aestetix> http://www.ucc.on.ca/wac-2015-keynote/
21:45 < PigBot`> Title: Upper Canada College | WAC 2015 Keynote (at www.ucc.on.ca)
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23:12 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Elonka replied to you on the mailing list.
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23:38 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: yeah I saw that
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